There is basically no difference between OPs two screen shots.
There are in fact.
Now I don’t think the Op is right to ask for a straight DX12 version.
I would like to see a 64 bit exe, higher texture quality & better multithread support for starter.
I would be happy with just that for the moment.
Although what you say may be true, we don’t yet know how long or how difficult completing Hero Challenges in the Heart of Maguuma is. There weren’t any in the betas to compare to those in core Tyria.
Flamethrowing vine in the first beta map. it was SOOOOO hard……..:sarcasm:
Also, you could actually say that hero point in the Heart of Maguuma take hours because you do not only have to do the challenge, you also have to get there and play all the content before it whereas in WvW you don’t have to do anything extra, you just play the normal WvW game and get them instead of having to go out of your way in PvE.
Load of crap:
Get there = crossing the map ignoring everything else <- reach the challenge.
Play the content <- do a hero challenge that take 10 minutes(I take max time).
WvW 5 rank; equal taking a good amount of time & forcing you to compete again other players : 10 hero point.
No, it’s not bad only for raids to have such rewards. How bad it is depends on how difficult the content behind the rewards are locked is, and what rewards are locked this way.
Thus, so far, only 4 cases really stand out. One is legendary armor, one is tournament armor, one is liadri mini, and one is a llama mini.
Of those, i consider a mini to be a more reasonable reward (though i understand that there might be people that will disagree) for this type of content. That leaves a tournament armor (against which i did protest), and a whole category of items locked beyond raids.
If it was just a case of a mini, or some singular unique skins, i might perhaps stomach it. In this case i just can’t stay silent.
So, Raids get picked out, because in their case the problem is the biggest and most visible.
As a mini collector; you are totally right. I still don’t have all the mini llama but they are a desirable effort & just skin.
The legendary armor hidden behind raid is not; I would be cool if there was another legendary set for PvE/WvW/PvP/.. aside from Raid.
How many you need depends on the placement on the unlock track. Since you are expecting to need the full 400 to get the final GM trait anything less would be a bonus to you.
You’re righ on this, but this is still a pain in the kitten .
You are assuming that the GM trait aren’t the last unlock, if they are this still as much stupid.
It’s here the thread for help ?
13 toons lvl 80 at expansion release.
At least I need the specialisation for all those :
2 guards one PvE -one WvW.
2 war one PvE -one WvW.
2 rev one PvE -one WvW
1 ranger PvE
1 engie PvE
2 necros one PvE -one WvW.
1 mesmer pve.
If legendary armor is akin to legendary weapons in that it’s simply a fancy cosmetic with infinite stat conversion then the exclusivity is a minor quality of life difference at worst that already exists.
For all I care, you can have the fancy look for the raid.
But the QoL is major for me, having it locked behind raid is dumb.
How is any of that relevant to my point that legendaries are ascended tier, not a separate tier of their own?
Personally, without the ability to rune switch on the fly, stat switching is not particularly worthwhile to me, but to each his own.
As to gating QoL behind a game mode:
If raiding is considered a separate game mode than PvE then Im going to call legendary weapon crafting separate from PvE, PvP, and WvW. So that gate you ask about has been here since almost the beginning of the game
Legendary are a separate tier of their own: they are the tier that will always mirror the higher gear tier available (currently being ascended).
Legendary as defined by Anet is a QoL gear tier. you invest in it & you are fine for the rest of the game life.
edit: I forgot the rest of your post in nonsensical.
Just answer that :
I can’t find one QoL that have been hide behind a gamemode (if you do have one enligthen me).
It should be ; " I won’t have the skin and the QoL".
That’s my point GW2 is based on skin as reward not gear or QoL.
I can’t find one QoL that have been hide behind a gamemode (if you do have one enligthen me).
Now; a major QoL will be hide behind Raid.
I’m fine with Raid having Amazing cool looking armor to show off.
I’m not with them having cool QoL that are denied to other gamemode player.
Legendaries are ascended tier with a unique skin and a QoL feature, not a tier of their own.
Qol just behind the abilty to swap stats without cost & on the fly.
I don’t see how this can’t be useful….
You can have the skin; I don’t care & you will be able to show off as a raider
The QoL; I do care.
Unique skin and a QoL feature are all that differentiate it.
Qol just behind the abilty to swap stats without cost & on the fly.
I don’t see how this can’t be useful…
You can have the skin; I don’t care & you will be able to show off as a raider
The QoL; I do care.
Let me be clear. I have no problems with there being legendary armor skins for WvW or sPvP, so long as they are mutually exclusive. I do not believe standing around or killing krait for 300 hours is something that should be rewarded. My reasoning why should be just as transparent.
Sorry but that’s kittened up.
Anet added a new system to get legendary weapon that are account bound.
Legendary isn’t just a skin : it’s the last gear tier.
You can’t just block a gear tier behind a raid system to cater to “hardcore PvE”.
GW2 is based on skins as reward.
I would be okay if Raid have some cool looking unique armor with shiny effect as long they are skin and not gear level.
You could show off and not block access to people wanting that gear.
WvW people got changes in HoT. PvP players got changes in HoT. Casual PvE players got changes with fractals in HoT. Now, the players that are “hardcore” PvE can enjoy something a little more challenging instead of playing the game and then moving on due to the lack of challenging endgame content.
So now fractal is casual PvE. The elitism is real.
I know people will say, “hook your pc up to your TV…blah blah..” but that doesn’t work. Even the steam consoles are ropey at best and don’t work anywhere near as well as the consoles.
Kitten !!
What are you on ? They work way better than any console.
.. Other MMOs reward you with better equipment, GW2 can’t do this. They can only award unique skins. If they just hand out achievments hard modes will die after the first clear, so they are not worth the cost…
They actually plan to reward player with precursor armor. So no that’s false.
You can get the same stats via ascended armor and you can change it via the mystic forge.
Also raids will get easier over time when new tactics become popular and when more people clear them more PUGs will appear
Most people who want legendary armor will get it most likely over time, but not near release of the raids
Don’t try to nitpick; the advantage are clear over ascended :
– One set to equip (baring the rune).
– Free swaping on the fly without mystic forge.
For the second point; If they will be made “available” to everyone what’s the point of having an “exclusive access” other that ? Just make the legendary precursor available by others means.
You still have exclusive mini & whateva else to show that you have completed the raid.
Why having special gear is so important to you ?
My friend. The only thing we’re all Entitled to is our opinions. If you want Legendary weapons and armor, you’ll have to earn them, as with everyone else. Anet understood that luxury items should have some prestige to them. So no longer can you get stuff by just going to the TP. Now you have to go forth, and play the game in all its glory!
That’s kitten.
GW2 is based on cosmetic grind. I’m fine with most of the change when it’s come to legendary acquisition, exclusive PvP, Raid skin/mini.
Gears it’s not: especially legendary gear. I would be alright if legendary armor were accessible in other way. Forcing it in Raid is dumb.
Now, you gonna ask me why you should play Raid if there is no special reward ?
You still have shinies in terms of cosmetics. You can show off. You don’t gain anything else. Pretty much like fractal have exclusive skin.
We are not talking about Gear stats gain, we are talking about stat swapin gear which is a pretty great utility in this game that doesn’t encourage gear threadmill.
It’s a kitten shame, really, and I seriously worry that these people won’t be able to enjoy raids simply because there won’t be a meta to follow in them for months after release.
They will proceed as always: they will wait for the DnT guide and then will put LFG for the approved meta raid.
Then you made up an imagined scenario that I can only imagine is a “play how you want” wet dream of “metazerk” lying on the ground.
Not a wet dream when you saw it happening in fractal 50.
Not only did you make up an imaginary wet dream scenario of zerkers dying, but you also made up imaginary fractal tactics. Good job. You’re a credit to your people.
Yeah right it’s not happening; thank you. You talked about hypocrisy ?
id just like to throw out there… this has happened several times sense my OP.
i list a group as “no skipping, no exploits, ‘playing’ content.”
i then have people join the group so say “skipping is not an exploit!” then leave.
this unlists my LFG, and i have to relist. (they’re usually the first guy.)
even when i /w these folks, and say things like, “hey the lfg is optional, and I’m sorry my lfg description ground your gears, but you could have opted to ignore it.” i get sassy replies, or blocked.
so what i keep coming around to, is that we desperately need to have the meta destroyed.
I’m not gonna say, how, or what, specifically should be done, but we need a reason for the “meta” crowd to end up acting like everyone else.
just sayin’.
You need a reason for the meta to be destroyed? Because you don’t want to play like them? You’re a hypocrite. And if they “destroy” the meta, another one will just take its place and within a week you’ll be crying about that one. Grow up.
Meta players are usually the hypocrites. This is how it runs with them; He don’t play meta then he is a noob.
Just constantly seeing Metazerk fractal 50 group with 1 gard/1 war/1 thief/2 ele else kick is just laughable.
The worst is when they spend; their whole kittenin time lying on the ground. But hey they play Meta zerk.
If people want to play meta fine by me but stop being an kitten about it every kittenin time.
Currently enjy the meta thinking in fractal :
Mossman: underwater.
hungerbloom: burst him down.
Mai trin: invisible during whole cannon phase; if died unconnect/reconnect or one stay outside still seeing the boss life bar.
flame & frost: burst down berserker.
Colossus: stay on one upper corner & DPS the boss.
Yes that’s clever use of game mechanics……just kidding.
If I saw a group that was advertised as a casual group without skipping or exploiting (although there isn’t much exploiting these days compared to when I started 3 years ago) I would probably not join and if I did, I would respect that.
Honest question there: Why casual is assimilated with not speed running, etc…
By that I mean take experienced players that do fractal 50 all day long & from time to time they decide to do a YOLO dungeon/fractal just for fun.
How is that casual in any form ?
Anet refuses to add the proper tools to see if people are geared and built correctly so even though AP is a terrible indicator people use what they have because it is still better than nothing at all.
Still useless & waiting in the bank until they decide to make something about it.
I was thinking about buying the pack when I saw the two bank tab but now that I know that these will be wasted money: I won’t.
I don’t do Fractals, i hate the toxicity in the community that plays that content, simply because i roll a ranger and those are speed runs mostly that kick out any player that don’t fit the meta.
That is false: avoid zerk meta group & make your own LFG. problem solved.
If people still kick you: I would simply think that it’s your fault for playing badly.
I doubt there’ll ever be a need for a full defensive geared character however, since that only promotes poor play when there’s action combat. Taunt and kite, evades, blocks/etc will be how you “tank” in GW2.
That, hell yeah to active defense, not that stupid “I have ton kitten of robu/vita mobs can’t kill me”.
Please be a real mac client, please be a real mac client …
[Oh, and to PC fans: our ‘beta’ version (which we have had for years) is NOT a mac client, it is a PC version running on an emulation layer. Emulation is why macs have a bad rep in the gaming community.]
They also have crap GPU for an outrageous cost. Pretty much certain this is why they have a bad reputation when it’s come to gaming.
unless they remove all the boosters and “bonus” items (like instant bank access, trading post tokens, etc..) it’s not worth a single penny.
And what would be in them then? Nothing? Just a 30% chance for a ticket and nothing else? How in the world would that be better, opening one up and getting nothing at all. Maybe the bank accesses, merchants, etc.. don’t have high value but I do use them and I certainly wouldn’t want them taken out and replaced with nothing at all.
in the 3 years i have only got 4 scraps, not full tickets but scraps.
just think for a sec, what do you get when you remove the junk, exactly.
you get ether the scraps or the full tickets, the reason why pretty much everyone uses BL chests.
ANet tried selling weapon skins directly from the gem store with the first set of weapons. The second set was by RNG. Every set after that was by RNG. This tells you that they got more money by selling a chance at a ticket and not by direct sales. Since people like chance better, then the scraps and ticket will remain by chance and not from every chest. The individual person might say they don’t like it but ANet has proven to its satisfaction that the group does, and that chance is where the money is.
I’m not sure that the issue lie there’s.
Eveything sell on the trading post is account bound so exchanging skin is impossible.
So player had to pay a certain amount of gold in a very short amoount of time or pay money for a skin.
With the current system the ticket are account bound & random but the skin are sellable; so people can buy them long after; they are removed from sell by Anet.
The new system is overall better for the economy as you also avoid big gold spike because everyone want that one weapon skin.
As for the testing armor “issue,” I call BS with the fact that (short of logging in to see 100%), the only thing you truly need to put the effort forward to obtain is the insignia/inscription recipes. That’s even more true NOW. Testing new stats? Get the exotic insignias and transform your armor stats. Or hop into HotM and smack things around like I did.
This is true. Only the trinket are locked out like that.
Weapon & armor are easily accesible thanks to the mystic forge recipe.
But don’t the cheevos that unlock the sinister jewelry also give you that piece of jewelry?
Your argument there is why do I need a second set right ?
I have a fair amount of alt. They all have their own set of zerker ring. So I want to do the same thing for Verata/Ventari.
You also have the issue of the infusions either for WvW or fractal, which will require at least 2 sets.
I’m simply saying different items in game are acquired by different means.
And I say this is false and it’s a new trends Anet adopted recently & try to promote more & more.
- Ascended ring were released first in Lost shores update in 11/2012, they were only available in fractal of the mist.
- Ascended Amulet were available at laurel update then were extended later on WvW.
- Accessory were available at guild update when they added recommendation.
At this point they extended Ascended availability to all game mode instead of just fractal.
Next step was the Ascended weapon with the 500 crafter level, followed by ascended armor.
There were only available by crafting. Then they extended the acquisition method once again by allowing you to find Ascended armor/weapon chest in multiple loot: Champ chest/daily fractal chest/etc…..
Now Anet is going back on that by restraining stats to specific aera.This look like a downgrade to me.
You can’t even buy ventari trinket.
My main argument doesn’t make sense? Because you played one part of the game, you should have full access to everything that comes out in the future? I’m not really sure that’s right.
Stop trying to make my point looks like I want to make everything avalaible in any game mode & for free.
My main issue is with acquiring specific ascended gear stats and only that.
GW2 is about horizontal progression (skin). What they are doing currently is spreading gear stats acquisition into specific aera & that I’m against.
I ask for consistent unlock of these gears stats across gamemode that already feature these type of gears.
The game has to have some time and effort required, if A-net just handed everything we wanted to us; when we wanted it; for what we wanted to do for it. The game would get very dull very quick.
Your main counter argument doesn’t make sense because I played the game to be able to change my ascended trinket by accumulating the pristine fractal relic, guild commendation & whatever else was needed for regular ascended item.
These progress are disregarded by Anet changing the rule of acquisition for one type of statistic.
Do it once already bothered me but now it’s a new trend that they are develloping & I’m not happy about it.
For the part of my quote you bolded and underlined, the “I just don’t like…” is more directed at vertical progression style grinds, but picking out parts to put together gives it a different tone, which is not what was intended.
Or you can have said that you disliked "vertical gear grind " in one sentence.
When you put “,” you do make separate point.
I was not a big fan of the addition of a new stat tear when it was announced. I had no issue with the acquisition of it, and I still don’t. I just don’t like the power creep, gear grind, verticle progression.
You spent hours playing a different game mode then how these items are earned. So if you want these items you need to play the game mode that is required, same as everyone else. I really don’t see a problem with that.
So you consider that this is not a “gear grind” at least not for a superior gear level but an alternative stat ?
Ascended overall are a gear grind but for these accessories; they changed it again for another type of grind.
Wait so ascended gear of a certain type isn’t a specific reward? To me, the ascended gear acquired via these methods is a reward for doing the work to earn them.
If it’s just a new stat combo, nope no problem… It would bother me if it were a new gear level. I certainly wouldn’t expect A-net to make it easy to get just because it would be easy for ME to get.
So ascended gear of different stats is no problem when separated like that but new gear level separated like that would bother you ?
So you were bothered by acquiring ascended when they were first announced after exotic ?
Secondly making them easier to get for me; yes right because I already spent hours before playing the other content & gaining money for already existing ascended set.
So yes I could buy them instantly if they were available but BECAUSE I PLAYED THE OTHER GAMEMODE.
So right now I have a new stat gear that just say to me : “nope go grind some more”.
I disagree.
I play : PvE Drytop/ SilverWaste/ dungeon/fractal/WvW.
I have level 50 fractal.
Completed all dungeon path & skin collection.
All of Silverwaste achievment & collection.
Almost all drytop achievement (not doing that horrible weapon collection).
I sit on an enormous amount of pristine relic & co.
While I do want to try Verata/acquire multiple for different purpose (fractal/WvW) I can’t without being locked in a content & having my other play hour being disregarded.
I’m fine with locking some stats behind achievement but not proposing alternative price for them like for all regular ascended stats seems very wrong to me.
But what is easy for you, what you have already done, what you currently have, is where the issue lies. You are requesting a change be made so it is “easier” for you to get with what you have done. Many things are locked behind different tasks, different styles of play, and different game play modes. If you want the reward behind a certain gate, you go through that gate, same as everyone else.
Problem is that this are not specific reward, this is ascended gear acquisition with a different stats.
That what’s bothering me.
Imagine you have a a new crafting profession & new ascended stats that come out & they say to you: “look for the new ascended armor stats, you need to go level that new craft to 500 then you can go craft these new armor with new material that cost 10 laurels a piece.”
Wouldn’t that bother you ?
What I’m saying is okay you can lock some ascended stats behind achievement but at least when you unlock it do it consistently with the other ascended gear already in the game & across all gamemode vendor.
I would still prefer to be able to buy them using the less costly money( from my point of view & gameplay habit).
While I do agree, it would nice to see the asc trinkets available via other methods (more acquisition methods the better), it would be even better to see A-net fix the bugs locking people out of some of the ascended jewelry.
Making a change so it’s easier for you to afford due to your play style isn’t a solid argument for a change in the system. Branch out and play other aspects of the game.
I disagree.
I play : PvE Drytop/ SilverWaste/ dungeon/fractal/WvW.
I have level 50 fractal.
Completed all dungeon path & skin collection.
All of Silverwaste achievment & collection.
Almost all drytop achievement (not doing that horrible weapon collection).
I sit on an enormous amount of pristine relic & co.
While I do want to try Verata/acquire multiple for different purpose (fractal/WvW) I can’t without being locked in a content & having my other play hour being disregarded.
I’m fine with locking some stats behind achievement but not proposing alternative price for them like for all regular ascended stats seems very wrong to me.
Well. We do not know how available HoT will make ascended. For all we know 500 jeweler will come out and you can craft em.
I would still prefer to be able to buy them using the less costly money( from my point of view & gameplay habit).
We would all like for everything to be less costly and tailored to our game habbits but thats impossible to do for everyone. Its not unreasonable to reward special rewards for specific content.
Well you already have to complete the dugeon collection for it then you have to pay a steep price for them.
The right for entry is high enough without having to justify an additionnal very high secondary price point.
