Guild Wars 2

Windsagio.1340:

It’s just gamer entitlement with a nice thick gravy of greed poured over.

So it’s greed to be asking to be treated fairly like the new customer are ?
Then sure I’m the most greedy man ever.

sjr.8241:

Many games do this exact same thing with expansions, they include the original game to entice new people to get the game, especially in this case where the expansion is not a stand alone game but the original is required to play the expansion.

Give me another example where the expansion wasn’t sell alone in a offer? Please.

briggah.7910:

GranspearZX.5624:

briggah.7910:

nexxe.7081:

Veterans keep this game alive by using their time on this game, and buying gems. And you have the gall to call them greedy? Some veterans spend hundreds and thousands of dollars on the gem store. You can kindly go you know what.

haha calling them greedy cause they want something that new players are getting free when they already had free content for a long time yet new players will never see that content.. yup greedy if you ask me.

It was the players choice to buy gems. It was never forced on you. I spent lots of money on gem store items too and tbh the game needed and expansion cause it wasn’t enough for me to keep playing new content every 2 weeks. Players wanted the expansion and although anet said we probably wouldn’t see one. that is what the players pushed for

Yes. This unknown thing that no one knows the full scope of is what players pushed for.

Some people just seem to insist upon themselves being openly not bright.

If you want to pay $50 for what essentially amounts to an Early Access game, that’s fine, but to call people who have a little bit more monetary sense than that ‘greedy’ is an amazing reach.

Wow and another person saying that I’m calling people greedy cause of some price. I’m calling players that think they deserve something since they’ve played this game longer than a new person that is just buying the game that includes a freebie.. You clearly got more freebies then these new players ever will get. Can I make it any clearer? PRICE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT I WAS POINTING OUT. Maybe greedy is the wrong term.. Selfish maybe?

Aww new players get a freebie and I’ve gotten freebies for the past few years. Its not fair. I demand a freebie too.. wah wah wah

Oh well everyone seems frustrated and I was trying to make a certain point but everyone is still stuck on the price and what new players are getting instead of realizing that old players have gotten way more freebies.

So you find totally logical this kind of double standart between customer base ?
Veteran choose to play & support the company contrary to new player than never bat an eyelid at it.

From wikipedia customer Retention:

Customers usually encounter three types of switching costs:
(1) financial switching costs (e.g., fees to break contract, lost reward points);
(2) procedural switching costs (time, effort, and uncertainty in locating, adopting, and using a new brand/provider);
(3) relational switching costs (personal relationships and identification with brand and employees)…however, relational switching costs have the strongest association with customer repurchase intentions and behavior

Customer relationship management: Acknowledging the social and relational aspects it has been argued that firms can increase retention by focusing on managing customer relationships.
Relationship management occurs when firms can take a longer-terms perspective, rather than a transactional perspective to managing their customer base.

I could explain it to you but I already know where this is going considering the current backlash.

evoRobot.4019:

When you paid $50 for the base game, you bought it brand new. After 3 years of deprecation, the game as hit its lowest selling point of $10. 3 YEARS! ($10 is still impressive)

We have to accept $50 is the price of the XPAC, for now. And it would be hard to give EVERYONE a FREE character slot.. that’s like 4 million slots to hand out, imagine the costs of servers and maintenance, utilities, electricity just to uphold that.

I’m sure they have more to release about the Xpac, new content etc… MAYBE a huge surprise towards the official release.

So you are basically saying that the core game is now free ?
I will say yes.

Find me one multiplayer game that didn’t give first time buyer a exchange deal( extra cosmetic, etc….) when they get f2p ?

evoRobot.4019:

papry.8096:

evoRobot.4019:

You got something.. You got to keep the game for 3 years without a sub and free living stories throughout the 3 years without being forced to pay.

If you are weak for cosmetics from the gem store, at the time you paid for something you valued.

Don’t use your past contributions to justify the new Xpac. You made those decisions based on what you valued at that time.

Like I said, the Xpac is $50. and new players get the core game for free as bonus.

Someone who never experienced the game is saving $10… whats the big deal.

Okay let’s change the angle:
What happens before doesn’t matter right ?
So why new player should have the core game for free ?

Who said “what happened before doesn’t matter”. I said don’t justify what you think the price should be based on your past contributions, ie. if you bought gems.

The game is worth 10 dollars, based on the lowest sale point, and depreciation for the past 3 years. But Anet has chosen to give it to new players for free.

If you are weak for cosmetics from the gem store, at the time you paid for something you valued.
Don’t use your past contributions to justify the new Xpac. You made those decisions based on what you valued at that time.

So what I valued during these three year, doesn’t justify the XPAC.
Okay fine.

But new player that didn’t value the game at all get it for free in deal with the Xpac?

You still don’t see where this is wrong ?

Customer retention is the activity that a selling organization undertakes in order to reduce customer defections.
Successful customer retention starts with the first contact an organization has with a customer and continues throughout the entire lifetime of a relationship.

A company’s ability to attract and retain new customers, is not only related to its product or services, but strongly related to the way it services its existing customers and the reputation it creates within and across the marketplace.

From wikipedia.

Anet pulled a m****finger on every veteran with that move.

I won’t even dwelve into the FAQ situation because this one is litteraly a breach of trust. We are supposed to believe what written in these by a company but Anet just changed before a major annoucement.

This two things together will naturally upset a lot of veterans.

evoRobot.4019:

You got something.. You got to keep the game for 3 years without a sub and free living stories throughout the 3 years without being forced to pay.

If you are weak for cosmetics from the gem store, at the time you paid for something you valued.

Don’t use your past contributions to justify the new Xpac. You made those decisions based on what you valued at that time.

Like I said, the Xpac is $50. and new players get the core game for free as bonus.

Someone who never experienced the game is saving $10… whats the big deal.

Okay let’s change the angle:
What happens before doesn’t matter right ?
So why new player should have the core game for free ?

evoRobot.4019:

the X pac is 50$ whether you like it or not.

If you are a new player, great! We will give you the core game for free, you have alot of catch up to do.

Simple as that!

If you are a veteran that have been playing the game for three years, buying thing on the gemstore constantly & be part of the community. Well you get nothing.
That’s a very good way to retain already existing customers……but seems more & more than Anet doesn’t care about that.

Okay what, the hell is this…………….
I own GW2 since launch.
I supported the game despite the fact that sometime I rant.
I was thinking 50 or 60 buck for the expansion with bonuses but what do we get; a mandatory base game package + expansion.
It’s like Anet are saying to player: “well guys thx for supporting us but we need extra money so will you pay AGAIN for the game that you already brought 3 years ago…KAY thx”.

What is wrong with the guy that took this decision ?

To OP : you are right.
The only way I found to solve that is to play with guildies when we decide to do that kind of thing.
Like doing fractal lvl 1 with character at lvl2.
Kill every mob in a dungon.
Go full necro/ranger/ranged war only/etc….
Sadly, there is not really a way to get that kind of fun on LFG research.

No.

Tolmos.8395:

Whether the first time in a dungeon, or the 100th time in a dungeon, Zerker is hands down the only way to go. Familiarity with the dungeon seems to be wholly irrelevant to that.

That’s so wrong. Get it you don’t like the zerker meta but don’t twist reality like that please.

dlonie.6547:

There’s no other alternative. It’s either you can run dungeons with 5 people using the same build, or you can’t and are forced to rely on several builds. If you see any grey zone there then feel free to point it out, because I myself am not seeing it at all.

What you’re missing is that a build is more than gear stats. All zerks aren’t running the same build, there are multiple “meta” trait and skill configurations used for different PvE encounters. Just because they aren’t changing their gear doesn’t mean they’re all playing the same way.

You are talking to a deaf person.

I will say Ghost slayer cos GS & marjorie have a ghost in her katana.

WilnerGW.3275:

Is it worth it?

No; even with 700% MF It doesn’t worth it.

No, I won’t bother myself.

WesleySnipes.3917:

I purchased GW2 as soon as i heard that they were making a MAC client. I was thrilled!
My friends were telling me so much about it but I wasn’t able to play it until then.
So when i finally purchased the game, only because it had a “mac version under development” i found that the game was as good as i expected, i got to say it got me addicted for some time, but one little thing that kept killing the fun of the game was the FPS on macbook pros.
It was impossible to play a pvp match, a world boss and lets not even mention WvW, which was one of the features that caught my eye when I started searching about GW2.

Anyways, my point is:
I have a mac.
I only bought the game because you guys made an advertisement about a mac client.
It’s been around 3 years and I haven’t seen the Beta sticker out of the mac client.
I can’t enjoy the game on my mac, which runs the game smooth as butter on bootcamp, on the same mac (my dvd-r doesn’t read anything anymore so i can’t do a bootcamp and i am not bothered to mess around my mac’s coding to try to make bootcamp work, and neither will i pay for parallels just for GW2) so the problem isn’t my laptop, considering other mac users suffer the same problems.

BUT!!!!!
I do own an Xbox One and recently i found out that there’s an mmorpg that was for pc and now is on xbox.

I haven’t played gw2 in a very long time because it’s impossible to enjoy on mac. But I would very much enjoy playing it once again with my guildmates on my xbox one.

To wrap it all up… please consider gw2 for consoles free for those who already bought the game, ESPECIALLY MAC USERS.

Thank you

So basically you buyed the crapbook to play a game what they are really bad at doing & now you want to have it port on console.
Dude just buy a decent laptop, thx.

CureForLiving.5360:

Variety is the spice of life?

Without it people can’t complain. So yes you are right.

Adrift.8596:

Example: we ask 100 times to go waypoint if u are dead in silverwastes events due to boss scaling… And some people don’t even understand us… then when we finally res them you see something like ‘’ merci ’’…. like really man? you can’t even thank me in English…

So basically has you need a culprit for a failure.
Your first argument is “that the fault of those that thanked me in french”.
These guys doesn’t understand me & don’t read the map channel.
So yeah let’s all seclude them; these kitten non english speaker.

Has it ever occured to you that there is bad/doesn’t caring/leecher/newbie players regardless of which language they speak ?

Adrift.8596:

Really? I am seeing English as a superior because i proposed to divide servers to English base, German base, French base etc.? Where is this seeing English being superior or is that because English population is the majority of the game? I have no point to learn a language which is basicly talked in 1 country and if they see no point to learn English we have no way to communicate and our gameplay gets worse. This is not about rasism to other language its about improving gameplay for all.

Is there really a need to explain to you where is the ****** part about language superiority ?

PorceleinEve.2973:

na ’sai kala re man poy apedeixes me tosh eukolia auto pou legame.

ah nai, gia na mh to xexasw…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_the_European_Union

Well see there; I just didn’t care. :p

PorceleinEve.2973:

bla bla

Short version you are just being an elitist knee jerk… Sorry have to get it out of my system.
Can I get my point moderator please ? & the thread closed too ?

Perfect most player interested by pvp by than GTAV on test day.
Good job Anet.

Nope thank you.

Wait for once something looks nicer on charr character than on human.
What’s happening ? O_o

Victuswolf.5286:

They call it a red panda mini when it looks nothing like a panda. Why? It looks like a fox or re-textured low res raccoon.

Was that mini made in china? It would explain the low quality and calling it a panda when it’s not :P

I hope that my sarcasm detector is still functionnal.

I agree there is something off with the mini quality.
Can’t exactly pin what it is.

Yes; buy it on the gemstore & equip it.

I got invited!! Hel yeah!!!!!

So we will get a new fancy mini llama :
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/test-your-mettle-in-the-second-player-vs-player-ladder-test-season/

But what happen to people that already link a mini llama to their account ?

Once this next test season has concluded, you’ll be able to approach Zommoros, carefully place a few Mini Llamas together in a scientific (and hopefully humane) fashion, and combine them to create the ultimate form of cuteness and fuzziness. Mini Llamas that you received prior to the Ladder Test Seasons can also go through this transformation, so don’t let any that you may already have in your possession run away!

Does that mean that I will have to find another llama miniature to put it in the forge to get the new one ?

I buyed 25 dye pack. I got 4 shadow abyss & a bunch of other abyss dye around 8 or 9.

Sorry but not even “vet” follow the basic rules for this kind of boss:
– If you are dead ( not downed) you must TP.
– know the strat for the boss or at least read map chan.
Usually people will write what to do and where help is needed or don’t be afraid to ask.

Just now I saw my worst VN fail: 2 boss on 3 killed and 13 carriers left.
Top lane is about to enter except that they must resuplly carrier; they asked for help in map chan I went & tried to help refilling the carrier.
At one point I died, then TP to see the bootom lane full of dead people waiting & not refilling carriers.
We lost the 13 carriers……that was pathetic.

This isn’t the fault of veteran or newbie player; just the fault of the bad one.
I saw this trend; during the week end, the level of the playing population falls like no other day of the week.
So much than me & most of my guildies stopped to go in SW during week end because we pretty much sure that tries are doomed to fail.

KGS.9842:

When we give cars to people, a few of them will be stupid enough to drive drunk and cause accidents, let’s solve the problem by taking cars away from everybody

Well they won’t be able to cause too many accidents because after the first one they will be in deep problem thus limiting their toxicity.
For a tool on a game; I doubt they will really care about consequence.

Wethospu.6437:

So if you got a DPS meter you would suddenly turn from a nice guy into a monster?

Also you even said it yourself that you prefer people with higher DPS.

Well not everyone but when I read your answer for instance I do fear than yes.
The same is already happening with AP.
For example; we were 4 guys doing a cita story; 3 of us with above 14K AP & one with 498 AP.
I saw at least 10 guy joins & suddenly leave the group until I added in the lfg “500 AP in there don’t be afraid”.

As for I prefer the higher DPS: can you quote me the exact part when I said that ?

Wethospu.6437:

papry.8096:

Wethospu.6437:

The truth is that if you are measuring the size of the pencil, no matter how you sign your name, the bigger pencil will be bigger.

This game doesn’t give you extra points for style or friendship.

Two player with big pencil – tiny resistance aka (zerk)
One not able to sign his name (spending his time on the ground).
One able to sign his name (being usefull).

I will always prefer someone with a lesser pen, if he sign better than the other one (aka a bit more tanky gear & bit less DPS but usually alive & usefull).

You always get points for style & friendship.

What points? Imaginary points?

Then why would you care about a dps meter? You can still get your imaginary points.

You seems to be unable to reply to the first part.
So has for the imaginary point part; I always feels good when I helped a fellow player in one way or another because isn’t what MMO are about ? “playing with people” ?

As quite a number of people have stated give someone a tool and he will be misused in many way aka WOW gearscore & inspect function from other MMO.
I will always thanks Anet to not have implemented this kind of thing in GW2.

ShinjoNaomi.1896:

No.
The only people that should have any sort of DPS meter are Developers. The last thing we need is something to further empower elitists and braggarts.

Totally agree.

Wethospu.6437:

The truth is that if you are measuring the size of the pencil, no matter how you sign your name, the bigger pencil will be bigger.

This game doesn’t give you extra points for style or friendship.

Two player with big pencil – tiny resistance aka (zerk)
One not able to sign his name (spending his time on the ground).
One able to sign his name (being usefull).

I will always prefer someone with a lesser pen, if he sign better than the other one (aka a bit more tanky gear & bit less DPS but usually alive & usefull).

You always get points for style & friendship.

Caeledh.5437:

Since we can apply whatever skin we want to weapons I think this is a total non-issue.

IMO the existing legendaries are amongst the ugliest and silliest looking weapons in the game. If I ever got lucky enough to loot a precursor and then do all the work to legendize it, I would go into my home alone and equip it so I could see it once, then apply a skin before equipping it in public.

Thankfully there’s no shortage of other weapon skins I do like.

That’s good for you.
But legendary have this little plus : awesome particle effect & skill changing design.
And that’s why I so much like some of them: like Juggernaut for example.

Mirta.5029:

having in mind that profits for the expansion were predicted in Q3, it’s no earlier than July. And I’m pretty sure that we won’t get anything substantial before the expansion :I

This was done by a company with no tie to Anet; It’s pure speculation.

Yalora Istairiea.6287:

Because in GW2 it is about cooperation not comparison.
Its not the size of the pencil… but how you sign your name.

That so much that !!!

uberkingkong.8041:

Perfect topic to put my information down.

My input on clicking (I’d make my own thread but I cant lol)

*This game needs something similar to WvW que, where you que ONCE you wait in line, none of this 200th person to start spamming join in sparkfly fen got lucky and gets into sparkfly fen while the other 199 people have been spamming that kittening join in sparkfly fen button for 30 mins.

I should only have to press join in sparkfly fen ONCE and than it puts me into que. I got way better things to be doing than spamming some stupid kitten join in sparkfly fen button.

Why this que system is only in WvW is beyond me.

These developers need to work TOGETHER.

Because ya know what. EVEN the PvP system is just as bad as the PvE system.
It’s like the PvE developer, the PvP developer, and the WvW developer are all on different pages, they don’t even communicate to one another is what it seems like.

Lemme tell ya, WvW developer has it right with the que system, the PvP and PvE developers, they need to take notes…

Implement this que system like now… I really hate spamming that join button, and I’m sure several others hate spamming it too.

I have no problems with event being in open world, I just have problems with spamming that button and people that get lucky and get into the world on first try while I’ve been spamming it for 30 mins. kittening unfair.*

Yes this is totally related to topic, too much kitten clicking.

THIS THIS THIS PLEASE.

Well here I go again; There seems to be a real struggle for player regarding these ressources.
When they were first introduced they weren’t used outside ascended crafting.
The dragonite & empyreal fragment seems to be at a decent percentage while a lot of people struggled with bloodstone as it dropped way too much.

First anet introduced some recipe with bloodstone in it as potential goldsink; If I recall correctly the first one was during Tower of nightmare LS 1. This wasn’t a sucess.

Second Anet introduced the Mawdrey crafting as a reward for the the LS2 & it was pretty successful in it’s role.

Then they expanded on the star of gratitude which was also pretty succefull on this.

Now while I farm the silverwaste quite a bit I realized that :
– I really need a dragonite eater.
– But also these two items just can absord how much bloodstone & empyreal fragment I get.

Before silverwaste I was able to feed mawdrey/star & wait 2 days before I can feed them & still keep a decent stock of these. Now I just crawl under them once more.

So it seems fair to me that Anet should reavaluate the amount of T7 consumed by these drain or propose another drain for them.

You just have to farm less, etc….

This is non constructive so please avoid that kind of answer.

tl dr; As you increased the amount of T7 that people can get in Silverwaste; the drain for them aka Mawdrey & star became insufficient.

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

I don’t want any off-hand weapon as a new weapon for any of the specializations. Since that’s only two new skills.

I do hope that specialisation will always come with five skills either as a main hands+off hands or a 2hands weapons but I may be wrong.

To stay on topic; I don’t want rifle for gard.
I would rather go for longbow (azureflame incoming).

BrunoBRS.5178:

Tyler.6182:

http://www.aiondatabase.com/item/101700579/fenris%27s-longbow
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Urgoz%27s_Longbow.jpg
some type of mixture between these two… yes everyone will say we don’t need another plant bow but it wouldn’t be plant it would be wood. actually thats what bugs me about a lot of sylvari/nature themed stuff in the game… its always planty and not tree-like or wooden and branchy as for the other stuff i could care less i just want a bow!

dunno why people like overdesigned futuristic bows, but eh.

but urgoz bow, come on, there are plenty of options already to choose from. here are two.

and hell, there’s this short bow if you really need a bramble bow.

I would really like this futuristic looking bow with some cool added legendary effect.
It would fit really well with the current look of my chaar war in T3 racial.
This is about weapons having theme that fit your character; more choice is better than one choice which is the current problem with legendary ;p

Test.8734:

Actually, poor communities help to cripple games that could have been great. Just take a look at all the grinding content ArenaNet has added to the game because there are a lot of grinders and farmers among the players. Heh, even ascended gear only exists because the community is rather bad.

I don’t get the relationship between grind/farm & bad community ?

Well I want a legendary staff that I don’t find boring & plain; the fact that bifrost have rainbow is over the top.
On a elem I might get it; but for my gardien it just doesn’t fit at all.
I hope the raven staff datamined isn’t the legendary either cos i find it just as boring as bifrost.

That was the best POI ever.
No offense to ruby; i understand that her goal is to keep the show focused but I feel like she try avoid showing stuff too much.
The map & the classe will be available at PAX east So show more of it please.

& by the way: the wyvern at the end was the best.<3

Xenon.4537:

Morsus.5106:

Knighthonor.4061:

This allows the Tanking role to be more effective and useful to the group.

Forgive me if I’m not all that excited for a return to the trinity system.

Drama queen…

Taunt as they describe it is no different from Fear, other than the direction it makes you run.

Can’t wait for the tear of the trinity lovers.

More like “Shamelessly laying dead during a Boss event instead of WP”

sorudo.9054:

a dead player is a dead player, we have ress for a reason.
maybe i am one of the odd balls here but i actually help players get back up, it’s called cooperation, look it up when you feel generous for ones…..

Nope in vinewrath second boss trasher;
– a downed person can be rezzed without too much risk.
– a dead person can’t be rezzed without putting you at high risk with pustule damage, trasher attack & vinewrath special.

I’m all for rezzing downed people if possible but rezzing dead people during a tense fight is just impossible or way to risky for one simple reason; it’s 5 time longer.
That’s the difference.

This discussion is boring. I am really happy that there is no gearcheck in this game.
I played the game since start; I didn’t use zerker gear at first for one simple reason, I wasn’t experienced enough with the mob telegraphs and I was dying without knowing how.
So I started playing with a knight set, I get familiar with more & more content and with the game mechanics.
Now I play almost only with full zerker be it fractal or dungeon but I will never join a gearcheck group.
Simply because what’s I’m wearing is none of your issue.
My point of view is the following; GW2 is a game about skill & knowing the encounter not about what you wear.
When I play with people I expect them :
- Not to die at each encounter.
- Not messing the run by doing stupid thing.
- Know their class & utilities.
- Be nice to each other.

That gearcheck is bad; people (in general) will think that zerker gear or specific class is the only viable gear while having no advanced knowledge in the game.
Meaning:
- More people dying at each fight but hey I have zerk & 8K AP.
- More arbritary kick because: look he didn’t have a zerk chest.
- More kick because: Hey you don’t play the class with this amazing build.

This is the kind of elitism that I really dislike.

Nope don’t want to.

Dawdler.8521:

Miguel V.5203:

I’d love to see what you guys think so please give me some feet back !

I need my feet, sorry.

The “solution” to world completion? That assumes there is a problem to solve. But there is no problem. World completion is a goal on a character like any other. WvW exploration is a bit annoying if you are on an unlucky low tier server but hey what are you playing a game for if not a challenge?

I think there is a problem but it’s more on my personnal taste.
I hate the hearts on the map doing them once is fun & all but having to do them on every character really wears me off.

I have done a 100% map last week and I was so upset about doing these hearts.
I really like to explore map like Orr/ southsun & Drytop as they are heartless.
But all the others map feels like a exploration grind to me.

I would remove the necessity to do the heart in order to have map exploration if it was me as this is me most grindy part of the map completion.