well, defining “competitive” can be quite subjective, if you are referring to switching back to BG to be “competitive” in Tier 1, sure… But if you were on the receiving end of BG’s force while on TC and decided to go back to BG, I am not sure how you can call it being competitive. Isnt it always “fun” when you end up being in first place, at least in Tier 2? It sure is
Actually, I probably only played two, maybe three days max against BG. The rest of the time I was on Kaineng finishing my 100% World Completion and doing karma trains since they wipe all BL’s and EB right now, in order to help get my legendary.
But what I stated is why I switched back. Not the fact that BG is winning in tier 2 but the fact they are in a much much better position regarding recruitment than TC.
Sure, BG may lose in tier 1 and that’ll still be fine with me. If i wanted to join the “top” server, than I would have gone SoS.
I definitely can agree with BG’s recruitment effort, it’s top notch. I see a lot of SoR recruitment threads in here and the guild forum, but I still haven’t see any difference in getting new guilds moving over to fill our Oceanic/Asia time zone coverage.
Sanctum of Rall
Pain Train Choo [Choo]
Mind Smack – Mesmer
Well, currently Kaineng is on its way up to the top althought it may be boring for a few weeks as you completely obliterate the other two servers.
Blackgates overnight crew is amazing and we could always use more help during NA primetime.
Ah so you left TC for Blackgate?
I did. It was my original home anyway. BG to TC than back to BG.
No hard feelings towards TC. I love TC’s community and love the guild I was in (PiNK).
I am just a competitive person. BG is in a much better position than TC is regarding transfers. TC is a near full server needing A LOT more overnight coverage. BG is a near full server just needing more people during NA primetime. Which one is likely to fill their coverage? I just didn’t see whole guilds risk transferring to a near full server such as TC for overnight coveage, and that is what you guys need.
Sorry.I play the game to have fun. And I am having fun already on BG.
well, defining “competitive” can be quite subjective, if you are referring to switching back to BG to be “competitive” in Tier 1, sure… But if you were on the receiving end of BG’s force while on TC and decided to go back to BG, I am not sure how you can call it being competitive. Isnt it always “fun” when you end up being in first place, at least in Tier 2? It sure is
Sanctum of Rall
Pain Train Choo [Choo]
Mind Smack – Mesmer
Well I went to Sanctum of Rall and it was all good for the last 2 days of the matchup. Then the current matchup started and we are severely out-manned. I was told two of the largest WvW guilds left.
Our team was basically being camped at the spawn, no leadership at all. So I’m going to be switching again, as being spawn camped is definitely NOT fun.
I have a feeling you were in EB (for some reason many of the better commanders of SoR avoid it like a plague), and possibly not playing during NA prime time. Like other CHOO guys recommended, you should check out where they are and feel the difference by following them, you cant go wrong with those guys. Also try to get SoR server teamspeak, Choo and most other active WvW communicate quite well in it so you would know where you should be. Lastly, BG is moving up to Tier 1 this week, you really should give SoR one more week before you decide to move again.
Sanctum of Rall
Pain Train Choo [Choo]
Mind Smack – Mesmer
If the issue is portal (i.e. keep the mesmer slow so they can’t get portals up faster for the group), then remove portal. It generates a lot of complaints anway.
Turn portal into a mass “blink” like Spear #4 skill (line on the ground that propels you forward when crossed).
Then give us a 25% passive like everyone else.
I would love that, as much as I like WvW, it would be nice to be not designated as portal slaves all the time.
Sanctum of Rall
Pain Train Choo [Choo]
Mind Smack – Mesmer
I wish I still had my Centaur Runes, I was sold on the hype of Air Runes, but the speed difference is huge (yes I understand the trade off for more dmg). Now I carry sword/focus set just to make up the difference…
Sanctum of Rall
Pain Train Choo [Choo]
Mind Smack – Mesmer
just curious for all the GS mesmers, what weapons are you using for swap set and why?
In pvp – Sword/focus. Focus 4 is a strictly better disable (knockdown/stun) and a position manipulator than pistol 5. Longer range (900 cast range on both, but curtains pull is ~600 range, making the effective range of your stun/yank/knockdown/interrupt 1500 range) and a free escape/kill based on the geography (walls, cliffs) on where you’re fighting. The swiftness/slow doesn’t even matter. You should not use this ability for swiftness/slow 99% of the time in combat.
Then we come to pistol 4 vs focus 5. This is the berserker shatter thread, so pistol is just not good. The power coefficient is terrible on pistol 4, and if you’re running the spec in the title, you don’t have the pistol trait to abuse the finisher bug (if it still exists?) Pistol is better for condition or low power builds, but focus scales so much better with a power/crit build.
Focus 5 takes time to learn to use, but you can either use it as a deterrent to entering an area, force someone out of an area, or you can learn to combo with either sword 3, focus 4, or both. One you learn yank ranges on focus 4, stopping what someone is trying to do and forcing them to be yanked into a focus 5 while rooted with a sword 3 and an optional sword 2 will not only stop them from what they’re trying to do, but it forces them to burn one or two utilities.
Offensively and defensively, focus takes more work but gets far more results than pistol.
hi Pinko,
thanks for the reply, it’s great that you explained it so well, because it seems most people just think sword/focus is not great and mostly used for swiftness buff.
Currently I am experimenting GS with staff, but some people are telling me the synergy is not there (but some claim it works well). I will invest in sword / focus if I am not effecive with the staff. Btw, what runes / sigils are you using on your weapons and armor?
Sanctum of Rall
Pain Train Choo [Choo]
Mind Smack – Mesmer
these guys might be relatively new compared to other SoR WvW guilds, but their members always show up for great battles, help support SoR in tier 2 dominance and check these guys out if you are looking for a guild!
Sanctum of Rall
Pain Train Choo [Choo]
Mind Smack – Mesmer
Blackgate most likely will be moving to Tier 1 next week, come join SoR to help us fight for the top spot in Tier 2 and pave the way to get into Tier 1!
Sanctum of Rall
Pain Train Choo [Choo]
Mind Smack – Mesmer
I will be hitting 80 soon and I am seeking input from experienced mesmers on what would be the ideal swap weapon set for doing mostly WvW with some PvE dungeons. My main weapon will be GS.
I dont think I can afford multiple sets, and most of my play times will be in WvW, and rest of the time doing dailies / gathering / some dungeon runs I will be using the centaur runes for speed buffs on my armor set. By nature I am not a solo roamer, I tend to travel with small groups or follow a zerg, so of all the possible weapons considered for the swap set, can anyone provide pros and cons?
Sanctum of Rall
Pain Train Choo [Choo]
Mind Smack – Mesmer
In WvW, I find S/D pretty decent. Ive run it 90% of the time for hte last 2 months.
Spec 10/30/30/0/0
Bersker armor + divinities (rubys worked too)
Sigil of paralyzation (3 second daze)
Sigil of Rage (haste) + traited for haste on crit.
Alt weaponset with 2 x sigil of perception, builds stacks very quick
Tactikal strike has 1.5s daze and Sigil of paralyzation increase STUN duration no DAZE.
He is talking about WvW, which is under PvE rules. So it’s a 2 second daze.
Boosts to stun duration apparently also apply to Daze duration.
Equipping a Superior Sigil of Paralyzation makes Tactical Strike a 3 second daze (should be 2.3 seconds, but it apparently rounds up – you can check this yourself, the sigils are dirt cheap).
It is unwise to completely trust tool-tips.
yep,
this is 100% correct. I have 2 swords, one with Superior Sigil of Paralyzation and another with +5% dmg with off-hand dagger with Sigil of fire. This definitely works in WvW.
Sanctum of Rall
Pain Train Choo [Choo]
Mind Smack – Mesmer
I’ve been running S/D with short bow, this really gives me a new horizon to try it out with D/D as the swap. Do you guys swap out the 20% to enemy with 50% health for the 100% crit out of stealth trait?
Sanctum of Rall
Pain Train Choo [Choo]
Mind Smack – Mesmer
and yet people are clamoring for the scavenger hunt for an easy precursor… I’d say the price would hit 10g a piece of they implemented the welfare legendary system.
Sanctum of Rall
Pain Train Choo [Choo]
Mind Smack – Mesmer
Priority should go to Scavenger Hunt/another way to get a precursor.
and then the current materials will go even higher in price? Charged lodestones at 10g a piece? No thanks. And if you think Anet will make a welfare system for everyone get an easy precursor without considering how that will impact the current cost of the materials you are kidding yourselves.
I honestly think there might be new legendaries if they make the scavenger hunt, as those will offer the crappier legendaries, as it should be given it’s easy access to get a precursor.
Sanctum of Rall
Pain Train Choo [Choo]
Mind Smack – Mesmer
leveling my mesmer and definitely prefer GS over staff, how do this build fare in Wv3?
It is OK, but you are fairly fragile. I prefer to use Mass Invisibility as elite in Wv3 and stay in second line with this build. If you are into dueling, look at Osicat Shatter Cat build over here:
thanks for the quick reply, I really prefer the GS as main weapon, but since I am new to the Mesmer community, is Osicat’s build the cookie-cutter build to succeed in Wv3? I swear I see more GS mesmers running around in Wv3 than staff mesmers…
Sanctum of Rall
Pain Train Choo [Choo]
Mind Smack – Mesmer
That’s not the point of my post at all – Tactical strike is just as hard to pull off as backstab, why not make them different-but-equal?
If ANet feels the initial daze time was too long, there’s a ton of ways to buff the skill that makes it different than backstab but just as effective.
1.) Add some additional conditions – Have tactical strike also weaken, poison or cripple the target.
2.) Grant boons on successful use – If ANet wants to keep S/D damage as low as it is, we’ll need the actual tools to play an attrition style build. Have Tac strike give Protection/Regen to the thief when used from the back arc.
3) Strip boons – Have the ability remove 1 boon when used from the front arc, and 3 when used from the back.
Any of these abilities (in addition to the daze) would make Tac strike a more effective skill (probably – of course playtesting would be required)
I like these suggestions, Sword skills really need some love. I started with D/D but switched over to S/D with a more dodgy/tanky build, but S/D is not nearly as useless as you think in WvW situations.
Sanctum of Rall
Pain Train Choo [Choo]
Mind Smack – Mesmer
In order to shut up all PvE haters out there: Remove the Gift of Battle as req for legendaries (500 Badges of Honor, thus making people who PvE for it come into WvW).
sure, I can agree with that if they remove the 500 dungeon tokens requirement as well…
Sanctum of Rall
Pain Train Choo [Choo]
Mind Smack – Mesmer
do people realize how much the materials for other parts of the legendaries will skyrocket to once this scavage hunt (aka legendary welfare program) is implemented? Be careful what you wishful, but I guess people just assume they can continue to whine and complain til it’s zero effort to get a legendary…
Sanctum of Rall
Pain Train Choo [Choo]
Mind Smack – Mesmer
Come on GW2 team this is dumb.. some players do not like WvW or PvP.. yet for us to get our legendary you require us to do this, WvW is flat out boring and the drop rate of a badge is dumb. I kill numerous people and seems like I get a badge 1 out of every 7 players vanished. At least let us earn badges in real PvP or something instead of Zerg WvW or please consider in the future an alternative to the badges.
same can be said for those that prefers PvP or WvW over PvE, why should those people be screwed and yet you want a free pass to be able to skip to work on this part of the legendary requirement?
Sanctum of Rall
Pain Train Choo [Choo]
Mind Smack – Mesmer
The fact is, this is competitive PvP, and logic and good sportsmanship doesn’t always prevail. When you win my a little you lack skill and don’t have what it takes. When you win by a lot you’re nothing but a huge mindless zerg and only win because of greater numbers (duh). There’s always a reason that seeks to make your team look better than your opponent. It’s human nature. The ugly side of it.
I am not so sure that is fair when it comes to this game. I honestly have no idea if BG is a mindless zerg or skilled players outside of my play time. Aside from a couple of guilds, being frank, the BG I do fight typically get outmanuvered and seem to fold under hard pushes, BUT they are competitive and good opponents.
What I don’t get is the need to chest thump about the scoreboard when the reality is that at 10am eastern time in the morning on most days, there are a whopping 15 people across all the WvW zones from SoR. That is why I log out at night with a large PPT advantage and by midday the next day BG is ticking away at over 500.
It isn’t the fact that you have better coverage that is getting you hate on the boards. It is the chest beating that is done because of that better coverage. Of course people are going to get defensive about it and point it out to you, because it is the reality of the situation. We all know it.
a very nice post that explain the hate the BG gets, good job dude.
Sanctum of Rall
Pain Train Choo [Choo]
Mind Smack – Mesmer
I’d like to see a trait that boost sword dmg, currently there are skills that do that for pistols and daggers, it’s only fair sword gets some love too.
Sanctum of Rall
Pain Train Choo [Choo]
Mind Smack – Mesmer
fix the current match up. 3rd place gets dropped down a tier, first place moves up a tier. That way we dont have scenarios of fighting the same server week after week.
Sanctum of Rall
Pain Train Choo [Choo]
Mind Smack – Mesmer
We are not going to pull out of TC BL and fight BG on two fronts. That would be a disservice to a quality opponent. If BG blows us out so be it, they earned their shot at Tier 1 weeks ago.
You got the right to do whatever you want, ofcourse.
But the result is very, very simple: you are fighting one enemy with half your force and another enemy with the other half. Instead of fighting one enemy with your whole force.
The result can be seen in the score: BG wins 33,000 ranking points and SoR looses 27,000 ranking points. This result will stay that way untill we fight differently.
A lot of SoR is still on vacation/break. I’m sure TC is having the same issue as well. We have been playing with 50-75% less of our usual forces this week and the score shows it.
I’ve been pretty sick as well so I haven’t really been able to duke it out on the battlefield.
Happy New Years to all nonetheless.
While a lot of guilds are missing many players, the overall server population in WvW actually seems higher right now on SoR. Last night there were queues for all borderlands (5 mins for the BL that I went onto, but still a queue). Ironically, there was no queue for EB. I think the difference in score is more of a difference in the number of organized players in the game, rather than a difference in the overall population.
Even with people on vacation, BG still have more active people in WvW than us, but I will agree on the organized player issue that you mentioned. For example, tonight at 6:30PM EST in EB, a handful of SoR is running around trying to fight BGs that captured 3 objectives within 20 min. What activity was done by only commander in the zone? Leading 20+ SoR players killing the giant Grub. COmmander name is Nidircc, with commander and those other players that followed him, who needs enemies to take over our towers and camps?
Sanctum of Rall
Pain Train Choo [Choo]
Mind Smack – Mesmer
Just had another guild-group of 6 bg players glitch into Dawns on SoR bl. It would be nice if arenanet took care of these apparently well-known glitches. All it does is make servers angry at each other.
All it does is add insult to injury when the server with more population and time zone coverage have people doinn these things, i guess the end justifies the means, eh?
Sanctum of Rall
Pain Train Choo [Choo]
Mind Smack – Mesmer
seems some people have better luck than I am. I just went through 220 Obsidian shards (temple opened up on my server I just had to jump on it), and only got 61 out of it. definitely not in the 30% range for me, sigh.
Sanctum of Rall
Pain Train Choo [Choo]
Mind Smack – Mesmer
.I play the game to have fun. And I am having fun already on BG.