Guild Wars 2

haviz’s approval™ as well. GG

Dolan.3071:

It’s just another Full Zerker dungeon. LoS can clear almost all the trash. Suicide golems die when a Zerker looks at them, Destroyer is a DPS race, and alpha is just L2D. Honestly don’t know why it isn’t more popular…

Tell us which dungeon isn’t full zerk (fractals included).

Bash.7291:

Not sure how that would be disappointing, Good to see they actually fixed something. Even with taking out that 5% Still leaves me at 79% with fury…. which actually does bug me slightly that it is not 80.. Ill have to switch one of my jewels out for a ruby now >.<

*edited to remove the censor from “that it is” when its is used -.-

Now you see why it’s disappointing ;p

Dub.1273:

Fail, since their setup isn’t the very best for speedruns.

Video or it didn’t happen.

Bash.7291:

First picture is unbuffed stats, 20% crit is missing due to RHS and sigil of accuracy.

Second picture is stats with food buffs +bloodlust stacks. In normal combat I can keep 4-5 might stacks on, along with 75% fury up time once I get a proc 100% uptime against anything that causes burning, giving me 84% crit with 1h, 53% with 2h. Food is Omnom pies and sharpening stone.

Sorry to disappoint you but sigil of accuracy actually shows +5% now.

Nike Porphyrogenita.8137:

I played warrior first beta weekend. Played necro second beta weekend.

You can guess what I rolled at launch.

Necro?

Bright.9160:

Whereas Fractals typically yields 3-4 rares if you’re lucky, and like no money at all for completing it.

What about bag of coins?

Probably the only “constructive” feedback we would get here would be:

• learn to dodge an arrow
• bring as many projectile defense as possible

Though, it would be nice if some good people playing less wanted proffesions would give some tips.

Exactly, boring as hell. You don’t create multi-role class just to spam autoattacks.

Swirling winds last only 6 seconds while traited shield of the avenger 30 with inactives periods. Still waiting for the nerf to shield of the avenger.

What exactly do you mean? That patch notes from april 30 says that SotA and Sanctuary shouldn’t also destroy unblockable projectiles but it wasn’t actually changed?

Not even BV. Only soft cc works.

Sure, I always record my runs.

Just yesterday 4-manned shaman as an ele without a single guardian. So it is l2p. Oh and it was my first time as an ele at 48 lvl.

Patch notes about swirling winds are from april 30 while guardian’s skills from may 28. It’s hardly a stealth change when you know what happens before actual fight just by reading patch notes.

LH ele has 0 utility since you don’t use any skill beside autoattack. Not too mention squishiness for which your only defense is aoe blind (and maybe defensive aoe field to get blast combo out of it) every 2.82s.

It wasn’t changed weeks before patchnotes.

Quick Mouse.7635:

Another stealth nerf (not sure if already mentioned)

Old Tom miniboss:

The changes to guardian sanctuary and shield of the avenger, as well as elementalist swirling winds (air focus 4) means that Old Tom’s projectiles can no longer be asborbed.

How’s that a stealth nerf?

Elementalist

• Swirling Winds skill: No longer destroys unblockable missiles.

Guardian

• Sanctuary skill: No longer destroys unblockable missiles.
• Shield of Absorption skill: No longer destroys unblockable missiles.

I would seriously like to see a decent thief doing big plays in pve. This class isn’t just cnd→backstab. But one can just dream.

Wethospu.6437:

I tried to solo it on my Warrior on level 10. Really showed how crap Warrior actually is, unless you have someone carrying you.

Good to know

2 guardians and a mesmer in a dungeon that highly promotes projectiles reflections, good job indeed!

Wethospu.6437:

You don’t want to kite Mossman too much or he spends a lot of time stealthed. When he uses Blazing Axe (like dagger but more damage and also does Bleeding!) he gets weird effect on him (like roots or something?). He tries to get close to his target for teleport + Gouge. If he fails to do this after like 10 seconds he will stealth instead.
And then he usually re-stealths right after that.

Aye, that’s why you need an anchor. And every decent and self-respecting group uses him.

PinCushion.7390:

So basically it’s for ganking people while they’re fighting someone else?

Wait for them to hit 70%, then unload and run away?

Exactly. It’s gimmicky and broken build, unlike meta build.

innocent ouarior.1954:

Ditto, besides you dont really want Berzerker because its bad

So what is not bad?

laharl.8435:

Is there an exploit involved in the Simin solo? I’m surprised one person can run the sparks fast enough and muster the dps needed. I believe Dub when he says he did, but I would like to see a video.

For quite some time running sparks isn’t so strict, you could probably walk instead of run and still manage to do it. Her healing rate is almost non existant now.

CuRtoKy.8576:

This LightningBlaze dude posting in elementalist threads claiming this godly glass/dmg build he uses. Yet he has no videos or anything to show proof of it.

Exactly, fraps or it didn’t happen.

Every top level (spvp and WvW) ele has a guide, build, or videos to prove their skills.

Are you sure?

immortal.7569:

im not using pure of voice though, and i should have thought of a better title for the thread because its not dps focused.

What I meant was that if you went balanced dps/support route which is something like 0/30/0/30/10 you wouldn’t need soldier’s rune.

You dont need 3 dps specced people since Weth, me and a random guy 3manned her before her healing nerf. And that was from 50% to 0%. Unless you of course assume that other 2 people do literally 0 damage.

That’s hardly balanced dps build. If you want balanced dps builds, forget about valor. 0-30-0-30-10 is as much balanced as you can get. Another thing, pure of voice and soldier’s rune is an overkill, not to mention absolute resolution. You have too many conds removal.

After nerfs you don’t need any specific party composition excluding extremes like 5 condy damage dealers. Most people actually did it probably after update that removed ability to damage her through her stealth (which was way back in december) so I don’t really understand you “Post update only” stance here. Either you got a rare bug that makes her going into stealth after 10s (happened once or twice during my runs) or your team was simply bad.

Zenith.7301:

It won’t be 3 DPS guardians. More likely ele than guardians, but the likelihood is you’ll find a couple of thor eles coming in.

And you’ll still have thieves if only because they are godly for fractals with shadow refuge, projectile destruction, and Dagger Storm for grawl shaman.

Ele dps is much lower than guardian except that gimmicky lightning hammer but it doesn’t have any utility.

RyuDragnier.9476:

From what I can tell, most Rangers are fully aware of the meta, and almost every run I have with one (I always ask for people experienced in the dungeon) has them doing what they’re supposed to, with little to no problems. If you’re running into problems with them, you’re probably not asking for players experienced in the dungeon, as almost every single person I run into on dungeon runs nowadays who meets that criteria is on an alt of some kind.

And what exactly are they doing?

qewqew.6591:

even if it did 1 dmg it contributed… use your brain and they of course can do much more than that. pet is part of rangers. perma stow means you will be playing inefficiently. how bout you just make another class and gtfo of ranger forum

Do 1 damage and heal the boss for tens of thousands. Contribution worthy of mention.

Skady.5916:

Is Wethospu playing anymore? I liked that guys and his videos, was really fun!

This guy is just an arrogant jerk hating ranger profession left and right – his comments are full of negativity and hatred…
Not sure why you guys helping him and even talking to him

IMHO we should let him sit under his bridge

There’s a good reason why almost everyone hates that proffesion. It mostly comes to the ignorance of wrongbow spammers sitting in the back doing absolutely nothing. But hey, your pet is contributing!

Tsarbomba.9180:

I’m just saying, don’t ask for harder content when you can’t beat what’s already there. The reason they put the AR barrier so to speak there is to control advancement. And as for the dungeons, I must not be a person as I do the dungeons for the rewards, and I do find them at the perfect level of challenge. I’m sorry if you don’t. A lot of people say they can face roll across their keyboard and beat some dungeons. Well, the only thing I got from trying this face rolling technique was a downed stated and keyboard dust in my eyes, so either I was face rolling wrong, or the dungeons are at an adequate level where all have a chance to beat it and not be reserved for the mighty few.

You just repeated your previous faulty statement. There is currently no harder content than fotm 48 and arguably arah.

RyuDragnier.9476:

I’m seeing a lack in logic here. You seem to be hating for the sake of bandwagon hating. I bet you’re somebody who also thinks that engineers aren’t good in dungeon.

Engies are great for Arah3 kiting part.

RyuDragnier.9476:

I wonder if you’ve partied with any good rangers at all, Dub.

We all have partied with awesome tanking rangers.

Duke Blackrose.4981:

Quite a few actually, especially dungeon bosses, skale, etc.. And why assume everything is about PvE? It’s not like PvE requires specific theorycrafting.

And I think a facepalm was warranted. I shouldn’t have to re-explain a simple concept.

Which dungeons bosses? And skales? Do you understand the difference between passive regen and healing burst? What next? Destroyers are immune to burning, do you see people debating on that?

I assume it’s about PvE because it says so in thread title. Reading thread title usually helps with constructing proper arguments. Right now I should do at least 2 /facepalms.

It’s not like zvz requires specific theorycrafting as well.

RyuDragnier.9476:

So you’re saying you can’t move while attacking, that you can only attack while standing still?

The only boss I care about, yes. You can’t move if you want to kill him faster. Also, please explain how exactly can you get an exclusive aggro?

Duke Blackrose.4981:

Facepalm.

A 20% damage increase vs. foes under 33% health is only equal to a 6.67% overall damage increase if all other factors are removed and the situation is that of an Elementalist as the sole source of damage against his target. No opposing heals. No allied sources of damage. Nothing. Any other factors will either increase or decrease the overall damage percentage increase of the trait.

And a 20% vs. low health foes makes the Elementalist a good class for finishing foes off – a 6.67% flat increase vs. all foes would make the Elementalist mediocre during an entire fight rather than excellent towards its conclusion.

How many mobs can heal themselves? Try to read thread title before throwing facepalms, it makes you look less ignorant.

On the contrary, it’s too much defense already.

RyuDragnier.9476:

If you’re tanking, you’re holding all the aggro. Which means the other players don’t have to worry too much about being hit, and don’t have to evade as much, meaning the DPS is constant and fast. Think about it, if you have 2 Warriors, an ele, a thief, and a ranger, and the ranger is holding all the aggro regardless of the others do, is there really a drop in how fast the boss is dying?

Hm, in my version of GW2, most mobs have cleave or AoE attacks.

Duke Blackrose.4981:

A 20% damage increase vs. foes under 33% health is not a 6.67% overall damage increase. It is exactly what it says on the tin – a 20% damage increase against foes below 33% health. As in, it provides you with a huge chunk of extra burst against low health foes, as well as helping you to finish off your target. It implies a change in playstyle as well as becoming that “6.67% increase in damage” if you were to remove all other factors and box the Ele into a prolonged duel.

What are you trying to say? What duels? Please explain.

hippocrytehyppo.3506:

unfortunately yes the good rangers are few in number, but im glad i know what im doing with this class for once haha, but yes a good ranger can dodge like crazy and hit like a machine, using piercing arrows you hit through enemies a lot, for dodges use sb skill 3 normal dodges then lightning reflexes, then it regens so you can dodge again then sb is active again, rinse lather repeat, take almost no damage!

And deal no damage!

hippocrytehyppo.3506:

Okay, so i am a pretty good ranger for my server, i am also a commander on it. I also fare well in dungeons, if you take the time with your ranger it pays off, i suggest searching builds and going with what suits you best. As far as for dungeons and stuff i am in a pretty big guild and a higher up as well so i usually get people that will tag along relatively quickly, i suggest joining a big guild our trying to find a dungeon group, because honestly between my warrior and my ranger, im picking ranger every time. ( i beat a warrior and a guardian in 1v1 duels in wvw only class i cant beat is necro at the moment ) so if you like your ranger Keep with it youll be fine

Duels in zvz have how much exactly in common with dungeons?

Nike Porphyrogenita.8137:

Have any more thinly veiled insults you want to add in?

Do you know good engineer or elementalist dps build that doesn’t revolve around spamming autoattacks?

I honestly have no idea what are you talking about but judging from your response I take it you were running improper guardian builds. What I was refering to, was a quantity of discussions I had about dps builds on these forums when almost no one had agreed that valor was useless. Nowadays, I’m seeing an increasing amount of 10+X/25+X/0/X/X builds on guardian subforum.

Dadnir.5038:

Dub, I’ve done Arah countless time. Usually with my ranger. My best pet combinaison for lupi is cat/drake. And as I already said, the only phase I ever saw one of them dying is phase 2 (and that’s because i was careless).

If you keep aggro your pet will naturally attack from the rear and won’t take the big punch. As for me, here is how I classify pet :

Bear/spider : strong against condition, weak against Big hit
Dog/drake : average tank can whistand a good amout of condition and medium hits
Devourer : Really strong against big hitter, weak against condition
Moa : support pet
cats/birds : dps pet

A ranger who want to fight something like lupicus seeing is pet as an hindrance is like a warrior going at it saying “I won’t use any weapon! I’ll kill it with my banner!”. You clearly underestimate the ranger pet or your bad at using it. F1, F2, F3 and F4 aren’t here just for show.

F1 : No CD attack order
F3 (No CD) + lightning reflexe/hornet sting : your pet will follow you immediatly.
F4 : switch pet (the more you have point in BM the shorter the CD)

Plus, in good hand, the ranger is already a dodge beast. You don’t need a large amount of vigor. And no! Keeping your pet alive is something really easy when you are used to play with your pet. It’s even easyer now that they boost their healthpool.

Countless time in a group. That doesn’t apply here at all. You or your pet never had full attention of that little guy. Since your pet can’t really dodge his 2 life drain skills in phase 3 it’s best to leave him dead, otherwise it’s a phenomenon I like to call “negative dps” occuring mostly with ranger proffesion.

Indeed. It’s also nice to see that people started to use proper dps builds for guardians as well. Still waiting for classes like engineer, ranger, necro and elementalist.

Rising Dusk.2408:

I’m surprised they don’t just make his projectiles unblockable like trebuchets and so forth. His fight would be so much more fun if you couldn’t completely mitigate his biggest attacks.

Better unreflectable. Unblockable attack on that scale wouldn’t be great idea, especially with current inability to draw every circle.

Himei.5379:

TA 2/3 Oak bosses. Party usually wants to range, makes it slow and boring but gotta go with what the majority of the party wants, not to be an kitten .

SE Path 3, also gotta do what he majority of the party wants. I personally rather LoS him in the corner because it’s much faster BUT most PUGs I joined wanted to range him from top of platform.

CoE path 3, most wants the ranger to SB/LB him when his shield is down, since it saves time to run to him and back up. Again, slow and boring.

Only TA Fw/Up final boss is kinda broken for melee since you’d probably have to clear room full of spiders. Don’t really know how people do it thesedays since I’m always swapping to low level char.

Rest are definitely more profitable in melee.

Dub.1273:

Are you sure those dont bounce? Because even if their destination is far away they seem to land directlu under him sometimes. But maybe those are other projectiles whichs destination simply isnt drawn.

Wethospu tested it thoroughly.