Guild Wars 2

Avenge.1478:

SOR BL is literally unplayable right now. Most of us are literally disconnecting left and right :/

Anet says, “Working as intended”

scootshoot.6583:

DKNS.2135:

ZD, of course everyone on BG would love for you to stay permanently but now i would love you to stay just so that your presence continues to cause IRON to QQ 24/7 over something which they themselves did 2-3 months ago. I can’t get enough of all these tears from them.

haha. You call this a QQ thread?!? This is nothing compared to what’s gonna happen in the Week 7 matchup thread. The tears will flow long and hard from 2 of the 3 servers. Can’t wait!

it will start in week 6 in whatever thread BG matchup is. The trolls will leave their home-sweet-home bridges, the QQers will have jars of tears ready to throw on the thread, and BG will already have it wrapped up.

We will also all rejoice in our Dolyak Minis.

IceVyper.6810:

No you don’t. You have to kill an enemy close to each battery. I did 2 batteries per phase and even the megalaser to make sure.

i did it that way and didn’t get credit 3 straight kills so it must be a bit buggy

You need to defend each of the turrets at DIFFERENT batteries phases. So do east on phase 1, north 2, and west 3.

signed!

Its a great fight!!

Talonblaze.3175:

mallas.9836:

So you will punish the entire map because you are in zerker gear? Glad you aren’t on my server or if you are, can’t get into the main map.

Punish? How so? My damage is the exact same if it would be PVT gear. Only difference is, I’m also more useful during defense phases. A living zerker is better than a dead PVT, hands down.

not using warbanner because you are angry at PTV people asking you to defend turrets. You do know that when you are dead you aren’t dpsing or warbannering anyways?

Talonblaze.3175:

mallas.9836:

Lazy as in we have to die and sit in tons of damage, have to zerg res, time warbanners, running decent distances and save batteries, then run back and try to do mega dps to win?

Right lazy. Its more forgiving because we decided to either build ptv (for various reasons, mine because i WvW) or have a 2nd set of gear which can literally cost you NOTHING gold wise.

It seems the zerks are lazy since they don’t want to adapt to a fight that doesn’t allow them to sit in tons of damage while spinning around going tons of damage and just having auto attack on.

You make it sound like I don’t do any of those things either. The only difference between your PVT gear is your HP pool. That’s all. In fact, if you arrange your skills properly or pay attention, you shouldn’t even go down in that fight if you have a competent team.

Goldwise, it might not cost anything, no. But karma isn’t exactly as easy to obtain as it once was either, now is it? Not to mention my karma is also being saved for more important things like my Legendary.

I adapt to the fight via my own personal skill. I don’t rely on gear to make up for my mistakes. You could do this fight entirely naked if need be and still survive. That’s how easy it is to pay attention and not get yourself killed.
I’ll remember not to use my warbanners and stuff the next time I see a ‘tough guy’ PVT though. Clearly you won’t need it. As all zerkers are good for his binding #1.

So you will punish the entire map because you are in zerker gear? Glad you aren’t on my server or if you are, can’t get into the main map.

Talonblaze.3175:

mallas.9836:

Obviously. The bleeds is stupid but so useless overall on TEq so its more laziness on ANETs part to now put that physic in.

The point is, its how it is, but zerkers don’t have the survivability thus stupid whining you can’t survive gigantic damage. Why should you be mega OP while others are then relegated to something else “not useful” as some of the posts have said.

Damage is damage, even if its minimal. At least one with bleeds can do something. Even if minimal.
“Don’t have the survivability.” Please, the entire fight is kitten. I was picking up more of these PVT baddies in my zerker gear. Your added hp and toughness don’t mean squat if you don’t pay attention or learn. Taking ‘gigantic damage’ shouldn’t be tanked, it should be avoided. I never had troubles surviving Teq on the frontlines. All it takes is some gamesense. Personal Skill > Gear when it comes to survivability.

Damage output however is entirely gear dependent.
Zerker’s themselves are not ‘mega OP’. Skilled ones are. Because they know how to play. But I see many fail just as badly because they don’t know how to adapt or learn. The only difference the Teq fight allows is for the PVT people to be a little more lazy in learning how to fight in this instance, because they have less to worry about. It’s more forgiving, thats all it is.

Lazy as in we have to die and sit in tons of damage, have to zerg res, time warbanners, running decent distances and save batteries, then run back and try to do mega dps to win?

Right lazy. Its more forgiving because we decided to either build ptv (for various reasons, mine because i WvW) or have a 2nd set of gear which can literally cost you NOTHING gold wise.

It seems the zerks are lazy since they don’t want to adapt to a fight that doesn’t allow them to sit in tons of damage while spinning around going tons of damage and just having auto attack on.

Talonblaze.3175:

mallas.9836:

you are a fly to a dragon. Are you really going to crit a dragon with a tiny sliver of metal? no.

The fix is get a second set of gear with karma. But tbh thats how games are. You are still needed in the fight thus they aren’t breaking any builds. You just can’t sit in loltons of damage.

We’re also talking about a dragon that can also suffer conditions like ‘bleed’ (its undead…) and other sorts of issues regarding the gameplay mechanics.
We’re talking about a game where you can burn fire elementals and chill ice ones. Bleed rocks and poison them too.

Why is some logic applied and the rest thrown in the garbage? I would think finding a weakspot to crit is more likely than poisoning or bleeding an undead being.

Obviously. The bleeds is stupid but so useless overall on TEq so its more laziness on ANETs part to now put that physic in.

The point is, its how it is, but zerkers don’t have the survivability thus stupid whining you can’t survive gigantic damage. Why should you be mega OP while others are then relegated to something else “not useful” as some of the posts have said.

ThiBash.5634:

Morsus.5106:

Well, Berserker builds are probably the most OP specialization in the game, so it’s nice to see the Soldiers and Knights get a chance to shine

You can’t crit, so why would Knight’s shine?

And more importantly, how’s replacing one top set with another a good thing? It’d be much nicer if you could play anything and be just as viable in terms of usefulness.

you are. Some of you expect to sit in hilarious amount of dmg while doing hilarious amount of dps. It doesn’t work that way. You can’t have best of both worlds.

So in this fight, you are defenders of turrets which are THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THE WHOLE EVENT.. kitten s.

So you are actually the biggest part of the event.

Talonblaze.3175:

mallas.9836:

you aren’t completely null. You are just null on a huge dragon. You can still murder all the mobs that spawn in the event which is extremely helpful

But that isn’t supposed to be my role. Yes, thats essentially what I’m forced to do. (even though I can survive alot more than those spamming “PVT for life, berserker is useless here!”)
Im not complaining about being good defense. But I dislike having to be pidegon holed into doing so when my role is clearly offense. But my entire tree is redundant. Much to the same grief that CC’ers have on anything above Vets.

That and its not just Teq. This goes for all the world bosses. where am I then?
Jormag? Can’t crit objects like ice spikes or him. Better to ignore the mobs.
Shatterer? Same story, only that the mobs are roflstomped if they get close to the zerg.

It’s not just Teq where this implementation is flawed, it’s every boss encounter with that mechanic.

you are a fly to a dragon. Are you really going to crit a dragon with a tiny sliver of metal? no.

The fix is get a second set of gear with karma. But tbh thats how games are. You are still needed in the fight thus they aren’t breaking any builds. You just can’t sit in loltons of damage.

daimasei.4091:

Does TS make people less stupid? And I’m doing a legit question.

Does people magically follow instructions if you tell them with your voice?

People on TS are some kind of enchanters?

Or everyone “speak” English but are unable to “read” English?

its more for calling out cleanses and stabilities and coordinating for defenses that’s all. Its not needed but it makes stuff easier.

Talonblaze.3175:

It bites the big one for sure that two of my specs are useless against them. Not including half my traitlines geared towards ‘crits’.
It’s not a good idea to completely null a stat type from being a part of a major fight, especially with Anet’s ‘we encourage different builds!’ motto, its not looking fair for those who are built to do so.

you aren’t completely null. You are just null on a huge dragon. You can still murder all the mobs that spawn in the event which is extremely helpful

Riselight.3695:

This afternoon I tried the Tequatl again, Sparkfly was full, so I had to go to an overflow. We failed and Tequatl had 85% left.
This evening I managed to get on my main server and we got the Tequatl to like 0,1% but then his timer ran out. And what is frustrating me so much is that I didn’t receive any chest from that, because I failed on a random overflow a few hours before that

so either you are complaining that you didn’t get rewards for failing OR you are saying something that i don’t understand.

Did you kill or fail?

Closer.2560:

Condition damage would like to extend a warm welcome to all berzerkers, you are a most welcome part of the “honourable order of unviable damage”. We hope you will make yourself at home and enjoy all future meetings at all major world boss events.

1. you chose to be squishy as hell

2. you are still viable and good in defense of turrets

3. Tough S

All types of builds are viable for this fight and will be for others. Honestly, being in the zerg AT teq, is very stressful (in comparison to defending). Point is you made the choice to be zerk and that means you cant not take wave damage. Thus you defend the turrets. Viable but you can’t be at teq stack.

its buggy. BG failed (mass afk) and got it at 50 ish (failed).

Biohazard.7523:

People are still standing on the same spot and killing him… Nobody is moving. His attacks are weak. Nobody is dying…
Can you upgrade him, so he can become stronger, just like you did with tequatl dragon

old news from 2012

Vol.5241:

Acerola.6407:

Hello,

Elona Reach finally beat him with about 2 minutes to spare. Tequatl is in no way “too hard” or “unbeatable”, but Arenanet … pls buff the rewards. There is no way you can justify this fight by giving us standard world boss loot + 1 gold. That’s even worse than the golem who has 2 champ boxes!

The 1 gold is just like anet telling us “here 1 gold so it’s rewarding”, but no.

CoF p1 is more rewarding than a world boss which requires at least some coordination (it’s not that much as everyone says … people only have to learn the fight still), which shouldn’t be the case imo.

We get a chance for exotic tequatl things with weird stats which can’t be seen by anyone anyway, so what the heck?

The only positive things on the loot table are the mini and the ascended weapons, but I don’t think those are something you’ll ever see. I don’t have a problem with rare drops, but come on: How about swapping the bonus rare with a 100% exotic? Would be something at least.

Apart from my QQ about the loot: This whole fight is pretty decent with some great details. Tequatl’s feets finally are a threat. For example, the hitbox is quite big on his side so I thought I’d melee him from the side and therefore avoid his waves. but teq has an answer to this: When he prepares for his wave, he moves quite a bit, knocking me down with his feets from the back! that creates a knockback combo due to the incoming wave so I was killed. I guess that’s avoidable, but kitten , it was great.

The whole fight and feeling of accomplishment is just amazing! Anet did a great job, really! It’s also a great thing to see the race of which server beats him and such. Very entertaining! Nothing compared to “real raid bosses” found in “other” MMOs, but it’s a good step in the right direction! I love this patch <3

The chance at the mini is alone well worth the reward. It sells for a ton (350g buy order yesterday)

for now. in a couple weeks it will be around 100 in a month or 2? 50-80 at most? not worth the time for the small chance at it. There have been what? 5-10 mini drops over like 10+ kills with 120-150 people each?

tbh, the mini should have been account bound for doing the teq achievements or if they wanted something rare the first to kill him on each server, all those that got credit would get him and account bound.

Xcom.1926:

I would say on ET more than half were Blackgate people, probably closer to 60-65%.

so we give ET .5 and BG .5?

ET had many people there and we had a lot. They actually picked up the fight faster than some of the BG people.

darkace.8925:

Congratulations on the victory, ET.

Now that that’s out of the way, I wanna sulk a bit. As a native BG resident who just suffered through the single most pathetic attempt at anything in this game I’ve ever seen I feel cheated on knowing that my fellow BGers were off succeeding somewhere else.

Edit: “cheated on”, not “cheated”…funny how the omission of a tiny, two letter word can completely change the context of an entire post.

blame ANET for their terrible design of guesting and or mobs that require hilarious amount of people and alot of coordination and not allowing enough to be in each zone.

Zelu.1692:

Alternatively, if what we are striving for is realism, after 15 mins there could be a hard enrage mechanism:

1 – Tequatl does some über-attack that kills all players currently in Sparkfly Fen.
2 – This zone-wide wipe triggers a worldwide debuff on all players: “Tequatl succeeded in taking over Sparkfly Fen and destroyed all life within. Morale on Tyria is low.” (everybody in every zone gets -5% debuff to dmg)

Now that might be motivation enough to defeat him when he rises. :-)

well, just fail at the lasers and you will see something awesome!

Changer the Elder.2948:

It feels so great to down that sucker! Thanks to everyone present!

Seriously, the loot NEEDS to be better though. Bunch of greens and blues + one Rare coat? That’s a joke, easier things drop way better stuff.

yea but i guess beating it is reward enough.. yes and no. I got my title tonight so thats awesome, until everyone has it.

i just noticed.. nihevil’s picture shows me dead.. this is unacceptable!

grats!

Too bad, we from BG were discussing going there to help you :P

Nekomata.3147:

Here’s the thing with Blackgate guesting to ET…

Before Blackgate showed up: We had maybe 30 people fighting Tequatl… Then Blackgate came and helped- bumped our numbers of by another 30 or 40. Then word got around and other ET locals came rushing in what seemed like their best chance for victory. Of course- other servers heard BG was there- and they came rushing too- hence the creation of the overflow.

A lot of Eredon Terrace locals got loot, experience- and (in my opinion) the best time we’ve had on GW2. Could we have done it without BG’s help? I’ll put my pride as a ET local aside and say this: Probably not.

But now, we know how to fight Tequatl. An hour and a half later- another fight- it seems hope for victory is up because a lot of people showed up- enough for overflow (Blackgate left)- and while we didn’t win- we had our best run in a while (not counting the BG help runs). We got him to 1/2 health and got the Flawless Defense Achievement.

Bottom line is- BG helped us not only by giving us our first victory- but showing us first hand what to do. Therefor- I am grateful to the Blackgate guests for helping. Even if we had not won with them- I’m still grateful.

Isn’t this what the event is supposed to do? Bring together players to fight? Okay- so guesting is gonna happen a lot more- but what fun is this event with 30 people and getting slaughtered nonstop. Being able to fight, survive- and see the hope of victory is great! It makes it more fun with more people.

thats awesome. you guys will get it soon!

Namu.5712:

I think if you dont move every few minutes you get kicked like in WvW.

And if it detects a macro to bypass that you get kicked as well.

I find it very annoying that people hold their spots for events but when the even starts they are still gone….. FOR HOURS. I have no problem with someone akitteng between events to stay on the map…. but if your not gonna be there when it starts and everyone is needed….

if i have to go to the bathroom i should not get kicked. If its 45 mins or something thats cool. a few minutes is unreasonable.

Nihevil.8024:

sup brah
/15char

a few of us got it during the ET kill. So we join the above Servermate

Halcyon.7352:

I sadly wasn’t in attendance for the first two successful defeats of Tequatl on Tarnished Coast, but I feel the need to point something out:

Blackgate may have been the first to defeat Tequatl. Desolation did it next. But both servers did it during their respective prime time hours (well, close enough with Deso’s), when the chances of getting together the right mix of cooperative guilds and groups of people together were the best.

TC may not have been first, but we managed to down the monster early in the day, a day off of content patch release, and midweek, off normal peak hours. Just goes to show the sort of stuff we’re made of.

For the Toast!

BG did the same for their 2nd kill.

KOPPER.1458:

I’ve not noticed a tail swipe. How do you get that one?

get behind him and dodge a bunch. apparently he lifts his tail up before it so ..

darkace.8925:

mallas.9836:

suppose to defend all the batteries.. like you have to go to them. I did that on the first kill and this most recent kill and not getting it. Its sad i want my title!

“Batteries” as in the things charging the mega-laser? Or “batteries” as in the turret batteries?

the charging things.

gereden.6983:

same mallas i was confused on how to get it

suppose to defend all the batteries.. like you have to go to them. I did that on the first kill and this most recent kill and not getting it. Its sad i want my title!

sigh Power Play will not register for me. Its my last achievement before title

reLik.5680:

Tarnished Coast has conquered!

grats tc!

BG just killed him for 2nd time

sirflamesword.3896:

Coldin.2840:

sirflamesword.3896:

Scumbag Mawile.6384:

it’s a wave

a wave of tears from the spam 1 world boss farmers

What do you think it took BG to zerg down Teq? Sitting in 1 spot using all your damage skills over and over while the turrets buff you till each of the 25%, 50%, 75% phases pop up? Anyone who thinks this is much different is blind.

Very true.

There is more to it obviously. Those people have to know to dodge out of the way of the waves, and not stick too long in a poison puddle. And the groups on turrets need to be well coordinated to keep up those buffs and poison removals.

But after that, it’s basically just boss DPS 101. Stack and spam attacks.

Watching the BG video, most of their DPS people DID’NT dodge the waves and stayed in the poison and went down multiple times. It was actually kinda sad that basically all it took to defeat him was 100+ people standing as close together as possible, and 6 competent people on the turrets that knew to hit Teq with 2 every time it was up and to cleanse/buff the zergball as much as possible. Oh and a few people to kill the risen around the turrets.

What they should do instead of “nerfing” Teq, is to cut his health by 1/2, make him do his Wave about twice as much in the first phase, increase the poison, whirlpools. Double/triple the amount of risen going after the turrets. Keep the defending of the megalazer and such(I really like how they added a new dimension to the boss fight). Basically what I’m saying is to increase the rate of his normal attacks making it harder to just stand and DPS him, while also decreasing his health to make it reasonable to be able to kill him while dodging/rezzing/killing risen.

Edit: Added my ideas on how to make this a fun fight, not a DPS check.

the problem with this is if you spread out, you can’t res thus you lose tons of dps with 20 people running back. If they add more damage to the waves or the “puddles” or increase the frequency it would make this fight truly impossible.

SynfulChaot.3169:

GekoHayate.2451:

zaxziakohl.5243:

Or do what I’m doing. Guest on Black gate, stay in Sparkfly and wait for travel

Please don’t, it makes it impossible for players in Blackgate (you know, people actually from that server) to get into the main instance.

Why should non-Blackgate players be disallowed from trying to join in on a server with a much higher chance than their own server may have?

because the people from that server originally get locked out from grouping and doing things with their own server. This is one of the problems with the zerg/huge fights Anet is putting in. Scarlett did the same. It separates you from your server mates. If they want separate servers why make events that screw that up.

That being said, that fight was mega fun!

the no turret killed achievement may be a bit hard to get :P

Ewon.5903:

Quick question for those that managed to kill him, is this something you will now try to do again?

we are waiting for him again. but we have lost some of the force so we will see.

and down!

yes! finally

Poledo.3256:

bwuki.2175:

NOOOOOOOOO 1%

-blackgate

That hurts

I have no real opinion on it yet, but I can safely guess that they will nerf it.

yea i have no doubt. Just hope we get it this time :P

unless we are handed the mini, and ascended item and 500 gold.. this event was not worth it :P

completely agree. While it will be a nice feat to beat him as he is , for the other probably 85% of the servers, it seems a bit too harsh of a fight.

ONE kitten %

ARGH!!!!!!!!

OH i agree. It may be nerfed soon maybe not. But if they do this will all the world bosses, it won’t be a good idea. But overall even the dragons like this isn’t all that great of an idea. That is what they want though so…

yes and no it isn’t. There are multiple areas to fight. Those at Teq (near him) should probably be geared out though.

skylightmoon.. there are multiple screen shots of it.

they will be awesome greens and grumble cakes

there is a screen shot my friend.

Blackgate has it at 25%. It may be beaten tonight. We will see.

25% screen shot inc at some point here