Guild Wars 2

I think you under estimate your ability to take control of a map and lead it steve.Before i came across you i sat on team speak with gw2comunity and attempted gerent 30+ times and most of them failed.You say any com could do what you do,sorry but thats just not true.You have a lot of followers,me included,and i think when your on a map they join you as they know youl get the job done.

Agreed.How is it our fault someone advertises on lfg when there map is full.

Berserk Steve.1530:

First off – I apologise this is long and there is a TL:DR at the end. And apologies in advance if I seem like a whiner.

I have held off posting this for a some time now – It will get crapped on by the people that already caused it to be ruined but I cared so much about it I can’t really not say anything. Some people should know me as Berserk Steve EU pug map commander. I have 800+ followers or something stupid so I am sure some check forum.

It’s been said before that the change to dungeons did not just affect the money coming from them. Regardless of your thoughts on the matter a large section of the community building aspect of the game was lost when they redirected our attention elsewhere. I am sure I am not the only one who feels this. When I look at my guild and my friends list, 90% of them came from pugging dungeons and meeting awesome people. I seriously missed this. Then I discovered Tangled Depths. Heart of Thorns was promised as a harder experience with dense complex maps. Over the initial period of time people learned to stomp these events the same as Tyria. All but the Chak Gerant and the actual TD map which people found so confusing. So for many months now I have tagged up there and an awesome community formed. No guild needed, just be on my follower list and taxi in. Yeah we lost sometimes but it was a good way for many people to learn the map and get a kill on a hard fun world boss. Events should have a chance of failure. Especially if the content was designed to be harder.

So we were in the process of building an awesome community, teaching people event and map mechanics, making friends who then helped other less experienced with Raids and other things. I brought them to the other maps and showed them how well they could be done by bringing the attitude we bring to TD (as its a harder map people brought a better attitude to learning and working together – I.e farming 400 airship parts in 1 round of VB). We done Hivemaster really early and it was an actual accomplishment. Helping people get the legendary materials and getting mails and whispers when they finally did was awesome. I held off my own legendary for over a month to help other people with theirs. We even began pushing our burns to second phase, on pug organised lfg no TS maps. Then the fix came. It’s astounding how much 1 change can completely eradicate everything. People now know they don’t need to bother. Maps now close as people can just hop it and kill, it is literally becoming SW 2.0.

So I want to ask Arenanet do they actually pay attention when they make these kind of changes – the map was already very badly designed in terms of community – Hero points that you can activate on Boss spawn (then reactivate almost as soon as completed for ultimate trolling, especially on other HPs when people just want to WP away and not scale it up for the next person along)? Caches right beside DPS locations, interact able NPCS standing on objects you must lift to complete the hardest boss event in the game etc etc etc. These are the things that when it was a challenge people ignored for 30 minutes but now can actively not care and troll with.

They designed all of these maps to be very commander friendly – I would say the people like me with tags got the absolute most value for money. However it seems like yet again they don’t even know what they have created. I know Gerants main problems was some muppet put mistward helm lining behind it – PLEASE never do this in challenging content again or the QQ will come until it is nerfed. Everyone farming sparks and legendary collection items were fine with learning and trying – as were about 50% of the people there for mistward. Do they actually care about community forming in their MMO? They already almost destroyed my small guild that me and my ex spent lots of gold on, and then now it’s only alive as for a small time TD was amazing and I got new amazing people to join. The new changes removed things we had which we are now only getting back after members have spent thousands of gold (banners, bounties etc). The core community aspect of the game was gutted and so broken for a while we couldn’t even earn favour to get our guild hall. It feels like you want an army of zerg bots pressing 1 and spending gold in the gem store and I really didn’t think that you weren’t that kind of company – especially being a year 1 GW1 player. The irony of my saying that is I lead a zerg in TD but if you just press 1 you will die on lobber or whatever, it’s another reason the map was GOOD.

Regardless I don’t know that there is a point in this – I guess I want to see if anyone else feels the same. I know people now just want the egg sak from it – advice in 120+ kills for me it has never been pinged in map chat. But I want a game I can play and teach and enjoy on a map without trolls and whiners coming and ruining it. Even now it would be fine it we could control our instance. Why should people on my block list be able to taxi on me? Why can they even join my party in the first place or my squad. Why do you not want your community playing with the people that they want to play with? I know people will also just whine and say but it was too hard/needed nerfed/good for you/stop qq etc but IMO they had a chance to fix the dungeon issue by letting us have 1 hard map – I know many of my old dungeon friends came to TD as it was a challenge, composition still meant something (in open world no less). You removed their community and they found a new place and then you took it away again is how it feels, however intentional.

Maybe I am selfish – I have farmed over 2k ley sparks helping other people – I don’t do it for loot, the best drop I ever got from gerant was a freshwater pearl. It’s probably the worst world boss chest in game. It’s the only map that doesn’t have a container (cache) that can give better output than other containers even though the few behind wall are perfect candidates to be large Caches. Yes when baubles are on it can be good money but now that no one listens we can’t optimise anyway. I can’t even taxi while in squad so it’s only as I have 1 awesome person <3 that I have even been able to get the map off the ground this week – it is steadily getting worse as it becomes an afk for gerant map to try for egg sak. People try SO little now that its actually still failing even though you can kill it in 1 burn with map organise and no TS (although you can’t as people want achievements – another anti community aspect of the change – fix this to be a lane buff please).

Like I said I don’t know the purpose of this post – I can’t believe that someone who designed TD or the Chak Gerant can go to the map now – watch how it is ran and completed and be actually happy with how it went. I feel like my own special place was destroyed so I can’t imagine how they feel. Kinda funny too that also is this is what people expected for ALL HoT maps when biomes and complex maps were announced. You are all so, so lucky that it was a misunderstanding

TL:DR I feel like almost every change made to the game since the expansions release has been anti community – maybe I have just been hit harder than it by most. I would like to know if anyone in the community feels the same and also if arenanet ever plans to actually tackle some of the prominent issues such as allowing us to actually play with who we want. Seriously what’s the point of the blocklist atm other than to stalk people you don’t want knowing you are online. If it can’t prevent people from playing with you and ruining your stuff…

As some one whos been with you meny times steve and got hive master title thanks to you.what your saying is you care about this game and the good people who play it and are sad to see what you try to build destroyed.I came across you in tangled depths when to me it was unplayable.Your a great com and teacher and im one of meny hold you in high regard.Keep up the good work steve and if anet listen to anyone it should be you

no your wrong and want to make an accomplishment out of nothing, you killed sabetha as one player in ten and so did i.but i have Asperger syndrome and have no friends so pay 250 gold to join a team as one in ten and get the kill.the only difference is in your ego.

Raids say nothing about your skill as a player,maybe more about your skill at making in game friends.And to be giving out exclusive rewards based on your ability to have made friends in game is ludicrous.When it comes to raids lfg is not worth the hassle
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the 64bit client sorted my crashing problem on this map but the fail rate makes it not worth the time,so until thats addressed iv given up on this map.3 fail maps in a row over the weekend and a total wast of 6 hours.

im at mastery lvl 163 and still dont thing adding 65mill xp grind is good for this game.
adding a few lvls would have been the honest way to do it.

This expansion sold to us on pre purchase and without us knowing what we were buying has eroded the trust of players who have been loyal to this company since guild wars 1.If anet thinks its pre purchase sales are an indication of success.Id suggest they wait till the next time they try flog us a pig in a poke.

Just a collection for envoy armor 1 that you complete buy doing/buying raids.
and i assume that will be the precursor.

Anet in there infinite awesomeness have provided two ways to get the legendary armor.
Option 1. have 9 m8s who also play guild wars 2 and do it yourself.
Option 2.pay for raid boss kills,you need 8 in total 5 of which are gorsival costing around 2k gold to finish the first part of collection.

What is your exact problem with using TS? for me its Asperger syndrome but other people will have there own reasons,an example of the problem.in guild wars 2 if you are verbally abused you have the option to report that player.You leave the safty net that the game provides,who do you report abuse on team speak to wile playing guild wars 2?Of course none of you have ever witnessed this sort of abuse but to then claim it does not happen would be absurd.How meany reports a day of in game abuse do anet get? Well in my opinion the typed word does way less damage than the spoken word.There is no control over team speak and to design content that forces players into an environment anet has no control over is wrong

Coulter.2315:

eldrin.6471:

Most raid groups require team speak and most players for all sorts of reasons are not comfortable using team speak.

I don’t think this is true.

To do well in PvP people use TS.

To do well in WvW people use TS.

To first beat Tequatl people used TS (I was leading Gandara’s first kill of it on TS), same with TT Wurm.

People who want to do the more challenging content use TS, my guild which raids has all 10 on TS but only about 5 of us speak – you can listen and learn without being worried about speaking. The only thing holding you back is you, TS is a reliable program that has been used by millions of players across many games.

I should point out for balance other voice com programs are available.

you and the people you play with dont have a problem so you dont see why others might have a problem.makes sense.

Most raid groups require team speak and most players for all sorts of reasons are not comfortable using team speak.And i think if you asked any one in the general non gaming population if they would be comfortable talking to complete strangers on a program like team speak the vast majority would say no.Why the hell are anet adding content to this game that forces the use of third party software and locking legendary armor behind it.

As i said raids must be great for the folk lucky enough to have 9 m8s who also play guild wars 2.but if you dont have friends in game and are then forced to play with complete strangers and listen to the inevitable abuse for hours on the required team speak or similar third party software..Difficulty of content is not the main problem with raids.
Some of you talk about finding in game friends to play with is easy.well for a lot of people playing this game including me its not.3.5k hrs played and not made a single friend.this game wasn’t until now built that way.why should i have to use third party unmoderated software to do anything.

The idea of raids might have been good but the reality is not,forced to use team speak with a bunch of abusive teenagers isnt fun nor why i play guild wars 2.I would imagine raids are great if you happen to have 9 m8s who also play guild wars 2 or are maybe in a guild and have got to know them.But for the rest forced to pug its horrible.Forcing strangers to group and communicate just dont work for most people playing this game.Its not the difficulty of the content that is the main problem.

just buy tons of gems and convert to gold and youl not worry about loot again.

Ye well i got Aspergers and lack of understanding a lot of things goes with it or so im told.
£3000+ well spent then,and folk on here should be saying thanks not slagging me off.But thats people for you.Buying the raid runs to get the legendary Armour collection with gold funded buy gems should help you all out a lot then,well done me.Almost finished first part of collection for 2.5k gold,a lot less than i thought.

Obtena.7952:

eldrin.6471:

The problem with designing content that only 1% -5% can do is that the other 95%-99% payed for it.And on this planet that just dont work.People just dont/wont pay for other peoples entertainment.

Um, I got news for you … people have been paying for other people’s entertainment in this game from day 1, every time someone purchases gems. Now you’re saying it shouldn’t happen? That’s funny.

You paid for ACCESS to content, not successful completion of it, so your argument makes no sense. Everyone that bought HoT has the same access to raids. Learn what you are paying for with your money before spouting this nonsense.

i probably spend way more on gems than most folk and the only person gets the benefit from it is me.That cant be compared to adding content to what was a casual mmo deliberately designed to exclude the vast majority of players/customers.

insights strongboxes and adventures cover most of what you need.there is no real need to do achevments

Yes its our fault we trusted anet not to take our money and lock us out of what we paid for,shame on us,wont happen again.

The problem with designing content that only 1% -5% can do is that the other 95%-99% payed for it.And on this planet that just dont work.People just dont/wont pay for other peoples entertainment.

something as epic as this needs locked behind billions of xp not millions.

At this point im unsure if this game has took a change in direction or if anet just rushed things and messed up.i realy hope its the latter,and cant see how it makes any sense to turn your back on players who put thousands of hours in to your game in the hope that you might attract new players.

Although i agree with almost everything he says in the video and that a lot of stuff that is just to grindy was added.At no point did i here him say hot was a failure,sure parts of it fail.I still hold out hope that a lot of the complains will be addressed and that hot can be salvaged.I love a lot of stuff added with hot but realy realy hate some parts.

Well done anet,you had one of the best community s maybe the best in any mmo,look what YOU have done to it.

Your attacking a spitfire during dragon stand and the area is criss crossed with sniper trails, its luck who goes down and who dont. The expansion was designed for large groups and for that it works well.But way to much grind has been added and it will kill the game.

Coulter.2315:

eldrin.6471:

There was a time when stopping to rez was encouraged and we even had a daily for it.
Being left to die wile people walk buy is a lot more common now.

They probably recognise you from the forums.

I have never came across a player who has an issue with another player expressing there opinion.But some of the people on the forums think the only valid opinion is there own.but they are not worth getting into a discussion with.

There was a time when stopping to rez was encouraged and we even had a daily for it.
Being left to die wile people walk buy is a lot more common now.

IndigoSundown.5419:

eldrin.6471:

If legendary is not superior to ascended then why do we put so much time and resources into getting it?

If by “we” you mean “you,” only you can answer that question. Presumably, this is because you value it either for the look, because of the stat change, or both. That does not mean that Anet lied.

It makes no difference why legendary is superior to ascended,what matters is that it is.Ascended armour will now be nothing but a stepping stone on the way to legendary armour.

Since we’re discussing a particular ANet statement, this is not relevant. Asc. armor has not been made irrelevant. I don’t see people abandoning their Asc. armor in droves over this. Even if they do, Anet did not promise people would not want L. Armor, only that there would be no new stat tier. L. armor does not represent a stat increase and is not a new tier. L. was around before Asc.

Yes this game was once casual friendly with little grind.

The Legendary “grind” has been with the game since launch. So have plenty of other grinds — all of which are optional.

I would hate to be just starting out in this game now.you get to lvl 80 to find you got 65 mill xp to grind out for mastery. and the small fortune for ascended just gets you a ticket on the gear treadmill for legendary.

While HoT certainly does offer long-term goals, it does so because an apparently significant subset of the player-base asked for such.

This game will grind itself out of existences.and thats a shame cos a lot of people loved what it used to stand for.

See italics.

I’m sorry that you’re choosing to want things in a shorter time frame than the game offers them, and/or to want things that are currently locked behind content you feel you have no access to. I’ve said before that I think HoT offers too little for certain demographics, and I still believe that. However, that does not mean that Anet lied about gear tiers, it just means the development pendulum swung a certain way. It’s likely to change course again going forward if this move does not pan out as well as it might have.

i am not against long term goals im against what anet has stated themselves locking players out of any way to obtain long term or otherwise the new best in slot gear legendary Armour.. Anet are fully aware the bulk of the player base will never be able for what ever reason to do raids,but none the less chose to invalidate there hared worked for ascended gear and are adding legendary Armour.Yes people will come on here and claim that when that new purple gear is linked in LA that it dont invalidate nothing as the stats are the same.bullkitten

vesica tempestas.1563:

raids are a single feature that represents less than 1% of the content available to all in the game.

Yes raids are a single feature,but they made the choice to add the best gear to it there buy locking most players out from obtaining it.of coarse the players who are able do raids think thats a great idea.The topic of this thread is about a once casual friendly game being turned into an elitist grind fest that locks long term supporters/customers out of content.

If legendary is not superior to ascended then why do we put so much time and resources into getting it? It makes no difference why legendary is superior to ascended,what matters is that it is.Ascended armour will now be nothing but a stepping stone on the way to legendary armour.Yes this game was once casual friendly with little grind.I would hate to be just starting out in this game now.you get to lvl 80 to find you got 65 mill xp to grind out for mastery. and the small fortune for ascended just gets you a ticket on the gear treadmill for legendary.This game will grind itself out of existences.and thats a shame cos a lot of people loved what it used to stand for.

legendary armor is superior to ascended,and the gear treadmill has started.anet lied and did infact invalidate all our hard worked for gear.

since the last patch and nerf to the gerent meta the population of td has grown significantly.

TD meta is great fun now.and i have been spending a lot of time there with a lot of players having fun and working on the hive-master collection.

Tangled depths has been fixed and the maps are full of players.It is now one of the better maps in hot.

Gerent is now fun open world content.you want hard go do raids.thanks for listening to your players anet.

Gerent is now fun open world content,thank you Anet.

Obtena.7952:

eldrin.6471:

anets return on £85 for 8k gems is exceedingly low? oh my god they dont actually go out and mine real gems do they? the money is real the gems are not.you do see the difference dont you.or is there something im missing?

You misunderstand what I said. A player getting one piece of non-performance enhancing armor is an exceedingly low return on a 30 pound expenditure.

The only thing your missing is the idea that people should take responsibility for their spending decisions instead of blaming companies for selling products and services for
being greedy. I mean, the difficulty (and hence the cost) of getting a Legendary Armor set is about as strong a deterrent as Anet can provide for anyone with anything but the person with deep pockets. How much more of a incentive do you need to NOT spend your money this way?

no it is you that misunderstands. at 400g per run and 18 runs needed just for the first 1/3 of the what is not even the legendary armor collection but possibly the precursor the cost is over £500.now if the rest of the collection follows this same pattern it works out £1500 plus what they add to take the precursor to legendary.
please keep in mind this is on top of the £3000 they already had out of me to get what i thought they would keep best in slot.
When its costing thousands of pounds to buy armor in any game something is very wrong and someone is very greedy.
I am not kiting out multiple toons.i got just one a warrior.

anets return on £85 for 8k gems is exceedingly low? oh my god they dont actually go out and mine real gems do they? the money is real the gems are not.you do see the difference dont you.or is there something im missing?

leaving a back door open that allows players to be charged 400g or around £30 for ten mins work is greed and its by anets design.And i suggest it is clearly intended.Ibuy gems and change them to gold to pay these prices,who is making the profit?Then they make it so i need do it 18 times to be 1/3 through the collection.working as intended.

Il get that legendary armor no matter what it costs.id respect anet more if they just sold it rather than this dishonest crap.then next year its mythic lol.And so it will go on now that the gear treadmill they claimed to be against has started.I took there bait and now im caught and maybe il struggle a bit as they real me in and bleed me dry.It should not be possible to enter an instance that you did not participate in and get the reward and if it is then its made that way for a reason.gems to gold

After paying to get the raid boss kills 3×400g i find just the first part of the legendary armour will need at least 15 more trips to finish 15×400g thats for 10 ectoplasmic residue and 5 spirit shards. thats over 7k gold for 1/3 of the collection. Do not kid yourself that this is not intended.It is just a new all time low from this greedy company. Various disability i will not bring up again prevent me doing raids myself.They want to set the difficulty bar that high that only a few can do it then the price for the run is going to match.

All the fun stuff is locked behind skill lvl that at the moment is doable by 5% of there player base/customers.what sort of idiotic company locks the vast majority of there customers out of anything?We have other games to move on to,do anet have access to new customers.Good luck keeping this company and game supported with ftp.
The skilled need there challenge and the rest need there nose rubbed in it(legendary armor)

You just dont get it do you. they will sell us the same thing over and over and over without end.But then you get the ones come on here and claim its like cheating paying to enhance your entertainment cos they think its better to waste real time instead of money.some people got more of the one to wast than the other.Like any consumer product its about cash.And when any company sells me a product they claim will be the best,then turn round after taking my money and sell/release something better then im going to complain as load and as often as i can.This is a consumer product nothing more.there e sport agenda dont make the people playing there game any kind of athlete.

DresdenAllblack.1249:

NewTrain.7549
I should be able to win an Olympic gold medal without ever going to Olympics. It’s not fair that I’m not athletic enough. The Olympics alienates me by making gold medals exclusive to winners of events. I should be able to pay 3000 of whatever currency I want and be able to get an Olympic gold medal.

Lol, I think you can. At least one of those cats must be hooked on pain killers and looking to pawn

Your comparing a game to the Olympics?get a grip its entertainment or rather is meant to be.Anet are about making money and sell us the use of a product.
They have started the very gear treadmill they always said they were against.exotic to ascended then its on to legendary armor. then next year its mythic or whatever.the point is they changed there philosophy and changed the game for the worse.if you have issues with people buying there gear instead of good old fashioned wasting hours on the pc grinding. take it up with the sellers anet.

lol do you even read what i say? im registered legally blind in the uk.no i did not enjoy the raid as i could not see anything but a blurr.I would probably have loved raids a couple of years back before the sight loss.I do what i can with what i got.

They allow the selling of raids,and dungeons and fractals so how does what your saying about prestige make any sense? do you not see the financial profit that is there for anet buy allowing the sale of rewards locked behind this kind of content.and how is this different from buying it.I got one raid boss already 250g and will wait till gorseval price comes down to around the same.

The bottom line is im severally disabled including being registered legally blind,This game gave me a lot of pleasure for a long time and i spent a lot of real money to get the stuff i got.I thought maybe £3000+ was enough to keep the best gear,seems i was wrong.Il spend what it takes to get in groups that get me the new bis probably another£1000.
This has turned into one hell of an expensive distraction from life.Whats next mythic armor next year.Spending money for whatever reason on this game seems to be shunned and frowned upon in these forums.strange in a game with a gem to gold currency converter.I tend to think most folk hide there spending due to the reactions like what i have had.thank god im long past caring what strangers on a forum say they think of me.

Seems iv walked into some troll den.I have made my point and shall leave it at that.

Im still here giving my opinions just like every one else.is that not what the forums are for?The subject at hand is legendary weapons not me.And maybe Anet should be more mindful of the deceptive terms they use to describe things.Best now means second best
in Anet land.like no grind means 65,000,000xp grind for mastery’s in a no grind game.
Strange what gamers put up with.In any other industry they would be on the wrong side of a law suit.
And i have asked for a full refund of all moneys spent on this product and closure of my account.Not something they are keen on.