Guild Wars 2

Justine.6351:

This week I was like, I don’t really need tickets anymore with 6 full ascended characters. Guess I don’t care if I get diamond chest this week.

Had to happen eventually I suppose.

Good luck to those still slaving away their game time on them.

your a boss i have 1 toon and half with ascended armor from WvW drops im so cool!
i never really give a kitten about getting ascended armor since the exotic from WvW vendor is equally good.
its not like ur getting completely wrecked by ascended armor people just like people with legendary dont rip thru hordes of enemies..

why u want rewards to start off with?
i mean i got my full ascended armor from WvW drops same for my weapon (still got 1 exotic) i never really spend doing a thing outside WvW and i never felt like i was weaker then some1 else with my exotic gear from WvW vendor.

i dont really need rewards to play WvW

a better WvW server would be nice
a better WvW balance would be nice
so many things can be changed in WvW but people nag about rewards, i dont know a single game where PvP actually rewards u.
unless u pvp in a instance like sPvP etc but i dont really see WvW as instanced PvP zone.

i barely have any time to play nowadays and i easily hit mithril chest that being said i have new born i get to play maybe 1 hour in evening if i want during work weeks and 2/3 hours in weekend that being said if i do these full hours i blow all my free time on PC which i dont and i still rack up to mithril ? chest w/e chest it was 1 before daimond

im not a high rank also cus i was for years on very very dead server where “blobs” was as big as a roam squad in top servers. top of that i played thief non stop all day so getting tons of wxp wasnt really going to happen also.

im rank 800 or so? so with your hours etc blabala u should have far higher rank then me cus i have ~1200 hour on gw2 so u tell me how u cant do it while i can.

All Matters Fecal.9560:

Got clarification of what a pip is. WvW is still the same old WvW…boring as all hell.

I must be missing something because I can’t see why people play this mode. I really want to like it and I’m purely a pvp player in all MMOs I play, but this is not PvP…it’s PvE with the (seemingly) annoyance of PvP that slows down your PvE.

Zergs and groups avoid PvP fights, people capturing towers/camps/zones for little to no apparent reason, punishment for getting killed is extremely steep with regards to getting back into any potential action…

Someone please re-align my expectations so I can enjoy WvW just as much as it seems other people are.

somewhat tru, only reason i play WvW over sPvP because sPvP is so easy to predict now im not saying im a beast and i kitten in sPvP but if u got the time and the will to invest in sPvP u can basically read most players and u know exactly whats on cd and whats not.

which is why i prefer WvW roaming because i dont know wtf is on CD i dont know how many enemies are around corner i dont know kitten beside fact that im gonna get ganked or im going to gank. this random factor makes the difference for me.

for some kittenty skins as far i could figure out and some ascended armor/weap(which are the skins?) ah u can choose stats on the ascended crap but if u spend 3g u can just mystic forge the ascended stuff u have already and u got it done..

tbh i dont really understand the whole Pip crap also people have been nagging at me through pm that im a pip farmer while i checked the stuff i can get and i really dont understand why i would want to farm pips

Stand The Wall.6987:

you’ve got a point but it works both ways. transferring to a lower pop linked server costs less gems, so if someone wanted to play with less blobs then there is more incentive to do so.

point is lower pop servers get linked to “full” servers
so its useless instead of linking 2 low population servers together to fight 2 other and another 2 low pop linked servers…

KrHome.1920:

1. Walk the opposite direction to make the disengaged thief spend resources to catch up.

Did you know that my standard DA/Tr/DD marauder (19K HP) teef deals 2K shortbow autos while I catch up using SB5 and evade/cripple using SB3 if my opponent decides to turn around again?

how u got that much HP?
cus im full mar thief and i hit ~17k tops

So i main thief, is it easy to play?
Yes its as easy as a guardian in blob…

what yields me more bags/wxp/whatever your after(beside fun)
guardian hands down..

thief is good at what he does pick on loners dont really see what part we are OP.
cant even stick to a blob, cus
A) no1 wants us in squad
B) die in a flash of a second on a mistake)
C) have nothing to add to a party
D) skill lag really really helps a class that doesnt relay on 111111 and cant handle a single mistake in a blob.

Lahmia.2193:

reddie.5861:

Lahmia.2193:

Odokuro.5049:

Lahmia.2193:

Leolas.6273:

Those Condi thieves really sucks. The whole WvWvW is full with condis now and anet really think this should be fun? How pathetic. I will now really leave this game because it is really unfun to play. I can spend my freetime for more better games than this kitten.

Cool story. Send us all your materials and gold.

I wonder how far people can beat a dead meme.

As long as I have strength in my arm and QQ’ers, who threaten to leave because of something minor, I shall beat it hard.

why blame em? i left many times cus of something minor or just cus of boredom..
i just return months later and most of kitten has changed like nowadays i returned and all people are into condi’s and here im with my power thief/power reaper not giving a kitten about meta just blasting my way thru, and yes i hate condi cus its kitten easy to play.

Don’t pretend that power reaper is any harder to play than condi. In fact that’s one of the reasons I started out by playing power necro (pre HoT and then again post HoT) in wvw because it was so kitten easy to play and so good at tagging/damaging. At least condi necro had some harder aspects to pull off, like getting a good epidemic off (before they nerfed it into the ground). People that didn’t play it think otherwise I know, but the amount of times you’d get a successful epidemic off was surprisingly low.

not saying power is easy or harder to play, its just the way i like to play.
but i can imagine some classes cant handle this meta we have now especially on thief i struggle sometimes with all condi’s flying around and then u have people saying go cleanse like thief has tons of short cd cleanses laying around. meanwhile like i mentioned before re applying condi’s is kitten easy.

tho i also understand that condi is somewhat equal to power
condi ticks overtime “slowly”
power just comes in like a bang.

only difference is when u go power ur more or less stuck with power fero and erm forgot stat name for crit rate
while condi u just need condi dmg and u can smash some tanky stats for the rest.

if u would have had condi gear that added
condi time (expertise no?)
condi dmg (we have)
condi crit chance to crit on ticks

then u wash out the other stats such a vitality / toughness, if u nerf just condi dmg a bit in order to force people bit into other stats.
so u gonna get same as before every1 running around as glass cannon except now its either power or condi or mixed people who do medi core dmg but can sustain a bit also

saerni.2584:

Condition damage is harder to balance with all the cleanse floating around.

Nerf cleanse, nerf condition output and then we can talk about “condi op.”

just make condi dmg only work in X range.

let say thief bleed being applied only with melee range
thus melee range was 80 no? (i forgot but w/e) so in order to make bleed work and tick u do like 3x that range = ticks work if more then 240 range away bleed ticks do not work.

with necro’s who have marks at 1200 range u can be max 3600 range away in order for condi’s to have zero effect on person.
cus for me problem with condi’s is every1 is applying em like idiots and then run off like a kitten waiting for you to bleed out, and saying go cleanse em well not all classes have cleanse constantly off cd while reapplying condi’s is 90% of the time a matter of using auto attack.

Lahmia.2193:

Odokuro.5049:

Lahmia.2193:

Leolas.6273:

Those Condi thieves really sucks. The whole WvWvW is full with condis now and anet really think this should be fun? How pathetic. I will now really leave this game because it is really unfun to play. I can spend my freetime for more better games than this kitten.

Cool story. Send us all your materials and gold.

I wonder how far people can beat a dead meme.

As long as I have strength in my arm and QQ’ers, who threaten to leave because of something minor, I shall beat it hard.

why blame em? i left many times cus of something minor or just cus of boredom..
i just return months later and most of kitten has changed like nowadays i returned and all people are into condi’s and here im with my power thief/power reaper not giving a kitten about meta just blasting my way thru, and yes i hate condi cus its kitten easy to play.

babazhook.6805:

reddie.5861:

Taobella.6597:

weakness con thief is confusion mesmer or burn guard. <- both in the meta so the build is fine.

how? mesmer steal skill is giving thief immunity and enough time to smash mesmer
i dont think a mesmer has upper hand over a thief they are prolly equal in a 1v1 but for sure not a thief counter neither is a guard cus the way i played condi thief i didnt do anything beside spamming evades and use 1 / 2 poison fields so screw the guard i would not even be near him while he is having all poison stacks up and kitten easy to re apply em..

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQJAVVn8lClOhFNBGOB8PhFYCz7LsoGRa/pAQBYOEeCThA-T5QHgAAXBgw9HEeEAAA there that build double short bow with some exotic gear from AH was cheap crap but basically hitting 4 from short bow + spider venom would daze some1 + using dodges near him would trigger a combo from the field which is more poisons and possibly bleeds + tornaments on evades + on interupts which ull get from poison stacks/steal.

the build is broken and thats coming from a thief..

tho im a condi hater so maybe thats why i call it broken i just tried it and it was to easy to apply tons and tons of condi’s in short time while condi dmg was insane.
top of that i was pretty much immune applying condi’s cus of my evade spam in poison fields and then port out with shadow step watching u bleed out if not port back and repeat

The condition immunity on a steal and consume plasma is lall of 2.5 seconds on a 20 plus second cooldown. That is hardly going to save the thief. It a stopgap to use when cleanses gone. I find it odd someone can claim this gives “immunity from conditions” then says conditions OP, then ignores the fact there classes such as the warrior that can string together 10 times the Immunity from resistance but this not a counter to conditions. What sort of reasoning is this.?

As to the SB CG all of those stacks come only if the enemy STANDS in the Circle and does nothing for the duration. There is two stacks of poison applied per second. 1 second is plenty to get out of a field just as it is to get out of any other field cast. When I am caught in a SB field I move OUT just as I do with any other field that is applying conditions. The 1 per 4 second potential interrupt does not impede movement. It is a daze not a stun.

This sounds very much like the people claiming Mortars OP because of all the fire stacks applied if someone just stood in the field.

To your whirl finishers inside that field. Again they are easily negated by the person moving out of the field. You are not playing against NPCS and Golems. If the person at the other end just stands there he deserves to get stacks of poison just as would happen damage wise if I stood there as a warrior used Hundred blades on me.

The range of the poison bolts from a whirl finisher is all of 240 units. Arc Divider has a longer range. Claiming a skill OP then premising it upon an enemy player being dumb as a rock demonstrates nothing to show the skill op.

then gw2 according to you is full of dumb players, i have done my kitten inside blobs and on solo players u can cleanse etc all u want but i never give a full blow of all condi at once when i did try this crap above..

also many people (including me) will just panic button smash when i pop out of hide smashing condi on you which do hurt.

getting one below 50% for a immobillize isnt insane hard also trust me this build that i dropped there is kitten easy to play and will get you bags / kills so easy.
condi just needs to be upped in dmg and toned down in way how easy its to reapply it (for all classes) cus u can nag all you want but condi’s fly out so easy and stacking them up is also so kitten easy.

Taobella.6597:

weakness con thief is confusion mesmer or burn guard. <- both in the meta so the build is fine.

how? mesmer steal skill is giving thief immunity and enough time to smash mesmer
i dont think a mesmer has upper hand over a thief they are prolly equal in a 1v1 but for sure not a thief counter neither is a guard cus the way i played condi thief i didnt do anything beside spamming evades and use 1 / 2 poison fields so screw the guard i would not even be near him while he is having all poison stacks up and kitten easy to re apply em..

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQJAVVn8lClOhFNBGOB8PhFYCz7LsoGRa/pAQBYOEeCThA-T5QHgAAXBgw9HEeEAAA there that build double short bow with some exotic gear from AH was cheap crap but basically hitting 4 from short bow + spider venom would daze some1 + using dodges near him would trigger a combo from the field which is more poisons and possibly bleeds + tornaments on evades + on interupts which ull get from poison stacks/steal.

the build is broken and thats coming from a thief..

tho im a condi hater so maybe thats why i call it broken i just tried it and it was to easy to apply tons and tons of condi’s in short time while condi dmg was insane.
top of that i was pretty much immune applying condi’s cus of my evade spam in poison fields and then port out with shadow step watching u bleed out if not port back and repeat

babazhook.6805:

reddie.5861:

babazhook.6805:

I think people should be playing more of the builds they critique. I do not consider myself as highyly skilled yet do not have the issues killing Condi Builds that some seem to have. For thief in particular it really does not matter if they power or condi, they always have escape ability. Condi can just “hang around” more while power has to pull off. Given I play both Condi thief and power thief, I know the weaknesses of the Condi just by having faced persons on my condition build who also know those weaknesses and exploit them. (After every fight I tend to look back on the logs to try to determine how it done)

My own rule of thumb is this. If I am on a given build for XXX hours and 20 plus percent of the total players I encounter can deal with it , than the build can not be OP.

Now to Zerg fights in particular and all of hat AOE, that an entirely different issue and has little to do with the thief or with individual condition builds in general. It how it all works and is magnified in a blob. The nature of a blob fight negates much of the inherent downsides of a given build type.

so whats condi thief weakness?
cus i tried condi thief with some cheap ass gear, and all i did was pop a poison field spam some evades
which add more poison
and possibly bleed(from dodge trait to drop bleed)
tornament etc
on a interupt after 5? stacks of poison i add more tornaments(trait again in trickster?) i use that skill(some share able poison crap) to have 5 times poison added to my attacks or w/e, so all in all i will just wreck u in seconds.

cus i stack up so much poison stacks when i pop you out of surprise.
poison field (while in hide) > steal > dodge > hit > dodge > hit > dodge > hit <- tons of interupts tons of poisons possibly bleeds

interupts = the impact stuff
interupts = tornaments

i mean i didnt really see my weakness at all given the fact that i have my traits window perma open dragged to far left side so i could switch between dash(for swiftness when running around and other crap for evading in poison fields, ye im sorry i dont know em names and to lazy to check up).

none the less i found it so easy and not fun at all i went back to good old power thief.

Please try some builds before claiming there nothing you can do.

I have a power thief that uses Staff and P/p that kills them dead. I have a power warrior with boon time and resistance that kills them dead. Carrion hybrid thief kills them dead. These are the two classes I am most familiar with and can speak to directly but I have also been killed dead by well played necroes and mesmers and Elementalists when I was on condition. The thing they all had in common was they traited condition cleanses and knew when to cleanse. Another thing they do is not stand inside a poison field as a theif they face spams deathblossom. It really not hard to move away you see.

Play your condition thief NOT because it more fun or because it OP. Play it to see how other peoples counter.

the thing is i dont do anything beside this

P/D > 5 > 2 > hide
move in switch short bow
Cast 2 (poison) while in hide, this stuff travels while u pop some poison kitten that is added to your attacks so u auto attack with bow poison field drops u spam evades which triggers aoe poison spam + some other condi’s u interupt which triggers the the impact skill

tbh i didnt had problem like this as thief ofcourse i didnt kill everything and every1 but its far easier to play then a power thief giving the fact that if u make a error on condi thief u can actually sustain some hits if ur out of skills to get out quick while power thief ur pretty much kittened.

o btw even tho i play WvW from very very start i always refused to play meta toons also i didnt play on kitten server from start so im not even among high ranks think im just a gold rank, do u see me complaining even tho im a “veteran” ?

live of a thief on dead servers pre server merges was fun but not giving me any WXP now im sad think ima go slit my wrist.

Jumpin Lumpix.6108:

reddie.5861:

Jumpin Lumpix.6108:

You wvwers continuously attack and try to tell players who play for rewards that they are doing it wrong. Getting rewards in gw2 is end game and to discourage that type of play is ridiculous. .

because who plays a game for rewards?

getting rewards in gw2 means nice but its not needed is it?

for example give WvW the amulets sPvP has and no1 would need a single piece of gear thus no1 needs rewards and every1 is happy..
if u purely play for WvW or sPvP u shouldnt need rewards to keep u playing, u need fun if u dont have fun u shouldnt be playing to start off with.

u see, i tried PvE i ran rounds i had some website open which raid was spawning i went to all raids i got bored in 2/3 hours next day i tried again same thing.
i simply QUIT doing it cus i hated it. i couldnt care about rewards cus i didnt like it at all so i dumped my ass perma in WvW if i get bored i quit game for few months and i return but i will never return to PvE do u see my point? if i dont like something i dont do it i dont care what rewards one get which are only given to PvE players, i dont care about fancy skins etc i just wanna WvW be it with rewards or without.

oye i forgot to add i wasnt allowed in a single fractal group cus my w/e points where really low, like im going to search for some achievement points? like it shows my skill
so ye i havent seen much of pve world beside what i solo’d but none of it was interesting to me

well by your logic, nobody even needs to play the game, so we should all just not play it and don’t try to change it either because whats the point. Reward are pointless, and not needed. Fun game play is pointless and not needed. and also trying to make the game more reasonable and less grindy (which is what im doing, which results in more “fun” gameplay which is what you say is important) is also pointless.

i play for fun, and i played WvW from moment i could join and i had fun as upscaled i got my self this gear from WvW vendor and i never felt like i was any worse or better then any other WvWer out there i didnt felt like some1 with legendary was better then me i didnt even know wtf ascended gear was untill i got a drop of it.

thats how much i care about gear/rewards i just wanted fun and i had tons of it in WvW all i needed was badges of honor to gear up which was kitten EASY to get so i dunno where the grind is.

if your talking about rewards u can get now (even tho i dont even know what the new rewards are) why you complain? for example if i go into PvE and i dont get my legendary weapon within 5 days i can complain? because im a WvWer and i want legendary but i cant get all the mats/items needed within 5 days of playing PvE?

should i complain at Anet that i cant farm same mobs over and over again without having a decreased droprate? should i complain that i cant even farm mobs properly because i dont have my story line completed so i dont have enough mastery slots or points w/e it was to get all glide skills etc which is needed to get to certain spots or these jump mushrooms etc?

i mean get real go play for fun ull get what u want eventually..
i want a legendary for months or years already but i never put work into this crap and i still dont have it but one day ill get it and ill be happy with it without having to work for it. do i see it as grind cus i waited (or in your eyes grinded) years for it? no i dont because im simply having fun with what i have now if i happend to get precursor ill be happy but it wont feel like oo the grind is over because nothing will change ill still do WvW ill still do same kitten as i always did so in your eyes grind is never over.

theres a difference between you and me, i dont have goals i just wanna kill people and have fun.
you on the other hand want to have fancy things but u dont wanna work for anything you want WvW things handed to you well take em i wish all u boys who want w/e kitten u can get from WvW nowadays would get em mailed to you by Anet and never return to WvW again so all problems are solved.

cus seriously if a skin or legendary or w/e u can aquire from WvW only now is what u want pls just take it and stop whining.
cus for me it doesnt matter if your most shining Legendary decked out toon in gw2 if i see u in WvW ill still gank you(cus im thief) and ill still choose when to fight and how to fight and most likely ill win t he fight also so take all your shiny stuff and just leave the scene.

Jumpin Lumpix.6108:

You wvwers continuously attack and try to tell players who play for rewards that they are doing it wrong. Getting rewards in gw2 is end game and to discourage that type of play is ridiculous. .

because who plays a game for rewards?

getting rewards in gw2 means nice but its not needed is it?

for example give WvW the amulets sPvP has and no1 would need a single piece of gear thus no1 needs rewards and every1 is happy..
if u purely play for WvW or sPvP u shouldnt need rewards to keep u playing, u need fun if u dont have fun u shouldnt be playing to start off with.

u see, i tried PvE i ran rounds i had some website open which raid was spawning i went to all raids i got bored in 2/3 hours next day i tried again same thing.
i simply QUIT doing it cus i hated it. i couldnt care about rewards cus i didnt like it at all so i dumped my ass perma in WvW if i get bored i quit game for few months and i return but i will never return to PvE do u see my point? if i dont like something i dont do it i dont care what rewards one get which are only given to PvE players, i dont care about fancy skins etc i just wanna WvW be it with rewards or without.

oye i forgot to add i wasnt allowed in a single fractal group cus my w/e points where really low, like im going to search for some achievement points? like it shows my skill
so ye i havent seen much of pve world beside what i solo’d but none of it was interesting to me

babazhook.6805:

I think people should be playing more of the builds they critique. I do not consider myself as highyly skilled yet do not have the issues killing Condi Builds that some seem to have. For thief in particular it really does not matter if they power or condi, they always have escape ability. Condi can just “hang around” more while power has to pull off. Given I play both Condi thief and power thief, I know the weaknesses of the Condi just by having faced persons on my condition build who also know those weaknesses and exploit them. (After every fight I tend to look back on the logs to try to determine how it done)

My own rule of thumb is this. If I am on a given build for XXX hours and 20 plus percent of the total players I encounter can deal with it , than the build can not be OP.

Now to Zerg fights in particular and all of hat AOE, that an entirely different issue and has little to do with the thief or with individual condition builds in general. It how it all works and is magnified in a blob. The nature of a blob fight negates much of the inherent downsides of a given build type.

so whats condi thief weakness?
cus i tried condi thief with some cheap ass gear, and all i did was pop a poison field spam some evades
which add more poison
and possibly bleed(from dodge trait to drop bleed)
tornament etc
on a interupt after 5? stacks of poison i add more tornaments(trait again in trickster?) i use that skill(some share able poison crap) to have 5 times poison added to my attacks or w/e, so all in all i will just wreck u in seconds.

cus i stack up so much poison stacks when i pop you out of surprise.
poison field (while in hide) > steal > dodge > hit > dodge > hit > dodge > hit <- tons of interupts tons of poisons possibly bleeds

interupts = the impact stuff
interupts = tornaments

i mean i didnt really see my weakness at all given the fact that i have my traits window perma open dragged to far left side so i could switch between dash(for swiftness when running around and other crap for evading in poison fields, ye im sorry i dont know em names and to lazy to check up).

none the less i found it so easy and not fun at all i went back to good old power thief.

just to blow your time being busy on something that will just get the kitten out when needed meanwhile teamm8s dont have such a annoying scrapper near em cus thief kept him busy somewhere.

Firebaall.5127:

reddie.5861:

wvw = pvp
pve = rewards

i really dont understand why people are so horny over some reward system, seems im one of the few who really dont give a kitten about rewards lol

Yet you obviously care enough to tell us. :P

I like WvW. I like rewards.

im just getting sick of rewards topics with people constantly nagging..
i mean i started WvW the moment i could join (as upscaled) i went in WvW to lvl 80 i got all my gear through WvW, so we had rewards already it might have not been so great but honestly i never played WvW for rewards and im sick of people nagging about stupid rewards while there are far better things to fix in WvW

by starting off with massive skill lags during big PvP’s
and some proper balance for WvW only

etc etc but nope.. lets all nag about some kittenty rewards..

o btw for people who think im decked out with gear no i dont have a single legendary i just have ascended stuff and im more then happy with it.

Final fantasy is not grind
neither is black desert

go back to times mmo’s where actually mmo’s try lineage 2, smashing countless of mobs and not even getting 0.01% on ur xp bar after a full train of mobs, but then u die and u lose 5% or some1 just kills you for the kitten off it and u lose also 5%.

theres no grind in games anymore..

if people wanna go up fast in WvW make a guardian and hold down 1 with a staff this way ull rack up ranks so easy its boring as kitten but ur ranking up like an idiot.

wvw = pvp
pve = rewards

i really dont understand why people are so horny over some reward system, seems im one of the few who really dont give a kitten about rewards lol

Kam.4092:

I love WvW. I just feel discouraged because it takes 20-30 hours a week to hit cap, and I just can’t hit the cap weekly. I think just from a general life perspective it’s ludicrous to have that extreme of a time requirement.

It’s impossible to hit without playing this one game mode 4+ hours a day. This shouldn’t be the case, because it seriously impacts a person’s health, and isn’t good for people with jobs, and an active life.

An MMO is already a time commitment, why make it a literal second job?

let me say something, WHO CARES?!
when i join sPvP or WvW i wanna PvP i wanna kill stuff i dont give a rats ass about rewards.. i just want to pvp the rewards are nice but not needed if one wants stuff go farm pve dungeons its far more rewarding and faster..

who cares tbh, i mean if some1 wants to invest his time in some kittenty virtual K/D ratio let him be?

and yes im from FSP and no i dont have server pride nor i play at these weird times but still, i dont see who kitten would invest time into bumping up K/D ratio some1 must be really addicted to this game and cant stand losing i suppose

zoomborg.9462:

It is a problem with people transferring to top server all the time. Im on Deso and we had queues with 15-20 people on all maps on reset night. But other than friday bl’s are outnumbered almost 24/7. Meanwhile fsp/gandara have about 3 times the numbers and full coverage throughout the week so we are talking about at least 50+ queues. That’s overpopulation right there.

On NA they problem is much bigger where there are 3 servers with all the population and the rest are completely dead. Hence the queues.

People will have to get over the “i need to be on top” mentality if there will ever be server balance again. Linking is also very lackluster and makes the problem even worse.
I’m happy where i am even if we can’t compete with gandara or fsp but thats also partially to not having any links since god knows when.

Still with the loyalty thingy now even people u transfered to overpopulated servers will think twice b4 transferring again.

fsp had 100 queue today and rest of maps was ~30/50 dunno anymore when exactly but i guess it was around prime time..

fsp always had queue’s but these queues we have now i havent seen them since i had quit basically i dont mind transfering off i dont have server loyality i just want to do WvW i can do it for any server but paying kitten load while i barely play this game nowadays nope thnx..

they should have just made a freaking mega server for WvW just fill up maps like mist and enjoy boom boom.

i just logged in after 7 months insta quit again, conditions are insane cant even roam anymore unless im getting kitten build to lose conditions they reapply so fast i cant do kitten versus em seems to me that conditions ticks have been made faster like before was 1 tick every 2 seconds now seems to be 1 tick ever 0.5 seconds..

i havent got a problem with conditions but the way conditions are applied in this game is my problem they have no CD they have nothing u just keep smashing that 1 button and it keeps adding.

Blodeuyn.2751:

It’s not discrimination. It is rewarding those who’ve played wvw for years. Why should new players, who might leave wvw altogether when they have their rewards, get the same amount of pips as those loyal to the game mode?

I welcome everyone new to wvw, and hope you find it fun, but you have to earn your ranks and rewards like the rest of us. Wvw has been neglected for ages, so it is past time for those of us playing this game mode to get something from it.

Please remember, someone else’s rank doesn’t take away from your fun and rewards. Stick with wvw and you’ll get there soon enough yourself!

i honestly dont understand why a “veteran” should be rewarded more then a new player..
i mean im a veteran and if a new player is doing better/more then me so be it give him the reward for it not me just because i spend more time on game and got my rank as advantage..

people who played back in the days obviously have much higher rank due to the fact that it wasnt much of ppt festival “dead” servers where alive and they where fighting.

i mean i played mostly thief obviously i cant rack up wxp like a guard which i played from time to time also and my rank just sky rocket what would take me hours on thief to achieve my guard did it in less then 2/3 big fights by just holding down 1 button..

the rank stuff makes no sense, if u base it on class making armors for high demand face roll classes high rank to get while “kitten” classes easy to get.

and thru WvW player shouldnt give a rats ass about darn armor/skin lol all i ever wanted in WvW was PvP so having or not having a skin was none of my interest ever.

people who have solution to this build are stupid..
yes im a thief my self and ghost thief is kittened and shouldnt exist, tho if anet wouldnt constantly nerf thief and actually make thief usefull in all kinds of fight instead of nerfing and nerfing us then this kitten wouldnt have happend.

Straegen.2938:

Jacion.6302:

Still not Everquest…18years and 22 expansions

By that logic EQ is no UO which is still around.

In one year, WoW generated more revenue than every EQ title. Add in the cross over marketing, China release and each WoW expansion and WoW generated more revenue than pretty much every MMO combined. WoW is an unparalleled success and before its run is over will likely hold the most profitable game ever.

u did forgot to mention that WoW is also the reason why MMO’s are all utterly kitten now.
many many players do not want arena pvp
many players do not want a “map” setup for pvp only
many players do not want to follow kittenty quest in order to lvl
many players do not want dungeons to hide your kitten to lvl up/gear up

u see?
im coming from mmo where it took u days/weeks/months (depending on your lvl obviously) to lvl up it took u even longer to get gear.
the whole market was community driven etc quest where non sense u had to kill 100 mobs of x for y reward while 2 mobs in other zone would give u more XP reward already then whole quest would give u after 100 mobs.

this is what i want again.
raid spawned in open world u had to PvP for them in order to kill them, u didnt simply go to dungeon and do your silly raid in peace.
nope u had to get half your clan, one pt to kill raid multiple parties to deffend your kitten .

these are mmo’s where u find them now?
nowhere because every1 is little spoiled brat now, oooh if it has open world pvp i get ganked all the time by higher lvls its not fun
oooh if it has no quest i have to grind all the time its not fun
oooh if it has no dungeons then where is the content?

i mean i do not want content, i want to grind cus grind means pvp for XP spots.

and then not to mention wow has no impact on this but the free 2 play market that has turned almost every game into Pay 2 win.. hands down for gw2 for having a shop ingame that has no impact on the game at all.

tbh i just miss the good old korean grind games with open world pvp and no dungeons.

i do not believe u killed a engi the rest might be doable but any non afk engi will just soak up all your burst and rips you a new hole after.
so your full of crap im like you i constantly die to engi on my thief so i made engi my self and now im kitten all classes with no experience at all.

Siphon.8405:

Straegen.2938:

The Game Slayer.7632:

Stealth is fine when you are forced to reveal yourself to actually kill your opponent. This ghost thief build is 100% stealth and can still kill you. That’s absurdly broken.

I disagree. A 3s window to kill an attacker with a host of evades and teleports before they go back into stealth for long periods of time is not a well balanced mechanic. Stealth stacking should be removed. At least then stealth builds would have to “come up for air” every few seconds allowing some counter play. It also eliminates the Ghost Thief.

FYI A visible ghost thief is in trouble because they have to burn there only 2 dodges to generate caltrops and they don’t have room on there utility bar for teleports (traps are in that place)

A ghost thief literally has to burn his steal, both dodge rolls, and all his utility to take a target down. If this damage is cleansed or stun break is used then the trapper looses the kill entirely and the target runs away.

So in short conclusion a trapper thief has to burn his entire repertoire of utlity and dodge rolls, and steal to take down 1 target, how is that OP?

If he kills an entire group of players that refused to bring heal/cleanse support then you all deserve to die.

It’s WORLD vs WORLD vs WORLD not 5v5 sPvP. It’s not fair and it’s not an even matched game mode, it’s survival of the fittest.

BRING A BIGGER ARMY!

huh?
trapper thief needs only 1 trap, caltrops (or w/e name is) and then u have 1 slot free for anything
if u reveal a thief by standing in his blackpowder and he dies from this little time not being able to stealth he is doing something wrong.

cus he suppose to have all skills up (get away/heal skills/dodges) and hes suppose to have massive HP/Armor rate to not get instagibbed cus huehue we only need condi dmg for rest we stack vit/toughness.

so dunno about you but ghost thief is really easy to play u just cant chase people like daredevil thiefs. u just lurk somewhere and wait for idiot to pass by.

my thief is main i have played ghost thief its fun for about 5 mins.

people say its easy to counter, yes its but its not easy to kill.
i cant kill 1 on my thief i can pop him out of stealth i can stay alive, but i cant finish him its basically a endless fight. (didnt use stealth traps)

why this thief is so kittened is obvious in my eyes traps need to reveal you when triggered. especially now when anet decided that traps wherent enough of a treat yet that they boosted em.
the whole build can stay the same only thing anet has to do is:
A: change trapper runes
B: add reveal on triggering any trap.

so simple.

i hate thief nerfs since i think this class is really underpowered in WvW section (if we dont include roaming) but this ghost thief is just beyond boring..
imagine if ranger and DH’s could do the same u would have had 3 perma stealth classes everywhere ramming traps down on high traffic roads waiting for some1 to pass and almost instantly die.

yay the fun, comon lets get real and just fix it.

i just dont understand how you trigger the weapon swap sigil for 3 crits (forgot the name) constantly without even swapping your weapon.

or am i kittened? :o

Xenesis.6389:

Roaming should be much more enjoyable now!

is it? because of 1 less dodge?
if thiefs take the 50% endurance food i guess they wont notice much of a difference lmao.

enjoy the new more powerfull ghost thief tho…

and this why i dont bother anymore with gw2, balance anet pumps out are beyond kittened. thief didnt get shafted at all it shouldnt make much of a difference.
if they would nerf PI that would make sense if they would actually buff staff Ele it would make sense but nope they buff ele skills while somewhat decent ele is already near unkillable

Xenesis.6389:

reddie.5861:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z91H8Sdk7I

there u go 1 error/lucky interupt and thief is done.
thats what u never see, cus who cares if a thief dies he didnt harm u and what doesnt harm u doesnt need a nerf.

So many things wrong with that short clip. Obviously if you run away from a zerg on foot without using skills you’re going to get run over, you had more than enough time to chain port away and use stealth. Instead you ported once and turned around to face the zerg again while your commander was still running. You don’t have to turn your character around to look behind you, the camera is separate from your movement. Getting interrupted once and then dead to a zerg is not something unique to thieves.

Now you think that’s bad for a thief imagine the other classes getting left behind and don’t have port or stealth to get away, you have both those tools and didn’t bother to use them.

did u even pay attention?
first port got interupted, i hide i believe i got a guardian wall dumped infront of me by a wild guess of him.
i use signet to evade around cus porting at that point wouldnt get me anywhere.
then i got rekt.

i said no1 cares when a thief dies cus of a little error a thief dies my guardian would just roflol stomp through with all kitten he can pop.

who ever said many classes would have died there cus of no ports or stealth on demand, correct but these many classes are able to actually enjoy the blob fights while a thief cant.

at start of video i wanted to jump on the loner there i could have finished him, but i wouldnt be able to stomp him thus it was pointless to even jump on him.
every move a thief makes around blob fights have to be done so kittening carefully

with my guard/warrior i just dash in and enjoy the endless smashing till i die
with thief i dash in and im rally bot already.

u can nerf thief all u want, i personally barely play nowadays
but in my eyes the problem isnt thief the problem in wvw is the silly classes being played from day 1 till now. these need to be changed to change the whole WvW scene thief is the least of a problem in WvW.

there u go 1 error/lucky interupt and thief is done.
thats what u never see, cus who cares if a thief dies he didnt harm u and what doesnt harm u doesnt need a nerf.

for example if a ele uses meteor in a blob and he crit hits some1 for 10k no1 cares cus blob is cluster kitten fight and no1 bothers checking anything.
but what if ele meteor cast was instant and would rain down much faster? they would smash in 1v1 no? then ele is OP as hell no? cus all of sudden they get attention because they solo and when u 1v1 and u die fast its OP and reason to complain.

well thief can do the 1v1 part as trade off we cant do a jackkitten in a blob.
i dont see the problem tbfh.

as for vid who ever says im bad, sure im never said im good.
but please go live stream and put up full lenght of live stream of u followin commander in blob fights.
u stand no chance no1 will sacrifice a spot for thief in a good PT, unless u wanna proof a point and get ur bf commander to put u with 4 guards. so u dont get pushed/pulled/interupted constantly.

shall i login and make a video from me going with the blob? showing how usefull a thief is compare to many other classes that do have the range/sustain?

people who are getting smashed by a thief are getting mad but doesnt mean it needs a nerf

i really dont understand how you people die so quick to a thief.
even if i 1v1 thief on my thief, i dont die in 1 burst.

if i get jumped i still dont die in 1 burst i get the kitten away from it, maybe cus stealth on demand? or maybe cus im always aware that there might be people lurking around the corner.

but hey, u know what wrecks me in matter of seconds?
1 good placed elite skill from warrior headbutt or w/e its im dead after it lands.
engi’s im scratching their balls tbh they have same armor rating as u? but thief has nowhere near the amount of heals and deffensive options as engi.

tbh i dont really give a rats kitten if anet nerf thief i barely play nowadays, but i dont think thief is broken. if i could fight head to head with most classes without abusing my get away things or stealth id say go for it.
but a thief cant go simply head to head like almost every other class in this game can.

tell me thief role, should i go with the blob? dunno wtf to do with the blob stick on the back line while im a melee? but i cant be a melee cus i die in 1 second?

should i pick people off in the back of the enemy blob? yes i love doing this its great.
but dont forget that maaaaaaaaaaany times commanders on WvW have long kitten tail so u have constantly people coming from behind and if enemy commander turns around or just a few players ur dead again.

thief might have alot of options to fight in people’s eye, but in reality the only option we shine at is the silly ganking.
thief is completely out of his league in WvW if u look at what WvW is for and what role a thief can possibly fill in, cap camps solo woohoo any class can do it thief can just sneak by and not being seen making it harder for enemy predict.

give thief a role in WvW so they can stick with the blob and have somewhat decent way of staying alive then id say go for it remove the run away part.

apharma.3741:

5. This is incorrect, I have never said the opposite to thief is only good at small scale, you can go through my post history if you don’t believe me. I’ve said about resetting above but will repeat, before HoT resetting a fight for thief would burn a lot more resources than with HoT.

pre hot i could make a gap of 3,9k range within a flash.
now people can make 3x 450 (if all dodges are up which i guess not) well lets do 6x cus people use signet to run away (i dont but lets just make it more OP to make every thief hater happy)
so 6×450 2700 + 1200 = 3,9k range.

woops?

told you, arena net kitten d ACRO line and s/d
then buffed all this kitten back into game through Daredevil trait + fact that d/p always was superior over S/D but after nerfs anet did and then basically adding S/D goodies in a trait so D/P got even more power..

OriOri.8724:

reddie.5861:

OriOri.8724:

apharma.3741:

Mobility or stealth should be an investment and a choice between mobility or stealth, not both, that’s what’s destroyed roaming in WvW since WvW was a thing.

Could not have put it better myself. No build should have high access to both mobility and stealth. Just like no build should have high access to self sustain and raw damage. Together, while it might not be overpowered, its definitely broken and a poor design.

so Warrior and DH are OP in your eyes also?
u guys all make no sense, thief is OP while u mention other kitten that suits other classes perfectly but these classes are fine.

do u guys not realise all Elites are OP, one shines at X and other shines at Y at the end all have something extra that is OP in the eyes of a other class.

only problem in WvW is:
Siege (arrow carts especially)
Dumb kitten classes favored in zergs (because OP stability darn thief useless need a boost so we can join zergs also, no?)
Conditions give tons of dmg which is fine but let people sacrifice something also like u cant have massive power build + tons of HP and toughness or w/e

theres prolly more but i barely login anymore nowadays, since i find thief not OP enough yet to enjoy it.
no just dont enjoy WvW anymore its to kittened how people enjoy big laggy(server lag skill delay w/e u call it) over small scale fights.

I think that all of the elite specs are still overpowered or just plain broken in design, and yes that would include both DH and berserker. I never said they were fine.

And by the way, saying “All elite specs are overpowered and are broken in design” is not a good excuse to keep them that way.

i didnt say to keep them that way, but lets be realistic.
a thief defence is run away, correct? so we have been given the kitten to do so.
a warrior defence is constant HP ticks blocks invul to raw dmg etc
a DH defence invul tons of ways to heal
a mesmer def invul / blocks
a rev def block(or invul w/e its) this HP back on hit works like a charm when u have kittens around that keep hitting
a scrapper def, do they even need def? they regen more HP then avarage class can dish out in dmg
a necro well necro just sucks hooray give em a boost
a Ele a good ele (even i can do it and im nowhere near pro) can handle a thief perfectly fine (i mean like running to safety without dieing, infact id kitten on thief dont even need to run could wait also for back up)
a ranger has invul has stealth has massive freaking range to take advantage off

i mean they all have something, if thiefs had blocks and invuls (dont tell me that 1 kittenty block skill is gonna safe our asses) or even access to stab without having to use a kittenty elite it would make sense that thief mobility is way to much.
but thief has nothing but the hit’n’run tactic.

pre hot i could have more or less same amount of evades if not more as we have now
they decided to nerf acro trait line they decide to nerf S/D
they decided to buff everything towards D/P
then they realised they made a mistake and decide to pump all kitten back ingame through Daredevil trait, so D/P got access to kitten S/D was doing Pre hot already

meaning D/P got it all while S/D has lost all its goodies to every weapon out there cus of Daredevil trait line being so silly fix of what they did pre HoT.

Zero Day.2594:

Considering this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/5uupy0/wing_4_boss_1_daredevil_solo_5700/

The community won’t allow for a thief buff.

who cares about pve?
in PvE everything is possible when u fight brainless npc’s if ur going to boost or nerf classes based on PvE then anet is beyond horrible.

OriOri.8724:

apharma.3741:

Mobility or stealth should be an investment and a choice between mobility or stealth, not both, that’s what’s destroyed roaming in WvW since WvW was a thing.

Could not have put it better myself. No build should have high access to both mobility and stealth. Just like no build should have high access to self sustain and raw damage. Together, while it might not be overpowered, its definitely broken and a poor design.

so Warrior and DH are OP in your eyes also?
u guys all make no sense, thief is OP while u mention other kitten that suits other classes perfectly but these classes are fine.

do u guys not realise all Elites are OP, one shines at X and other shines at Y at the end all have something extra that is OP in the eyes of a other class.

only problem in WvW is:
Siege (arrow carts especially)
Dumb kitten classes favored in zergs (because OP stability darn thief useless need a boost so we can join zergs also, no?)
Conditions give tons of dmg which is fine but let people sacrifice something also like u cant have massive power build + tons of HP and toughness or w/e

theres prolly more but i barely login anymore nowadays, since i find thief not OP enough yet to enjoy it.
no just dont enjoy WvW anymore its to kittened how people enjoy big laggy(server lag skill delay w/e u call it) over small scale fights.

whats the problem with thief?
today i ran with blob for once again, got hit for 12k and kissed the ground instantly (yes i have more HP then 12k but with few red circles on the ground my HP is rapidly below 12k)
i didnt even know what happend it was like i got hit by a lighting strike i ran in boom dead, gf.

the joy of a thief, cant be among blob.
and outside blobs every1 is whining like a little kitten cus they cant win versus thief.

here take my advice, if u cant win from thief stick ur fist up ur commanders kitten and he will never get near you, if u do happen to die wait on respawn till u can re apply ur fist in his kitten .

this whining about classes that are not even allowed to join any squad cus they are good for nothing but rally botting is pathetic.
yes if u solo roam thiefs will kitten you if u dont know how to counter thief.

what ur saying is pls anet
thief is beyond terrible at blobbing, but they shine at solo roaming.
Can you pretty please make them beyond terrible at solo roaming also so my blob class can safely walk back to my commander cus now im very very scared that some thief is lurking in the shadows.

as for digikid, i rather fight a DH then a mesmer on my thief same for warrior.
i dont know mesmer play style and i get wrecked most of the time by em simply cus i dont put time and will into figuring out how mesmer works.
but smashing a warrior / DH is for me far easier then mesmer
also Druid is kitten easy to beat.

xXMapcoXx.9614:

WvWvW is open world pvp isn’kitten I’m not wrong right? if you go in there you should know that any enemy player can/will/are gonna kill you right? then why the kitten are we told “don’t mess with duelers or people doing gvg” they got pvp arenas and kittening guild halls for that kitten tired of of seeing people talk about dont killed these people! Its open world pvp for kitten sake! If you go into it expect to be kittening murdered end of god kitten story.

then go kill them and dont cry on the forum..
its just few obvious spots where people duel, if u feel the need to kill them go there and kill em.
im afraid u got ur kitten smashed while multiple people from your server where watching u die. Thus made u rage and come to the forum.

at the end no1 cares if u kill people who duel no1 cares if u join into a GvG, just dont expect help from others who do respect some simple “rules”

thats how most DE/SP servers roll bunker up towers / keeps with 298239854038943 arrow carts and they enjoy it.
thus why i dont like WvW anymore, people dont fight anymore.
either hide behind tons of sieges or behind massive blob finding some people willing to fight is quite rare.
unless i go to the usual spot ill have my 1v1’s but i prefer the random encounter 1v1 or 2v1’s

who cares man? this game has like 8/9 really addictive tools trying to think this game is Esport worthy, meaning if u make team from these 8/9 people u already won gw2.
then u wonder why anet has no interest?

real esport games has multiple teams and rising players smashing you off the top this game has nothing, im not into pvp scene but im pretty sure the same big names have been floating around for ages already.

i dunno why u guys complain about condi’s

im a thief when i happen to be in squad i walk thru every circle on ground and i dont give a rats kitten about conditions aslong my zerg is near me i wont die from that crap.
only time condi is a kitten is when ur in small group or solo.

im all in for changing condi, but dont give these frontline kitten classes even more the upper hand by making some stat that front line tools already have high even more needed..

i dont care, i play thief perma and i get squad invites when commander try to get started and kicked later on when he need slots.
nowadays i dont even accept invite and i just roam around the blob im barely ever there where the commander is.

its a choice u made tho, i want to be thief i dont need to sit back on blob crap.
u want to be druid u can solo perfectly fine also
mesmer can solo fine aswell
and scrapper is just beyond me kitten is strong as kitten.

i understand u wanna be with the blob then play what blob needs the most in order to succeed and dont play classes that dont bring much.

btw i think my healing power ele out heals every druid on the field without a problem so i wouldnt scream to hard about out healing ele’s
not every1 playing power ele.

fluffdragon.1523:

Heck, yesterday I decided to roam around in the (quite underpopulated) Silverwastes

im like reading and reading and then he says i decided to roam and i was like and now i wonder how that worked out, and then.

silverwaste. the kitten? in pve u can even play with just dagger main hand and nothing off hand cus everything works in there lol.

Vavume.8065:

reddie.5861:

Straegen.2938:

Did I miss the “build” part or is it in the vanity video somewhere?

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQJAqKWcKq5wP9ffvRYFOPuAoAGAA
then something with very low crit rate / power as armor and runes w/e helps with bleed / condi dmg

happy?

Very close, one trait was wrong, swap Havoc mastery for weakening strikes.

thats bit weird tho, u barely crit im aware that u also barely strike from within that distance so i wasnt sure what to pick at this trait.

since all 3 are kinda “crap” for your build