Pain Train Choo [Choo]
Mind Smack – Mesmer
I’ve gotten all my skins from that “tier” and no skins from 30+ or 40+.
I usually see more skin drops on 20-28 than on 30-38.
RNG is RNG. That doesn’t make the chances from 20-28 any less garbage, it just means that you’re particularly lucky. Players should still strive to hit 40-48 and only run those because the chance is significantly better.
is that what Anet has stated regarding the RNG for fractal weapon skins, as in better chances at the 40 to 48 tier?
The pvp sets aren’t different then crafted or dungeon why the qq.. a lot of things have changed in fact they have been slowly fine tuning wvw and they released content for spvp so your kitten is unwarranted.. yea no new maps were added or stat armor but there is no need for those considering you can get the armor five other ways. Anet in fact pays more attention to its pvp it seems then games like wow read the forums once and see all the dev feedback and leave useless kittens like this at the door
actually op’s kittening is warranted, the type of content that PvE side has received compare to WvW is way better and much more well-planned. This recent update still feels like an afterthought.
almost 1 month of doing level 20 to 26 FOTM, no skins have dropped for me. but I got 2 infused rings and 8 regular ascended rings, I hope Anet offer another way to get the skins, perhaps similar to the rings you can purchase with pristine relics.
You’re going to get a lot of conflicting advice here. For me, 0/0/20/10/20 is the foundation of a WvW hammer build. You’ve taken that base. After that, I don’t have a lot to say with any certainty. I like your build, and it looks like it will work fine if it matches your play style.
However, I assume that you are posting it here because you want more specific feedback… so here it is:
1. Taking 30 in Tactics is an interesting suggestion, but it doesn’t help with the main weakness of the build (which is against opponents with stability). I’d still give this a try and see how it works. If your opponent doesn’t have stability, they are kittened.
2. IMO, choosing Berserker’s Power is a solid choice if you plan on spending a good portion of your fight with the GS in your hand. You will build adrenaline quickly, and do good damage.
3. I have never been a big fan of Empowered. You are going to be consistently seeing a 6% increase in damage. The remaining bonuses that result from the synergy with the Lyssa buffs are somewhat random. For example, you will basically be spamming SoR on CD, and not necessarily when you need the damage boost most. So… yes, it’s still good. But it’s not huge.
OPTION 1: I’d consider putting the 10 points for Empowered into Defense for “Last Stand” (I.e., a 10/0/30/10/20 build). This will help you save your utility stun breaks and controls until later in the fight. That can be huge.
OPTION 2: You could move the 10 points for Empowered into Arms to get Unsuspecting Foe (I.e, a 10/10/20/10/20 build). As you’ve already states, you’d be wasting some of the crit bonus, but it’s still a good trait at +30-40%… especially when it means you can RELY on the Earthshaker crit. Alternatively, it would free you to slot more Cavalier trinkets for a little extra Toughness.
OPTION 3: Run 0/20/20/10/20 and pick up Unsuspecting Foe and Forceful Greatsword. You will have guaranteed crits on Earthshaker, you’ll be able to slot more Cavalier Gear (due to all the extra precision), and you’ll have WWA on an 8 sec CD for better evades, more mobility, and more damage when your hammer is on CD.
Personally, I think I’m partial to Option 1. Option 3 is clearly the most aggressive, and it is an alternative way to boost your offense on both the hammer and GS. I don’t think any of these are clearly better than your current build… It boils down to personal preference.
Good luck.
I actually really liked option 3, the 0/20/20/10/20 build. Reason being that if I need to defend a tower/keep or in huge zerg vs zerg situations, I can switch leg specialist to stronger bowstrings and swap my GS for the longbow. I know it’s not going to give you more dmg, but it’s very versatile in WvW (which is where I am playing mostly on my warrior alt).
longbow brings more utility in a group than rifle, fire field, projectile finishers, blind, blast finisher, coupled with hammer its awesome if you are running an organized group
from what I read, most people say longbow has no synergy with a hammer, how would you do a build with hammer and longbow as your weapon set?
My current build and a few other variations if you like those choices more. I think sword-shield/Hammer is the best set up for Hammer warriors, but Hammer and GS does fine too. This is how I would run it, if I had to run GS/Hammer.
There are many ways to do GS/Hammer but you really can’t optimize both for Maximum DPS. This build atleast offers some good toughness, and over 50% crit on hammer and 55% on GS. If you run Sigil of percepetion and get 25 Stacks, you can get an additions 12-13% crit chance for GS, but it will be almost overkill for Hammer.
I personally like Mobile strikes too much to not go 20 into discipline, but if you think you don’t need it, you can switch 5 from defense and discipline and put 10 into strength for berserker power for a larger increase in DPS.Here is a vid of a full zerk using GS/Hammer (kudos to sanny and his awesome videos)
Its a more DPS based build that revolves around skirmishes/1v1’s. Personally I wouldnt ever go past 50% crit chance on Hammer because of Unsuspecting foe and Earthshaker, but he does get more reliable DPS than I would, although I prefer to be more tanky since I enjoy more zerg and larger group battles. Its up to you what you like.
thanks for the info, its the built that I will go for my warrior alt. As for gears goes, the divinity rune is a bit expensive, what alternate runes would you recommend?
In my eyes it would continue to reward winning servers and zerg mentality.
It would only reward those that DPS and not those that play more support roles. It wouldn’t reward scouting. It wouldn’t reward defending. It wouldn’t reward repairing structures or building siege. It wouldn’t reward upgrading structures or camps. The reward would be smaller for smaller groups (e.g. 5-mans). It rewards zerg-on-zerg tactics.
This is totally the opposite direction of where most players want wvw to go.
Fair enough. So the criteria could be something other than kills. Maybe a point system:
1. 10 points for successful defense of a structure
2. 1 point per kill
3. 20 points for ugrading a structure
4. 1 point per siege weapon built…Accumulate 100 points, and you qualify for the WvW chest.
well, then you need to add zero or even a small negative points for taking keeps and other objectives without defenders, that’s only fair for servers that dont have tons of coverage.
Would be cool if once a year they open server transfers (with the guild builds and what not) for free for a week once a year and reset all the ratings. This way there is change and you get a chance to work with other guilds.
(may post this in suggestions as well)
I would like that idea, kind of like a offseason for NFL, each teams have changes in their rosters and schedules to start a new season.
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they should make the contested state base on % of dmg to gates, like at 25% or something.
hello all,
how’s the queue time for you guys during NA prime time (8PM to 1AM EST)?
Tier 5 or lower to avoid skill lag in big fights.
what “size” are the big fights in tier 5 or lower servers?
The only lag they get is when they freeze in terror as we wipe their zergs!! Sorry, sorry, I’ll keep the T4 warpath out of your recruitment thread. Good luck finding what you’re after in a guild.
thanks,
I am having a tough time deciding between T2 or T3, I pretty much ruled out T4 as of now. If I go T2 it will be TC, as for T3, I am doing my research.
thanks Sinthetix,
I will check out the site and guest to CD to check out the community. Hows the WvW scene in T4? Do u guys experience any skill lag?
got few PMs, but would like to explore more options first before I decide, any guild from T2 to T4 looking for more and fit my requirements, please post here.
Thanks.
thanks for the replies, I guess those 70+ zerg balls are happening on every tier
How’s the skill lag issue, is it noticeable during NA prime time?
Come to Gates of madness:
- Best server name.
- Over 3/4 of our WvW guilds field under 15 people, small guild friendly.
- Current match up will pit you against a lot of other small enemy teams.
you know any good PvX guild on GoM that fits what I am looking for:
thanks in advance.
hello,
T1 player here looking to transfer to a lower tier, how is the WvW scene in T2, is it anything like T1 with mega zerg balls in all WvW maps? Hows the skill lag for you guys?
Sometimes there is.
Sometimes there isn’t
you referring the zerg ball or the skill lag?
hello,
T1 player here looking to transfer to a lower tier, how is the WvW scene in T2, is it anything like T1 with mega zerg balls in all WvW maps? Hows the skill lag for you guys?
hello,
hows the WvW scene in this tier? I am from T1, looking to transfer to either T2/T3/T4, can anyone offer a unbiased opinion?
In T1, its currently mega zerg ball vs mega zerg ball, where 60 to 70 rolls around and much skill lag problem for me, I just want to see if other tiers have such issues.
If any PvX guild is looking for more and is NA prime time friend, give me some info here:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/guilds/guilds/T1-player-looking-for-PvX-guild-in-T2-T3-T4
thanks.
hello all,
I am looking to transfer to a lower tier server, here is a list of what I am looking for in a guild:
- 21+ age guild, friendly to working folks
- NA prime time events (play 9PM to 1AM EST on most nights)
- Solid WvW commanders and guild members participation
As for myself, I have four level 80 toons:
- Guardian with all ascended accessories 20AR (should have even higher soon)
- Mesmer (WvW main) exotic geared
- Thief
- Elementalist
I play roughly 20 to 25 through out the week, depends on real life situations.
I have a decent gaming rig, but in T1 the skill lags and the mega zerg ball of death is getting less fun for me, so that’s why I am exploring options.
Thanks for reading.
do you guys do much WvW besides PvE stuff?
2 of the larger guilds from BG and 2 of the smaller guilds from BG recently transferred to ET.
Should get in touch with them and see what they think of it.
ET seems like the destination server for free transfers atm.
can you provide the guild names?
1) 0 character progression. Carrying extra supply is not character progression to me
2) Items unique to RvR that have COMPARABLE skins to PvE. I actually have to PvE to get skins that I think are awesome. And comparable ascended options available
3) Virtually NO community. Because servers have the potential to switch there is a lack of rivalry with enemies. There is no fun trash talking via forums, no people calling eachother out, and unless I missed it no server v server forums. These rivalries/alliances are what bond a home realm.. or in this game the server.
4) Lack of indivudalism. Zerging is rampant. Unfortunately it is obvious that game companies prefer zerging. Every pvp game I play caters to this. I don’t know who the good players are, or the players that play the most. It’s an endless stream of zergs and randoms. People getting absorbed into the zerg then break away. If you asked me who the good pvp guild is on my server (small efficient, potent 5 man) I would not be able to tell you and I play a couple hours in wvwvw a night. There are so few opportunities for a nice 5v5 fight or 1v1 that I will never know who stands out
4.5) No one roams. Everyone focuses on siege. The fact that so few people want a decent 5v5 fight and would prefer to zerg train steamroll another zerg is mindboggling to me. It really, really is. It’s a new generation of players I guess. Post 2010. The 2001-2005 era of pvp is what I like.
5) No way to make money in WvWvW
6) No way to move around the map quicker
7) The SAME map for every server. God does this get old.
8) Obvious lack of interest that ANET has in wvwvw. I feel that there is no hope.
9) Carebears. Oh my lord is this game filled with carebears. I remember a post where people were upset about being killed at a jumping puzzle in wvwvw. And offered the idea of a TRUCE IN THAT AREA. LMFAO. I am100% serious.
10) When wvwvw’ers say its about siege and my mentality is the red team blue team halo match that this game calls PvP. What ever happened to wanting to roam with your band of friends, wearing gear that is the best you can afford (maybe amazing, maybe not), fighting others who may be above or below you skill level etc. Wheres the sense of adventure? Again I guess this is a 2001-2005 mentality.
Other then this I like it.
This guy basically said it better than I could.
I think the 2001-2005 reference is obviously to DAoC, and there’s some rose tinted glasses going on as well. Zerging was rampant there just as it’s rampant here. It’s just that the Downed State combined with the AoE Cap makes it worse because there’s no penalty to having such a huge horde that you can’t see when you’ve been flanked.
Also, taking an empty keep should offer next to zero reward. I’ve seen loads of large groups just avoid a keep that has a defender because it’s faster to run to an empty one.
Finally, removing Orbs was a good idea because of the amount of hacking going on. That said, WvW is really missing something without them. I’m looking forward to when they get reintroduced in some form.
Short list for the attention deficient:
- Too Zergy; No Penalty for Huge Masses of People
- Keep Warfare Implementation seems Silly
- Orbs Need to Come Back
I agree with the taking undefended keeps should offer lower points, however I dont agree why should masses of people incur penalty in WvW. WvW is about massive battles, and yet the “look at me syndrome” people want to feel special and have the world stage all to themselves. It’s like Anet is obligated to create these “heroic” moments for everyone, it’s just ridiculous.
Hi,
This is a multi-part question really. I belong to a relatively small guild trying to get its start. We currently reside on Blackgate, but want to move down to a lower tiered-server where we can
1) find people who are interested in focusing primarily on WvWvW
2) bolster our ranks
3) help the server improve itself as far as WvWvW standings go.
wow,
why looking to leave BG? Arent you guys in T1 doing good against JQ?
Just priorities.
Skill lag is exclusive to t1 and t2. Culling is much more widespread.
No it isn’t. I (as well as most of my guildies) get ability lag fairly often during NA prime time and we’re in Tier 5.
Get it in T4 too. And it is far worse an issue than culling. You can play with culling. You can’t play when you can’t activate your skills.
good to know, at least I dont have to waste gem to transfer hoping skill lag would go away. Anet dev team just continue to show the lack of effort and planning when they designed the WvW environment, it just seems like they didnt do any QA on that part of the game.
Why is it that patch day keeps bringing back memories of Heavy in TF2?
They explained already that there were some issues with ascended this patch and they’ll be coming soon. Relax.
Relax? PvE players have been getting all the love, why should WvW players settle for less?
Don’t forget that, outside of a 100b warrior or another thief, there really isn’t any class that could kill a thief that quickly.
A Mesmer can range burst down an unwary glass cannon thief in a couple of seconds (GS 4, 2, 3, F1 should just about do it)
Either way, I wonder how much of a nerf this really is. As I have understood it, revealed only occur when you attack from stealth? So if you stealth, appear and then attack you can restealth instantly. Basicly, it only nerf the backstab skill by adding an extra second before the thief can restealth. Which is nothing.
It is quite dissapointing. This does absolutely nothing for multi-veiling zergs or perma-stealth thieves.
nice try to bring up Mesmer using GS, however, the iBerzerker is broken now, it’s doing less damage, Anet knows it and didnt fix it. I think a nerf to thief indirectly makes Anet devs want to stealth nerf others.
if that’s the direction devs going to go, they also need to create a “stealth hate” mechanic, if I happen to hit a thief in stealth he can be one-shotted…
Pretty fail patch IMHO.
yep, anyone still belief Anet care about WvW players?
Great good job anet… You deserve a freaking golf clap.
+1.
Anet = epic fail.
anyone have experience using this build in a wvw roamer / small group?
I ran Rampager gear with GS for a long time and recently switched to Berserker. Damage-wise I find Berserker to be better, since Staff doesn’t lose much DPS with high Power gear (though I still use Rampager stats on Staff because it doesn’t affect GS). Condition dmg does absolutely nothing for GS outside of illusion bleeds, and Sigil of Earth is not a strong enough converter mechanic.
hi,
is GS your default weapon, I mean the one that you have out most of the time?
@Kontrolle:
Eh, I do GS/Staff on a regular basis. The synergy’s pretty wicked, tbh. GS for your heavy offense/sniping work, then Staff for defense/escape/boons and conditions. For that matter, if you’d like to see a “non-noob” usage of GS, I’d suggest checking out any of Nevhie’s more recent vids. She uses every skill on the bloody thing, to wicked effect.Of course, YMMV.
does Nevhie has a youtube channel with all her videos?
hi Viking,
I highly recommend you wait until the March patch before u make your decisions. I am not speaking for everyone, but there are many people that I know of who are not doing much WvW but PvE while waiting for the patch, myself included. The patch might make a difference in your server’s performance afterwards, I think 1 to 2 weeks u should able to see the real effect, and I think that’s best time to make your decision.
Defense wins championships (does the dirty bird)
That’s a myth, my friend
Even with full buf over 3k+ armor and much hp, anybody can hit me like 8k damage or more, and i get lol.
Because i play mostly wvw and the zerg is extrmely higth i just go to boomer build and semi support , but as a veteran guardian from first beta and over now i see tomany ex guardian moving to other classes , always i see tons of others classes but not guardian, and i fell so sad about it. Anyway i love my guardian at all but sometime i fell something is going wrong with my class, compared to the others tclkitten are always geting buff. I think i have the old list how many nerf i have on all my build lol.
agree with your sentiment. I feel guardian class needs a slight bump in health pool or some extra % for dmg reduction, if the role is truly front line dps/ support instead of healer.
I am a full zerker guardian and have no problems in high level fractals. Just missing one ear ring now…. I only advice this if you are good at timing your evades and are running AHEM.
When you get to the 40+ range of fractals everything pretty much kills you fast regardless to armor/toughness so I just try to kill it faster than it can kill me.
sorry, but what’s AHEM?
I don’t quite understand the hate on GS mindstab.
What do you people want? A skill that removes up to 5 boons, slightly increases the GS damage output (dont be fooled by the number that pops up, keep in mind that GS auto needs more time to complete its attack than mindstab) and have it hit up to 5 targets on a big AoE?
Are you kittening me?
if they are going to nerf shatter dmg, that’s one way to balance it, in addition to one attack from other MH weapons.
@ 42 secs “110 supply among 15 players” pre-fight
@ the end “110 supply among 14 players” post-fightGotta love the EMP comments about impatience, “setting the field”, 2v1, etc
Numbers were even and they lost. Not sure I get all the drama surrounding this. You win and lose, it is what it is. If you win, act like you’ve been there before and intend to go back. If you lose, lose with grace, learn from your mistakes, say “GG”, and be done with it. Practice what you preach SoR, sportsmanship is a two way street. If CDS is as good a guild as they claim to be, they shouldn’t be estatic about one victory.
what does being a “good” guild has to do with being ecstatic or not about a GvG victory? Perhaps you look at Emp’s recruitment thread, which they advertise “undefeated” against NA guilds. Whether that can be interpreted as “boasting” or being “classy” in its intend, it really depends on personal interpretation and how one would spin it.
Ok so after watching that video… I’ll be happy if thieves really do become the slipperiest class in the game. I don’t really care much about the revealed debuff thing. My worry though… in the transition period there will probably be periods of time where thief is OP and other times it’s UP. I also do agree that they should have fixed culling first, then made changes after they’re able to see the effect of that.
I’m more surprised that when the player is telling them things like “don’t you think that’s OP” in regards to the mesmer changes they kinda looked at each other and seemingly realized “hey… yea… that is kinda OP…”
Same with the comment about eles being so hard to kill 1v1. They just sort of shrugged at that one -.-
Also while guardians are boon centric warriors… other classes can stack more boons for longer than the guardian… which makes little sense to me. Also they said nothing about fixing the long standing problem with guardians having no good long ranged weapon… (if you say scepter I’m gonna laugh)
Eng is getting a turrett buff… whoopiee -.-
I guess I’ll wait and see what they do though… but watching that interview did not inspire any confidence. Thank god for my alts…
New ideas are cool and all… but fixes and balance should come first.
Tell me how easy it is to get everyone to stand in a row with the Mesmer changes… Also they are going to nerf shatters after sooo shut it…. And right now the phantasm on the GS is bugged out and not getting even looked at… So you keep telling yourself that the Mesmer change is gonna be SOOO op.
so what if Mesmer class really gonna get some nerf, the fact that all thieves collectively will get hit harder just brings a smile to face. That’s why u make multiple 80s, when one gets nerfed you just go play another class, lol.
great job CDS, way to represent SoR. That’s one heck of a “oops we got wtfpwned” moment for EMP, lol.
Congratulations [EMP] for another victorious GvG against Sanctum of Rall’s Pain Train [Choo]! Keep up the good work, keep on advancing, keep on improving! More GvG’s to come.
EMP is undefeated in GvG against NA guilds
EMP is undefeated no more in GvG, wtfpwned by CDS of SoR.
SoR still looking for more folks to join and help with WvW coverage in none NA prime timezone, check us out!
So, using lower resolution fallback models will make legendary weapons useless, because nobody will see those weapons ?
Good enough.true if the game setting you speak of applies to all characters at all times in all places from all points of view!
Culling affect PvE area, lowering setting should let you use those fallback models everywhere.
I think most people prefer their game perform better than see your flashy legendary. Besides those who want to see them can adjust the settings such that they can.
Well, it’s a good reason to invest in a more powerful gaming rig & faster connection so as to enjoy the visual at its intended fullness.
hmm,
with my Alienware 17X R4 gaming laptop and Verizon FIOS (fiber optic) connection, I am experiencing skill lags in big zerg fights in T1 WvW. I wonder if will get worst with the culling changes.
It is funny to see all the crying on the forums. I have been in some 1v1 with some JQ only to have SF roll up with 20 people to wipe me.
lol, +1.
do you guys have a set schedule (day of the week + time) for guild mission events? I work full time in EST, usually play during the 9PM to 1AM slot, weekend hours are random, but I average about 20 to 25 hours per week. I like both WvW and PvE, but currently focus on PvE content for ascended gears, and love the new guild mission contents.
do you guys have a set schedule on guild mission events (or other guild events)? I work full time in EST, usually play during 9PM to 1AM EST slot…
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