Guild Wars 2

korelg.7862:

psirca.9452:

Why do you want to summon two clones in that if your intention is to build phantasms.
Clones you usually want to break and phantasms do more damage so you don’t want to break them until they have at least used one cycle or were summoned in a bad spot and the enemy has moved. I could see you freeing that slot for the 2 dazes from a mantra.

I think the signet is poo for their health if that’s why you put it on.

If you are going 20 into inspiration you could take restorative mantras instead of phantasms having more health and get more out of it by just changing your main heal to a mantra heal, you would be able to heal your pets, self, and players around you for more than the 20% health that thing gives about every 10 seconds.

When I think of a phantasm build I wonder if you want them to tank or yourself. That can change the way you would build. By saying phantasm based I have to guess that you want them for their damage.

2 clones? why would i summon 2 clones? hmm maybe the calculator showed something that it shouldn’t

i picked 3 signets, Inspiration, Domination and Illusions, and i buff my illusion’s health because my dps depends on having them up as much as i can, i picked the cd reduction for those fight when the boss keeps killing my phantasms

also my build is kinda hybrid, i mainly stack power/crit, but also want some condition, cause those bleeds from the phantasms crits add quite a bit of damage… so thats it, also this build is strictly for PvE, never used it on PvP but i think that it would be ok on WvW, but might want to change the utility skills

My post was for the OP, not yours When I started posting there weren’t any other posts.

For pushing, you move up the line then decoy out to get enough distance to run back to your side.

You can cast the sylvari skill to summon a druid spirit while stealthed or use mantra skill recharging while stealthed without breaking it – keeps someone from targeting you for a planned interrupt if you are channeling something.

Why do you want to summon two clones in that if your intention is to build phantasms.
Clones you usually want to break and phantasms do more damage so you don’t want to break them until they have at least used one cycle or were summoned in a bad spot and the enemy has moved. I could see you freeing that slot for the 2 dazes from a mantra.

I think the signet is poo for their health if that’s why you put it on.

If you are going 20 into inspiration you could take restorative mantras instead of phantasms having more health and get more out of it by just changing your main heal to a mantra heal, you would be able to heal your pets, self, and players around you for more than the 20% health that thing gives about every 10 seconds.

When I think of a phantasm build I wonder if you want them to tank or yourself. That can change the way you would build. By saying phantasm based I have to guess that you want them for their damage.

My toon, my avatar, my character/char, my dude, all the same thing.
I saw it before wow. Not sure the origin but cartoon seems likely.

gabal.4520:

The one thing I hate with jumping puzzles in WvW is that people in it are counting towards the maximum number of invaders that can be present at the map. This weekend we were bleeding all over, defending on 3 towers at same time, losing heavily and somebody would then complain in the chat how everybody should come to jumping puzzle because it is camped. That person isn’t contributing anything to its server and JP should be in it’s own instance at lest in Eternal Battlegrounds where puzzle is completely separated from the rest of the map.
In the mean time people who want to fight are stuck in queue…

Valid point.
If someone talks about the jumping puzzle when I have just been killed over 3 times by groups larger than me I am apt to go off on them or utter outloud – well there’s part of the problem too many kitten kitten kittenfaces out there jumping instead of fighting (Yes I manually made the kittens). They do seem like the slackers when you are losing and they are complaining about being camped.

Am I the only one that actually LIKES the scepter.
I use it all the time with a staff in the other hand.

This is my reasoning.

If I move close, my auto attack on scepter is not bad at all. Even better I have a haste proc so that about every 45s it just rocks! Pew pew pew like crazy.

I use the confusion when kiting around and changing position to continue doing dmg.

I get cripple when something kills my clones, don’t need cripple from a sword.

Vulnerability I get again from traits by shattering the boogers.

The range is much better than the sword so I can start a fight earlier and keep an enemy farther away during one.

Go up to a practice dummy in lions arch, go w/in 130 range as if you had a sword on with a scepter and see how it works, it’s not slow. Every third hit you make the clone so if you want close range you get free shatters vs the sword.

Here, let me put this right here … slides it onto the coffee table. No no, you don’t have to look at it now, just when you get a chance.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Siege-I-d-like-to-see-as-W3-progression/first#post689780

Yeah sort of a bummer when you hear complaints and you say – what about this, would you want that and the next thing you see is these 3 threads day after day.
Badges are too hard to get.
Mesmers and thieves are OP.
Orbs are the problem.

Oh wait, that last one is gone!
:D

We do need more thinkers instead of complainers. Complaints are only worth something if you can offer up some alternatives or some ideas. If you don’t have something with a complaint like that then it is just a complaint. What makes things constructive is the discussion and the brainstorming.

Brainstorm with us people.
Let the game know what you want to make things better.

Stop sharing our mantra secrets with the world lol
I kidd, it is fun to do the healing, I do that in W3 matches a lot.

Let me see if I can find that mantra thread…
here… you will probably enjoy this:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Anyone-else-running-a-Mantra-Build/first#post633204

Ernt. See, you had time warp on your bar and didn’t use it for that first stomp. Your stomp was halfway complete, that means you could have done it different and got the stomp completed. I think with the NPCs involved you were giving them chances to rez off the NPCs dying. Maybe you should AOE less lol

Do I think one person should be able to beat 5 normally? No.

The downed state is fine. It gives us a rollercoaster that is needed in games.

I’d add some stuff, I posted this thread about it but no one wanted to give their ideas too.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Siege-I-d-like-to-see-as-W3-progression/first#post689780

I mean, if we are going to participate, our progression should be opened up when we actually participate. How else to notice that than the tickers that are already there keeping track of most of the things we do. The system is partially in place. Instead of gear being our progression, our progression should naturally come from being more elusive or wiley on the battlefield. A chance to show off our effort over time by someone calling out for a specific titled character to come reinforce some manner of map fighting.

I’d like to see the titles that exist be used for a purpose instead of text. Maybe they could limit them to changing in pvp areas once every 1/2 hour or something. Then we have specialists on the maps but not based on their stats.

The more ppl get to know players, the more we foster community. Surely we want to get to know more people around us than just the names of the commanders. Currently I have 0 incentive to get or wear a title. Since my mesmer clones don’t have them, it just “outs” me as the real person. If they unlocked some specific skill for me on the battlefield, then I have incentive to want and use them.

Titles too wouldn’t mean you had to play a specific profession to feel useful out there when you also had the option to specialize in some way.

You folks posting teams, are you fighting the same teams you were previously?

No co-inky-dink at all.
There isn’t much gear difference in stats from green to orange, I run around in green and know that some wear orange but I just consider those my more challenging fights. One day maybe I will go orange too.

If it weren’t for runes being the prices they are, it would be cheaper for me to just buy my gear when it breaks versus repairing it. If you want to play without runes, that could be a viable playstyle.

Another dungeon misanthrope here. I would not be jumping up and down if I were forced into dungeons. I can do those in that other game and I’m not in that other game by choice. Let me make this completely clear – Dungeons are non-dynamic instance based content that is predictable. W3 is dynamic, ever changing group group strengths and weaknesses that are completely unpredictable (players). Players don’t play by scripts and never will, that’s the appeal, sometimes they spawn 2 adds, sometimes 25 adds. :P

The bigger question is why do we have to learn new information from every outlet except the main site. Can we get press releases before other companies can post information. I can’t watch the twitter, facebook,reddit, and every gaming site on the continent just to get information when I come to the official forum where it should be – first.

Gisei.5749:

Has this been proven? For every type of siege? I’ve had people swear to me that there is no despawn timer, and the rumor is caused by quaggan lightning and sneaky players. Others swear there is.

I mean, has someone sat beside a piece of siege and watched it for 30mins?

I put a ballista on an area next to me with a treb, I’m sure that I didn’t refresh it every 30m. It’s hard anyway to refresh those because you need a target. Anyway I returned to the same battleground after sleep and that ballista was still there. It was on a cliff so it’s not likely that it was in a running view of other players to play with it.

So they say but the other day someone was using a treb and it vanished while they were using it. There is something else going on sometimes that isn’t mentioned. What that is or what triggers it is unknown.

Once, we had a code build hit us and I lost a treb that was built not 10 minutes earlier when I re-entered. Another time there was a code build and all the arrow carts were still there that had been placed down. Again, can’t pin it to anything.

Every time I use siege in a supply camp it’s for a reason.
The enemy focuses on siege before people.
Those are hits not taken by a person.
If you imagine it like paying for another NPC with the perk of being controllable for a short time, then you have the right idea and aren’t as unhappy when they get killed off.

We held off some takeover attempts for hours at Godsword in IOJ with siege but it did cost me 2g to keep dropping it each time they were pushed out. Others bought some too but I didn’t ask what they spent.

I had fun that day using a trebuchet dropping stink bomb cows in the circle while others were below fighting. What also helped us defend though were attentive players that WANTED to help protect a fully upgraded camp. When we called out enemies, ppl showed up. We held it for about 6 hours until finally they sent in the full zerg to take it. It’s possible to defend them but sometimes, yes, numbers can overwhelm anything.

As it pertains to points tho, you get more points killing the dolyaks leaving an enemy camp than you do holding the supply camp. I’m starting to come to a strategic thought that if we don’t need the supply camp, I’m fine with just farming the enemy for more pts. There are always roaming small groups taking supply camps, rarely a time when you need to send a whole zerg.

I see them as there for exactly what happened.
A fun thing to do is to get jumped by more than 1 person, run into enemies, stealth out and let them have the aggro.
They are flavor, they make area effects more dangerous on the space.

Add what you like. This is a thread for imagination.

These are mine that I imagine to be something you could earn over time for W3 participation.

Inspiration: There was a quest I played in the personal story that was me controlling a golem – super fun!
Mini golem spies – teeny tiny golems that are remote controlled.
You can only use them in a place where you have the invulnerable buff.
Using them gives you a view from their eyes for a set amount of time like 10 minutes.
Enemy players can see them, enemy players can kill them.
Golem spies are immune to NPC damage.
Who can apply this – Players wearing the Gogo Dodo Title earned from escorting dolyaks.

Inspiration: All the dyes in the game that already exist.
Dyed siege weapons, pink too.
Laying a coat of paint on the siege weapon will increase the sturdiness of the siege. When this siege is attacked it leaves a paint condition on the player attacking it. When they have the paint condition they must remove the paint occasionally as it clogs up their weapon. After 5 stacks it will turn the siege weapon invulnerable to attacks. This means that players will have to pause and remove their excess paint instead of burning the siege weapon down without any thought. They may also have to tell others that they are debuffing all damage as long as they continue to attack.
Who can apply this – Players wearing the Pretty Painter Title earned by finding unidentified dye in W3.

Inspiration: We have damage, we have healing. Siege only has damage.
Siege weapons that heal other siege weapons when placed in a close radius. These are tiny carpenters like gnomes that tinker around on the siege and slowly repair it but they never repair over 70% because they sleep 23 hours a day and are very tired.
Who can apply this – Players wearing the Quicker Fixer Upper Title earned by building siege weapons, not from reparing gates/walls.

Inspiration: Running supply boredom.
When you pickup supply you can pick it up as a bundle that gives you 70% run speed.
The buff lasts 2 minutes.
To maintain the run buff you must not drop the bundle, dropping the bundle gives you a debuff of 70% run speed for 2 minutes.
When at least half the supply picked up is used, you are no longer subject to the debuff of 70% run speed.
If you die while carrying the bundle, you do not incur the debuff penalty.
The intent is to buff you while running supply, not just running so if you don’t use the supply before the timer reaches for your buff, you incur the run speed debuff.
Who can apply this – Players wearing the Steady Builder Title earned from using supply repairing gates/walls, not from building siege.

Your turn

It’s been said several times in several places.
Sometimes the best way to get those badges is to get a small group together and kill supply camps. The NPCS there drop them and with your small group, you have a good chance to get one as the bags that do drop will be shared with less people.

Just start your own – say, anyone want to take supply camps, meet me at x waypoint and there are always takers. If instead no one wants to go, just start killing enemy dolyaks, usually someone will show up near you and an informal group will begin, odds are you will head toward a supply camp and try.

Oh sure people will tell you to go into the jumping puzzle – yeah 3 hours in and I only got killed 4 times until they started camping the waterfall, just save your energy and do supply camps IMO. The puzzle is impossible on competitive servers.

Edit: lol see someone below me just suggested the jumping puzzle

For anyone concerned about Time Warp on Mesmers.
Doesn’t this guardian skill seem more attractive?

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Zealot%27s_Fervor
Grant fury and quickness to all nearby allies.
Cooldown: 15 seconds
Max number of allied targets: 10
Fury: 10 s (+20% critical chance)
Radius: 1,200
Quickness: 3 s

vs

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Time_Warp
Create an area that warps time, granting you and your allies quickness.
Cooldown: 210 seconds
Quickness: 1 s
Duration: 10 s
Combo Field: Ethereal
Range: 1,200

The guardian one seems so much better, what am I missing?

It could be cast about 12 times as often as time warp for a total of 36 seconds of speed casting versus the 10 seconds of time warp.

I don’t have a guardian to know, do they have this skill? Seems just as powerful, if not more.

Yeah portal is due, it is being abused.
Because it helps move golems and they are squishy I hope that doesn’t change but c’mon, moving 30+ players from one place to another quickly and they don’t have to position on top of each other to avoid aoe dmg hitting only 5 players because the portal neatly puts them on top of each other is reallllly testing the limits of “strategy” with it and turning it into easy mode. You lag out your enemy too because they have incoming messages of 30+ people instantly attacking them so they can’t even use their heals most times until those messages catch up. That’s almost like a DDOS.

I’ve even had people portal in to kill me all alone. Ok, I’m good sometimes but that’s just being rude. You don’t need over 15 ppl to kill just me. People don’t use it for special occasions, they use it all the time now in the high tier pvp. Not cool.

It’s probably W3 encouraging the change.

All of us that picked up mesmer because we like the skills don’t want to be labeled a flavor of the month profession either so if all you think of my mesmer as is “the person with portal and time warp”, I’m content with changing that.

I don’t think that it needs more health.
I tested it’s health tonight and it was around 10k.

Took it to Orr and let a condition hit tick on it from those big balls that shoot out green spit.
Got 38 times counted at 269 damage for each tick.

My mesmer pets don’t even hit 3k health and some get one shotted. Ettins are notorious for one-shotting pets. I can have a total of 3 out at a time. That is easy to see with a mesmer, take it to an ettin if you think you have it buffed. When I compare it to my pets, roughly it has the health of all 3 of mine combined or more. Some people think pets only have 2k health.

This druid was stronger because of the larger health pool.
It can tank a LOT better and I was able to heal it.
The CD seems long but when I think about that it lasts 60 seconds and has a 240 second CD, that means it could be up 240/60=4 So that means it can be up 25% of your playtime barring being killed by enemies but all pets suffer that.

My concern would be that you can’t move while casting it. You can’t even TURN your character to look around you while casting it. If you do either of those, the CD of 5 seconds or so starts and the skill stops casting. That is a big problem since it limits you from being mobile.

What I was testing was a condition and I was standing right next to it, I never saw it remove mine or its or I would not have been able to count the ticks on it. I did get a regeneration buff sometimes but it always said me as the source, not the druid but I think it put it on me.

I did but I averaged 3 viewers the last month so I don’t do it much now.

Sort of boring to sit there for hours exposing yourself and reducing your game upload speed just to have people not find you because the only thing twitch advertises are the people making them money. Lots of times people don’t talk when they join but just watch, gets a little creepy when you are talking and they don’t.

Then they have the nerve to roll random ads on your channel because they oversold the people that make money from them, oh but when they run an ad on your channel you don’t get paid like others. They openly said it on their forum, if they oversold you never know when an ad will hit your channel. So you could be doing anything crucial and BAM – AD. Answering a question BAM – AD. Saying you are going AFK BAM – AD. House on fire BAM – AD.
I had anywhere from 15-60 viewers but once they took out paging – someone has to click “more” about 75 times to find my channel, so they don’t and my viewers have went down to mostly people that had me on follow coming in an out to chat some but at least 4 of them don’t even like mmos, we just had similar personalities.

The guy that bangs his head on a keyboard until it bleeds and makes fun of women gets partnered and 2k+ views though. That’s grand. They say too that partners aren’t supposed to use copyrighted music. Go look, 80% of their largest viewer counts are just ppl playing to copyrighted popular music or dubstep and they don’t say anything, not about their gameplay or tactics.

You might check own3d, been thinking it seems to be more low viewer friendly.
I used to broadcast on Xfire too, they don’t usually have many live things but you could check.

Use a lot of them.
The oils and stones not as much because they disappear on death.
Food I use health per second, toughness , magic find, dmg while moving, +endurance.
I pretty much make whatever suits me that moment depending on what I go out there to do.

As a side note, I tested oils once, they don’t buff your power, they buff your precision. Only the lowest level oil says precision on the tooltip. To get the power buff you have to use sharpening stones. No worries because you can’t use both at once but I don’t think everyone knows and just believes the tooltip that your power is being buffed. You can watch your stats change though and see that it’s not power that changes.

Oy, trays cost around 5g in vendor mats to make the recipe last I saw due to that wine.
You saying you sold enough to make your money back?

iorlas.6721:

Mesmer also has – Desperate Decoy…Cloak and leave a clone at 25% health.The Prestige..Dissapear in a cloud of smoke reappear 3 seconds later…

Just to clarify deperate decoy doesn’t proc until about 10% health even though it says 25%.

Omnomberry items can sell. You are of course competing with lots of people so it is what it is.

Some other things sell more slowly for people testing buffs but omnomberry is a funny name so people are used to typing it in.

Sora Shadow.9160:

I dont know why some SOS players were still using flying hack to take out our IOJ BL garrison within 2 minutes. I was in the garrison, then saw a doggy SOS commander with some zegs instantly on the wall. Report them with “botting” (cheating), however in the dead angle cant do much. Just want to say, already lead the way, dont need to be greedy fellows.

They probably just climbed the wall and ported in/or not. There is a video on it that shows how to do it without breaking one wall or gate. Garrison is quite vulnerable with this thing out there. I tried twice in two battlegrounds IOJ to ask if anyone saw the video, they completely ignored it. At least with the video you would see places that people might route and setup manned siege near it. Without even glancing, well…
You seem like an interested person.
This is the thread with the video.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/dang-how-can-he-get-there/first#post658217

I haven’t seen one crit from a direct heal. I have one that I can cast about every 7 seconds that heals anyone around me so I have seen lots of heals hit lots of people.

Not sure if the boon heals are different because they trickle health over time but I’m certain that as many times as I’ve seen those direct heal numbers, they never go over 2700ish. Same with food that heals, it always ticks a consistent number.

I don’t think it does crit.

Yougottawanna.7420:

If I were Anet I would want to push WvW and expand it. The fundamental problem of MMOs (or at least one of them) is that no dev team can possibly create content as fast as players can play it. So the closest thing is to turn the grind up to 11 – for example the legendary weapon grind.

But PvP, and particularly mass PvP, is different – players in essence create their own content. Take EVE for an example, the “endgame” (at least the pvp one) is essentially crafted by the intrigue created by the playerbase. Now WvW is not exactly like EVE but there are similarities.

So I hope Anet devotes time to WvW. Spvp may pan out the way they want it and it may not, but in the meantime there’s so much untapped potential in WvW, they should be trying to tap it.

Indeed, it is impossible for developers to keep up with content demand.
I would like to see more move toward player created content instead of more grinding. Grinding we recognize but user created content is what made sites like social media take off, the users create the content, the site only gives them ways to categorize it. What has been learned on websites can be ported to games instead of devs constantly going back to the easy route of “make it rarer, make it harder, level slower, add more dungeons” (parody of daft punk). That is what lots of devs seem to be thinking because that’s what they offer. This game should be above that.

I was thinking about something. I don’t get my world bonuses for W3. Now, I’m not the only one. What I wonder though is the impact it has on fights. Currently my server is doing pretty average. Admittedly low for our tier, we are bottom place.

We only have +6% health increase and +6% healing but as mentioned I don’t get it. As the match goes longer the % should increase because the team has made more points. There is no way to tell if my enemy is getting them or not on their side. I guess I wonder how widespread the problem is and if people try to fight early in the week instead of later in the week because they know that they aren’t getting all the perks they should be getting.

It reminds me a little of orbs being removed, they were stat buffs and these are stat buffs (and the best kind, percentages mmmm). They wouldn’t hit those higher numbers like 15% until about mid week but could be the difference in life and death. How many times I’ve ran away with less than 500 health is something I couldn’t even count. Had I taken one more hit it could have been over, with that bonus should I have been able to take 3 more hits, even 6% for my health pool is another 1k+ health that I don’t get. If I don’t get 1k and my enemy gets 1k then I have to work harder to kill them while they work less to kill me.

Has anyone pondered it or is it just me? Do you intentionally play earlier in the week because you aren’t getting bonuses or do you know you get bonuses and play anytime you like? Do they even cross your mind?

I got infracted but had no clue that you couldn’t talk about other games on this forum.
It was part of why I had opinions on the topic and when I responded, it came in as an infraction then said it was because I talked about other games then said the post I responded to was deleted.

I don’t think all the mods follow the same rules. I even reread the Code of Conduct to see if I just missed it but there was nothing that said don’t talk about other games.

Like you I suppose it will just go away in time but I’m not sure if I got caught up because I responded to the other person or if they really meant to target what I typed about.

Oh no, I just got another infraction for saying thanks to someone, guess you can’t admit you are bumping a thread that had lots of research but no responses. That one at least is in the rules. This is going to be hard to keep up with. If I end up banned can I still play the game lol I am not good at these forums so far.

Is that what was killing me! I never knew there was a constant bleed on someone when downed.
It coincided with Mind Blast, I thought the thing was bugged and hitting me too…
Thanks for the information.

Please, try downed state before you judge it.
I have played it for months now.
This is what happens daily.

I go down, skills 3 and 4 are on cooldown, ok my options are to move my corpse a few feet or auto attack someone and it uses my health too to attack them. Now, for some reason I no longer have a target, ok let me tab around and find someone, oh they are behind me, let me move my screen view around, then click them and….

Try to move away, they stomp you and it kills you because you didn’t port far enough away, the stomp still hit.

Try to use your auto attack, you kill yourself trying to kill them. It literally takes your health for every hit you make. Go look at it.

That downed state is horrible, just bad. I mean I never ever ever hope to pull myself up with it. The only time I ever come up from it is on pve mobs.

I have had players stomp me so fast that I don’t even get my UI to show up before it’s over.

You probably think it is exaggeration but I play it everyday – our downed state has never worked for me well at all, not in DPS gear and not in toughness gear. I don’t even try in downed sometimes because I have so little belief that it ever works. I just stare and know I’m dead.

Mesmers may have some things going for them but downed state sure isn’t one of them. Maybe you caught a fluke but I ask you just to make a lvl 1 mesmer, go fight heart of the mists mobs and try the options then tell me if you can get up all the time or even 1/20 times, I dare you to test this green green grass on this side of the hill.

One of the basics is to look for times to make a profit.
If you know something sells and someone puts it up (or enough put it up that you can buy it out) for less than a 15% difference, that is one way to make a profit.

I don’t think people are going to be too open about the methods they use, if they tell everyone then everyone will be competing with them. For that reason I give you the 15% which is fairly simple and nothing complicated or something I would consider no huge secret so run with it

You can try for buying bags too if you like opening things. You won’t know what you will get but they have the chances a lot of times to drop crafting items. That might mean you have to sell what you don’t use but it may recover some cost if you had a lucky streak. Oh, I’m not sure why but I thought oozes seemed to give me lots of crafting materials, if I were to go back, I would hit those oozes like crazy in the Asura homelands.

Yeah avoid anything, as mentioned, no star, no title, not even those weapon procs that sit on your character bar in stacks up to 25. Any of them could distinguish you from a clone.

Magimay you have never addressed anything I typed with a logical response to the subject.
You are the eternal subject switcher and becoming blissfully nonsensical as you continue.

I compared consumables from one craft to consumables of another craft marking clear differences and all you can think of in response is something about gear having 50 slots. Since when can someone use 50 food items at once, weak weak arguments. I compared oranges to oranges and you compare bokchoy to a pepsi can. You mean someone upgrades their gear over time like they change food over time! The heresy of it all.

Don’t try to troll me.
Next time you post to me I will consider it instigation and I lost my patience with you yesterday because your ears are plugged – why I don’t know but it’s not my intention to find out. I gave you lots of chances to comprehend the situation and explained it then tried again and again. It’s over.

I too saw only PRX in IOJ all weekend.
We even made jokes about it that you weren’t sos but prx.
The only reason it was noted was because ppl started calling out guilds (because someone asked) with how many enemies they saw.

Auvic.5679:

Why can’t I eat my pants and gain 30% magic find?

That’s cute but your pants last forever. Crafted food lasts between 30m – 1 hr.

Gear is forever, food isn’t and even other buffs that aren’t forever like maintenance oils, potions, and sharpening stones all have vendor prices. They aren’t made by cooks either.

Cooks aren’t the only crafters making consumables, just the only crafters not able to vendor them.

Other crafts make consumables and they all have a vendor cost, there is no reason for food to be treated differently. It wasn’t planned that way and it does not need to be that way. It was only changed to deal with the karma issues that have now been resolved by other patches.

There were recipes you could discover and some that were recipe only.
From what I’ve noticed, recipes you buy are not discovered by accident, you always have to buy the recipe itself. I don’t expect that you could discover them after the event.
I can give you the ingredients I have for any of them that you don’t and tell you the discovery materials if you want to try. I discovered all of them and bought all the recipes. What I don’t remember now is which were which for most of them.

Bowl of Candy corn glaze – def. discovered , starch, water, candy corn
Omnomberry ghost – omnomberry,chocolate,candy corn glaze
Spicy pumpkin cookies – cookie dough, ghost pepper, candy corn glaze, pumpkin pie filling
Glazed pumpkin pies – def. discovered, pumpkin pie filling, ball of dough, candy corn glaze
Piece of candy corn almond brittle – almond, sugar,candy corn
Candy corn cookie – cookie dough, candy corn
Strawberry ghost – strawberry, chocolate, candy corn glaze
Candy corn cake – bakers dry, candy corn, bakers wet, candy corn glaze
Bowl of candy corn custard – egg, candy corn, buttermilk, vanilla

Think I have them all listed, you can test any you don’t have to confirm if recipes are needed.

I tried going naked to signify that.
It only got me killed 4 times.

After 2 hours I never got anywhere anyway and was beating my keyboard so yeah I think I have to still pay money for my siege, the best I got was dropping down the hole then 2 over. I was tired of falling and gave up.

All the time I took I could have been in a safer place not wasting a pvp spot.

There is a buggy wug with them anyway.
Not all of us get them.
I don’t. You might check if you even get them, if you don’t then it might answer your Q.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Bugged-World-Bonuses/first

Are you stomping, it may be my imagination but I always seem to get more loot bags in general stomping.

Supply camps can drop them too, going around with about 3 people will give you better odds too instead of zerging. You don’t have to look for 2 other people, you find each other roaming around that camp, if you see green around, tap the supply camp and let them know you want to try. They usually come right over.

Overall, yes, the drop rate is horrendously low. I can cite the two times I’m sure I’ve got the badges though.

“The part I still don’t understand is…why on Earth do you want to craft worthless items to vendor at a loss? How is having that option in any way appealing to you?!”

Your question is – why don’t I want to make 1 copper to 20 copper (guessing what the prices were ) for each item I craft to the vendor that doesn’t sell for the 25copper I think that it’s worth on the trading post if noone is buying it? This is obvious to me, I want the same “out” every other crafter has, I want to be able to vendor what doesn’t sell.

I may be done with cooking but there are still other people leveling it, they have product all the time extra, shouldn’t they be allowed to vendor it like any other crafter can?

It’s not like this effect can’t hit the top level food either, as long as people refuse to buy it until people sell it at 1 copper, they can push down the price themselves. No one can do that to any of the other crafted items, the wool gear I made recently on my tailor sold to the vendor for almost 1 silver a piece, no player could cheat me out of recouping some of the cost. I had 2 directions to sell and one was guaranteed (vendor). With food having no vendor price, other players can cheat other players out of the vendor cost because there is none and there is no second outlet to sell it (vendor). Instead you have to take a complete loss and destroy it. It doesn’t even have to be intentional, that’s why I cited grape pie as an example. Yes players undercut each other intentionally but they did that because they didn’t want to wait for thousands to sell just to sell their one or two. How does any other crafter deal with that, they vendor the goods and say, that doesn’t make any profit, I won’t make it intentionally in future. That is missing from cooking right now. Then when someone does decide to stock a grape pie for low level characters… there aren’t 20K of them there.

Explain how the price could recover from what it is now? Do we even have enough bag space to hold 20 k + grape pies if we wanted to try to bring the price to something better? This is a logistic problem that will only get worse as more piles up.

That’s pretty rotten. If it says rare, you should get a rare dye, no RNG involved.

One copper would not be realistic.
Like every other crafting item, the price should scale as the item increases in tier.
A carrot should not sell for the same price as vanilla though both are harvested.
Carrots have their own spawns, vanilla shares its spawn with other items so is more rare. The products of those items should have varying vendor costs.

Account bound ingredients are usually karma purchased, they don’t require a price to sell to a vendor or you could directly convert karma to cash.

Magimay, easiest way to explain to you that the reason grape pies are worthless is because no one can vendor them so they undercut until the price reaches 1 copper. I am not trying to make grape pies at lvl 80 to sell but just like every other crafter I should be allowed to try to sell lower level items if people will buy them, if they won’t, I would vendor them and lose money. Without vendoring, you can’t lose money you just lose it all. Since no other crafts are subject to this and the game did not ship without a vendor price on food, I don’t think they intended it to be this way. They only wanted to stop people from using food to trade cash for karma. People have asked for lots of things so this probably is a low priority but not still on my mind that it needs some resolution eventually.

Lots of items were taken off the karma vendor making them slower to get or require money to purchase.
That’s why I asked for the review – things changed in cooking and the price has not been added back in since the karma issue has been taken care of.

Mystfit.8309:

According to wiki: Nrocroc Chief in Apostate Wastes, Fireheart Rise for 154 karma
but I’m here in front of him and he sells horseradish. So. where do I need to be?

Intrigued… I have a list of all the vendors and that’s who I have listed too.
These were post-food patch.

Horseradish I have as Laudren – N of Thundertroll Swamp (sparkflyfen) 112 karma
Edit: Laudren still only sells Horseradish, traveled to check

Edit-edit: I do see Peaches in Bulk for sale on the chief, they are under mithril logging axe and above necrocroc axe :P If you don’t have them, might have to bug because I see them.

I don’t like any of these ideas. Not going to blast you on them but no is my feedback.

Well that would have to be something they deal with.
They were the ones that took away the vendor price and made this issue.
A resolution would be let those all vendor out as they should have the first time.
I wouldn’t tell ppl ahead of time so that they would stockpile it – they didn’t tell ppl ahead of time anyway when they took away the food price, you just logged in and it was gone, that’s par for the course.

This is the result of a change they made and I don’t think it will fix itself. The point is really that it is becoming a snowball, for any foods not in constant demand, I predict they will all eventually fall to 1 copper. We saw candy corn drop daily in price because of the overstock, it’s natural that when people can’t vendor an item they try to use the trading post.