Guild Wars 2

Chinchilla.1785:

Seasniffer.1763:

Not including RISE, xD, DIE, and BOO?

No. RISE is strictly a RP guild. We do not consider ourselves a part of the “hard core fight guild” community that has been brewing in WvW since the beginning. We primarily gather in circles around purges to discuss our day. We do not engage enemies in combat, unless it is in tonics. Lastly, RISE is a garbage guild. Can confirm just a bunch of PvE heroes.

Oooh. RP guild with therapeutic guild chat. Are you guys open for recruitment? I need people to talk to and erp with. I don’t have any friends.

I left the game around a year or so ago. I really wanted the pvp thing to work. I played, actually literally, thousands of hours into it. But one day, the lightbulb went off in my head, and I realized that it was true what dozens — scores, even — of other people had written in these very forums from nearly day 1: The intrinsic nature a pve-first and foremost game trying to masquerade as a hardcore pvp draw was never going to work. From a balance standpoint and from an interest standpoint, it was always going to be pushing a boulder uphill only to have it roll back to the bottom again.

It’s been said in this thread, and it’s been said in a hundred threads before it: You want a competitive, mostly balanced pvp game? Gotta find a game that was built with that ideal in mind from the start. But if you enjoy Guild War’s 2 pvp for the hot mess that it is, that’s okay, too. Even for me, long away after eventually coming to terms that it’ll never be what I’d like it to be, I still look back on it somewhat fondly. It had its fun moments. Anyhow, anybody clinging to the idea that the next xpac will fix GW2’s pvp, you shouldn’t hold your breath. Guild Wars was, is, and probably will always be a pve-centered product. And that’s okay! But, because of that, it’ll never have the competitive pvp scene that many fans truly want. Even ESL finally realized that.

Somebody that gets it right here. Foefire is a /terrible/ map for solo que and a great map for teams. If you’re trying to progress solo, I couldn’t agree more: Stop picking it.

Ohoni.6057:

Yes, basically it’s a little like professional wrestling. ANet picks the winners and losers before the match, and you just play out your role.

It would be nice if they at least told you which you were meant to be so you didn’t have to figure it out for yourself.

Oh, wow. This is pretty brilliant. I think Anet should absolutely co-opt your idea and make it part of their esport branding strategy. They just need to throw in some heels, some babyfaces, a few sexy storylines, and Guild Wars 2 pvp suddenly becomes much more interesting.

Unfortunately, as more players continue to fall off from the bottom, the wait is going to get longer at mid and top. Sucks, but, I guess that’s what people wanted?

Salamander.2504:

brannigan.9831:

No I dont want to be a guy with 1,000 hours of pvp having teammates with 20 hours. I dont understand how anything can be fairer then being grouped with people your own mmr level. This is supposed to be competitive.

+1

If you want balanced matches, you either need to put in the time to get to your appropriate ranked position, or skip the league and stay in unranked.

Don’t worry, my friends. As it’s going now, you won’t have to carry anybody because there’s not going to be people left to carry. People think the pvp population is bad now? Wait until the exodus (that’s already started, mind you) hits full-stride. Then it’ll just be the top-250 beating on one another in ruby, no bubbles, no troubles. People throw around ‘ded game’ way too casually, but it might honestly describe pvp once the casuals and average players you hate carrying leave.

But if that’s what the powers that be want pvp to be? Then okay, good game, plan is working really well.

Torafugu.1087:

“System is fine. If you’re on a loss streak, go unranked. No one is entitled to do well in ranked.”

The system is not fine. the only reason he’s on a loss streak is the losing streak itself. The streak reduces his MMR and low MMR causes more losses due to flawed MM.
It’s not rocket science.

Well, they’re right. Nobody deserves or is entitled to anything in pvp. But what a weird kittening marketing scheme: PvP League Season 2 on splash screen, ready-ups, hype, everybody come play pvp for shiny backpack. Oh, but it’s going to be really, really kittening miserable for /most/ of you, and you’ll end up resenting the game mode if not the whole game itself, stick to unranked because you’re bad.

If that was the plan the whole time, I think they’ve a real success on their hands, here.

Locuz.2651:

The differences between teams are huge because its the start of the season. It will even out eventually and the differences between teams and players within certain divisions should be small within a few weeks.

I know it isnt fun at this moment if your mmr is low. The new bonus pips during win streaks will get players like me (26-2 so far this season, solo + started yesterday) out of the way in no time tho.

People understand that. It’s really not the issue the OP is asking. He’s asking, and interestingly so, will there be anyone even playing the lower tiers in a few weeks because of how terrible they’re experiences have been thus far? People don’t like to play video games to feel miserable and bad. They’ll go do something else. Seems a lot of top-players like to live in a bubble where they think new top-players are created in a lab and just injected into the system when an old one goes away. But, unfortunately, a healthy tournament system lives and dies on a healthy population. Keep 1000 players happy so that maybe one will stick with it, love it, get great, and be on a great team. And the rest, hopefully, will be interested in what the pros are doing. Lose that, and, well…

Anyhow, it’s too early to say if the sky is falling, but there’s no denying the temperament out there is pretty salty right now. For whatever that is worth.

Friend, I know people that are ready to give thumbs and pinky fingers just to break out of emerald. You just hit your wall. Now you have to wait for everybody that is better than you to move into ruby before you’ll progress again. Or maybe you just found your top and there is no going further. It’s a bitter pill we’re all swallowing, at some point or another. The bigger question is, is it worth it? Hmm.

The top players got the system they wanted and, if people are at all honest about any of this, probably deserved. They’ll get to, to one extent or another, escape the shackles of last season, where average to poor players could and would hold back the talented ones. Less instances of having to carry, and less instances of being carried, get a nice skin. Winner, winner, chicken dinner.

But, as the OP mused, sometimes you have to be careful what you wish for. They got what the wanted, but it /might/ have been a really kittening bad choice. Anet’s Season 1 presented X-prize to be attainable by even middling skilled players with enough patience and perseverance. Top players saw average players grind to legendary, didn’t like the look of any of that, so season 2 punches people in the nose and says, ‘Git gud’. So, yeah, there’s going to be /a lot/ of people that are going to be sad, angry, and hurt. And, more importantly, they’re going to quit. If not the game entirely, certainly the game-mode. That’s less new blood coming in the system, less people watching Twitch streams, following pro teams and ESL cups, and less competition all over. I can’t imagine that’s a good thing for a competitive scene that already needs all the help it can get.

So I wonder if it’ll all end up being worth it. Maybe when the top-500 get stuck in ruby because nobody is coming up from Sapphire anymore, they’ll be more noise from that contingent. We’ll see, I suppose, how it shakes out. But as of today, I can’t really say the outlook looks all that positive, as far as the health of the pvp community goes.

Supreme.3164:

geekanerd.4123:

Supreme.3164:

rwolf.9571:

Supreme.3164:

EPYON.2731:

Please fire the MMR Programmers & back S1 MMR.

One word: NO

S1 was a complete nightmare for me, still managed to make it to diamond entirely as solo player but then I quitted..I simply had enough to be matched with players who were clearly far below my skill level.

Right now I’m playing with people that I don’t need to babysit every kitten second, they will stomp/disengage/properly/ rotate/regroup/ress…without me telling them!

I’m just glad they got rid of that stupid 50/50 rule

Last season you could get diamond players that would tri-cap or go boss from start, fight off point, zerg move around the map…like seriously? diamond level players that play like hotjoiners

This PvP system is fantastic…that’s it, best piece of work from the PvP team in over 3 years

What are you smoking? I also solo q’d to diamond, but all I get is ppl 3 capping, not rotating, head smashing into mid with a 1 v 3, rushing lord, etc.

The question is…who were you before S1?

How many games did you have since starting? Were you ever on the solo/team leaderboard 2 years ago? Ever done paid tournies?

Have you got anything to justify your claim of having an above average MMR? and as such be entitled to good teammates?

@Laraley
You claim I’m being lucky but…I face full 5 man premade from ruby on a regular base now and I’m sapphire..still somehow win; I was getting easier opponents in amber but now my queues are like 10-15m+ and against premade..against which I win 2 out 3 on average

Even more so, yesterday got beaten badly by a premade ( like 600 to 10) and got recruited by the same premade because they liked the way I played.

Regardless of what you say..I worked hard to get an above average MMR ( played thousand upon thousand of games, went as far as 26 place on the leaderboard 2 years ago, 3rd couple of AG tournies, won few paid tournies at starts : Keiji Sakuragi ) and the 50/50 rule screwed me over for 1+ year now…I’m happy that’s gone

I was going to make an kitten joke, but then I saw all the bold text, and realized this was all super cereal.

Super.

Cereal.

You can make all jokes that you want but…given that no screenshot has been given I can only assume that people get what they deserve in the end….still anybody can come on the forum and talk big with no proofs, all pro with high MMR and nothing to show about it.. in the end really the joke is on you

More bold text. How can I argue against that? You win, sir and or ma’am. You win.

Supreme.3164:

rwolf.9571:

Supreme.3164:

EPYON.2731:

Please fire the MMR Programmers & back S1 MMR.

One word: NO

S1 was a complete nightmare for me, still managed to make it to diamond entirely as solo player but then I quitted..I simply had enough to be matched with players who were clearly far below my skill level.

Right now I’m playing with people that I don’t need to babysit every kitten second, they will stomp/disengage/properly/ rotate/regroup/ress…without me telling them!

I’m just glad they got rid of that stupid 50/50 rule

Last season you could get diamond players that would tri-cap or go boss from start, fight off point, zerg move around the map…like seriously? diamond level players that play like hotjoiners

This PvP system is fantastic…that’s it, best piece of work from the PvP team in over 3 years

What are you smoking? I also solo q’d to diamond, but all I get is ppl 3 capping, not rotating, head smashing into mid with a 1 v 3, rushing lord, etc.

The question is…who were you before S1?

How many games did you have since starting? Were you ever on the solo/team leaderboard 2 years ago? Ever done paid tournies?

Have you got anything to justify your claim of having an above average MMR? and as such be entitled to good teammates?

@Laraley
You claim I’m being lucky but…I face full 5 man premade from ruby on a regular base now and I’m sapphire..still somehow win; I was getting easier opponents in amber but now my queues are like 10-15m+ and against premade..against which I win 2 out 3 on average

Even more so, yesterday got beaten badly by a premade ( like 600 to 10) and got recruited by the same premade because they liked the way I played.

Regardless of what you say..I worked hard to get an above average MMR ( played thousand upon thousand of games, went as far as 26 place on the leaderboard 2 years ago, 3rd couple of AG tournies, won few paid tournies at starts : Keiji Sakuragi ) and the 50/50 rule screwed me over for 1+ year now…I’m happy that’s gone

I was going to make an kitten joke, but then I saw all the bold text, and realized this was all super cereal.

Super.

Cereal.

Rain.9213:

unconnectedjink.7609:

Win two pips. Lose two pips.
Win two. Lose two.

My GW2 life right now in a nutshell

The only mollification I get out of any of this — and it’s only a slight amount — is that I’m not the only one living in this same hell. T4 Emerald, and I can’t even break into T5 if my life depended on it, let alone Sapphire.

Yeah, it’s definitely an… interesting way to go. Dunno how it’ll all shake out in the end, but the impetus to implement a system that caters to the 20% of great pvpers in the game and puts the other 80% of casual/moderate skill pvpers into pip hell took some cojones!

Just happened here. Got a victory on Foefire with no pip and it doesn’t show up in my match history, either. I’d cry, but I’m out of tears at this point. But maybe I can make some sniffling noises.

Edit: Good news is that my next match was a loss, and I definitely lost a pip. So system working as intended.

Julian.2971:

Before the system was implemented 1/3 of the matches didn’t start because someone didn’t press the accept option. Now is very rare thanks to the dishonor.

I don’t think you understand what they’re saying. People are getting kicked out of matchmaking queues with no popups to accept matches. And it comes — because why not add insult to injury, because that’s awesome — with dishonor timeouts. It’s happened to me twice in the last few hours. So I have about 10 minutes of dishonor, at this point, for nothing. So, yeah, gg Anet. Fix yo kitten, please.

Heh. Funny. I’ve been wondering this, myself, recently. I loathe Foefire. What people call a ‘comeback’ mechanic I call a get-out-of-jail-free card. Outplay the other team all game and two DHs blow up your lord at 380 to 488 or whatever. I hate the mechanic and never vote for the map.

Blaming metabattle for people abusing meta builds is kind of like blaming the ocean for hurricanes. But okay.

Bacon.4918:

I don’t see the problem. Division rating is meaningless, MMR is the determining factor.

Well, look. I don’t know kitten about kitten about MMR or ratings or matchmaking or any of the convoluted mess that goes into making teams. I’m just a dummy that tries to win a half-dozen matches a day, for better and for worse. And all I’ll also concede that maybe there were skilled players on my team hiding behind those amber and sapphire pips and maybe this was just the match where one or two of them decided to mail it in. Correlation doesn’t necessarily mean causation, after all, and maybe we were going to get flattened by the other team even if every icon on the score screen had been ruby. That’s definitely a possible scenario.

San Andreas might also win the Oscar for best picture this year.

I’m just impressed that the system is so dumb sometimes. Yo, Anet, can I get the pip back that I lost in this matchup? No? How about a fair match, then? XD

Can’t you guys read? It’s right in the description of the activity: ‘Hit 10 skrit with snowballs anywhere in Tyria’. Clearly, ‘anywhere in Tyria’ means specifically at this event. Makes sense.

But my idea of good, old fashioned fun is putting in 5 hours of pvp and ending up exactly where I started in pips. I think other games need to take note of what Guild Wars 2 is doing and build in more static progression. It’s pretty awesome.

JoshuaRAWR.4653:

The problem with DH isn’t the damage, it’s the daze on traps trait combined with the elite trap pretty much holding you in place for 5 seconds, knocking you down constantly if you even try to move an inch.

CC in this game needs toning down, a LOT.

As someone else has mentioned, a Chrono + DH can pretty much keep you stunlocked indefinitely, and it’s kittening stupid.

I’m learning to accept that in any given game, I’ll be flying around the point like a ragdoll for a good 60 seconds of match time. I’m figuring out that this game’s CC is a lot like having diabetes! You can’t really get rid of it, all you can do is try to manage it.

Browrain.7346:

Actually I heard they’re abusing it like this to bring awareness to the issue. EU is no different, with Car Crashed claiming the top 3 spots.

I think Anet will be forced to address it before the end of the season.

That’s noble. It’s similar to why I do meth: To bring awareness to how bad it is for you.

Hey, yo. OP. Tell your mom to get back upstairs, ’cuz I only got about 30 minutes left before these blue pills stop working. Then you and I can jam out some WvW in, like, 5 minutes. And you better save me some of those godkitten pizza rolls.

Fyrebrand.4859:

“Personal guilds” were never intended to be a thing. People just have them for free extra bank space, and to be honest, it’s kind of a cheat. Not that I’m pointing fingers at those who do — heck, I have one since my old guild disbanded. At best, ArenaNet sort of treats it as a “look the other way” kind of thing. It’s not technically against the rules, but don’t expect them to bend over backwards to make sure “personal guilds” are catered to in all the new features.

HawkMeister.4758:

I´m done with the hype, I need cold hard facts now to decide my future here.

We’re all on the edge of our seats, I assure you… :P

Do you have any sort of sources or dev quotes to substantiate any of this? Or is this just one of those things where you’re stating kitten as facts just because… I dunno. You’ve got nothing better to do, I guess. Because I’ve never seen anything posted to suggest that personal guild banks are ‘kind of a cheat’ or Anet ‘looks the other way.’ One person or five-hundred people, if guilds weren’t supposed to have a place to store kitten, they wouldn’t have the option to do so.

Chuck.8196:

geekanerd.4123:

Chuck.8196:

Astralporing.1957:

Chuck.8196:

Astralporing.1957:

Chuck.8196:

I bet B is new and A is older. I bet B wasnlt played for a long time.

You bet. This doesn’t make that true however.

it does make it true if every player who complains of this has the exact same answer.

…no, that doesn’t mean it at all. All that means is that every person who complains about it complains about it. You seem to ignore that not every player does share that experience however. You especially seem to ignore that there are players with exactly opposite experience (seeing old accounts get way better drops than young ones).

Can’t ignore what doesn’t exist. Every player that I’ve spoken with does share this experience. I don’t ask " Is your new account better loot than you old?" It’s “Any difference in loot?” it’s always yes the newer is better. Never once has anyone ever said “My main gets better loot”. The fact they all have answered the same two questions with the exactly same answer…

Anecdotal evidence. Tastes great with crackers, little good for anything else. But since we’re traveling down that road, let me hop on the train going the opposite direction. I have three Guild Wars 2 accounts. One with 5,645 hours, one with 850 hours, and an infant account with 98 hours. I’ve gotten 2 precursors on my main account. I rarely even get exotics on my other accounts. Therefor, I postulate that older accounts are luckier than new accounts, based on my experience. Everyone I’ve talked to agrees with me.

Or it’s just that RNG doesn’t care when you made your account, it just rolls the way it rolls. Yeah, that sounds somewhat more likely.

Except that hundreds of players all see the same pattern. 2 or 3 people out of countless of complaints on forums just means you haven’t experienced YET what too many others are complaining about. You admit to having no idea and not experiencing it but are positive and content with your answer of “RNG”. just becasue you’re told something, doesn’t make it true.

Hundreds? Me thinks we are figuratively inflating the people complaining in this thread. Is there a strawpoll somewhere? Some sort of hard data that corroborates what all these ‘hundreds’ of people are saying? Statistics? Analysis of those statistics that isn’t just people saying that their luck sucks and then adding that a bunch of people agree with them? Yeah, hum. Not seeing it.

That said, you’re certainly right about the last sentence, but I find the irony in it a little funny. Just because a handful of people told me on the forums that their new accounts get better drops than their old ones, doesn’t mean that some accounts are ‘luckier’ than others. Just means that RNG is working. And this isn’t an argument that RNG is a great system, or even a good system, or that awards might could be more fair across the board. But I’m not on board with the idea that some accounts are secretly flagged, intended or no. Thanks, but no thanks, to that kool aid.

Anyway, this whole thread is like teaching algebra to a brick wall.

Chuck.8196:

Astralporing.1957:

Chuck.8196:

Astralporing.1957:

Chuck.8196:

I bet B is new and A is older. I bet B wasnlt played for a long time.

You bet. This doesn’t make that true however.

it does make it true if every player who complains of this has the exact same answer.

…no, that doesn’t mean it at all. All that means is that every person who complains about it complains about it. You seem to ignore that not every player does share that experience however. You especially seem to ignore that there are players with exactly opposite experience (seeing old accounts get way better drops than young ones).

Can’t ignore what doesn’t exist. Every player that I’ve spoken with does share this experience. I don’t ask " Is your new account better loot than you old?" It’s “Any difference in loot?” it’s always yes the newer is better. Never once has anyone ever said “My main gets better loot”. The fact they all have answered the same two questions with the exactly same answer…

Anecdotal evidence. Tastes great with crackers, little good for anything else. But since we’re traveling down that road, let me hop on the train going the opposite direction. I have three Guild Wars 2 accounts. One with 5,645 hours, one with 850 hours, and an infant account with 98 hours. I’ve gotten 2 precursors on my main account. I rarely even get exotics on my other accounts. Therefor, I postulate that older accounts are luckier than new accounts, based on my experience. Everyone I’ve talked to agrees with me.

Or it’s just that RNG doesn’t care when you made your account, it just rolls the way it rolls. Yeah, that sounds somewhat more likely.

I am having a laugh. But it’s not related to Guild Wars 2 at all. Just read a funny comic. Oh, Garfield, you rapscallion.

Icewolf.6790:

I was wondering I understand they said that the Revenant wouldnt be able to go back into the original gw2 content due to restraints and mechanics. But will our characters from gw2 going to be able to continue into the new expansion. Like if my warrior is 100 % complete in the original gw2 content will I be able to use them in the new expansion or will I have to create a whole new bunch of characters?

And this is how rumors get started.

I knew not having a life would pay off someday. But the beta invite only fills some of the emptiness. The rest: Cookies.

Thorquist.8126:

Garrisyl.7402:

ima kongkittenninja.3052:

Shocking…. “The Dreamer” got no update . . . . . . I really wish we had a effect when I first draw the weapon. (Like quip has the purple mist float around your character)

The Dreamer has had plenty of updates. I made it shortly after release, when it’s only effect was turning arrows into tiny rainbow arrows. It then got a major overhaul and started shooting huge, pink rainbow unicorns. At that point it already was one of the most visibly prominent legendaries. Even later they added rainbow footprints that last longer and glow brighter than most other footfall effects.

Crafters of The Dreamer have gotten lots of dev love, it’s time some of the other more overlooked legendaries got some too.

Minstrel and FSP? :P

C’mon. The Minstrel is already the most OP legendary. Gold chickens, a mostly-invisible musical note trail, and that beautiful ‘bong!’ sound it makes when you take it out. Oh Yeah. Hot kitten , so sexy. It’s truly the pinnacle of my legendary weapon collection.

It’s not impossible.

Granted, it took some trial and error and a handful of deaths on my part to figure it all out, but in the end I was able to solo it with only minimal frustration.

That said, I didn’t find the fight particularly fun or engaging. First, it needs to only be a third as long as it currently is. However, I’m starting to finally come to grips with the fact that ANet prefers overlong fights that substitute interesting mechanics with with ones that stretch out encounters to ad nauseum. We had to, what, whack dragon tendrils, light the fire, and then smack the dragon’s head 3 times over? Or was it just a really, really long 2? I don’t even remember. That’s how unimaginative the fight was.

Okay, that was a little harsh. Trim out the third tendril/fire/dps sequence and the fight isn’t too terribad. But what I do find just mind boggling baffling is that I don’t think that encounter has a reset mote. I could be wrong! But when I popped an achievement instance just to peek, I didn’t see any method to skip past any of the story sequence and get to the boss fight. Worse, after I re-slogged back through the cut scenes and memory sequences and dialogue to get to the fight, after I failed one or two of the achievement activities, I didn’t see any way to reset the fight (a la the way we could in Glint’s Lair an episode or two back). So that means, if I’m not mistaken, that the player (me) can potentially spend 10 minutes of trying to get through filler to get to dragon fight, fail, and then have to do all the filler again just to reset the boss encounter.

Huh. Okay then.

I hope I’m wrong. I hope I just missed a reset mote somewhere. If somebody provides any sort of information to the contrary of what I experienced, I’ll apologize and shut the hell up. But it seems to me that Anet’s refusal to respect their player’s time… I’m not even mad anymore. I’m just impressed. And in the end, I’m still the dumb-dumb that will hunt down the achievements, no matter how mind-numbingly bad some of them are implemented. So I don’t even know why I’m in here complaining. MAYBE I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO HEAR ME WEEPING. QQQQ

New system is okay. Really hate having to run around finding four events. Not all zones are created equally, so what might be a 10 minute stroll one day becomes a 45 minute marathon the next. Sucks. Hate wasting time waiting for events to pop. Find it super irritating. Cut it down to 1 or 2, or spread out the daily to cover more zones than just 1. Also, I’d strongly suggest taking pains to make sure the system never includes 2 fractal dailies in the same day, like a day or two ago (as of this post). One daily was, I believe, run a 1-10 scale fractal, and the other was just simply running a fractal. Which, I guess, for all the fractal people, that’s pretty great. For me, and many others, that don’t do fractals, it shoehorns us into the 3 remaining PvE dailies. And if this includes a boss that is on an hour and a half timer before it spawns again, well… geegee. Thank goodness for the wvw/pvp dailies, I guess, but it’s still sorta weak sauce that people are being, at times, FORCED into doing things that they may not otherwise want to do.

Rewards are great, though. Like the monthly login tracking. A few tweaks here and there and it could be a solid system that doesn’t make me roll my eyes when I have to go chase four events in Iron Marches.

Oh, man. This makes me want to start PvPing again and graduate from mostly-scrub to partly-scrub. Well done, The Abjured. Fun games to watch, if somewhat belatedly.

What are you guys complaining about? How can you not like wasting 10 minutes sitting through dialogue and cut-scenes and a long centaur fight just to hit a sand pool you can barely see so you are forced to do it all over again. It’s an ANet core value!

I thought they made some steps in the right direction when they inserted challenge motes in glint’s lair to restart boss battles. And then it’s back to square one with this episode with unskippable cinematics coupled with some achieves that can be easily failed. I don’t need to watch Caithe and Faolain shadowstep into the lab every. Single. Time. Insert a skip button. Please.

As somebody who complained in this thread way back about not being able to skip, I just wanted to say that the challenge orbs are a welcome and needed addition. Thanks for implementing this feature. Appreciate it.

jbondo.9817:

vinceftw.5086:

I have been running a shatter build ever since I created my mesmer 2 years ago. Now it’s a gimmick build because it’s on that site?

So today you’re going to learn about ethos.

I have a site with your shatter build on it. A website that I’m beginning to believe already has a large following.

(I’m not saying metabattle made the build, but I’m saying this guy isn’t anywhere near as credible as the website even)

I also have a comment from you, and I don’t know who you are, but apparently you’ve been playing shatter Mesmer for two years, which is just depressing in itself.

So my response is: Why the kitten would I trust a random guy, and why would you even try to take credit for playing one of the most OP (OVER-PLAYED) builds in the game?

And who are you? The High Lord of pvp? Your ego put a crack in my monitor. Guy said he runs a shatter build, probably similar to the one on the site, because, gasp, there are really only slight variations in shatter builds. He never claimed to have created it, he was just wondering why it is suddenly a gimmick build now that it’s on metabattle. What’s even more baffling about your post is this idea that somehow these meta builds were somehow a big secret before landing on that website. That’s an almost impressive amount of naivete.

You’re dumb. And should go away.

Oh my goodness. The hypocrisy of the WvW community — a community that I sometimes wince at being a part of — is sometimes awesome. It’s kinda amazing, really. Like Ron Burgundy’s words to Baxter when he finds out the dog eats a whole wheel of cheese, I’m not even mad. I’m just impressed.

Season 1 and Season 2 there was nothing but kittening about the pve crowd either taking up queue spots or being scrubs as they chased their achievements. And now that there aren’t achievements to chase, people are kittening that wvw needs more achievements to draw in bigger crowds of pvers? I’m so confused right now. I have vivid memories during season 1 of certain people on SoR getting outright hostile towards members of the guild EG for taking up queue slots during the season. And on FA during season 2 ‘pve scrubs’ were constantly belittled in map chat until they finally started to filter out after picking up their points. I suppose Operation: Meatshield is lacking willing volunteers. More importantly, I’m glad to see the hardcore wvwers coming around to what the pvers have known all this time: Get those APs! That hellfire skin won’t unlock itself.

Chris Whiteside.6102:

I will be fighting for Helioz [Hel] and on loan to CERN tonight on TC.

There will be blood!

Chris

FYI my main guild is AARM (They just don’t do much WvW)

One of my favorite people, Mr. Lubedini, commands for Helioz NA. Dude is a great driver and a better person. Green Arrow is the bee’s knees, as well. Should have a good time with those cats on TC.

I was hoping for something more epic. Just another thief qq thread to go on the smoldering heap of thief qq threads. Oh well.

Maybe it’s because I don’t kitten around with alts or leveling too much, but I really don’t understand what all the kitten is about. Somebody do me a solid and direct me to a relevant thread detailing why there is such a river of tears today.

I was about 20 seconds away from a full triple trouble decap when I lagged out of the game and couldn’t reconnect with the same problem. Not an internet issue on my end. Just a connection error trying to get back in. Yeehaw. There’s timing and then there’s the kind of timing that is simply epic beyond any real understanding.

I find it faintly amusing when people come to the forum to post about the many reasons that they’re leaving. The sad stories abound. Yet, I’m not sure what my reaction should be. Is it supposed to be a Jerry Maguire moment, where I’m supposed to stand up and say that I’m coming with you? Or perhaps I’m supposed to tell my friends that <insert player name here> is leaving Guild Wars 2, just so they can say, ‘Who the kitten is <insert player name here>, and what the kitten is Guild Wars 2?’ I dunno. You had me at hello.

By the way, Guild Wars 2 still boasts a very healthy population, despite the sort of ill-informed propaganda the nay-sayers like to spew. It’s just not reflected in a game mode called WvW, which is, without any doubt in my mind, shedding numbers. And that sucks. But the idea that the whole game itself is somehow on its last legs is laughably naive. It’s simply that much of that population doesn’t give two-kittens about WvW, and thus neither does ANet. Which is too bad.

mango.9267:

Johje Holan.4607:

King Amadaeus.8619:

I think Mag will end up either in T3 or bouncing between it and T4. Don’t be fooled, there are some people still here, but a lot are playing AA and the rest are not in tryhard mode at all.

That’s good to hear. I was worried you all would be too weak for T3 or T4. Shouldda know the “sky is falling” was exaggerated somewhat.

Mag is definitely too weak for T3 in its current state. It’d be competitive with them if the popular pugmanders were tryharding, but Mag in its non-tryhard state now would probably be around T4 level.

I was on SoR when the bottom fell out. I remember the initial chatter was that we would end up being a weak T3/solid T4 server. And then SoR was throttled in T2, and again in T3, and that pit just got deeper and darker. They’ve finally found some stability in round abouts T7, and I’m happy for them. But my point is that the fall can be a lot longer and harder than people might initially think. It wouldn’t surprise me if Mag ends up in T5 or T6.

Harbinger.8637:

So many haters, nice job op.

I agree, the hate is somewhat misplaced. It’s definitely a… thing to achieve that probably took no little time and dedication to the grind. I just wish I had it within myself to be impressed by the achievement.

DanielGames.5198:

Steplala.3678:

Was suprised that i was the first one to come to this. Anyways
My “beverly hills ninja” pretty much as close as i could get to this guy http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/29968/982616-beverly_hills_ninja_ps02.jpg
hope you like it, thanks for the giveaway and good luck to everyone

I love this.

I was considering a similar angle but Steplala beat me to it. GeeGee. Thus, I decided to go a more traditional route on my engi. Because engis make the best ninjas. Thieves might think they are, but they are just posers compared to what engineers bring to the ninja game.

Helm: Visage of Koda
Shoulders: Inquest
Coat: Sneakthief
Gloves: Mist Walker
Pants: Protean
Boots: Duelist

Dyes: A mix of cobalt, night shade, charcoal, and midnight purple.

Caltrops? Box of Nails. Smoke for that quick getaway? Man, engis got that in spades. Smoke bombs, flash grenades, smoke screen on the flame turret, smoke vent on the flamethrower. Plus rocket boots, slick shoes, and a wrench to beat people with. If that’s not ninja, I don’t know what is.

Oh Jesus. The biconics are scooby kittening doo. That’s both somewhat awesome and somewhat depressing. But let me flip this theory on it’s side for a moment. I posit that the player is not Scrappy Doo. Instead, I believe we’re Sonny and Cher from The New Scooby-Doo Movies. We’re A-List celebrities (Sonny and Cher, for those who might not know, were quite popular musicians and actors through the late 60s and early 70s) somehow stuck with a bunch of B-List teens trying to solve a mystery. Which would make the Pact the Harlem Globetrotters and Belinda Delaqua is Phyllis Diller.

Anyhow, it has bugged me somewhat that the commander of the Pact has had to do this song and dance routine to get the various racial leaders to meet. To use a bad analogy, it would be like if a restaurant caught on fire and the cooks ignored the billowing smoke and flames and kept cooking. Then the fire chief shows up and tells the cooks that the building is burning down, and they still ignore the flames and smoke and firefighters, and instead send the fire chief on a series of errands around the kitchen before they’ll listen. Stir a pot here, grab some carrots over there, and then they’re shocked when it all burns down around them. Tyria, I guess, is chock-full of dummies.

I’ve tolerated the repetition for achievement chasing in previous LS releases. Largely due to the fact that, as lame as it is to make the player sit through the same story sequence THREE TIMES (one time for the regular play through, and for many if not most of the sequences, at least twice more to get all the achievements) they’ve mostly erred on the side of brevity that just falls shy of head-desking. But the World Summit one? C’mon Anet. C’mon. I generally like the story. I have no problem going through it all once (though Anet should seriously take a page from other developers and make ALL cut-scene/dialogue content skippable at any time, in my opinion). The 5 solid minutes it takes just to get to the fight against the dragon in World Summit? Painful, just painful, especially when you fail an achieve and have to go through it all again. I don’t get it. It just seems lazy on Anet’s part and punishes the player unfairly for failing.