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I didn’t say “anything” about me don’t invite low level people.
And if you think the stats difference is minimal please post the stats of a maxed charcter and the stas of a level 35 character inside AC. And I’ll admit I’m wrong.
I do not have the chara slot for the experiment (I only have one chara of each class) and all of my money is tied up in gearing my alts and my legendary hunt, so unfortunately I cannot do this for you.
You may want to read this news post by the lead GW2 designer about dynamic level adjustment so you can see where my point is coming from.
ya I think I’m wrong. I didn’t keep up with the update. I know the stats difference is huge before. It’s probably not much after the last patch.
If anyone have a level35 fill free to post the stats. I’m sure some level80 can check the difference.
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ya I’m probably wrong since there is an update on Jan 28. But I think previously before the update the difference is something like 50% more power, 2 times mroe toughness and defense, 3 times more crit.
Someone need to redo the stats and check it. I really don’t know. if someone have a level35 they can post their stats and some level80 can check it.
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I’m not even bothered by that. My problem with condition build is you don’t do any damage to structure.
I didn’t say “anything” about me don’t invite low level people.
And if you think the stats difference is minimal please post the stats of a maxed charcter and the stas of a level 35 character inside AC. And I’ll admit I’m wrong.
You are indeed leeching because they could invite a person who is both skilled and have max stats.
And judging by your comment saying “they will do a bit less damage”, I can honestly say you must not be very experienced and skilled else you’ll know the difference is actaully quite huge.
If this is truly what you believe, then you are exactly the type of elitist that is being spoken of in this thread.
You can honestly say whatever you want , but without actually seeing how I play you know nothing of how good I am and cannot say truthfully as you do not know the truth. And this is the point I am trying to make.
I’m sorry and I appologize and I shouldn’t use the word “must”. I should say you “probably” isn’t very experienced.
And it doesn’t matter if you are some pro or not. So you did ac 100 times, but so is the other guy who does ac 100 times and have max stats. So he’ll outperform you for sure.
And what are you saying? People shouldn’t invite a low level with no achievement point? You keep talking about being skilled and low level… does that mean people shouldn’t invite people who suck? In that case, you are just like everyone else.
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And judging by your comment saying “they will do a bit less damage”, I can honestly say you must not be very experienced and skilled else you’ll know the difference is actaully quite huge.
Is this coming from someone who actually did the dungeons to level up? Or from someone that tried AC exp once at lvl 35, deemed it hard and waited till lvl 80 to try again?
I didn’t say anything about ac being too difficult. People can solo ac for crying out loud, I’m sure 5 level35 can handle it.
All I’m saying is there is a stats different between a level35 and level80, and the difference is actually quite large.
And to the previous person if you don’t know there is a stats difference and the stats difference is actually quite large, it makes me think you arn’t very experienced.
Now ac isn’t rocket science. So just because you are very skilled you are still doing less than those who are both skilled and experienced.
And I never said anything about me personally being an elitiest. I don’t even do AC anymore. I’m just saying people are being hypocrite if they dont’ think a random "level80 “have higher chance” to outperform a random “level35”.
For sure a level35 on their 6th alt will outperform a level80 inexperienced player. But when you talk about on average, if you can’t agree with that you are just being a hypocrite.
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But the thing is – if they’re skilled, they will do more on their lvl 80-s then on their low levels. If they’re not skilled they’ll have more margin of error on lvl 80 in full exotics.
It’s very simple logic.
Why would I want to run a dungeon with person who deliberately hinders himself?
Changing to alt on the last boss is a legit way to level alts. Leaching as a low level in lvl 80 party is not.
Running a sub-80 is not leeching if the chara actually contributes. I can guarantee that a good player will speed things up far more than if there was a group of 4 instead. Leeching is doing nothing.
Yes, they will do a bit less damage/support, but the difference will be quite small outside of speedruns.
You are indeed leeching because they could invite a person who is both skilled and have max stats.
And judging by your comment saying “they will do a bit less damage”, I can honestly say you must not be very experienced and skilled else you’ll know the difference is actaully quite huge.
Think the title says it all pretty much but seems like every party only looks for lvl 80’s these days. It’s not because you have a full lvl 80 party that the dungeon is going to be easier. Personally I believe skill > character level. Really don’t understand why people want level 80’s only, anyone care to explain?
I could say the same thing about you. “elitist experienced people only”. Lowbies are allowed but only if it is an alt.
But the answer is simple. They want “maxed leveled, maxed geared, experienced player”. Since there is no real way to check if a person is experience or not they can only check their level and gear.
@OP
You must be a Super Casual.Because this game isn’t for Hardcore players, it’s definitely catered towards the average casual player.
The ascended gear was never aimed at casuals. Since it’s introduction the game’s dev-intended gameplay has been shifting more and more towards top tier gear acquisition. As an effect, it’s direction is shifting slowly away from casuals towards the grinders.
Like I said before, you must be super casual if you can’t do your daily. “very super casual”.
yes it takes time. 1 month per. But you just need to spend a little time a day logging on and do your daily.
Lot of casuals i know (the “average” kind) play like 6-8 hours per week. Most of that time they spend on weekends. Even people that play 3+ hours/day on average (which is definitely not casual anymore) can have days (or whole weeks) where they don’t play at all.
Additionally, casuals just play for fun. They don’t follow little checkboxes. Just logging every day, and doing all dailies is not exactly very casual gameplay.
What? you didn’t do aquatic and crafting, because you were just doing hearts for 2 hours? Too bad! you fail! You are too casual for this game!
That’s what don’t make sense. If you are indeed casual and just play for fun, you won’t care about those so slightly stats difference.
And if you care so much, you don’t bother to spend 10 second crafting copper bar or 3 minutes killing aquatic monsters?
You are not casual. You just want things easy. Which is nothing wrong with that. As a player/customer you have the right to complain.
But people STILL don’t have to log in and do the daily, because the content isn’t gated by having ascended gear. The only thing you need ascended gear for is the fractals, and if you’re going up to the higher levels of the fractals, you’re probably not casual.
The fractals were designed for hard core competitive players, to give them something to bang their heads against. A casual player can start at level 1 and see everything without a single piece of ascended gear. I can.
I’ve done every dungeon in the game, in explorable mode as well, without ascended gear. I WvW, successfully, without ascended gear. And it doesn’t affect SPvP at all.
If you’re a casual player you have no need for ascended gear and frankly, you don’t really even need exotic gear.
That said, exotic gear isn’t that hard to get.
It’s not that they need it. It’s that they think they should have the best gear in the game eventhough they are casual, or don’t play as much. Or they don’t want to enter wvw and thinking the other guy have a slight advantage over them.
And fractal dont’ have to require ascended gear. Anet could just design it as require exotic gear sloted with agony resist. Ascended gear have better stats. That’s why other casual players are complaining.
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@OP
You must be a Super Casual.Because this game isn’t for Hardcore players, it’s definitely catered towards the average casual player.
The ascended gear was never aimed at casuals. Since it’s introduction the game’s dev-intended gameplay has been shifting more and more towards top tier gear acquisition. As an effect, it’s direction is shifting slowly away from casuals towards the grinders.
Like I said before, you must be super casual if you can’t do your daily. “very super casual”.
yes it takes time. 1 month per. But you just need to spend a little time a day logging on and do your daily.
‘’Eiposu no Tenshi.5079’’
‘’If it’s taking you ~7hrs to complete a daily, it’s clearly a lack of time management on your part. The “average casual player” thread which I’ve seen posted every now and then will raise the issue that they have no other small achievements or goals to work towards after completing their daily in ~30mins of gameplay.’’
’’Mmmk so “My time management” when i play gw2 :
1-login
2-Go to Eb
3-look for good fights
4-fight ( step 3 )
5-logoutWhat is wrong?
nothing is wrong.
I think what they should do is make a list of 12 dailys and players only have to do maybe 4 of it.
for example:
1) kill 10 players
2) capture 3 structures
3) dodge 10 attacks
4) revive 5 times
5) visit 5 enemy camps
6) kill 10 types of monster
7) aquatic killer
8) gather 20 items
9) craft 10 items
10) do 5 event
11) construct 3 siege item
12) do 1 dungeon or fractal
something like that would work. or better yet. allow us to complete the same daily multiple times. for example if the daily says complete 5 event, and I can just do that particular daily 4 times, ie 20 events. I’ve done my daily
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The only thing that’s even remotely anti-casual is laurels. While laurels are intended to be a reward for showing up and playing daily, it’s always going to feel like a penalty to those who can’t play that often.
Everything else about the game is mega-casual.
Laurels are actually anti-hardcore.
Because no matter how much you play the game, you can only get so many laurels.
Play for 1 hour a day or 10 hours a day, same reward.
But like some other people mentioned not everyone can play everyday. And some people felt they have to go “out of the way” do do daily.
I think changing daily to weekly would solve that problem. And Anet promise that we can choose daily next month, that’ll help.
THat’s why I say you guys must be very casual. All you need to do is goof around for 30 minutes a day and wait 2 month and you can get your ring already.
But you are casual yet a serious gamer. those 2-3% stats difference(since there is only 3 piece ascended released) must be very serious if it make that much of a different in pve and pvp for you.
Umm….. I play for 3-4hrs a day and in 2.5mo’s I’ve gotten the daily only a hand full of times. Granted the daily was rarely my ‘focus’ but in most cases I simply ran out of time, The way the game is setup there are some items that might take days/weeks/months/quarters to get, all depending on how much time/skill you can play it.
Ya I understand. Basically people actually have to do the daily that’s the problem.
People can’t just log on and do anything they want. That’s a problem. They have to actaully try to do the daily. Since daily only take 30 minutes. But in your case you have 2.5 hours a day yet you dont’ want to do the daily but other things. I understand.
maybe they should change daily to weekly and reward 7 laurel for it. Some people can’t play 30 minutes a day every day. But they may be able to play acouple hours a week.
you can get the ring by just doing the daily. That isn’t bad. Back item is probabaly the harder one.
You still need 30 laurels for ONE amulet and 35 laurels PER ring.
That’s effectively 60 days of dailies plus the two monthlies to get 3 pieces of Ascended gear (for one character.)
Coming from GW1, it seems absurd to play the game for 2 months to gear a SINGLE character with 3 max-stat pieces.
In GW1 Factions and Nightfall, you can make it to max level within a month easily. And by that point, you should have enough platinum to buy a full set of max-stat gear.
THat’s why I say you guys must be very casual. All you need to do is goof around for 30 minutes a day and wait 2 month and you can get your ring already.
But you are casual yet a serious gamer. those 2-3% stats difference(since there is only 3 piece ascended released) must be very serious if it make that much of a different in pve and pvp for you.
you can get the ring by just doing the daily. That isn’t bad. Back item is probabaly the harder one.
You guys must be very casual if you can’t even spend 30 minutes to do your daily.
Or spend 10 hours farming for a full set of exotic gear.
I dont’ even know how you guys even reach level80 if you are that casual.
I remember getting my first level80. I was in full exotic armor and weapon 1 day after it.
So I’m not sure why people are telling me other game is easier. Even the ascended ring I can get in 3 days just playing a few alt.
you can buy gems sell that for gold and use crafting to maximize your character. Still take a good 3 hours maybe, but that is kind of like buying gems to maximize your character.
I tried dagger, can’t find p/v/t dagger on TP.
I think wvw and dungeon(AC, HOTW, SE) is the only way. AC is probably the easist way to get it. I see many people running around with ghostly weapon.
You might be able to get P/V/T from the mystic forge, but that’s very expensive usually.
Then the obvious solution is to make every already existing ascended item (and the future ones, as soon as they get introduced) accessible not only in fractals, but in any other form of gameplay – laurels, dungeon token vendors, crafting, event chests, WvW vendors, karma vendors, TP.
All at once, and as soon as possible. Without waiting few more months between introducing one method, and without limiting some pieces to one type of acquisition only.
Because they don’t have the new content ready to accompany those new gear. And they dont’ want people to get full ascended so fast that they think they are done with the game.
Not only that, they don’t want to tell people “sorry that you did AC 30 times for your exotic, now do it 300 more times for your full ascended” Or telling people they need to spend 100 gold per piece to craft ascended item.
They rather release everything bit by bit, so it’s not as grindy, but people won’t get it immediately and think they are done with the game.
Right, back to first post again: The point is not that it takes too long. It’s that it’s impossible to get ascended amulet from fractals.
and you don’t do your daily? don’t lie. pretty much everyone bother with fotm bother doing their daily.
That’s the point right? Everyone get amulet, it just take time.
I think doing ac exp is the easeist way. I see many people running around with ac weapon since it is a easy dungeon and many people level through it.
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ya I mean what are you goign to do after you buy your amulet with pristine relics? keep complaining?
No. I get on to playing my fractals as developers originally intended. And patiently wait for new fractals to be released. Unlike some people, I actually play the game for fun.
Ok you don’t need to insult me. the “unlike some people part”.
Since you can patiently wait for new fractals to be release, you can patiently wait for your amulet too, and you can patiently progress through fotm level80. I think it’s common sense agony is just a mechanism to stop people from reaching fractal level80 and think they are done with the game.
And I do hope they make pristine relic tradable for amulet too. 20 pristine relic is like lol, I can do that in 5 days. I just need to get my 3rd and 4th alt to fotm10. I’m sure it’s even eaiser for other people at high level fotm since they can do multiple daily with multiple alt.
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The biggest problem is that once you have the rings you want from FotM, every char is decked out with 20 slot bags and you finally get the Fractal weapon skin you want, there is no more point to doing Fractals at all anymore unless you hate your bank having any available room in it.
The only reason I continue doing FotM is because I want the Fractal GS but my bank cant hold much more, I have 5000+ Fractal Relics and 45 Pristine Fractal Relics and nothing to get with them so all they are doing is eating up an entire bank slot almost along with the bank slots holding my 34 rings that cant be sold, mystic forged or salvaged.
There should be a few changes in my opinion, we should be able to upgrade relics to pristine relics, we should be able to buy ascended gear with pristine relics and we should be able to do SOMETHING with all these rings.
Rings were made available through Laurels because people complained that they wanted to be able to get them if they didn’t want to play FotM, and I think its great that they gave people that option but ascended gear is the only way to get higher AR to be able to progress higher in FotM so it only makes sense to be able to acquire that gear through doing FotM.
I do enjoy doing FotM, I do a 26 or 28 daily and a 30-36 daily as often as I can but after I get my GS my bank can’t handle it anymore and I will have to stop doing them and that sucks.
For those that will inevitably give me ideas on what to spend relics on, I have all my mats for a legendary already so have no need for shards or skill points, I have 3 ascended back pieces and every char I have is decked out with 20 slot bags so I am just stuck pileing up all these relics.
ya I mean what are you goign to do after you buy your amulet with pristine relics? keep complaining?
That’s precisely why developer don’t hand out everything at once and only slowly release things to keep people interested.
Everything you said is valid, I’m just saying if you are in the developer’s shoes, you’d do the same thing. I agree with pretty much everything people complain. But on the other hand I do understand why the game developer do what they do.
People complain about gear tredemille, on the other hand people also complain about not having things to do.
I always remember my first character, I got full exotic get my world completion and I asked myself then what?
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10 badge of honor/ring is fair
Well, considering the Exotic Invader’s Ring costs 396 Badges of Honor, I’d say fat chance at that exchange rate.
If it were to ever happen, try 500-650, or possibly even more.
Yeah but invaders gear is so far overpriced its not funny. Its like anet didn’t what the average badge drop would be and I guess they’re afraid of lowering the price now because some (a minority) would cry foul.
Ya I mean I just spend 90 minutes and do AC run, I already have a piece. Those invader gear sure are expensive.
And to the OP, I’m not sure what you mean by the first post. If you mean the gear tredemile, people are alerady speaking up. You just need to visit the other post with 300 reply.
Everything you are complaining and mostly everything being complaint here is covered by other post too. Ascended gear being alt unfriendly. Non fractal runner have to wait 2 month for rings and can’t get their back piece. People with decks of pristine relics and stash of ascended rings find no use…. etc etc, people already have speak up in other post.
And yes, people are complaining about high level fotm and jade maw being undoable because of agony.
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good for you. Tell it to the other people who complain the only place to get any money or reward is in fotm.
and you already should get your ascended amulet tomorrow right? so I don’t know why you are complaining.
Only people who have never set foot in fotm would say that’s the only place to get money or reward. (Hello? CoF 1?) Their opinions are uninformed and irrelevant.
There’s at least a few more days until the first amulets can be bought, and that’s for only one character. For anyone who has more than one character, this will take about half a year. And this is only for one slot. In that same timeframe more slots will have been released. Thereby creating the gear-treadmill that none but a select few can keep up with.
shh, anet going to nerf cof1 lol. ya I think that’s the problem with the game. fotm, cof1, than what?
I felt bad I have 1200 playing hours with no legendary and another guy with 1000 hours already have 2. My playstyle is basically not rewarded.
Nah you can already get your ascended tomorrow. Do your monthly. And I understand your complaint. But so is those that wvw and wonder why they not only have to wait for their amulet but ring too. Your complaint is not particularly a fotm problem, it’s the same for everyone.
and I don’t really care if anet allow fractal runner to buy amulet. I’m just saying that’s why anet didn’t alllow fractal runner to buy amulet. Because they do get complain from those wvw player or people who dont’ like to do dungeons.
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Well if they would you would have ppl crying about fractal becoming the end all be all. I mean realty coming in here and saying that ppl eat there words on views they do not have that has NOTHING to do with what ppl are talking about.
Any way we truly have no idea what going to happen in the next few months or even this coming up month i suggest holding on to every thing until then things may changes if not the system as is painfully easy to get items it just takes some amount of time. If you just wanted things handed to you then mmorpgs are not for you your better off playing an fps where every thing is unlocked day one and you quit playing it day 2.
Way to read nothing then display pure stupidity by speaking up.
I never said progression needs to be removed. I said fractals REQUIRE ascended items, so I should be able to acquire ascended items through the fractal currency.
I guess i miss read it i am just trying to point out that its new and things take time. If you put these items on fractal you will see ppl out cry saying fractal is the only end game that worth any thing and in there view do not wish to be made to do it.
I’m only asking for the amulets. There are many other unique rewards you can get with laurels that has nothing to do with ascended items.
I think that’s the point. Fractal is already rewarding enough. You are kind of saying the only thing rewarding to do is daily and fotm.
People always complain there is nothing to do with their deck of pristine relics and stash of ascended ring…. but look at it this way, if you already have so much of it, and you still do it everyday. It is already rewarded enough that you still do it everyday.
and most fractal runners still do dailys, I can’t say its the same the other way around.
I don’t care about being rewarded enough. And I think a lot of the fractal runners are indeed only playing for the sake of playing. The so called rewards are just there to allow you to pass the gear check. I care that I cannot finish lv 40+ without exploits. The farmers can get their DPS numbers however big and that’s none of my business.
good for you. Tell it to the other people who complain the only place to get any money or reward is in fotm.
and you already should get your ascended amulet tomorrow right? so I don’t know why you are complaining.
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Well if they would you would have ppl crying about fractal becoming the end all be all. I mean realty coming in here and saying that ppl eat there words on views they do not have that has NOTHING to do with what ppl are talking about.
Any way we truly have no idea what going to happen in the next few months or even this coming up month i suggest holding on to every thing until then things may changes if not the system as is painfully easy to get items it just takes some amount of time. If you just wanted things handed to you then mmorpgs are not for you your better off playing an fps where every thing is unlocked day one and you quit playing it day 2.
Way to read nothing then display pure stupidity by speaking up.
I never said progression needs to be removed. I said fractals REQUIRE ascended items, so I should be able to acquire ascended items through the fractal currency.
I guess i miss read it i am just trying to point out that its new and things take time. If you put these items on fractal you will see ppl out cry saying fractal is the only end game that worth any thing and in there view do not wish to be made to do it.
I’m only asking for the amulets. There are many other unique rewards you can get with laurels that has nothing to do with ascended items.
I think that’s the point. Fractal is already rewarding enough. You are kind of saying the only thing rewarding to do is daily and fotm.
People always complain there is nothing to do with their deck of pristine relics and stash of ascended ring…. but look at it this way, if you already have so much of it, and you still do it everyday. It is already rewarded enough that you still do it everyday.
and most fractal runners still do dailys, I can’t say its the same the other way around.
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I hardly ever seen any elitist in those “no requirement” group.
If people just stop joining those group that ask for requirement, there won’t be a problem.
The problem is casual or newbie are just like the elitist. They rather get carried by elitist group.
If the boss was healing, it has nothing to with dps. None at all. The bucket-guy was early/late.
Ya, that’s the main problem. The bucket guy did missed a bunch of it. But I think if my dps isn’t so lackster I might be able to make up for it.
Not that I think condition necro do bad damage. Just that I’m not sure condition damage got boosted from the boss having lava pulled over him. Since it appears my dot is still ticking for very small damage.
And thanks for Sovta to tell me to use boon removal, I’m not sure what that is, but I’ll give it a try next time.
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Can someone teach me how to kill the controller in cof path 1 really fast without getting killed?
I know to use endure pain, frenzy than hundred blade, but any other tips?
I understand. Problem I have is my condition necro have no power and direct damage.
So in certain situation, where you need direct damage, “structure or last boss of drege fractal”, my necro isn’t doing any damage.
I had to leave a pug for a better dps last night for the reason. My group arn’t doing well and the last boss of dredge fractal keep healing. In the end, I accept I’m part of the problem and leave for a better dps.
If I known I can switch character mid fractal, I’d go to my warrior.
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Can I do fotm and switch midway to another character?
I saw someone with a berserker rare backpiece linking in chat before. I’m wondering where to get it. And if it is buyable from trading post, and if it is what’s the name of it so I can search.
So after painfully gearing my self in rabid gear as a conditionmancer I realized something….
I do no dmg to structure. And many dungeon do require killing structure things, such as burrow in ac and cof, icicle boss in ice fractal, and last boss of dredge fractal(eventhough not a structure but only direct dmg is powered by lava).
So how should I go about fixing it? Carry another set of power gear? Or just go power build directly?
In short, gear proves nothing, and is usually used to unfairly decide who are the “really good players.”
Gear dont’ prove anything?
It proves you are wearing crafted gear.
It proves you are wearing exotic gear.
It proves you may or may not have done dungeon.
And having infused ring means you have done at least fotm 10.
No you can’t tell if a low level is an alt or not but if you see someone low level with no achievement ponit you know chances are he most likely isn’t experienced.
I never say I looked at draconic gear and I say you are a newbie. I’ll say you are wearing crafted gear and you may or may not be dungeon newbie.
Please stop the silly argument.
And you know what? People are generally selfish. The elitist is selfish because they dont’ want to include others who slow them down. And many people dont’ look at themself and think maybe they are slowing the group down. Either way I just see many selfish people.
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ANet promotes this as a skill-based game, so equipment has little to do with it.
The final and concluding answer is no.
Actually most of the times equipment does show people are more skilled because they are more experienced.
If I see a person with full dungeon set, I know they are experienced. They may still be bad but the chance are much lower.
I mean, I just did a fotm10, and wipe after wipe we finally reached jade maw. And I finally realize why the group wipe so much because not a single person have any agony except of me. I think one of them never even did any fractal before because we are always waiting for him during the cliffside fractals. If I join a group with agony requirement this will never happen.
Anyway, I should find other thing to do. I really don’t care if there is gear inspection. I just think many of things people said don’t make sense.
P.S.: Dishonest people with Magic Find gear would just wait until they’re inside and have a moment, then quickly change their “good” gear to the MF set. Gear Inspection won’t solve that problem.
That don’t even make sense. People can swap now because there’s no gear inspection. If there is gear inspection you know who is swapping since you can check them mid dungeon.
Which is around when you can start to figure out who’s lied about their gear right now, without inspect. Right?
If you plan to spend all your time checking gear to make sure nobody’s switching on you, then odds are good you’ll be the one dragging the party down because you’re so distracted. People WILL do this, sane or not. If most people do a check 5 minutes in, then they’ll learn to wait a bit longer before switching gear to still get what they can out of it.
Blegh, it’s late. Sorry if I’m not wording this right. Sleepy time.
Quite honestly, I’ll check people’s gear often not because I care if they are swapping but because I’m bored(for cosmetic or build). You think right clicking someone’s portrait and look at their gear take more than 5 second? And most dungeon runs do have many downtimes waiting for people.
I don’t think people will risk getting kicked because most of the reward for dungeon is in the end.
I dont’ think what you said make too much sense, but I’m not you. Maybe what you said make sense to you and other people.
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P.S.: Dishonest people with Magic Find gear would just wait until they’re inside and have a moment, then quickly change their “good” gear to the MF set. Gear Inspection won’t solve that problem.
That don’t even make sense. People can swap now because there’s no gear inspection. If there is gear inspection you know who is swapping since you can check them mid dungeon.
raid is ok. I actually hope they have raid in this game.
but what’s not ok is you advertised this game as no raid “or dev says they not going to have one and add in later”
But I hope they break that promise and add one …
Wouldn’t the other people in group had to pass the “gear check” and be in full agreement with the conditions? If they were in disagreement they could simply reform the group with the odd geared person. Why should the right of one person to play the way they want be more important that the same right of 4 other people?
As said above you can already ask people to ping their gear so inspect isn’t needed.
Inspect achieves nothing that can’t be done already on this aspect, all it adds is the ability to spy gear of people without their consent.Lately we’ve gotten so many features from WoW that I think we’re fine with not picking anymore from that game in a good while, including things like gear spying.
ya but let me try to understand this… Unless it is for pvp, why do you care if people look at your gear?
I mean is your build such a big secret or something? Unless you are worried elitist might exclude you because your gear arn’t optimal(which I understand, it happened to me before)
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Every time I see this debate (first time was around 2 years before GW2 launched) it seems to be relatively split down the middle between those who want it and those who don’t.
There’s really one thing that makes me think it shouldn’t be in.
If 50% want it and 50% don’t then 50% are unhappy. There are workarounds for those who want an inspect feature but don’t have it. There is no workaround for those who don’t want it if there is an inspect feature.
Seems to me that not having an inspect feature is the most fair solution.
Ya I really don’t think gear inspection is a good idea. For AR you can ask people to ping your gear.
The problem is you might get some new guy who just reach level80 wearing rares trying to get exotic but just can’t seem to get a group, since no one want them.
But I do think they should do something about mf. Not necessary to allow people to inspect mf but make mf group wide so people actually welcome mf instead of hate it. But I don’t know if it’ll make it worse. There might be elitist mf group and mf group only.
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There is a player cap for guild. So if you are not representing, it could be used by another who is representing so there is more active guildchat and influence gain.
If you play like 10 hours a day and represent them for 5 hours each, I’m sure they dont’ mind. Else that spot is better given to someone else.
It’s different, you want others to play the way you want.
You want to check their gear/spec to see if they are playing your way, and GW2 does not support that kind of mentality.You know what? Just ask people to ping their gear.
Inspect is already in, it’s just a 2-way thing now as it should be.
That’s untrue, they want you to be yourself and just not invite you to their party since they want to play the way they want too.
And people sometimes ping one kind of armor and is actually using another set.
I really don’t care. But when people say “they should be allowed to play anyway they want.” The same is true that other people should allowed to invite who ever they want. It’s a two way thing. And there’s no right or wrong answer. On one side it divide the community. On the other side, you do get many slackers, and people should be allowed to not party with slackers if they choose be.
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Ya I mean, the normal bag don’t have a description says, “non exotic, non rare, non masterwork, non junk, non craft material will fill it up first before they go to other bag”.
So apparently it is how it work.
I have no idea. But you make it sound like it is a game of stock market rather than a game of doing dungeons, pvp, or hack and slash mobs.
Playing the stock market and game economy is too much work for me.
Is it only the exotic box? My rare box seemed to work fine.
Rare item are put in first, but if my other box is full, items will go inside even if it is not rare.