Guild Wars 2

Straegen.2938:

Did I miss the “build” part or is it in the vanity video somewhere?

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQJAqKWcKq5wP9ffvRYFOPuAoAGAA
then something with very low crit rate / power as armor and runes w/e helps with bleed / condi dmg

happy?

condi + thief = nope, i dont really understand why people play condi thief.
its such a baller mad fast get in get out toon and then u have people who choose to play with condi’s >.<

if thief is so OP why people dont go play 1 and steam roll through sPvP?
im playing thief but if i could enjoy mesmer or DH or even engi id play em cus they are far better..
mesmer is just easy mode cupcake huehue i put condi and i go invul / other rotations bullcrap (and they people say condi thief is aids)
DH just bunkers everything and slams down kittened traps all over the place.
engi is just fun.

thief would be OP if we could actually join in on team fights, but we cant cus of condi and random dmg flying around we are dead in matter of seconds with our mad amount of cleanses and invul we have available.

Kiss is by far most active, im not on deso but i see em most often as enemy i dont even know “aim or look”.
then again i dont play that much either so doesnt mean much i guess

vove.2768:

Today I had pretty much fun playing wvw until enemy zerg came to sm, then another one. As you can figure out lag was unbearable, I couldn’t even switch my weapons not to mention using any skills.

At the moment I would say the skill lag is determining factor in victory when you play wvw. Without lag we wiped few waves of enemy zergs, including one wave with around 15 golems (some of them omega) and we didn’t even have a comm! Once the lag kicked in our effectiveness started to slowly go down and in the end I don’t know if we finally defended sm or not, I just couldn’t take it anymore and left.

It makes me wonder, will wvw ever be fixed? Why does anet ignore the problem? They promised in 2013 the fix is on its way.

THREE YEARS HAVE PASSED AND NOTHING HAS CHANGED!!!!!

Wvw is basically about dealing with the skill lag. You don’t fight against enemy players, you fight against anet’s servers.

this why u play guardian, 1 1 1 1 11 111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
any class that requires more then smashing 1 1 1 1 cant be played properly in zergs.

i always get told im a nub, while i just stomped em.

this applies 99% of the time towards non international servers tho.

EU is fine, apart from fact that X servers wanna fight and dont give a rats kitten about PPT, while other servers wanna PPT and avoid fights like a plague.

the non international servers dont really wanna fight and they should get linked with international servers.. so freaking boring having jade sea and abadon mounth or w/e server name is..
AM people if u dont hit em fast enough all way point away. yay i play WvW to WP if kitten hits the fan instead of trying to fight.
JS you never see them cus they will hop on w/e map has no resistance.

right now our server alone(fsp)
has more kills together then
AM + JS together so imagine how much fun these match ups are no1 wants to fight all they wanna do is go from tower/keep to next karma train

Deathrubber.3861:

JonnyForgotten.4276:

But they would make more sense swapped. . . it’s something I would like to see. Doesn’t matter though. I play gingerbread man, so everyone hates my opinion

ye the venoms functionality is so bad, even if leeching venoms would be in DA u couldnt use one excpept basilisk in competitive play. the (oh so bad) condition thieves rely as i said above on defensive utilties as well, may leaving room for one single venom in profession skills but impairing daggers will always be the better option compared to any venom. so to me this is just a piece of bad work.

works fine if u just want loot bags in WvW, share when blob groups up move around a little on every share so more random people get a share once the groups go head to head u easily get enough condi dmg done for bags meanwhile u just spam poison on the ground with shortbow.
effective as in killing? nope, does it get u easy a good amount of bags? Yup.

1 or 2 wins away from going into gold, i never really play sPvP i have no idea about rotations nor i keep up with what skills people used to know when to burst etc..

its not so hard to get higher on EU also i just think for people that are stuck in bronze and think they dont belong there might get kittenty teams all the time pulling them down in ranks, so id say go duo with some1 that claims he doesnt belong in bronze also so u can have max 3 kittenty team members instead of 4

mara armor zerker trinkets is what i use, mara weapons also.

as for d/p over D/d
simply cus d/p stealth on the spot is far superior to CnD if u got gap already and all u can do is stealth to safe your balls then your kittened on your D/D build cus u have to get back to your enemy or find a mob/wall/w/e is hit able.

tho i run w/e weapon set sometimes i run d/p s/d having ripping boons on interupt on my pistol and just headshot if they get close ill start rapping boons with S/D just for the fun of it.

thief works fine on many weapons even tho people insist on d/p which is idd in advantage most of the time but it doesnt mean the other weapons are crap.

Asahi.1487:

LOL ok since no1 believes this. I went and tried it out.
This build is so easy, a monkey can play it. I hit more than 22k on a guardian on my first couple tries. Removed rage pm from victim, but WOW the hardest thing on this build is to hit 2 buttons at once!

http://imgur.com/fDDftSP

Nerf plz!

play it enjoy it, bet ull cry over the fact that u cant get a kitten done beside bringing people into downstate and then look from the side line cus u have nothing anymore for next 20? 30? 40? seconds

i prefer my build less dmg but atleast i dont relay on some signets and a backstab.

Zero.3871:

reddie.5861:

equip staff, press 1 1 1 1 1 1 while spinning your mouse around and enjoy loot bags thats why..

guardian is so easy to play and gets most loot bags during a fight why wouldnt people play it, plus the fact that Anet makes stability a MUST for WvW its kinda a must and a easy class to play

i love your humor xD
if you do that, you play the guardian COMPLETLY WRONG and COPMLETLY USELESS and this has nothing to do with guardians buildplays. if you do that you dont get lootbags ,but you become a lootbag for enemies xD.

i dont play guard anymore so i guess my enemies lost +1 free loot bag even tho i barely ever died on guard and even if i did go into rally mode i tagged whole enemy blob so i would rally up within seconds..

dunno how one can play guard wrong u just dump your kitten on the ground and press stab when kitten get ruff or when ur going to storm into a blob.
its not a rocket science class.

id love to play my thief is mindless as i played guard but i cant even make it inside the blob without losing more then 50% of my HP

equip staff, press 1 1 1 1 1 1 while spinning your mouse around and enjoy loot bags thats why..

guardian is so easy to play and gets most loot bags during a fight why wouldnt people play it, plus the fact that Anet makes stability a MUST for WvW its kinda a must and a easy class to play

its a kittenty build that PvE players use because what if they see me im insta dead..

dunno how people enjoy killing other dummies while not doing a jackkitten but follow a person in stealth waiting for your condis to do the job.

i personally rather die, while trying hard then having to follow someone in hide.
PS the build sucks any non kitten will smash your face, or simply run away from ya.

couldnt give a rats kitten about stealth traps cus i barely ever stealth on thief anyway

/facepalm im ashamed for my self im stealthing out of here

thats for stolen skills but basilisk venom instantly resets on part i linked to you.

because people tend to leave (enemy) from home bl moment they realise they cant take something.

if u look at EBG design all have a keep which people find important thus they have a reason to stick around for deffenders and attackers.
If home borderland is red border then i understand no1 wants to deffend, these borderlands are worthless..

https://youtu.be/W-ecrUFifSY?t=43s

how that works? insta reset on basi, i dont play enough anymore to keep up to date with stuff but i cant figure it out.

wait wait!
let me use every single skill i have before i attack to 1 shot 1 guy in a zerg that will get ressed by 10/20 people around him within a flash.

yes that sure does need a nerf! it takes 10 people to press 1 once and hes down he doesnt have anything in his deffence left after he ported in beside a port back.

top of that who kitten wants to kill the commander anyway?
this is what i dont understand from many servers, u do not kill the commander man sometimes we just storm into enemy to die in order to keep them on the map to farm more bags. in any case do not focus commander.

so build is pointless for me cus i cba to wait 40 seconds or w/e CD’s are to kill 1 person everytime.

depending what means evening for you?

gmt +1? then i guess deso and FSP are both fine
if your talking about sometimes that do not match up with euro times then i dont know.
i think none has really active night crew anymore (deso/fsp) prolly cus none in EU gives a rats kitten about winning and staying on top these days..

we all just want fights (atleast that goes for FSP which is my server), commanders are active every evening till around ~00:00 +1gmt (maybe longer but i cant enjoy the no life play all day anymore :p) tho i guess deso is the same.
but you really will have to pinpoint your time zone down in order to figure out if the server is actually good for your time zone.

Svarty.8019:

Warcry.1596:

Crapgame.6519:

PvE crowd won this game once ascended was even introduced. Camelot Unchained can’t come soon enough.

Kind of like how Blade and Soul couldn’t come soon enough? Or Black Desert? Or Wildstar? Or ESO?

MMO specialist, DocGotGame is recommending Archeage’s new 3.0 fresh start for PvP, though it’s not WvW/RvR.
… but all WvW fans are watching Crowfall and Camelot Unchained.

I’m amazed how poorly WvW has been treated, considering that it’s easily the best aspect of GW2. What will GW2 be remembered for? Raids? Fracdulls? Living Story? I think not. It’ll be remembered (fondly, despite Anet’s neglect and our disappointment) for WvW.

I feel like I just typed an obituary.

doc is a hypocrit guy.
first of all he never played a proper PvP game, second of all he always runs with amazing zergs third he always said wow was theme park world mmo and now hes playing it like a carebear.

maybe im wrong but a PvP “player” to me means ur capable of doing it all and not just running around with a zerg smashing, havent seen him ever going around solo or with small gank squad.

i dont understand why people care for AP to start off with?
even if mobs would give AP on every mob u kill i wouldnt go kill them i just dont understand why AP is important to some people while its the last thing i care about in this game.

remove it from the game all together and i wont even notice

fighting versus condition idiots while anet give em the amazing way of being able to bunker up like idiots while dishing out 3/4k dmg a tick.

i dont want anything thief is fine for me, just wanna see rest of the weapons being used.
they dont need to do more dmg if u all think that, i would just love to see how s/d for example would be able to strip more boons faster making it in some cases far better then d/p and that way we see all kinds of thiefs.

right now theres really no use for other weapons ingame cus d/p over comes all at most situations.

wvw is non sense zerg tactic anyway.

for example taking 10 rangers 10 thiefs 5 ele 5 warriors
vs
any guardian + w/e bullkitten will always win.
some classes are just beyond useless in the zerg mode and tactics are non sense cus certain classes cant just storm into the zerg to make them self usefull

if thiefs could jump into middle of a zerg and still diss out dmg like they do now + survive they would be wanted.
if rangers would actually just hit the target they have selected and not each kittenface infront of em it might help them also.

KrHome.1920:

reddie.5861:

Fsp when i came never really went after the crappy PPT all they wanted was fights they would slam on ur doors on garri just to make you port so we had fights no1 had intention to take ur garri..

True. Everytime we face FSP they take our garri and then 30v10 spawncamp/-gank us for hours each night. Great fun I can tell you!

fsp isnt fsp anymore for long time lol.
pre HoT fsp wasnt giving a kitten about PPT i didnt play for a while when hot got released and what is left of FSP now is not much to what it was commander wise.
people come and go but the commanders that did prefer fights over caps are mostly gone.

dunno when u got spawn camped i have been fighting in garri’s ye but commander was saying on TS to not kill lord or not cap it just to get more loot bags comming.

Junkpile.7439:

reddie.5861:

id join riverside now that upgrades matter and every1 sits on their sorry kitten on cannons/arrowcarts w/e does dmg from behind walls its ur best bet to get “fights”

this upgrades matters towards PPT sucks hard. never seen such a crap fights since today (yes this is my first login since they did that update.)

fighting 5v5 or w/e and u have (5v8 in this case) 2 cupcakes banging from cannons constantly and 1 from mortar.

as for last guy, SFR was bad always been bad.
u got nightcover? u got ur nr1 spot on EU its that simple any server can do it.
what happend? well i believe FSP cracked their nuts and they started to drop down the list slowly.

To be fair FSP was bad before SFR players transfered there. I still remember when siegerazer kidd ink outplayed enemies 1 vs 4 situations in tier 1, while FSP was still in tier 100 or something.

in all honestly i have been on SFR..

4?5? years ago (doesnt really matter) i decided FoW just didnt fit my style anymore for WvW, so like every bandwagon i wanted sfr/deso dunno why i went sfr but i was so sad i blown all this gems on a server that in my eyes was WORSE then FoW.
it took me 2 or 3 days to leave for FSP and i never regret that move.

FSP mind set was completely different to SFR
Fsp when i came never really went after the crappy PPT all they wanted was fights they would slam on ur doors on garri just to make you port so we had fights no1 had intention to take ur garri..

thats why i liked FSP more then SFR, sfr did nothing but trying to dominate by PPT they didnt go for the fights.
i dont think FSP give many SFR commanders a warm welcome so i dunno what your on about. Yes nowadays i barely play but from what i have seen most FSP players are cursing at SFR people for whatever reason for me it doesnt matter where u played or why u came to other server but when i see the chat i wouldnt feel welcome as a SFR player.

As for t1 or t2 or t3 (think fsp was always t3)
again i have to admit when FSP wanted to push for T1 they easily did it.
That week we was T1 i didnt even play, Deso/SFR never give fights they deffend their stuff but on open maps they avoid everything like a plague so i never liked FSP being T1 server so it doesnt matter that FSP was tire 100 in your eyes tire 100 was with piken who was fighting like bosses also and some other server i forgot name off.

kittening dots make me mad i dont like it at all. (yes i did turn it off.)

id join riverside now that upgrades matter and every1 sits on their sorry kitten on cannons/arrowcarts w/e does dmg from behind walls its ur best bet to get “fights”

this upgrades matters towards PPT sucks hard. never seen such a crap fights since today (yes this is my first login since they did that update.)

fighting 5v5 or w/e and u have (5v8 in this case) 2 cupcakes banging from cannons constantly and 1 from mortar.

as for last guy, SFR was bad always been bad.
u got nightcover? u got ur nr1 spot on EU its that simple any server can do it.
what happend? well i believe FSP cracked their nuts and they started to drop down the list slowly.

jup dont aim for top servers in EU they are boring, i used to love FSP but now that many bandwagons joined its a crappy server (Depending on commander im not PPT kitten so i dont like these commanders also)

i dont think u can pick wrong on EU tbh servers seem to fall and raise randomly nowadays.

this kitten only happends on NA cus for some reason people on NA dont like PvP but prefer PPT all day long vs same kittenty servers.
EU is perfectly fine no1 get team bagged and no1 gives a rats kitten about T1 or T2 or T3 all give equal amount of good fights infact sometimes ur better off on T2 T3 then T1 if ur looking for fights so who cares?

btw its NA community that “destroys” ur WvW its not up to Anet/devs to fix this.

Ulion.5476:

reddie.5861:

wasnt gift of battle just 500 badges before all this kitten?

Yes and any wvwer that was going for a legendary bought some of those before it was stopped. Its the pve that did not read the patch note. They got all upset after it was taken out because they did not see the warning.

dont see the problem anyway, i dont wanna do pve stuff and ill never have legendary.
on the other hand i dont really give a kitten but why should PvE be reward with all kitten and WvW doesnt get anything good.

wasnt gift of battle just 500 badges before all this kitten?

you do realise switching between attunements with no CD will give u the most overpowered kittened up immortal build ever?
i mean im no good Ele nor im playing sPvP with ele but my ele barely dies in WvW mainly cus of the attunements swapping if u remove CD i wont die at all unless i get sucked up into a zone blob.

little bit offensive but, only kittens from eu play on NA and only kittens from NA play on EU.

u wanna fight? play ur timezone enjoy fights, u wanna PvE in WvW map? go be a kitten or just dont WvW at all if u dont wanna fight for stuff..
yes i couldnt give a rats kitten about PPT in WvW

already ripping boons for months..
using interupt sigel also to rip another 1 when using headshot + steal + RS + s/d

np i enjoy it

2 equally skilled thiefs no matter how bad or good skilled they are, the D/P will always wreck the w/e else weapon set thief.

why? because all other weapon sets are either to slow or have been hit so hard by thief nerfs cus of weapon set D/P which has been toned down to “normal” while rest of weapon sets have been toned down to “useless”

this is also quite obvious cus beside condition thiefs every thief runs D/P if they need to play serious.

u plan to nerf stealth in order to get buff on something else?
funny guy (yes i play S/D thief) but d/p is just far superior to S/D with or without stealth u dont need to nerf stealth thief just need to get stronger in other ways not with stealth not with mobility.

every class has it place in gw2 except thief (unless u play PvE which i have no clue about) nerfing stealth will just be the end of thief

we dont have stab
we dont have tons of cleanse
we dont have sustain
we dont have massive HP pool
we dont really have anything beside the hit n run tactic or hit n hide.

even tho i do not play d/p i do not approve this suggestion cus when i do play d/p once in a while i enjoy it cus of the stealthing and if u face a proper player ur stealth from blackpowder wont save your kitten at all.

tbh with you i play thief also 90% of the time but i just do not understand how u enjoy this dumb playstyle i mean i rather die 10 times then hiding 24/7 waiting for dumb tools to come by that dont clean CC and or stand in middle of a dot dmg circle.

but if u enjoy this gameplay go ahead and enjoy i guess :p
in my eyes this is most kittened way of playing any char waiting for conditions to do the job while knowning your enemy stand no chance i dont even wanna fight if i know some1 cant win at all its boring :p

for people who insist stealth needs to be nerfed no it doesnt.
casting any skill that does dmg tru dot or direct dmg ( this already is in obviously) should get you out of stealth simple as that. problem solved no need to look into stealth stacking cus many other thiefs out there dont relay on stealth to kill but its more of a deffensive thing.

Aeolus.3615:

reddie.5861:

katniss.6735:

Because it’s dumb right now.
Most obnoxious: Thief (you could play with a blindfold on)
2nd: Warrior (doesn’t take skill)
3rd: Trap ranger (takes skill)
Debatable: Mesmer (due to stealth, double blink, and alacrity). PU condi needs nerf for other reasons than movement. It’s probably the most successful solo roamer, but it takes somewhat skill to be unkillable.

TL;DR: Nerf thief.

how about nerf guardian ele and necro and rev

so ull see zergs of thief spamming 1 1 1 1 1 with back line of rangers and mesmers spamming wells and some random warrior is not welcome in the squad cus he is too slow to keep up.

welcome to thiefs world..
not welcome anywhere not being able to join the zergs cus u get rekt by all conditions/1 1 11 11 staff guardians or even better the lag is so real u cant even play thief cus thief sadly doesnt require only 1 1 1 11 1 and this lag doesnt let u do anything beside 1 1 1 1.

guards are fine… only the traps need its CD changed, as in start CD after Hit, like SW….
If u cry of guardian blocks ur one of those players that only spams 1,1,1, straightfoward :P, a guardian w/o those blocks would get reckt faster than a thief in a zerg.

And rev needs to sacrifice more damage with the hammer CoR spam.. or be a single hit skill…

i dont cry about anything, but people cry about thief being able to kitten ur kitten when u try to get ur kitten back to a zerg.
well then me from thief point of view get to cry about guardians / ele / necro / rev no? cus i cant beat their kitten in a zerg also.

my point is thief is least played class in all game types so i dont understand why the nerf

katniss.6735:

Because it’s dumb right now.
Most obnoxious: Thief (you could play with a blindfold on)
2nd: Warrior (doesn’t take skill)
3rd: Trap ranger (takes skill)
Debatable: Mesmer (due to stealth, double blink, and alacrity). PU condi needs nerf for other reasons than movement. It’s probably the most successful solo roamer, but it takes somewhat skill to be unkillable.

TL;DR: Nerf thief.

how about nerf guardian ele and necro and rev

so ull see zergs of thief spamming 1 1 1 1 1 with back line of rangers and mesmers spamming wells and some random warrior is not welcome in the squad cus he is too slow to keep up.

welcome to thiefs world..
not welcome anywhere not being able to join the zergs cus u get rekt by all conditions/1 1 11 11 staff guardians or even better the lag is so real u cant even play thief cus thief sadly doesnt require only 1 1 1 11 1 and this lag doesnt let u do anything beside 1 1 1 1.

Dawdler.8521:

reddie.5861:

what can i get as unique thing from WvW?

A commander beatboxing on TS.

Just to name one random thing.

so far i have only heard them rap!
Dodge left, bombs on me push forward, stab 1 stab 2 balabaalaba like some auction guy or a rapper.

to bad WvW doesnt have anything good on its own tho. Wont quit was just wondering if i missed something out reward tracks are nice but what if we get reward tracks from fractals for example?

i mean i never really did fractals people insist it makes ~2g a run what if i get 2g each “run” in WvW id be mad rich also..
then again i do not want to attract every1 towards WvW that is only playing for its reward i just wanna work for something also.

First of all id like to say im nowhere near a hardcore player or whatsoever, im playing casual just for fun but only WvW.

what i was wondering about is (not even sure if im correct since i said im not paying attention to the game) what can i get as unique thing from WvW?

i mean PvE has easy acces to ascended items through fractals
sPvP i believe has these wings? maybe PvE also

but is there anything i can get through WvW which is ONLY way to obtain it?
i love WvW but it seems to have nothing unique, i wanna craft a precursor but i stopped cus i had to go fractals i didnt like it.
i have to farm a gold thru WvW which is freaking hard because i happend to enjoy Thief which is not a lootbag machine like other classes so farming Gold / Mats in WvW is hard also for me.

Im aware of fact that the things i want take time which is fine im not asking for easy things but atm for me WvW feels like i cant work towards anything cus it has disadvantage on everything u wanna do in gw2.

people who say go do PvE or whatever no i wont i only play GW2 for WvW also i wont cry for option to be added, all im asking is if im missing something out on WvW that could lead me towards some fancy skins or whatever.

Buy Some Apples.6390:

Tongku.5326:

2. Combat system. Its very fluid, flexible, allows for different tactics and group strategies.

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Sorry skill lag
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thus is why i left SFR 2 years ago if not longer to join FoW, WvW always been like that 2 blobs storm at each other
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heuhue if ur class doesnt have a 1 1 1 1 option u cant do a kitten because its lagging like hell.

thus why im not fan of server linking also since the less populated servers sometimes have more interesting fights then the brainless blob fights.
even tho did move to FSP to join up some friends a year ago or something still missing the old small scale fights in FoW tho but thats all over since everything is linked nowadays >.<.

Straegen.2938:

Druid, thief, mesmer are going to the most complimentary builds to run in small scale with a thief. We run two thieves, one power and one condi. We consistently take on 2-3 times our number usually downing 2+ before scurrying off for a reset.

so 2v4 turns into 2v3 cus who ever recieve first gank from 2 thiefs is insta dead.
2 thiefs vs 3 people should be a easy win unless these 3 actually work together cus 99% of people running around in WvW just try to get to a commander and only talk/listen to that specefic person and not the 50 randoms around him.

so because u cant kill something means it needs a nerf the nr1 most wanted class in WvW/sPvP obviously needs a nerf..

im playing thief and if u pay attention to his signets u can tell how many dodges the boy has left
3 dodges + 3 more if signet is used + 2 more if he has the healing skill so let say he can do 9 dodges in a fast way then he has to use his skills.

maybe you all did some bullcrap in the water or on land cus thief is not gonna survive 15 people near him

these trap thiefs are pathetic (coming from a thief) i do agree also once trap is triggered they should be revealed. simple as that, i personally fight these trap thiefs just fine i dunno if thief vs thief makes the difference but i just ram down a reveal trap and wait.

none the less, i also understand why people play like this cus any other build (without d/p) is far less powerfull and maybe these guys just wanna troll around till they buffed up their weapon set again.

depends how good u know thief..
decent warrior will wreck thief, if thief has no condi cleanse any condi tit will kitten thief.

thief is not so hard too beat. its just that thief is 90% of the time choosing when too attack and when to get the kitten out while u have no choice in these situations.

shadowplay > steal = stealth = spam 1111 + boon steal = +5 boons and backstab land 100%