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Borderlands Revamp Question

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The lake area has been redesigned. The rest is the same though.

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GH - MS - Dzag

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Anyone want to have a 15v15 or 20v20 GvG? I saw lots of large guilds on MS, could be fun.

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30/8: GH vs UW vs RoF

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Blah blah blah, all I saw today was Rage, Teo, HT, Fury holding hands in our BL.
You run as seperate guilds(50meters of eachother) gj. Does that make Teo, HT Fury’s pets? just askin?

the difference between us is that we know to respect a battle, instead of some guilds from UW .. but no point talking about that now ..

Thanks for the matchup, cya !

So far, only FURY respects battles, everytime i was fighting TEO/WBC, RAGE always showed up from behind, even when fighting aggainst RoF, after wiping RoF, RAGE came charging in, yet again from behind… And I could have just keep on counting about other guilds as well. It’s part of WvW, and no, i’m not kittening, just letting you know that GH isnt that much “respectable” as you want seem to make us believe
GL on your next matchup, may we meet again in some weeks

Peace & Respect

I can’t remember fighting you guys outside of the zerg so i’m not really sure which fights you’re talking about. The only people i remember ganking this week were DEX at the north camp, that wasn’t our proudest moment.

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30/8: GH vs UW vs RoF

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Blah blah blah, all I saw today was Rage, Teo, HT, Fury holding hands in our BL.
You run as seperate guilds(50meters of eachother) gj. Does that make Teo, HT Fury’s pets? just askin?
Hope you had fun taking only 2 towers with your 70 people on map with 30 defending.

What you don’t seem to understand is that we have no guild in UW able to fight against 25 Rage or 25 Fury. We have several 10-15-20 man guilds.
With the organization that Rage and Fury have(meleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssss everwheeeeeeeere), you cant expect us who pull with all our might 15 people, and that could mean 10 engineers 2 guardians etc :P, to give you a great fight.
Hope you had fun this week Pug busting. And I really hope to fight you next time in like 2 months were UW will be ready
If by chance we see you next week again, then bad luck to you

I do understand, believe me. A few months ago we were in the same situation on Gunnar’s Hold that’s when we made the decision to increase our numbers, changing from 15 to 25 man raids and from SOE to RAGE. I think it was the right decision for us but in some match-ups it can leave us with little to do, which over the course of a week gets frustrating.

As for the hand holding, i don’t see the problem with it. It’s not like we were getting fights, we were trying to take a keep and you guys had a bunch of AC and defensive siege in there, plus it was the only area of the map with any action. Generally if one guild is fighting another guild, or if they’re fighting a group of militia we’ll leave them too it, but when taking down gates we’ll team up since the defenders have such a heavy advantage.

Sure we only got 2 towers last night but we don’t really care. It’s not why we play the game and we were already ticking at around 400 so it made little difference. We were using the catas to to bait you guys out which worked well since you rushed us a few times, we were basically trading siege for kills and lootbags.

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30/8: GH vs UW vs RoF

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Had fun on GH this evening, see you again tomorrow.

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[[Unofficial GvG Scene Thread]]

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If EU is being split in to 3 tiers then the only viable tier is the mid one. If we go bottom there won’t be much to do outside of primetime, and if we go high we’ll need to deal with queues.

We’ll have 9 servers to chose all of who are guaranteed to face each other over a 7 week period… Sounds like it could be a fun and exciting time for the EU GvG scene. Assuming the orb mechanic doesn’t mess things up too badly.

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30/8: GH vs UW vs RoF

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It was a fun night. Getting into hills and seeing 8 AC on the north gate was a bit or a surprise, it’s not even worth sieging anymore… golems from here on in. But otherwise a lot of exciting fights with DEX, Slay, TaG, and others. Not sure we ever reached 25, but weren’t far from it.

If any of you want a friendly (or ranked) 15v15 or 20v20 let me know and we’ll get something arranged.

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GH - FSP - AS

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FURY will be raiding on Arborstone, starting at 7pm gmt tonight. Please, feel free to join us.

Hmm, i think i’ll bring my mesmer again

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[[Unofficial GvG Scene Thread]]

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If [Agg] were to travel to an EU server, would guilds stay up to GvG us on weekends?

Weekends at around 7-8 pm PST time

Seems unlikely, no one is going to be on top form at 3am.

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Gunnars/Abaddons/Dzagonur

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Looking forward to hopefully meet GH and PS on reset tonight!!!

That would be awesome.

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Gunnars/Abaddons/Dzagonur

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This has been my favourite matchup in a while tbh. Sure the AM blobs are huge but if you catch them off guard it’s not too difficult to roll straight through them. Not that AM players are necessarily worse than other servers though, they just get complacent when rolling in such high numbers.

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Gunnars/Abaddons/Dzagonur

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I’m not a fan of large blobby fights but the ones against AM have been pretty enjoyable. Their numbers are crazy and fighting them outside of prime-time can be frustrating. However i can’t help but respect the discipline and coordination it takes to get such a large group working together as one. Anyway, here’s some RAGE footage from reset night for those interested.

We’re still looking for a GvG or two. Ranked or unranked is fine, we’ve not had one in a while and it would be nice to shake off the cobwebs and get some practice in.

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Gunnars/Abaddons/Dzagonur

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We’ll be out every night (except tonight) and will be looking you! Btw, what numbers do you normally raid with?

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Gunnars/Abaddons/Dzagonur

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Also, RAGE is looking for some 15v15 GvG’s if anyone is interested let me know in game.

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Gunnars/Abaddons/Dzagonur

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Really fun start to the week, shame that running alone isn’t really viable against AM but i’m sure we’ll adapt well. Good luck to all sides and see you on the battlefield!

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UW / FR / GH

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I’m not gonna lie, I kitten my pants a little bit when this occured.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6XJYy_D9f4&feature=youtu.be

That’s the necro zerg.. but hey, we were just 3.

Amazing. This seems fitting.

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UW / FR / GH

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Thanks for the videos Neil, awesome as always. Sorry to the [gank] warrior we ganked at the end of the first video, be less annoying next time

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UW / FR / GH

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Underworld are very unwelcoming. I’m not sure i like you any more!

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UW / FR / GH

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This forum needs an ignore function.

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Drakkar Lake, Ruins of Surmia, Blacktide

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It’s a kitten shame, i wasn’t a fan of the forum warriors that popped up when we played each other but it was a fun rivalry and one that i’ll miss. It always added a bit of excitement and purpose to the match-ups. Good luck to those who remain on ROS.

As i understand it we’ll be seeing DEX on UW very soon, should be interesting…

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Orbs of Power gonna return?

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If buffs are given to players in the open field then small scale roaming, duels, and GvG’s will no longer be viable. The lack of variety in WvW has made things stale for a while now but we finally have a booming GvG scene to liven things up and you’re effectively killing it off. It just seems so heavy handed and unnecessary given how unwelcome these buffs are, and how unwelcome they were in the past.

If you insist on keeping the buffs please make them only apply within keep/towers/castles and allow us to face other players/groups on an equal footing in the open field.

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UW / FR / GH

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I agree, fighting when glitched in is completely unacceptable. If i were you i’d pass this to the guild leaders of those involved and maybe they can identify the players. It’s not the best picture though so maybe it wont be possible.

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Orbs of Power gonna return?

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Terrible news, GvG is a big part of WvW now and with this update you’ll kill it off. At least create a GvG arena before you implement it.

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8/2 Underworld vs Arborstone vs Gunnar's Hold

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Our community has turned in to a bunch of gloating kittens, grow up naz.

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8/2 Underworld vs Arborstone vs Gunnar's Hold

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read the above post that’s where the frustration comes from.lot’s of gold spent,many dollies escorted,hours of defending/retaking camps for supplies, just so half a dozen Golems can walk up and take the keep,and then to come with BS excuses.just face it you can’t do sweet fanny adams with ya golems.

We spent more on our golems than you did on your upgrades

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8/2 Underworld vs Arborstone vs Gunnar's Hold

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He means they can’t do it “the old fashioned way”

We can, and we do every day. I don’t enjoy it though so prefer to get it over and done with as quickly as possible.

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8/2 Underworld vs Arborstone vs Gunnar's Hold

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I understand your concern with Golem rushes, it makes seiging too easy if you catch the enemy off guard. But without golems keeps would become untouchable and the game would become a stalemate. With the increased AC damage taking a defended keep/tower using rams/catas/trebs isn’t really an option. It’s far too boring and drawn out with very little for the attackers to do whilst the trebbing/cataing is being done. So from my point of view we use golem rushes to progress the fight and give us the opportunity to have face to face fights rather than have us fight seige all night. Sorry if it makes things less fun for you, that’s not our intention.

I only speak for RAGE obviously.

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8/2 Underworld vs Arborstone vs Gunnar's Hold

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UW zerging our friendly game of bollaball

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8/2 Underworld vs Arborstone vs Gunnar's Hold

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Enjoyed myself so far this reset on GH borders wiped you all so many times and you couldnt put a dent in to us however reading here you guys where putting that dent in to our border maybe less siege in open field [RAGE] honestly im joking we understood why as we outnumbered you guys so we are fine with that. havent seen any AS yet but its good to see you guys again i hope the best of you lot this match up and of course have fun everyone.

Yeah, not much we could do against the numbers we were facing, even with the seige you guys were ressing/rallying faster than we could finish you. We’re always up for GvG’s if you’d like something a little fairer

Hey, sorry [SWAG] is a pvx guild and were not that organised or disciplined on the WvW side off stuff yet apart from me and a few other members so apologies that you wont be able to expect a GvG from us but i sincerely hope another guild from underworld will take up the offer.

Understandable and no need to apologise. Different guilds have different priorities and like others have pointed out being good at GvG doesn’t make you good at WvW. We enjoy them though and it gives us something to look forward to so we’re always looking for opponents. Anyway, it’s been a while since i faced Underworld and if the current scores are representative of the final outcome we’re in for a very close and tense week! Good luck and keep the fights coming.

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8/2 Underworld vs Arborstone vs Gunnar's Hold

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Enjoyed myself so far this reset on GH borders wiped you all so many times and you couldnt put a dent in to us however reading here you guys where putting that dent in to our border maybe less siege in open field [RAGE] honestly im joking we understood why as we outnumbered you guys so we are fine with that. havent seen any AS yet but its good to see you guys again i hope the best of you lot this match up and of course have fun everyone.

Yeah, not much we could do against the numbers we were facing, even with the seige you guys were ressing/rallying faster than we could finish you. We’re always up for GvG’s if you’d like something a little fairer

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8/2 Underworld vs Arborstone vs Gunnar's Hold

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Looking for some 15v15 GvG this week, maybe 20v20. If anyone is interested let me know.

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FR vs RoS vs BT

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Oh believe me, i’ve been converted plenty this week. MS are a great server, nice and respectful too.

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FR vs RoS vs BT

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FR has been held to a close draw by a server with much lower population. If you want to gloat over that feel free my friend. We’ve been rolling in loot bags all week. Well, when we can catch your players before they run that is. Actually, that’s FR’s speciality. Running away.

Are there many lootbags to be had in the early hours? Because if you look at the prime-time PPT it looks like you’re the ones getting converted into loot. At least you have a healthy PVD team though!

http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/7/

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Gunnars vs Millers vs Drakkar

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This was a decent match-up that got better as the week progressed. Thanks to MS for ditching the zergs and running your guild groups, it was a welcome change and made for exciting and varied fights. Also, respect to guilds like Bots and Mya for not engaging us when we were already fighting and waiting to fight on equal terms, it made things a lot more fun and really added a sense of competition.

It’s sad to see DL perform so poorly in prime-time. It seems that DSun leaving has caused a bit of an exodus that’kitten your prime-time numbers hard. Good luck in the future and i hope you recover soon. Also, thanks to Legendary Crit for the practice GvG earlier in the week.

Good luck to both servers in their next match-up.

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Gunnars vs Millers vs Drakkar

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Thanks to Mya and Bots for the fights on GH BL tonight. It was a lot of fun, I hope we get to fight each other again this week. Also, thanks to the players and guilds we faced on DL BL later on in the evening.

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Gunnars vs Millers vs Drakkar

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Currently [Mya] decided to decline GvG’s because we have no WvW/GvG-Leads and some ppl are in holidays. We run with some recruits and hope you guys can understand our decision. I guess we can start with GvG’s again in 1-2 Weeks.

Wish you all a nice week.
Greetz

That’s disappointing, we were looking forward to it Catch you next time. Anyone else want a 15v15 on Thursday?

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GvG SHOWDOWN

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Loving the show so far and learning a lot from watching them. Keep up the good work.

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Gunnars vs Millers vs Drakkar

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Yeah good luck all, it could be a great week after the reset blobbyness has gone. Tonight was fun, a little frustrating at times, but fun nonetheless. Also, if anyone wants a 15v15 GvG then give me a /w and we’ll try and arrange it. See you on the battlefield!

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19/7 - Gunnars/Arborstone/Fort Ranik

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Any guilds interested in a GvG this week (15v15) let me know. Failing that i’m also up for duels.

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19/7 - Gunnars/Arborstone/Fort Ranik

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Fun opening night, thanks for all the fights on AS BL. Good luck to all sides, should be an interesting one.

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12/7 Gunnars Hold - Drakkar Lake - Arbostone

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Lots of fun in AS BL tonight. Thanks to everyone we fought.

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12/7 Gunnars Hold - Drakkar Lake - Arbostone

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i had great respect for gunnars from our last matchup, and was eager to face them again. But posts like this, filled with heatred and misconception makes me doubt. during the night you proved yourself wrong, when you nightcapped everything. no 24/7 blobbing.

“and gunnars are all cowardly nightcappers with bunker down and build only ac’s. and run fast when they see an opposing player. No class and no style, only during the night they even dare to achieve something”

how do you feel about my generalisation of your whole server, potato? now go and read some posts from other match ups, it’s always the same old song, the underdog complains about blobbing and no class, and when the same server faces a weaker server they fiercly defend their numbers.

we had some nice fighting with rage, mm and fury during saturday, but your guild wasn’t even memorable, dear potato

Please try to ignore them, It’s not your job to stop people from playing the game. Also, we suffer from exactly the same problem, when things are going well we have a huge number of players but when it’s going bad our numbers drop a lot. Anyway, i’ve been having fun and i hope you guys have been too.

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12/7 Gunnars Hold - Drakkar Lake - Arbostone

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We have less people “blob” on weekdays so chill out ^^ Im looking forward to fight you guys this week and hope that we will all have some fun.

oh and btw: we tried small scale groups on gunnars bl last night ( 3 guildgroups and one small public zerg) but you blobbed so much that we had to put our forces together.
So stop complaining about our numbers you have them too

Blobbing or not it was a really fun night. Our numbers are confined to prime-time which is unfortunate, but we’ll give you a good fight when we can.

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12/7 Gunnars Hold - Drakkar Lake - Arbostone

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Or GvG! 15v15, maybe 20v20.

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12/7 Gunnars Hold - Drakkar Lake - Arbostone

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Really fun opening night. Shame about AS numbers though, hopefully they pick up during the week.

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05/07 Aurora glade - GH - Miller [Merged]

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SOE from Gunnars ! N1 fight against you finally we found a guild to fight alone i think we even were same numbers aswell

Props to FURY aswell completly alone today! Cheers! we couldnt match your numbers but still fun challenging fights! Keep running solo

Sry that the portal bomb gone wrong..we saw it too late ! sry for that!

Yeah, thanks for the fight it was a lot of fun. We would have come back for another go but FURY beat us to it. Next time maybe.

Also, don’t worry about the portal bomb we were just messing around

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05/07 Aurora glade - GH - Miller [Merged]

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Sogradde…

Pug zerg, pug blob, pug megablob (Abbadons)

Organised guild, organised guild hand holding, organised blob.

Don’t use tier/population as a excuse that makes it even worse to encourage that german points playstyle because sure ain’t for the fights. Gunners you are like a hit and miss server, you have a lot of fight but sometimes too dead or too much handholding like SFR… that’s where disappointment comes from… Don’t want another server to be too boring like abba/RS that you don’t look forward to being paired with on reset. You have potential though.

If only SOE was a bit bigger, you guys have consistently brought the fights with and without others (when you are smaller than us I expect you to come with more)

Mya we’ve had really bad luck this week facing each other… but atleast I got Dantes back last night :P

It’s not like we call out in map chat asking for people to come help us kill TUP. People are attracted to the orange swords and if you stay in the same area for too long you’re going to get swarmed. You guys do it too, yesterday we had a really awesome 10min fight with QQ in the NE camp, seconds after we’d won 30+ TUP came in from the north, and 30+ MS militia came in from the south (obviously having been attracted by the swords).

I don’t think you quite understand that we only have 1 guild able to meet you with equal numbers, others like SOE just get trampled unless we chose our moments very carefully and hit you when you’re distracted. We simply cant meet you on an equal footing when you guys raid with so many. Sure at times we have a go just for fun but i can’t justify spending a whole night delivering lootbags to you.

FIRE are more our number and i do try to find them whenever i can but unfortunately i think we’ve only shared a BL once in this matchup.

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Thanks to Uni for the GvG last night. Also thanks to the TUP/team/FIRE guys for the late night duels.

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Hand holders will be hand holders, whatever floats your boat bromancers.

There’s a reason why Mya is the biggest threat per a person we come across and it’s because they stand alone… Unlike some who talk the talk but don’t seem to walk the walk.

One time only events tee hee… why would any WvWr want to play like the other german servers besides Millers. It’s just the easymode cope out option where no co-ordination or any kind of skill (lol in a mmo) is required.

Keep showing your true colours, and complain about other servers doing the same behaviour your actively encouraging. If you play for fights you wouldn’t hand hold.

Ready for some more QQ from guilds who do more action on the forums than by themselves in game, let your actions do the talking in game show me dem big balls
that I’ve heard so much about

Hopefully we get similar numbers tonight Mya on the same BL, I hope you get the fights your looking for to brighten up the match up besides Sunday’s few.

I think that’s incredibly unfair. As i understood it they held the event to help our militia better understand how WvW roaming guilds operate. It was more for education than anything else and i believe the community were the ones who asked them to hold it. By all accounts the turnout was much higher than anyone expected, but that just shows that our players are keen to learn how to counter guild raids like yours.

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Thanks for GvG tonight SOE & Fury

You guys not only met our expectations but greatly exceeded them. Thanks to the TUP members who took part, next time we get paired we’ll have another go if you’re game. All the best in your upcoming match-ups.

PS, best wishes to Kratoon.

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