Guild Wars 2

Romek.4201:

no
they like this storycrap and gw2 is now all about cutscenes and text – its even called “content”

Which is fine. I have no problem sitting through all of it the first time through. But to have to sit and click through 5 minutes of dialogue you’ve already seen just to get to the part where you go for the achievement is more than slightly irritating. At best maybe it’s just a limitation of the engine and they can’t do anything about it. At worst it’s lazy game design. Either way, as somebody who likes to chase achieves, it does make me wince to realize, now, that with every new content release that I’m going to have to waste a lot of time clicking through kitten I’ve already read and ignoring conversations I’ve already listened to. I’d like to think there is a better way to do it.

In regards to mesmers: As with most classes, your effectiveness at roaming depends largely on your build, but trust me when I say that I have zero issues picking or resetting fights on a mesmer.

The very moment after the game was released that PvEers realized they had to go into WvW for map completion, they complained on the forum.

That was nearly 2 years ago.

If Anet hasn’t done anything about it in that time, it’s unlikely they ever will. So just buck up and get it done like the THOUSANDS of people that have somehow managed to do it already. Trust me, they’re not all on servers where WvW is in cruise control.

Sirbeaumerdier.3740:

geekanerd.4123:

As a brief aside to some comments I saw earlier: It only takes a handful of dedicated trolls to ruin a gvg. I know, because a few gvgs I’ve been in have been targets. A large group that was bent on interrupting a gvg? kitten, I don’t care how much posturing anybody does or how good they think their guild is, ya’ll just better relocate because the fight isn’t going to happen at its current local. Besides, it’s not the red trolls you have to worry about; it’s the green ones. And I’ve yet to see even the best skill groups wipe people on their own server. That would be kitten ed impressive, though.

That was my point too. Half the people wouldn’t even be able to lay a finger on their rebellious “allies”. Still, me saying the things I’ve said wasn’t meant as a threat, but as a way to forcefully help some to get their head out of the @$$.

Nah, I feel ya. I just felt obligated to point out that, as far I’m aware, one can’t kill their own server mates. “Lulz, we’ll wipe u” doesn’t always apply to a good, old-fashioned gvg trolling.

As a brief aside to some comments I saw earlier: It only takes a handful of dedicated trolls to ruin a gvg. I know, because a few gvgs I’ve been in have been targets. A large group that was bent on interrupting a gvg? kitten, I don’t care how much posturing anybody does or how good they think their guild is, ya’ll just better relocate because the fight isn’t going to happen at its current local. Besides, it’s not the red trolls you have to worry about; it’s the green ones. And I’ve yet to see even the best skill groups wipe people on their own server. That would be kitten ed impressive, though.

The top players from China, NA, and EU? Normal pvp gonna be dead that week, ‘cuz that’s, like, pretty much anybody they can get that’s still playing right now. Natch.

Dude, how mad does a guy have to be to alt-f4 before being stomped? I’ve seen it a few times, but not so frequently that I’d consider it a trending habit. Anyway, I’m proud of every cow kitten I’ve taken in the grill — least it means I died giving as good as I got. Sometimes. Every now and again dat zerg runs you over and there’s not much giving there.

Yasi.9065:

geekanerd.4123:

Waffler.1257:

Any competitive activity will have people with competitive attitudes. It is entertaining to see someone complaining about being insulted on the internet call all the people insulting him basement dweller’s who depend on their mom for cold cereal. You are a beacon of maturity.

Perhaps you and I have a different view of what constitutes a ‘competitive attitude’. I’ll open myself up to healthy and constructive criticism and competition all day. But if having a ‘competitive attitude’ also includes verbal abuse, rage quitting, name calling, quitting, and general kittenbaggery — well, then, ya got me! I guess I’m anti-competition.

Also, the initial post was a light-hearted joke playing on a well-known trope. I think most of the people responding in this read took it that way. That said, even if you thought it was insulting, I assure you, it’s a delicious helping of strawberry shortcake compared to the kitten sandwich of toxicity that I’ve seen in-game. Besides, I doubt all the creeps on the internet live in their mom’s basement. I’m sure plenty live in the attic. Oh, kitten, slipped again. Hard it is to live up to my status as a beacon of maturity.

You really think your kind of underhanded insults is in any way better than plain old raging? I really dont want to live in your society. I take plain old raging and name-calling over your kind of sly insulting every time. At least those raging dont try to elevate themselves above everyone.

Me telling you, that you are a carebear… and me telling you that some spvp players – like you for example – are just not motivated enough to win and just play for fun… those are basically the same insults.

Think about it.

I thought about it.

And I reject your argument wholesale. For a variety of reasons, a few that I’ll illuminate for you shortly. First and foremost — and I already addressed this but perhaps more clarification is in order — I wasn’t insulting anybody. I was making a very broad joke that targeted nobody in particular. I’m trying to figure out why a few people are picking that as the impetus of my argument. kitten, at least do me a solid and go after a basement joke for being what it is: Old and easy and not particularly inventive. But hurtful? Seriously? Okay then. But let me just state this: If it was simply being told in a match that people were neckbeards or lived in their mom’s basement, I’d never make this post.

I also reject the notion that not wanting to be subjected to unsolicited verbal abuse makes me a ‘care bear’ or not motivated to win. By your logic, I’m not interested in a W unless somebody hurls a racial epithet or homosexual slander in a match and I should just be… okay with that? I should be okay with some kitten calling a team kittening useless or kittenters? You know, it’s funny about those types, it’s always the team and never themselves that’s the problem. It’s always somebody else’s fault. And, yeah, sometimes it is. But a lot of the times it’s not, but god forbid somebody point that out to the narcissistic creme-de-la-creme of the so-called pvp elite. You know what makes me competitive? You know what makes me want to win? Understanding why we lost and what I can do better next time to help the team. That can be done without throwing a tantrum, which for me there’s never an excuse. I don’t care how kittenty the team is; being an kitten to people doesn’t motivate others to learn and get better. In fact, it usually just inspires the opposite.

Lastly, I want to add that, maybe you don’t want to live in my society? Well, I sure the hell don’t want to live in yours. And on that I suppose we can only agree to disagree. But saying that I’m not motivated to win for my team and I’m a care-bear just because I don’t like what boils down to gross immaturity in the game? That’s a baseless assumption that borders on gross ignorance and I sort of feel bad for you.

Katelynnlovescarlos.8051:

snow.8097:

for me is the hate against thief the class and their mechanic itself.
For me its like everything that someone can hate Comes together in one class
Spamming, Stealth, condi kitten, so many evades, coming unmanly from behind and running away like a lightning when they got too much dmg and come back after using shadow refuge aka “reset button” and feel like king when they beat u surprisingly even we wrecked them in 1v1.
what i hate the most, when they cant beat u, they come in between in a 1v1, help killing u and finish to feel like a Boss-.
for me its unhonourable class mechanic and for me its no wonder that many Players dislike thiefes

“You don’t fight with honor!”
“No, but he did…”

We’re a thief, we’re assassins, we’re the shadow upon your body, we’re the gust of wind on your back, as I pull my dagger from your back.. I will laugh at you dying with your honor..

Ah, kitten, son! You just got RPed trolled. GG.

Waffler.1257:

Any competitive activity will have people with competitive attitudes. It is entertaining to see someone complaining about being insulted on the internet call all the people insulting him basement dweller’s who depend on their mom for cold cereal. You are a beacon of maturity.

Perhaps you and I have a different view of what constitutes a ‘competitive attitude’. I’ll open myself up to healthy and constructive criticism and competition all day. But if having a ‘competitive attitude’ also includes verbal abuse, rage quitting, name calling, quitting, and general kittenbaggery — well, then, ya got me! I guess I’m anti-competition.

Also, the initial post was a light-hearted joke playing on a well-known trope. I think most of the people responding in this read took it that way. That said, even if you thought it was insulting, I assure you, it’s a delicious helping of strawberry shortcake compared to the kitten sandwich of toxicity that I’ve seen in-game. Besides, I doubt all the creeps on the internet live in their mom’s basement. I’m sure plenty live in the attic. Oh, kitten, slipped again. Hard it is to live up to my status as a beacon of maturity.

It’s unfortunate, but lately I’ve taken to going invisible and turning off map/team and say chat. And that sucks because there is a portion of the soloq population that are cool and want to legitimately communicate to win. But it also seems that, more often than not, there’s always the kitten that wants to ruin it for everybody. Teamque is generally more polite, but even there people have their moments.

(My block list is an impressive thing)

Anyhow, I don’t really get any particular enjoyment from engaging with the ragers, trolls, kittenholes and dimwits. If I want to steep myself in negativity, I’ll just go visit any sports-related message board.

Eldrad Ulthran.9360:

solo que is a tournament for casuals. let casuals do what they want. if you think it really matters what you reach in solo que then simply go to the outer world and have a day out cuz it kittenin doesn’t matter. the only competitive playmode is teamque. deal with it and quit crying

The fact that you think teamque is the ‘only competitive playmode’ with its overabundance of cookie-cutter builds, broken Asura animations, and pre-made’s exploiting — rightfully so — the general imbalance across classes… What’s so competitive about it again? Oh, right. Nothing. It’s a stance that certainly weakens the drivel that was the rest of your post. Good work!

I used to think it was a lack of sunshine. That might still be a part of it, but now I think it has more to do with that long walk up the stairs out of mom’s basement to the kitchen only to find that it’s cold cereal for breakfast. AGAIN.

Discuss.

Tibstrike.2974:

grifflyman.8102:

geekanerd.4123:

style.6173:

We need to see how FA does in T2. I’d like to see how they compete.

FA has been to T2 before. The majority of the population isn’t going to be intimidated by SoS or Mag, not when they fought them often before season 2. I’m not saying FA is going to win the PPT battle, but they won’t balk at fights. I can promise that.

Mag is home of some pretty good guild groups, FA is going to learn a lot and when they come out bruised and bloody they will learn and only then will I fear them as an SBI player

Wat.

It’s not like FA is some bottom of silver league server that bandwagonned up. They have probably fought Mag more than most servers. They know what to do against them. Its not like its a secret.

Yeah, I’m not entirely sure where this idea started that FA is going to ‘learn’ something by going up to T2. Don’t believe me? Go to MOS and check the matchup history pre-seasons. What servers were FA fighting against before seasons started? No, I’ll wait. … That’s right. Mag and Sauce. Go back further. Yep, you’ll see that FA has a long history of fighting in T2, well before Maguuma jumped up and TC still blobbed with PINK. Most importantly, the FA core are people who’ve been there for the long haul. Sure, they’ve lost a few pretty good skill groups, but they’ve also gained a few. They’ll be fine. Believe me, if SoS and Mag weren’t so sure they’re going to get better fights out of FA, they wouldn’t be lobbying so hard for DB to drop into T3.

Thiefz.3695:

I fail to see how this hurts higher placing servers.

Thank you ANET!

It doesn’t. But it just goes to show that even by adding extra rewards people are still going to kitten. Pretty crazy, really. Beyond that, I don’t think there was a single first-place server that had to actually really put in overtime wvwing for the prize. From Jade Quarry to HoD to GoM, it was a coast to the finish line because of coverage and/or double-teams. No, the servers that really put in the time and effort are the ones that fought tooth and nail for 3rd, 4th, 5th place finishes, and so on. And they absolutely deserve an extra 100 tickets and the skin. To wax otherwise is at worst plain kitten selfish, and at best just ignorant of how the season played out.

style.6173:

We need to see how FA does in T2. I’d like to see how they compete.

FA has been to T2 before. The majority of the population isn’t going to be intimidated by SoS or Mag, not when they fought them often before season 2. I’m not saying FA is going to win the PPT battle, but they won’t balk at fights. I can promise that.

manveruppd.7601:

These people need to stack the odds by giving the opponent free kills in order to WIN AT HOTJOIN? How bad are they???

Also, you do realise that the win bonus in hotjoin is TINY, and that if you get autobalanced away from the winning team YOU STILL GET IT right?

Of all the problems this game has, I would rank the bushes not being comfortable enough for the outlaw mobs hiding in them in the Kryta starting zone higher than this.

To be fair, the Krytan Outlaw Union (or the KOU, for short) has been petitioning ANet for sometime for more comfortable bushes. Lets not poo-poo their plight against pvp. After all, with new living story content coming up, it is quite important for every Krytan outlaw to have comfortable bush. Actually, there’s a whole section in the Guild Wars 2 EULA on how PvP content will only be addressed and updated when 50 oak barrels are full of pvper tears. They use tears to distill ANet moonshine, QQ special blend. Why else do you think they let us languish so? Neglect? No. It’s for delicious adult beverages.

Waffler.1257:

I agree, I wanted the mistforged weapons to be exclusive so that I can tell who all the bandwagon bads are. Now everyone will look like a bandwagon bad. What do?

/thread

CureForLiving.5360:

Fear.6358:

Mark Katzbach.9084:

nothing.7941:

DevonCarver.5370:

The area we added to Obsidian Sanctum was in progress prior to the incident mentioned above

lol, I’m not buying that.

Much like science, you don’t have to believe it for it to be true.

lol I love how anet just bashes people and you guys still play the game. sad story

Not the most tactful, but being a flesh and blood human some annoyance is to be expected especially when having to repeat the same thing several times and being called a liar.

I hardly consider that ‘bashing’. A little snarky, perhaps, but also deserved. Being a customer doesn’t entitle one to also be an kitten. I’ll gladly devote more time to GW2 for every time an kitten gets called out by a dev. Besides, Katzbach does make an excellent point about science.

Onwards and upwards to more important matters, I was in a guild that helped beta test the EotM map. Even early on, we saw some awesome potential for open field fights, potential that was never really realized. Was it because of a poor map design? No. EotM actually is cool map. What ruined it was lack of cohesion with the main WvW game mode and, as mentioned in other posts, easy rewards. It’s funny, really. Few nights back a handful of people in my guild were running around EotM ganking the pug mobs, and we were being called out in map chat for actually wanting to — gasp! — fight. Hell, I had one guy whisper me in detail on how Edge is purely for karma training and that if we wanted to kill people, we should go to the main WvW maps. Much like Ron Burgundy, I wasn’t even mad, I was just impressed that such an interesting map had devolved to such a point. No fights? Just karma? Jeeeeesus. It’s like going into a tpvp match and being told not to fight the other team, just run around capping and decapping points. No thanks.

projectcedric.6951:

I’ve decided to join the people who immediately afk when this map comes up. Don’t care if it ruins 4 other peoples game. Could use the 5 minutes having better entertainment doing something else.

I think that’s an incredibly kittenty thing to do. But godkitten if I don’t blame you for doing it.

I have an alternate account I also pvp on with a level 8 necro. I find the people I pvp with as the level 8 are often different faces than who I am teamed up with and against on my main account. However, every few rounds, the Deer level necro is pushed into a round with Dragons, Pheonixes, Sharks, etc. But not as often as you might think.

On a side note, I find it vaguely amusing when, on occasion, I get a snarky comment in chat for being a low-level or noob. I never mention that it’s just an alt account. I just play. I think that’s more common than people realize. But is it frustrating to be in a match with people who don’t know what they’re doing? Of course is it. All you can do is just play your game and hope that they’re smart enough to pick up on how to play in pvp.

I don’t understand people being kittens in whispers or team chat. QQ kittenes in team chat are, at worst, mildly irritating but typically just amusing. My personal favorite is when two or three players from a previous match get into a chat fight, and they are rerolled onto my team in the new match. Where they, of course, continue to snark at one another. You can almost just feel the loss coming when that happens. They spend too much time typing in chat and not enough in fights.

Anyhow, raging, crying, kittening, and whining in any form at your team — or the other — in chat is the domain of spoiled 12-year-olds and neckbeards. Congratulations if you fall into either or both of these categories. You’re a credit to your species. For the rest of us, limiting chatter to strictly what’s going on in the match and walking away when it’s done — win or lose — without being a kitten to other players is the sign of a little maturity. More people should try it sometime.

Seifer Thalaen.7869:

geekanerd.4123:

I have a legendary great sword and I also have over 2000 rated pvp matches played. So, yeah, you are one of those toxic guys making silly assumptions about people’s skill levels simply based on gear. Congratulations. My advice? Worry more about what you do and less what others do and you’ll probably make more friends. If you told me what I should run in pvp, I’d probably tell you to go eff yourself, as well. kitten, you should be happy it’s something different. Like the game needs more hambow warriors.

I have like 5k+ rated tournaments since start out of total 10k and something total matches in 3.5k hours in pvp only…so what’s your point exactly? Because topic was about ppl new to pvp actually refusing to get better calling you kitten while everyone complaining bout old pvp players being bad cuz they don’t want to help them…wanna know why i won’t help those guys? Here you have the reason…and for sure it was not the first one, from trying to explain pu mesmers not to use than in tn to condi engi not to go 1v1 vs condi necros or ppl not to stay 1 minute 1v1 with bunker guards, really few times ppl actually understood but most of them just told me to gtfo and mind my business.

Good for you. You’re a pvp hero, god bless. But judging people’s skill by what gear they have on is silly. Thing is, the people who want to get better will solicit help. In the forums, in map chat, from friends or people on their team. Save your advice for those guys. And those who don’t? Not your job to bother them. But if that’s your MO and you just gotta whisper people, maybe try to be more constructive about it. Perhaps start with, ‘Can I make a suggestion?’ instead of just, ’you’re a noob, do this.’ Never know. Might get more receptive responses that way.

I have a legendary great sword and I also have over 2000 rated pvp matches played. So, yeah, you are one of those toxic guys making silly assumptions about people’s skill levels simply based on gear. Congratulations. My advice? Worry more about what you do and less what others do and you’ll probably make more friends. If you told me what I should run in pvp, I’d probably tell you to go eff yourself, as well. kitten, you should be happy it’s something different. Like the game needs more hambow warriors.

Haven’t done much teamq lately, but there’s no doubt in my mind soloq has slowed down somewhat. I blame Obama, Skyhammer, cheese builds, meta trash, condi spam, Kathy Griffin, Wildstar, ESO, low-fat ice cream, Christmas fatigue, China, decaf coffee, non-alcoholic beer, and dat lag.

Lupanic.6502:

The moment Ostricheggs hits lvl 70

That made me chuckle.

On topic, I think the half-dozen or so times I’ve been on a team that pulled off a 4v5 upset ranks up there with my best moments. It seldom seems to click that you can pull it off until a bit after those first 100 ticks. And when your team hangs in there and rotates perfectly and steals the win, that’s a good feeling.

…

But, still, kitten 4v5s.

I think all the complainers are missing the point. Because I know there’s really no better way I like to spend my evenings than sitting in a 20 minute queue and then rolling Skyhammer. IT MAKES ME LOVE GW2 SO MUCH.

There’s little I can add to the list that hasn’t already been mentioned. But the two biggest things that I feel hurt WvW over the long haul are A. Poorly designed, implemented, and far too long season format. I get it, they wanted to do something to spark some interest, but the path to hell is paved with good intentions. B. Megaservers. I understand why they did it. I’m not even sure I’d even argue against it now, for various reasons. But there’s definitely a sense of loss that a community doesn’t ‘own’ their hubs anymore. I always looked forward to logging into LA and seeing all the faces of people I recognized from WvW. Now it’s as many strangers — if not more — than people I know. And everybody is spread out between the main hubs, now. Which is neat, in a way, because it makes the GW2 ‘world’ seem a bit more full, but it also definitely kicked out the legs the wvw community.

As an aside, does the HoD/FA dumb kittenery really have to spread to every thread? Yeah, we know, people are kitten everywhere and it sucks. But try to keep it out of topics that really have nothing to do with what’s going on there. Cool? Cool.

SaintSnow.6593:

bethekey.8314:

I never thought I would see the day.

Guild Wars 2 Bucket List

• People complaining about turrets – Check

Tears slowly form in my eyes. The day i saw turrets and nerf in the same sentence, a feat believed to be impossible.

Funny, isn’kitten It was only about 6 weeks ago where a turret engi would be laughed out of the match. And now people complain that it’s too powerful? No, it isn’t. So much godkitten kittening, and engineers can never win. ANet, two years into release, finally gives engineers options for viable turret builds, and the forums QQ? Good God, lets just scrap every godkitten profession in a game and make a single new one just called ‘Vanilla’. There’s just one skill bound to the 1 key called ‘Sally eats vanilla ice cream’. That way we can all sit around mid point and eat ice cream with your toons and nobody will ever have to cry again.

Or, or, or just learn to counter a turret engi. Not that hard.

I don’t have the answers on how to fix WvWvW. I’ll leave that up to people smarter than me and with more tolerance on being ignored by ANet. But between the unnecessarily long duration of Season 2, the burnout, the same kitten servers almost every week, server-stacking, coverage issues, and a myriad of other problems, all I know is that I’m relieved the kitten-show is coming to an end. Season 3 can’t come slowly enough.

Beleth.8249:

Chaos Archangel.5071:

I just wanna point out that its really cool that when the OP got criticized in-game instead of going “wut lol kitten”, they actively seeked to improve themself and asked for help.

Props to you, dude. Need more open-minded players like this

This.
Wish OP all the best now.

I can only hope that the people that called the OP out in the match were as objective and polite in their criticisms as the people here have been with their suggestions. Oh, wait. It was soloq. That place has the eloquence and grace of a club-footed sailor on shore leave. So double-props to the guy who can ignore the kittens and try to get better. But just know that even great players get called noob kittenbags in pvp, from time to time. It’s the nature of the beast.

I’ve been playing around with turret builds a lot after the patch dropped. I always liked the idea but until recently they never seemed all that viable except for maybe the thumper turret for decap. I’m running a somewhat similar build to the OP, but I’m using balthazar runes, double-pistols, and I bounce between clerics and rabid amulets. Build works really well, whether holding a point solo or helping a team fight.

I like it. I enjoy having all my skins and I think the new interface is much easier to use once you get used to it. No having to apply six runes to six different pieces of armor, no having to hop out of a match if you need to quickly change a build. It’s all right there and easy to use. But, hey, I’m starting to understand more and more that the forum is mostly full of complainers that seem to struggle being happy with anything. Most of the PvPers I talked to in game, though, dig it.

Yeah, I hope they fix it. There’s a lot of days I don’t want to touch pve to get my daily.

Juunro.7082:

Omega.9601:

Juunro.7082:

Tom.8029:

Fa is being double teamed by HoD and YB. How is that automatically grounds for an implosion?

Now, I don’t actually care and don’t have a dog in this fight, but when FA double teamed SBI with another server last league to knock SBI out of 2nd (you literally ignored the third server entirely for the whole week) you told us it was all in our heads and we were just using it as an excuse for losing.

Just saying.

‘course, I transferred to Kaineng for this league because bronze is more fun and less mega-blobby, and don’t regret it in the slightest, so whatever.

That was ebay and yb that double teamed sbi, FA had nothing to do with that

Was it? This is why I shouldn’t post kitten before coffee. I do recall you guys giving us no end of crap over it though.

It was. I was on Ebay briefly during that time and there was a point where YB was sending their zerg over to Ebay just to get stomped so Ebay would gain points on SBI.

TitaniumDog.3054:

Kaos.9162:

Compared to what they were ticking earlier, +60 is actually pretty good for FA…

Not really surprised. At one point last week Hod were ticking 695 and the others 0,0. Even though the opposition may not have been great, still need pretty large coverage over all 4 BL to do that.

That’s silly. HoD doesn’t have coverage. FA and YB have equally sized zergs fighting them even as we speak. It’s all skill, baby!

Surprised this thread hasn’t been shutdown yet. The mods nuked that NA Gold League thread pretty fast when it started to smell too much like a match-up thread. Anyhow, to our friends in HoD: The only time that FA seems to have more numbers than HoD is late SEA into EU. NA prime-time numbers are relatively the same and you absolutely destroy OCX. That’s fact. To anybody suggesting that the FA/YB zergs are the same or greater in numbers than HoD anytime outside of SEA and NA prime, you’re either very naive or flat-out ignorant. I mean, look, anytime a server has enough people to own all of another server’s points and and leave a large group behind to spawn camp at north camp, you’re probably doing pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty good in coverage.

However, HoD’s numbers dominance has also seemed to drive out many if not most of FA’s fairweathers and PvEers. This is not a bad thing. It lets the skill groups jump around maps without worrying about hitting queues, which is nice.

No. But there was a serious underestimation of how thick HoD rolls OCX into SEA. FA has little OCX coverage. I’ve seen HoD’s sea of red early am server time and it’s impressive. I mean, they’re kittenters through and through as far as fights go, but you don’t need to be skilled to throw 50 bodies against a hard point until it changes colors. It’ll be up to FA NA to make up the difference, but I think it’ll end up being close one way or another.

Oh, and count down until this thread is locked.

Nary Why Irk.8150:

That´s because they lost faith about this game way too long ago.
Click, the first r70? I talked to him long time ago and he said this game and this pvp sucks.

I have made my way to r69 2/3 by carrying noobs to the win for hundreds of hours in this pvp, your words arent in need of a serious consideration to me.

Its a big insult giving any r55 the elitist award of dragon emote, when the real dragons should be the few r70´s out there.

If some of them dont say anything about this, it´s because they lost interest and faith in this game development anymore.

Personally, I dont give a f v ck about this game anymore, it proved to be a fail of development to me and I have other interests in real life.

But, that doesn´t change the fact the rank system change is terrible, inadequate, unproportional and goes against the meaning of a dragon emote (see back guild wars 1, only Starcraft and few more got his emote). That´s just how it should be. Something rare for the ones who have played and worked more for it.

Not something that even my cat can achieve after 2 weeks of gameplay.

And yes, I talk with Starcraft often, he is near r70 and he shares pretty well my point of view about the rank points needed for 80.

I guess I’m a bit confused by this post. You have a sentence that says you don’t care about the game sandwiched between a whole lotta ‘Haha, just kidding, I care a lot about the game.’ Pick a side, man.

sendmark.4731:

There are pvp rewards only a few can obtain – such as tournament finishers. and which take actual skill. How about we tell tales of them?

The bit about the ‘mystic R70+ legends’ did make me laugh. Farmbots with dragon finishers sure think a lot of themselves.

I’m not saying that there’s not farmbots that are 70+. But what I am going to say is that the vast majority of rank 70 people I run into in team and soloq? Legit as kitten. That said, I don’t really care one way or another about the change. I play PvP for the challenge and the wins, not finishers. You show your skill by playing well. Not that I don’t want rewards and a progression system — that’s important — but synergy in a team trumps that, in my book.

Anyhow, I’m not convinced this is far to the players who put in the time to get to 70+. But at the same time, if this brings 1000 pvers into pvp, and even 250 like the mode enough that they stay around and compete? Isn’t that a win? I think it is.

The new progression system doesn’t bother me.

joonasp.9217:

kirito.4138:

Sampo.9678:

kirito.4138:

Does rank even matter? Just play.

Yea you must be fine with rank 1-10’s in your team
They are just as good as rank 50+’s

Matchmaking isn’t based on rank points.

Rank -> Time played.

Well, at least before Skyhammer exploiting. Now it’s the opposite.

Now I actually prefer the rank 1-10s instead of the r50s cuz I know they’ve not been Skyhammer farming.

Rank isn’t always indicative of skill, but that’s not to say that there aren’t quite a few very legit rank 50+ players.

Yeah, decap engi is rough to deal with in most cases. I’ve been playing a zerker rifle engi that spikes damage through mines and it actually works pretty well against decap engineers since A. I can pop them off point as well and B. If they dance in the circle AR isn’t as much of an issue since I DPS instead of condi-stack. But, still, it’s not a guaranteed win by any stretch.

I’ve never had a problem with people playing a heavy bunker guard. The build doesn’t seem cheap or easy-mode to me, anyhow. That’s what the class is made for and they’re not nearly as annoying as a decap engi.

Decap engi is definitely up there. I’d say a good bunker guardian on mid-point will net a lot of wins in SoloQ, as well.

trampled underfoot.4523:

My favourite, though unintentional I suppose; is the obligatory “gg” at the end of the match even as the game ended 501-23. It is often stated to commiserate the absolutely one sided match.

The responses one receives from the opposition (assuming you are on the winning team in this debacle) is priceless. Some of the PM’s I have received after a simple “gg” would make any troll blush.

Sometimes I feel a little awkward for the guy that ggs at the end of the match and nobody responds. They just leave. I see your gg and raise you kittened off silence!

HTH: Hammer Trains Happen

I suppose I might be in the minority, but I don’t really care about all my glory boosters. Doesn’t bother me that they’re going away one whit.

geekanerd.4123:

Archilese.3218:

T1 and T2 has never been more balanced, both matchups were within 10k of each other, want to know why? because the guilds on T1 and T2 move to balance out the servers as much as they can.

DB people complaining that you win to much, quit being spastic and MOVE

SBI/SOR, merge your guilds and get some from lower tiers

Use your brain, DB can’t beat anybody in T2 why would you want them to move up that just means either FA or Mag will drop back down and will kitten all over you harder

No major WvW guilds are paying 1800 gems to come to SoR for a week to fight DB. And no major WvW guilds are paying 2400 gems to get curb stomped during the league afterwards. You have to know that, right? I mean, the best I could say otherwise is that you need to do something about the utter naivety you possess about SoR’s current situation. At worst, that’s just a dumb statement to make. Either way, SoR needs to FALL several tiers before it even starts to think about being competitive again. But it can’t because it’s going to be stuck in a silver league it doesn’t belong in for the next two months. Nobody is transferring to a dead WvW server. Not until it can stabilize in tier 7ish and rebuild, anyhow.

truewingnut.2517:

Yep, same CRAP, different week. What happened to randomizing the match-ups?

Guess they are gonna try and kill WvW. Watching DB gain 150+ points over 3 weeks to take a higher spot because SoR is tanking. Pitiful.

SoR isn’t tanking. Tanking insinuates that there is a concerted effort on the server not to show up for WvW in order to improve the odds of landing in a league underneath the one we’re currently in. Two things run contrary to this statement:

A. Nobody WvWing on SoR because there’s nobody left on SoR to WvW. It’s not a tank, it’s a free fall.

B. SoR belongs in Bronze. But even if there was some sort of server-wide effort to ‘tank’ to bronze (there isn’t, it’s just where SoR is heading because the vast majority of the WvW left) it won’t be able to lose enough points before the season starts. It would take another week, possibly two, even bleeding as much as SoR is bleeding. That’s not DB’s fault and it’s certainly not the fault of the few people left WvWing in SoR. And as much as I’d like ArenaNet to force SoR down to a more appropriate level before the season starts, that wouldn’t be fair to the servers in Bronze who don’t want to go up to Silver. So it’s a rock and a hard place right now, but the point is, there’s no plot on SoR to try to skew DB up into Gold. It is just what it is.

ShinsVortex.3175:

maybe SBI and SoR are doing it on purpose to drop in rank to get cheaper transfers? shrug just a hunch

I can’t speak for SBI, but SoR isn’t. Now, I suppose there’s an outside chance SoR could hit rank 13 the end of the week if some numbers fall into place, which would put it in line for free transfers. However, I’m of the opinion that even with free transfers, SoR will not get much of an influx if any, simply because I don’t think there’s no way enough people will come into SoR to make it competitive in Silver. There’s no point. At Bronze we’d have a puncher’s chance, but, again, it’s not going to happen until after the season ends.

Archilese.3218:

T1 and T2 has never been more balanced, both matchups were within 10k of each other, want to know why? because the guilds on T1 and T2 move to balance out the servers as much as they can.

DB people complaining that you win to much, quit being spastic and MOVE

SBI/SOR, merge your guilds and get some from lower tiers

Use your brain, DB can’t beat anybody in T2 why would you want them to move up that just means either FA or Mag will drop back down and will kitten all over you harder

No major WvW guilds are paying 1800 gems to come to SoR for a week to fight DB. And no major WvW guilds are paying 2400 gems to get curb stomped during the league afterwards. You have to know that, right? I mean, the best I could say otherwise is that you need to do something about the utter naivety you possess about SoR’s current situation. At worst, that’s just a dumb statement to make. Either way, SoR needs to FALL several tiers before it even starts to think about being competitive again. But it can’t because it’s going to be stuck in a silver league it doesn’t belong in for the next two months. Nobody is transferring to a dead WvW server. Not until it can stabilize in tier 7ish and rebuild, anyhow.

truewingnut.2517:

Yep, same CRAP, different week. What happened to randomizing the match-ups?

Guess they are gonna try and kill WvW. Watching DB gain 150+ points over 3 weeks to take a higher spot because SoR is tanking. Pitiful.

SoR isn’t tanking. Tanking insinuates that there is a concerted effort on the server not to show up for WvW in order to improve the odds of landing in a league underneath the one we’re currently in. Two things run contrary to this statement:

A. Nobody WvWing on SoR because there’s nobody left on SoR to WvW. It’s not a tank, it’s a free fall.

B. SoR belongs in Bronze. But even if there was some sort of server-wide effort to ‘tank’ to bronze (there isn’t, it’s just where SoR is heading because the vast majority of the WvW left) it won’t be able to lose enough points before the season starts. It would take another week, possibly two, even bleeding as much as SoR is bleeding. That’s not DB’s fault and it’s certainly not the fault of the few people left WvWing in SoR. And as much as I’d like ArenaNet to force SoR down to a more appropriate level before the season starts, that wouldn’t be fair to the servers in Bronze who don’t want to go up to Silver. So it’s a rock and a hard place right now, but the point is, there’s no plot on SoR to try to skew DB up into Gold. It is just what it is.

Reverence.6915:

Virtute.8251:

geekanerd.4123:

Reverence.6915:

zen.6091:

Reverence.6915:

I play late Oceanic to early SEA (3-7am server time) and it’s quiet as hell compared to NA populations and filled with pvdoor already so I can’t imagine how quiet it gets in lower tiers…

Also, TC is the only server currently experiencing 4 map queues outside of reset night…

People take to PvD and give up defending at all when one server can field a massive blob that no one wants to even try to defend against for hours on end, if they even have upgraded structures and supplies to bunker with.

A full queue doesn’t mean there’s quality activity on the map either. Usually it’s either huge guild blobs causing the server to stop working, or ton’s of afks and tower huggers doing nothing.

If you take a hard look at it, yes there are some potentially more exciting aspects of play on higher tiers with more numbers and guilds, but some of the issues with coverage and number disparities at any given moment are also amplified rather than evened out.

This is just a gross misunderstanding on how the highest ranked servers work. PVD isn’t cause one side is fielding a massive zerg, it’s because there’s not that many to fight against, allowing groups to hop maps to ninja anything that isn’t upgraded.

That’s not necessarily true, either. On more than one occasion, I’ve seen the enemy zerg actively do anything in its power to avoid fighting. A lot of people are there just to hit doors, hit champs, collect a exotic bag, and move on to the next tower. They’ve zero interest in engaging against the enemy unless it’s by a overwhelming margin.

Also known as “havok squads” and “ninjas”. It’s a fair play. The PvF surrounding it is all bluster.

I never called it havocing, and ninja-ing isn’t really defined by how many players you have with you.

I disagree. If you pop orange swords taking a point, I don’t consider that a ninja. But I’m not going to get into some semantics argument, either. So there’s that.