Guild Wars 2

I find it hilarious that you are moaning about a truce after last week. That being said, no one has mentioned a truce to me, and i wont abide by one. It’s far too even for that. If you were on GH BL you’d see that we are constantly fighting back WSR zergs, the almost got bay earlier.

A lot of fun so far, we got off to a good start last night which is where we got our lead, but otherwise i reckon we have 3 very even servers. This should be a great week.

It’s all about allocation, GH organises very well on reset night, we have clear lines of communication between commanders and between borderlands. That allows us to swarm a BL quickly, but it also leaves other BL undermanned whilst we’re focusing somewhere. For example, we were outmanned on our own borderlands for the first 30 or so mins, it was pretty brutal trying to command against the WSR zerg with so few players.

After we got a decent foothold on EB we brought a lot of players back to help with GH, unfortunately that’s when you guys showed up and we were able to wipe you a couple of times. To be honest though, the disparity in numbers wasn’t too great on GH, even when we were fighting you. Sure we had a slight advantage in numbers, but it wasn’t as large as you’re making out. The first encounters at Hills and sunny where pretty much even, i guess after we got you the first time some of your players rezoned.

Reset night is when we perform at our best, you wont see such coordination during the week, it just doesn’t happen on GH. You’re experience from last week will show that we play great on reset, are undermanned at the weekends, and on mon-thu we’re a decent small population server, just like ROF.

Here goes. Good luck everyone, and have fun.

From what i remember they had more players than ROS, but they had a guild leave i believe, not sure how many they have now.

Yeah unfortunately 1 or 2 people can ruin it for everyone else. This match up however has been great, i think GH and ROF are very even in terms of numbers and skill, if you’d had to worry about ROS as well i reckon the scores would have been incredibly close. Good luck to ROS next week, and here’s to another great fight between GH and ROF.

Yeah I didn’t expect anything less from Piken, they were a classy bunch when we played them. As for the seige, i guess it comes from being outnumbered most of the time, we can’t rely on 20 people to get back to our towers for defence, so we pepare beforehand so that 2-3 guys can defend.

Anyway, it’s good to have you back Nidhogg.

Yeah we started the assault on SM with 11 people, once the commander showed up we grew to about 20, but by that time we were already in. I’ll make the MM GM aware of what happened. They are a large guild and have been very active in the GH community, they are not cheaters. This was probably just one kitten and i’m sure if we can find out who it was they will be kicked.

@Korsbaek, the only legitimate way to bypass a gate is by using mesmers, or by destroying them. Everything else is an exploit and is unintended by the devs.

@Ripkord, That’s completely understandable, we done the same last week against Dzagonour. However i do think opening night was not a true representation of our average number of players, you guys do outnumber us through most of the day. I’m not complaining though, this has been one of my favourite match-ups, you’ve been great opponents, as have ROS. I do feel sorry for ROS though, they seem to have gotten the short straw. The alliance (non-aggression pact?) means that we are forced to focus on them, so whenever we get decent numbers we end up decimating their BL, whereas had the scores been closer our forces would have been split between you both.

@Ilesyt, I don’t believe it is the same guys. PRO were clearly teleporting, the guys today where using a terrain exploit, allowing them to bypass the outer gate by using jumps.

@OchrisO, You win some, you lose some. Good job by you guys.

@SNEEKI, I don’t know any GWEN members, but i’m sure i could get their GM’s details if you’d like to contact him. What kind of exploits where they using? I think our stance as a server is pretty clear by this point, we don’t want, and wont cooperate with cheaters.

Why does ROF hate us? Did i miss some drama? As i remember it, it was a fairly decent fight and i held ROF in high regard after it.

Yeah, i’m gonna have to take back what i said in my previous post. There’s no way we outnumber you, switch over must have been a fluke. It’s still fun though, keep it up. I feel pretty bad for ROS, we need to try and focus on you because it’s the only way to get points. Given ROF numbers, there’s not much we can do against them.

Good luck to ROS and ROF this week, it’s been a lot of fun so far. Good luck with the alliance also , hopefully it works out and the point difference doesn’t get too large so we can face each other again next week. We did have unusually high numbers at reset for the reasons I explained above, but I do believe our numbers would have made it pretty one sided had you not teamed up. Granted, we’re now on the back foot, but we’re used to it.

So far the match up seems pretty even, and given our months of dropping tiers and being roflstomped by massive zergs it makes a nice change.

We usually have a good showing on reset night. Also, a lot of people gave up for the last week or so because of the Dz numbers, i think they were itching to get back in wvw.

I think the story of this match up is that a handful of players can ruin the fun for everyone else. On the whole Dz are a great server with some great guilds. We’ve fought them for two weeks now and i’ve been impressed by the dedication shown by some on their server, they have guards everywhere, sentries in all the right places, and are great at softening you up in preparation of a large attack.

During the first week we had to deal with PRO guild, they capped the south of our map in a matter of minutes by teleporting from one location to another. Unfortunately, i believe that the events of that day have made it too easy for us to jump to the conclusion that Dz were cheating, when it’s more likely that they outsmarted or outmanned us. We can’t have eyes everywhere and they can.

There are some areas where we disagree, the use of the glitch wall in bay and hills comes to mind. However, every server we have played against use those spots, i’ve even seen ex-GH guilds use them, at this point it’s clear they aren’t going to be fixed and i think we have to accept that they are going to be used and are part of the WvW experience.

If you remove the PRO guild incident what do we have? A couple of guys wall jumping, one using a blink exploit, one accidentally blinking through a tower door, and some pets being sent behind doors to attack siege. After two weeks of 24/7 gameplay it doesn’t seem that significant. Dz won because of skill and numbers, not because a handful of them cheated/glitched/exploited.

At times i’ve come on to this forum immediately after one of these events and posted whilst frustrated. That was a bad idea, and as a result i’ve said some pretty unfair things, for that i apologise.

ECL, SK, and SC are the three large guilds i’ve seen most on the GH borderlands. And from what i’ve seen they are great, much more coordinated and with larger numbers than our usual opponents. Whoever faces them next week will be in for a hard fight. I’d like to wish them and Dz the best of luck in the higher tiers.

Hey easy,

Unfortunately it was Schroet Kommando. I’ll PM you the link to help you identify them, i did report him do hopefully he wont be around too long anyway.

Piken Square

We fought them a while ago now but their skill and attitude make them my favourite opponent to date. Hopefully when GH rebounds we’ll meet again.

I got video of a Dz elementalist from SK guild jumping through walls today. If the SK GM wants to see the video let me know via PM.

Using the breakout event to defend briar when you control lake and hills is unbelievably cheap. It’s a shame, i was having fun fighting your commander up until that point, but any respect i had for you is now gone. It’s just another example of poor sportsmanship by those some on Dz, enjoy your hollow victory.

Their organised groups are very good and they have impressive numbers, perhaps not enough for the higher tiers, but enough to be comfortable around tier 6. You guys are in for a tough fight next week. Also, they have a pretty dedicated night time force – usually hitting around 2-3am. Most of our server population has usually logged off by this time, so it’s bee pretty brutal for us.

Yeah, fighting at bay was great last night. I think we could have taken it had i not messed up the first portal – sorry to my team for that. Great defence by Dz, hopefully we can have more fights like that in the coming week.

I think you’ll fit in nicely with most of our guilds, the drama left Gunnar’s Hold a long time ago. We (SOE) are always recruiting but are a WvW focussed guild. There’s a few other notable guilds that i wont mention for fear of missing some out, but if your looking for a mature community that has large numbers, then I think MARA would suit your needs. They don’t quite have the organised presence you’d expect in WvW, but they are one of our largest PVE guilds, and every member i’ve spoken to has been incredibly nice. Anyway, others have suggested checking out www.gunnars-hold.eu and i’d echo that suggestion. Good luck with finding a guild!

Honestly, i’m willing to concede that it was probably a mesmer at briar. I spoke out of anger earlier because there were exploits taking place and i was getting frustrated. So, i apologise, I play a mesmer myself so know where he probably hid. It serves me right for not doing the sweep personally. Again, i’m sorry for jumping to that conclusion, but you really do need to be more aggressive when reporting and chastising members of your own server for cheating. You’re good, i’ve been impressed by many of your players, but glitching through doors and teleporting has been rampant this week. I’ve seen it personally on several occasions.

It just happened at Briar on Dz borderlands too.

You know, i was willing to accept that it was only a few people who were ruining Dz’s reputation, but now it’s clear that cheating is rampant on your server. It’s unbelievable really, at this point I’ve played against almost all EU servers and not once have i met one with this amount of cheaters/hackers/exploiters. It shows a clear lack of character among your playerbase. I feel sorry for those who don’t cheat, but the scale of it amongst the Dz playerbase shows that you either condone it, or at the very least there’s a tacit acceptance of it on your server.

We spent hours on bay but you guys put up one hell of a defence, good job. In the end we lost a lot of players due to the time and had to give up.

Been having a lot of fun fighting SK guild from Dz today. Keep it up, you guys are very good.

Of course i don’t blame the whole server, just those from PRO guild. We actually had a hacker on our own server a few months ago who kept on stealing the orbs from our enemies, so we know how annoying it can be. I just wanted to let you know so you can be on the look out for them cheating and report them.

@Mhim, I caught PRO guild teleporting a little earlier. They took hills and bay in a matter of minutes. I reported them and caught them on fraps at bay. However, i’ve been told that posting proof of hacks on this forum is a bannable offence so i’ll refrain from doing so. If you want to see the video, i’ll pm you the youtube link.

We need servers to get merged. I understand the concept behind WvW, but when numbers are so drastically skewed among the participants it’s just game breaking. WvW can not be about player/team skill as long as this disparity exists. It’s been clear for a few match-ups that WvW (at least in the lower ranks) is fundamentally flawed and this week has served to reinforce that opinion. I’m nearing the stage where i shelf GW2 for a few months, and maybe come back in February to see the new update.

Well done to Dz, you’ve exceeded my expectations and have been very good so far. I feel bad for WSR, they have been completely outnumbered, you’ve shown heart and skill whenever I’ve seen 5+ of you on the map – i wish you the best of luck in the future and hope your server and Gunnar’s Hold both rebound.

Last week was a strange one. We had some of the best fights we’ve had on WvW but the majority of it was slow and dull due to large AG numbers. I’m sure that was felt on all three sides, hopefully this week is a little more exciting. The score AG tallied up was very impressive, congrats and good luck in the future, you guys have some great players on your side and i’m sure you’ll do well. ROF, hopefully we get to butt heads again in the near future and get to properly test one another. See you on the battlefield soon.

Great fight three-way fight in ROF garrison a little earlier, had lots of fun. Unfortunately i think ROF were pretty outnumbered but they gave us quite a kicking with that balista. Good job to AG for winning the battle – we were fighting, waiting for the inevitable portal bomb, and when it came it was brutal and decisive.

AG: Congrats, that’s quite the score you’ve tallied up. Good luck in your future match-ups.

ROF: I haven’t got to fight with you as often as i’d like but i’m sure our paths will cross again. Good luck next week, and congrats on what is almost certainly second place.

We had the same thing happen to us on saturday. Someone glitched under DB and started attacking players and destroyed our defensive siege. We managed to get his guild tag but because of his location we couldn’t click on him to report. I must say though that his Guild Leader handled it well, after i let him know what was happening he put out a guild message and the guy must have waypointed.

It’s a shame though because i reported a bug that glitched me under bay a couple of weeks ago, i wonder if someone has found a way of replicating it.

I’ve had a lot of fun this week, defending has been great, open field combat less so. It gets very tiresome when you’re up against larger numbers with more organisation (on the guild level that is), but nevertheless it’s been fun. KISS have been a major force on our borderlands, their portal bombs can be brutal at times, but they have been effective. Other notable encounters were with Unity/ZA at bay and LOE at hills.

I’ve not seen a lot of ROF though, i imagine they’re being pushed just as hard as us on their own borderlands. It’s unfortunate that we meet this week, a week when drama seems to have overshadowed fun and sportsmanship. I’m sure we’ll go up against each other again in the future and hopefully we get to give each other a good kicking.

Also, to AG: call off your thiefs! Every time i get into a fight two or three seem to pop up and have a go, i’m not sure how much longer i can afford the repairs.

It’s certainly not a work of fiction, perhaps the numbers are a little wrong (because of the new culling) but it was a prolonged and exciting battle. I’m not sure what your problem with tichai/mara is, but i’m sure you’d be better served by taking it up in private with him/them.

So far this has been a great week, not point’s wise of course, we’re third overall. But the quality and frequency of engagements is higher than I’ve seen before. Great showing all around, much respect to both AG and ROF, see you in the field.

Someone from AG glitched under Bay during an attack and was attacking us/destroying our seige through the floor. We couldn’t target them so it was impossible to report, did get his guild tag though.

Krosan.2890:

GH and AG have a weird way of fighting out feuds since you both seem to prefer targetting our borderlands. GH decided to snipe bay while we were fighting AG then basically gave the keep to AG…

It wasn’t intended, i assure you. We saw an opportunity to take bay and were not in a position to hold it against AG at the south and you guys at the north. Instead, we tried to hide in the back and watch you guys fight it out.

Also, to everyone fighting at bay on the GH borderlands. Great job all around, it was a fantastic fight.