Guild Wars 2

Is shortbow speed ever going to get increased again after they did that animation fix a few months ago or is the current speed as intended.

Lots of classes can escape the guardian sadly they really shine in Spvp where you are forced to go to cap points, wvw not as much i guess.

i can telll you
1 is yes but i havent really used the other traits you mentioned here.
i tried assassins reward but it didnt seem worth it to me.

Is this purely WvW where they are giving you a hard time? What class do you play tagnut im just curious.

1. yes and no, It would make adding some other gametypes a bit easier but on the other hand fights with healers could somtimes drag on for a while

2, yes somtimes but i also enjoy switching it up to dps

3, its just a different kind of balance, it has defiantly made the game feel more action oriented and fun because you cant drag on a fight as long.

How i go about countering frenzy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-P9Zz43loTE

For the stealth argument, mesmer can stealth too. Not as often but they still can go through port burst their sword combo shatter.

hackks.3687:

Next, the Glory/Rank rewards for hotjoins need to be cut in half or better – it’s a place to learn or fool around, not a place to farm the inexperienced. There also needs to be a reason to leave hotjoins and take a shot at greater rewards. Copper chests don’t cut it. This would also introduce these players into the actual intended game format and strategies – something that does not happen in hotjoins. This would eventually create a larger mid level talent pool that could then find their way into groups and then higher tiers of game play. A player base that has been substantially depleted.

As well, standard paids need to have their ticket fee reduced substantially. There’s nothing special enough about these to keep the costs so high. Weekly and Monthly tourneys should be the only paid tournaments with any kind of substantive entry fee.

but hey, what do I know…

I think even more of the casual players will leave if this is implemented and go to WvW.

Maybe they could add an extra option for queing 5v5 casually instead of just using the server browser method or tournament, along with a penalty for leaving this would let players practice 5v5 and get more confident. Im saying this instead of just go que for 5v5 free tournaments because the que for them is made worse because you have to wait for multiple teams rather than just 5 and then you have to wait a few mins for everyone to tick ready. Then if you lose you get booted out and wait all over again.

They should also add a extra 20 seconds on to the end of the game and freeze people in place so fighting doesnt continue when the score boards pop up. Somtimes i just close the browser and continue to kill and leave at the start of the next match

8V8 is too zergy ive almost given up playing raid on the capricorn.

i only used quickness on my ranger because not being able to heal isnt much of a drawback because you don’t use it if you know you will need to heal in 1-2 seconds. Sadly the change to shortbow animation speed broke the build i used at the time so it became more useful just to use it for reviving and finishers.

I never use thiefs one apart from switching it out on khylo sometimes to range people down at mid point with bow. Not being able to dodge screws you over in team fights.

Warriors isnt too bad but you are forced to bring endure pain because stun breaking bulls charge is pretty easy. Mesmer ele and thiefs blink makes it useless. If that isnt available i blinding powder it. But that all depends if i didnt dodge it already anyway.

I wouldn’t mind it being removed but it would make warriors that much easier for me to kill.

Maybe they could change the downside effect on thiefs quickness to make it more risky in a 1v1 situation.

In the future could blinding powder be changed to cancel the cloak and dagger animation or some other fix so we dont accidentally break the proc giving us a de-buff. I like this trait but its a 50/50 save you or kill you one.

Also about the posts above i run 1800 toughness and i dont think ive ever been hit more than 3.5k by steal or 6k by a backstab. But usually because they are so glassy i can do a 5k one straight back at them but i have more hp (18k).

You play ele dont you tagnut? if so use the power toughness vitality gear i do on my ele and it works great.

Makes me laugh that everyone who says thief hits xx always follows it with armour and healthpool they never say, he is running with 900 toughness.

retaliation and confusion used to tear my shortbow rangers face off in 2 seconds flat untill they nerfed the animation speed for shortbow. But retaliation is either too powerful on fast hitting classes or crap on more bursty classes.

Intigo.1653:

Oh deary, you’re so confused. /me doesn’t work, all you did to them were “gestures”.

Use Invite / Join when you have them targeted from the Party Window on the top left.

oh that wasnt me saying that, but ill keep that join party thing in mind for next time.

had a great time with you guys made my week to rally together against a keep.

what weapons did he use? was it condition dmg or backstab that killed you?

could be cool, Maybe replace the ambush trap, it could not let invisible people enter? or give everyone the stealth debuff for 3 secs.

I think they should definetly give it to rangers not 100% sure on engi because i havent really played one so not sure how much extra group utility is needed. And then give mesmer something that gives them 25% run speed out of combat.

I currently play thief and some aoe is pretty silly. Somtimes its much easier to shotgun chain cluster bomb killing the downed person and the person ressing him. Wasnt it the first podcast thing where they talked to Tpvpers where they said its much better to aoe people down instead of casting finishers.

grow up, why cant i state the fact it annoys me in team games how many times the enemy gets picked up before the enemy makes a screw up and doesnt press f fast enough.

I cant really speak for pve but in pvp i personally never steal from ranger’s but i play more defensive builds that already have enough regen. Funnily enough the ele steal is really effective against D/D ele because without mobility they are much more vulnerable apart from when they remove it instantly. But mostly its enough time to get a good backstab off.

It would be cool to get a more interesting ability , maybe somthing more like scorpion wire like a gust of wind that sucks the ele towards you.

I agree and disagree with guardian one, sometimes its amazing when you save it to interrupt a heal but it becomes less useful the more tanky the guardians build is.

Its a problem in Wvw when their servers cant send the data fast enough to the players so people are invisible when really they arent. This is made worse by classes with stealth or high mobility. You wont have this problem in Spvp. Somewhere i saw that tab targeting allows you to target the thief.

It adds a extra second or two to each stealth.

Ha i get animation bugs in Spvp surprisingly often decided to mess around with it.

I made it very early in the game so it was either a bug or a crit proc from a deer or free tournament token.

Im currently levelling mine with pistol dagger and caltrops utility i have no problem with melee enemies, range can be a little harder but i think once i can get enough into shadow arts for regeneration while in stealth ill be just fine.

I felt the same way on my ele till i put more traits into defensive abilities like protection when switching to earth or regen and condtion removal when switching to water.

Just being sneaky and stuff.

i love my frozen one in pvp, i wish i wrote down how i made it though because i would really like to make the daggers also.

I would agree that its not the best downed ability but its the direct counter to a thief because its a channelled ability, sadly i cant really get blind with my build without sacrificing a kitten ton of regeneration or my stun breaker.

you can start casting your fear as we cast cloak and dagger so you will always get it off unless the killing blow on you is done with cloak and dagger or blinding powder is used just as you die.

Doing fine so far , Would like to see some different gametypes because stealth builds arent viable in Spvp simply because of the capture node. Also some broken traits in the shadow arts tree could be fixed.

As a thief its almost impossible to kill a necro in a group fight before he gets ressed, this is because channelled abilities continue to cast on a thief even in stealth. Every time i down a necro i cloak and dagger instantly but still get feared. I dont even care that rapid fire continues to hit us but getting my res negated every time unless my blinding powder happens to be off CD is really annoying.

where can i find the patch notes

^ pretty much the reason why my two friends quit playing the game.

Khyras.8021:

2vs1 is utter disasterimo and all because of downed system. Few days ago i logged in with my ranger for some pvp ( free tournament if i remember correctly).I go to a point and there is a engineer with half hp.I go into fight with him then his ranger buddy shows up.I down engineer and damage him from time to time to stop him from rezing while i fight ranger.I down a ranger too at this point my health is very low, then engineer pulls me in and does that explosion thing and i go down too.Next thing i know engineer is on his feet?!? and i get stomped.So i win a fight 1vs2 fair and square then i get defeated because of a crappy game mechanic, i know there are people out there who can understand how frustrating that is.Logged out, haven’t played since. I remember when i was playing Warhammer online with my marauder,winning a fight 1 vs 2 in or against a higher level player was so much fun and exciting and so exhilarating and satisfying, you earned that victory and it was yours.That is probably the feeling i miss the most when i pvp in GW 2.

ive had the problem where ive killed two terrible players who backpeddle miss with everything but i have to kill them 4-5 times over just because of how easy it is to revive someone faster than the finish animation.

From a Spvp perspective

-If you’re being attacked 2v1, whats the first thing that comes to mind?
depends how good the players are generally kill the squishies first. If you know they are a beserk build kill them, If they seem to be tanky switch target. Dont bother downing guardian first because they usually take a while to die. And never kill ele first because their down state allows them to get a pretty easy revive. Also dont be afraid to run while you wait for heal and reengage if needed.

-What top 3 classes take priority in threat level? (I.E. If a Thief and Guardian run up to you, who is the bigger danger?) Mesmers by far, and not because of the bug but because of all the utility and stun breaks they have.

-How much aggro do you pull in a fight? Not sure what you mean, In spvp my thief is generally ignored because i play pistol dagger, when im on my warrior i get focused hard.

-In a big group fight do you focus on any particular class first? D/D thief because they drop like a sack of stones. after that staff ele then ranger because they dont have the best escape mechanics.

SecondtoNone.7549:

Eh, burst is too strong in this game too. People have just finally discovered that DD ele can burst too. I say nerf burst in general, not just the DD ele. A GC ele will have the lowest HP and lowest armor in the game though at least.

Imo, the only class I’ve seen that’s really vocal about DD Ele OPness are thieves. lol.

Its because D/D ele can put a nice amount of chill up which is the thiefs bane and catch them if they try to escape.

Leadfoot.9071:

Rezz.8019:

Yeah d/d eles are quite overpowered, but people still complain about thieves

I was about to post a thread asking about this… people are always kittening about thieves but what about these ele’s I keep running into?

I admit I am no pro but still, these d/d ele’s seem tanky like guardians but put out a ton of damage – not quite as bursty as a backstab theif combo or a fully eaten 100b but still pretty bad coupled with a lot of cc.

Why do I not hear anybody kittening about this? I would see one argument possibly being that elementalists are a lot harder to play – I am not stating this as a fact but looking at the fact that you have to juggle weapon skills across 4 attunements I imagine this is a much higher skill cap.

Thief burst is deadly when it hits every 30-40s whatever it is – but outside of that they get shredded like a paper bag if they can’t get away.

They arent a lot harder to play, its just a few more button presses to do the same thing as other classes instead of 4 or so skills you press 8-10 for a combo chain. But you get used to that pretty quickly.

In my opinion ranger isnt as fun, If you dont want to rely on a pet play a thief because a lot of the rangers survivability and damage comes from the pet which is mostly controlled by AI and not your hotkeys.

I dont think ill ever buy a box with a chance to get what i want. I would gladly just pay upfront a certain amount , its never a good feeling to know you pay’s say £30 to get a pet where your friend may have got lucky and only had to spend £15

I really love the endless tonics from Christmas but i prefer the gem store costumes from Halloween event.

I have never noticed this perma invis thief problem on my ele that everyone seems to get annoyed with.

And if its a problem with culling how would a reveal debuff help in the slightest because to the server he isnt invisible. Only you cant see him because of the culling problem.

It does sound like a lot of fun. Would also make the forum interesting when people cant cry nerf this because they are the same class.

Oh god the full bunker guardian matches.

I still see people trying to finish the mesmer that doesnt have the huge red arrow above his head when downed, some people will never learn.

Dee Jay.2460:

Clusterbomb is an incredibly strong ability for such a low cost. The damage is also much higher when you don’t detonate it (but you don’t get the spread or Bleeds iirc). The combo finisher aspect is just icing on the cake.

That’s why I believe it could be increased.

Clusterbomb hits harder when detonated because it hits 3 times for a total slightly more than undetonated. + if detonated and all 3 hit it does 3 stacks of bleed instead of 1.

Pistol vital shot breaks blinding powder stealth very often, which then also triggers the stealth cooldown.

Its to do with the projectile speed if at close to max range, if i happen to use blinding powder the second ive fired an autohit i go stealth then the bullet hits breaking stealth.

Stealth dropping on damage would never work in this game.

Unless they made it so you cant spam your autohit without a target, otherwise the second CnD is used in MELEE RANGE, a MELEE attack will hit them out instantly.

Ele if you want to beat everyone at a reasonable pace. I roll around with 1800 toughness and 20k hp on my ele and still get 2-6k crits. + they have best mobility in game hands down.

Or if you want to instant kill noobs then roll thief or mesmer.

Guardians are amazing all around, they lack mobility but who needs that when you need to stand on a capture point.

warriors are a bit more bursty and much more mobile than guardians, but lack group utility and condition removal.

Thiefs are squishy very mobile and a bit more bursty than warrior.

Guardian is the best for leveling in my opinion because of all they healing they can do + npc’s wont move from your aoe abilities.

yeh that is silly , especially if its rapid fire that thing is nasty in D/D spec.

This mechanic doesn’t work as well in gw2. In gw1 using a skill rooted you in place so you couldn’t side strafe and attack at the same time, you had to choose between doing damage or dodging it. Now you can just do both.

Kylex.5962:

Well not looking to start flame wars here or anything.
not gonna talk about macros (all macros do here is make sure this combo is 100% but it is possible without)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbhdsF4oEI8

C&D/Steal/BS/HS all at same time + stealth clipped so enemy unable to see you. then follow up with auto attacks or double HS.

this is done vs a guardian/semi bunker so you can imagine the dps vs another class

as far as Im aware only 3-4 thief’s know this.

just want peoples thoughts on the vid

Every single backstab thief uses this combo, but none use quickness so thats probably whats causing the heart strike to go off while in stealth still.

With all these glass cannon mesmers around i get 11k quite often. I think 16k on a frenzy warrior. My average feels like 5-6k