Guild Wars 2

better calm down, lately all mmo’s coming out are being pubilished so good, once they are out pay2win takes over and ruins whole mmo..

left my old mmo after playing it for ~7 years cus they went f2p and went from okay cash shop to horrible till point that u had no choice either dont PvP anymore or buy from store..
this why i love gw2 they have cash shop but nothing in there effects PvP in a way that forces u to buy also or just suck it up and have alot less stats.. thus why gw2 got my love for now..

i tried archeage but its exactly the same farm for ingame currency to be able to compete or dont and u wont be able to compete among top..
new mmo’s are just so into this f2p model where cash shop basically yields alot more income then a sub..

i saw black desert was buy 2 play but with a cash shop no? i like the game so far but i lost my hype towards mmo’s ill gently sit back now till things settle down to see if its as good as people claim it was..

BlaqueFyre.5678:

Grand Prat what you suggest are just Nerfs, nerfs are what put Thieves in this state, I hope Anet realizes the State of thieves because of these Gimmicky builds, which have lots of built in counter to them if players weren’t lazy,or used them, all classes have varying access to forced reveal, all classes can stand in the black powder aoe, all classes have access to condi cleanse, if the players use the mechanics Anet gave them instead of choosing the “better” option for utility, if you are dying to this build apparently it’s not the better option, yes I find this build pointless but Anet knew exactly how this spec would interact in game since you know it’s the reason they took direct damage from traps.

think saying one should stand in blackpowder is quite easy to say but harder to do..

first of all u dont know where thief is thus u might be looking wrong way and react to late not all classes have ports etc.
second of all thief is quite mobile (which is good) so he could gain distance far quicker then you can prolly so like i said getting into blackpowder sounds easy but its alot harder when u dont know where to look.. yes on the ground lil red circle i know i know but when im in hide you have no clue where im running too u dont know where to look u have to scan a whole lot of land to find my lil circle..

as for the guy who answered me i didnt say how to kill these thiefs, i just said people who run this build are in my eyes just terrible players who are not looking for a good fight but want to win at all cost, which means im pointing at the THIEF :P not the players who die from the thief..

GrandPat.7916:

Hey, I’m a nec since this match in wvw, I saw a thief with trap always stealthy, no ways to kill hims with staff or scepter area….
And of course, can’t be focus by any sigil or corrup skills, I have tried to escape with no result….

I have seen two guards/Ranger/Ele be killed like sh.. in some sec or mins. (And this is chars who can clean them easily..)

I understand stealthy is really important for Thief like mesmer but use and abuse the stealthy from trap + usefull like heal who give stealthy + combo D/P for perma stealthy…. is really unfair for other char in wvw.

I don’t know how to nerf to be not unfair with thief….. So I post this message to discuss on this, and maybe to be listen by developers….

I post too the build I think he or she use (not complete because I’m not a Genius and I don’t know the totally) :
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZUQRAoa6IlsMh2mYzTgeOOkJK/W4D55QLcD69cKCAA-TVA7AAw+DAA-w

In YouTube I have seen this video and I’m pretty sure, it is like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ELKKJ5PjQA

nerf the runes problem solved?

tbh with you, if people play like this they are just terrible players..
what is more fun then killing something that cant even fight back? i mean no offense but if 50 people would line them self up in WvW waiting to be killed without fighting back you have same effect..
you might aswell go do some PvE for people using this tactic because mobs are just as easy as playing in this style…

but ye nerf the rune it self problem solved..

i dont think i need to get out of stealth in order to apply my venoms.. i could test this but i would say go test it your self and proof me wrong..

steal apply hide on use
pretty sure steal also apply the venoms when u use it succesfully

thus means > apply venoms etc blaab but since trait give stealth on use it doesnt reveal you i might be wrong but then again, most trapper kids are p/d hueuheuehue backstab > run.

its quite simple nerf the rune problem solved..
or just nerf hide in general from mesmer also i couldnt give a kitten. (coming from a thief)

i love it, i hate servers that bunker their whole tower/keep with AC’s and when all doors are open they all run like kitten, instead of trying to deffend with a fight..

+1 to this amazing nerf
cant even use a AC on my server commander will simply run away from you and let you die or let enemy kill the AC we dont like AC’s we want fights without siege crap being used…

hate all these PPT warriors, go for kills per tick! fight lose or win no1 cares..

playing thief main char
playing mostly WvW

played trapper build, if Anet would nerf it i couldnt give a rats kitten ..
dumb build i agree on fact if trap is placed and triggered while thief is in X range it should kick thief out of stealth…

yes im not exactly a stealth depended thief, but if thiefs would actually play in a way to use the traps! (yes traps it self are beyond useless) i would say okay let it be, but none of thiefs use traps for their use actually they use it only for the stealth..

any1 claiming they use traps too kill is talking bullkitten cus 9 out of the 10 thiefs who use trapper build are using D/P and purely sit back on
A) condition lame dmg
B) backstab.

none of this condition dmg is applied by using traps (yes a lil but its not the killer)
as for backstab all they use trap for is to constantly reset fight in their favor just like heart seaker/black powder stealth crap..

this stuff is only possible to get by doing dungeons? im not into dungeons all i do is WvW or sPvP meaning i cant get an ascended back item?

congratz to Anet not locking WvW to f2p accounts, these people are just salty enemies..

f2p should be locked to EoTM problem solved..

lordkrall.7241:

There is no such thing as nightcapping. Ones night is someone else’s day.

how is there no such a thing?

EU is mainly +1 gmt thus if u take +1 gmt as prime time from let say 19:00 till 00:00 and after that u change the ticks in a way that capping stuff doesnt make the difference so much anymore it would be fine no?

if NA players want to play on EU i couldnt give a rats kitten about it, come ur welcome but if they only come to karma train at night which is again their choice (seems most boring choice ever) then they better go play NA no?

i mean WvW for me is just for the PvP just like most of FSP players we dont really care about PPT so much we prefer the fights but it doesnt reward us in any possible way..

on the other hand i dont really care about night capping much getting rammed down in ranks or going up i frankly dont care, only time i care is when our enemies have absolutely no chance of fighting us cus their servers are far smaller then FSP in this case..

so it will turn out in complete run over like we had 3? weeks ago or so which is beyond boring haaaai lets go to their keep with 10 players and take it away from them cus no1 even shows up anymore jup that was best WvW i had in my life…

if Kills would count more the servers would also balance it self out more…

if server X has tons of night cappers but barely any on in prime time then this server get downgrade together with other servers which ends up low pop servers get to fight each other with equal numbers, while their night crew is not making the difference anymore..

for example no offense to sea far rest players but these guys wouldnt be a T1 server if it came down to Point per kill, they used to have this night coverage to do their job at what they fail during prime time.

but like i said i dont really give a rats kitten about people capping during the night aslong i get to fight reasonable servers and not complete walk overs i have my joy.
but i would support if arenanet decide to change the system and would make capping outside prime time less effective.

vpy.6183:

I am also trying dual wielding pistols…they are more fun imo….how pistol/pistol fare with respect to solo leveling ?

p/p stinks for lvling

take sword/pistol
and
dagger/pistol

tbh i take dagger pistol over anything in pve, all u have to do is
3 it ports u to target > 1 1 1 1 repeat easy as kitten relaxing as hell (for me atleast since i enjoy grinding mindless once in a while)

sword/pistol i use it for harder enemies or when i wanna AoE and i can pull mobs together since skill 3 gives u evade frames and u can just spam it nothing will hit u and u will hit mobs multiple times

i have played P/P for 2 days now, its not that bad people call me OP etc.

the problem is, all u can do is either stealth > 1 > 3 > 3 > 3 or just 3 3 3 steal > 3 and hope he died
on the other hand with P/P i completely kitten pretty much everything in 1v1 i guess cus people dont understand that i basically have 3 times a burst which is 3 3 3 and after that whole burst has dropped to below zero..

none the less since S/D is so crappy nowadays and i still love my thief i just had to give P/P a go well and now im loving it..

when mesmers call you a overpowered kitten and that i can enjoy my OP P/P build for next few weeks till Anet nerfs it i guess its not bad ? :P

tho im not running full berzerker anyway but my dmg is enough to rip apart most classes in two times unload guardians/warriors take a bit more to kill but go down quite easy..

now i have to admit that im not used to P/P i guess using 4 on critical moments will help alot also so its not a 3 3 3 build but w/e :p

1 is meh feels really slow but okay its an auto attack
2 = bad skill on P/P
3 is eating initiative
4 i dunno if it interupts people who try to res teamm8 etc but i guess once i got used to build its pretty good
5 ye well 5 + 3 vs ranger = lol ranger assuming he is using long shot but i dont really use it cus i pretty much waste all ini on 3

anyway just go with the flow since Devs wont do a jackkitten tbh..

since beta im recieving these insane amount of damage, is Anet just slighty telling me to buy the upgrade or just get rekt by 1 or 2 hits?

no offense i have beaten plenty of beta toons but some of them are beyond me..
mesmer with time icon with some ball that lift me into the air?
or yesterday i get all of sudden flipped all over my screen for no reason i cant do anything? mean while i do die like a idiot?

warrior gun blast / flame blast (w/e skill name is) 13/11k dmg? doesnt even require a target appartenly

this new class that is just skipping between 5 targets i guess barely recieving any dmg/?

tbh i dont like to complain, but i feel like they all recieve massive advantage on people who didnt bought hot.
so my point is once hot goes live its better for me to stay out of WvW/sPvP? cus appartenly normal gw2 chars cant compete once meta builds roll out of the door for the people who did bought HoT..

was thinking yesterday why our loot bags dont have better chance on T6 mats, the chance is horrible farming events on cursed shore nets me sometimes more lootbags in shorter time then WvW even tho im on T1 server atm..

not to mention the cursed shore bags (didnt test this) seem to give T6 mats ALOT more often..

Removing the god kitten limit on the TP / Auction house / whatever u call it, would help me also nowadays im so lazy i just crush every single armor/weapon i get cus after 7/8 insta sells u cant sell a kitten anymore for next 30s and then the limit kicks in so quick constantly its irritating as kitten.

or reward track system like sPvP has
tower cap is X point blabalaabal player kill is 1 point <- that is most important and double kills dont count as 2 kills just so people wont go exploit it tadam.

Blood Red Arachnid.2493:

Last time I made a list of suggestions for the Daredevil, Anet took 8 (well, 7.5, half of one) of them and put it in for the next BWE.

Maybe you guys aren’t doing it right. Less tears, more elbow grease is my recommendation.

why would we? 90% of thiefs hold D/D or D/P this 90% also enjoys this play style and is also crying for a buff in their playstyle…

while rest of thiefs play non meta builds and these are the onces who got really shafted hard but no1 cares about S/D thief or P/P thief(even tho P/P was always crap pvp/wvw wise)..

all im asking is make thief playable like any other class in any situation right now its not.

D/D / D/P thief are playable in gank situations still it requires a lil to no Errors or ur still dead..

for example im complete nub warrior but i smashed a thief in 1v1 in 2 or 3 hits, how sad is that? im in full berzerker gear on warrior and im aware warrior is no glass cannon but still i find it sad 2 / 3 shotting people..

the problems most people put on this forums are not the real problem thief deal with at all. they put problems to make their life easier on their play style.

for me its simple pre dumb damage up scale patch we was fine correct?
after damage up scale patch we got shafted hard, traits are minor thing in this.
its fact that every1 in gw2 world already had their way off deffending them self but not the burst to blow a thief away while thief had lil to no deffence but massive burst compare to others..
with the upscale we lost our massive burst compare to other classes but also we didnt gain anything in deffence so now we are zero nada nothing..

burst? other classes do it better
deffense? lol any other class is doing it better.
stealth? take a mesmer cus any non kitten can track down thief in hide or will kitten him when he pops his circle to hide in (shadow refuge? i forgot name)
black powder and err heart seaker? u can easily follow these people rest of the hides are so short u dont have to worry that they will be far away.

thief all in all got shafted hard, i still play thief in Spvp when im bored, but my main thing is WvW and i havent played thief ever since i tried hard to get used to new dmg patch i simply cant enjoy it getting kitten d so fast so hard.
sPvP its still enjoy able for me cus i play non damage dealing build and just relay on dodges/teamm8s nothing more

thief just lost all its advantages in my eyes.

now asking for dmg boost is stupid, asking for more HP is not an option also asking for passive more armor not the thing also i dunno how to fix but it sits in the base of the game.

thief is UP and reason why people might cry harder then rangers (who ever mentioned that) atleast rangers had their longbow and range…

lets go to WvW
what a thief has? to enjoy his time among a blob?
you gotta watch ur screen so carefully to not make a miss step in a red circle or your dead.
you cant tag a kitten unless u like to walk behind your blob killing the rally bots

meanwhile u see pretty much every other melee class steam roll tru red circles like its nothing etc.
now i know thief not suppose to be at front line etc blabaala but right now a thief is just good for
A) stay in tower and scout
B) go cap camps
C) i dont know..

for sPvP
well here i adjusted my thief to point i cant complain about thief but im not playin thief the way its suppose to be played a warrior/guardian would do it better.
but i would call my self the (bunker) dodge thief annoying as kitten absolutely zero dmg 100% relaying on my teamm8s to help me out in a fight, unless enemy is a complete kitten i can kill em.

since i quite enjoy being irritating kitten with 5 dodges on the click more with S/D spam etc but w/e 5 dodges 100% without using any skill on the 1 to 5 bar.

then again as far i knew thief was suppose to be a bursty dmg dealer get in and out quick. which is still correct but Anet has decide to give us thiefs a “you cant make any error or u die” play mode.

if u see elementalist he completely kitten s everything tanks like a kittening guardian if not better thought elementalist was wearing light armor (robes) shouldnt pretty much any1 tear them apart if they get hit by a burst toon? if for example ele/mesmer/necro has hp and no survivalbility of a thief it would make more sense to me, even tho i dont wish these classes to ever get in this corner as thief is in now..

sfr is bad server in general, you are all bandwagoners who cant handle to see your server lose.

why was/is sfr nr1 EU?
having/had massive night coverage
having some serious trouble with PPT every1 in that server seems to go for the ticks instead of PvP

take the other servers they do not care half as much about PPT, deso for example sets up good fights most of the time, while sfr only goes for fights when tirru? or whatever is commanding beside that no SFR is looking for fights or its just a instant walk over..

you see maybe you lost players, but only if WvW was being ranked by X kills and not by capping stuff i dont think SFR would ever be a T1 server.

by the way everything has a end, so does SFR your server is build up out of many bandwagoners these people are like rotten apples and they will most likely run away from your server when kitten goes bad for long and u will open server slots for others which are hopefully for you not rotten apples.

you guys need to start fighting one of these AC deffense only servers..
when they have so many AC’s up that u cant even go tru any choke point without losing half your zerg is bullkitten.. dont tell me learn to play, i can run tru with some classes but on class like thief i cant possibly go tru this i cant port tru all circles even if i do max range port and then 2 dodges i still drop dead.. thats what happends when some servers are making like 10/15 AC’s, now they can still do it but atleast they wont be able to spam these 10/15 Ac’s constantly on the door

if u cry about not being able to deffend your stuff without it then obviously ur server doesnt deserve it?
many times my server kitten s a tower/keep but we dont cap it we just want the players to come to PvP or to deffend it..
when whole zerg is hiding behind walls on their ACs not coming out and when u do catch them on open field u see them go up in smoke all waypointing? yes thats amazing im glad they did this nerf..

NA wvw is as dead as EU wvw among lowest tiers not hard to stay on top..
capping a keep on borderland with zero deffence happends on T1 servers in NA.

easy fix, if condition damage does X damage tick and you happend to be in stealth you get kicked out of stealth.

also condition damage needs to get toned down its beyond lame how one can ram up to 8 ticks of burning or any other crappy conditions on your kitten without any problem and then just run off and watch you die these people dont even wanna fight all they wanna do is apply conditions and run..

see i have no problem with anything but atleast make conditions in a way that its “support” damage so they have to add their own damage on top of it to hit for example same damage as a melee build in berzerker

if berzerker toon hits for 1k dmg on target X
then condition toon should hit for let say 500 X condition damage and 500 from his own swings.

right now its 3k from X condition and 0 damage from guy him self as hes busy teleporting away or hiding in health till u drop your face in the dirt.. kinda lame but w/e its not like Anet will change it anytime soon last balance patch with upscaling in dmg was just horrible.

ScribeTheMad.7614:

Blaine Tog.8304:

Key farming was dumb and never should’ve existed in the first place. Slaying it and increasing the Key drop rate to compensate was a very player-centric thing for ANet to have done. F2P has nothing to do with it.

That is a massive, MASSIVE assumption that they are increasing the drop rate by any relevant amount.

I’ve played over 3000 hours over the last 3 years, do you know how may key drops I’ve had outside personal story?
2 keys.
Two

that is a bit of bullkitten, i have 9xx hours on my account and i got TONS of keys drop.
less then a month ago i dropped two keys within 1 hour..

you see u can farm all your time in instance or afk ingame or crafting..
or you can actually go farm “trash” mobs somewhere..
even my wife with less then 200hour ingame has dropped over 4 keys..

but then again i dont do dungeons all i do is WvW (never had it there) or farm cursed shore events with mobs (not the champs) or just random spot with mobs in cursed shore to farm mindless.. they drop fine they droprate shouldnt be upped alot cus it will just kitten up the market unless u like cheap stuff and nothing that comes from chest is even rare anymore then id say ye go for it increase chance alot..

in PvP (sPvP) thief is amazing atleast i feel like a beast there.
sadly this build i use in sPvP is not gonna work in WvW (which i enjoy a hell alot more) so i feel lil bit of a useless toon in WvW on my Thief, i mean i dunno where to be.
back line? i cant hit a kitten
front line? im dead before i even manage to get 1 hit off with short bow.
in between 50 people? 1 rush from enemies and im the one that is dead and will get stomped.

roaming is fun yes untill i face a cele ele or a mesmer and get my kitten teared apart sadly my enemies on WvW love to roam all over the map with extreme amount of mesmers.

so ye i havent done a hell alot of WvW lately on Thief.

then again whos listing too us anyway pointless to cry on this forum just adept and move on or drop the toon on waiting list till we got looked into.
problem with anet is u cant balance a toon in PvE and PvP and WvW all these gametypes are different and require different balance..

said that from start lock wvw but noooooooo

jump just before u shoot problem solved

ye roaming run into mesmer get rekt
run into elementalist that is stronger then heavy armor class get rekt
run into burn guardian get rekt

the damage patch made roaming bit dull for me tbh..

germans/spanish/FR are PPT kitten they dont fight they use 929823983 arrow carts to do the job.. just lean back and wait for next friday when u face these tools i wish they had removed arrow carts from WvW

Snake.8235:

They released the WvW beta for a reason

like they will change the whole map lol..

they failed the map seems more suitable for pve not for WvW, servers that enjoy doing PPT might enjoy this but there are tons of players who dont enjoy this at all including me, i dont care for towers/camps/keeps, yes i deffend them but if lost i couldnt give a rats kitten if it was T1 or T3 i just wanna kill people..

now the map is huge and people move in a blob if u kill enemy on otherside of map u wont see them again for a while..
map just need to be like old maps “flat” no weird structures and easy to get from A to B

already said that ages ago..

the map is crap, its not made for PvP its made for karma training yet another EoTM map..

why it had to go f2p? i know the trick is to slam people into HoT and giving new people a piece of the cake by handing over gw2 for free but jesus?
the servers seem healthy (pve wise) it didnt need this basically the game was F2P already…

if one cant afford to pay 20 to 40 bucks on the game, then no offense but in my opinion you shouldnt be playing the game then.. why? cus again no offense but once your past 16 u should have atleast your own money to buy whatever you want if u dont then obviously u have other stuff to do..

alot of brainless tards will invade gw2 now, gw2 had best community (nicest player i have met among mmo’s) i ever seen i could ask most kittened question and still got a proper answer without any1 screaming any bad words in chat. well say good bye to that.

also just wanted to add
Lock WvW completely just let them play EoTM theres always salty people who will lvl a alt on enemy server just to ram players into eternal battle ground to keep people stuck in queue.. EoTM was designed to test stuff no? well enjoy free 2 play accounts with your EoTM test PvP..

lvl 60 in this game is nothing even lvl 80 is kitten easy, i bought gw2 3 weeks ago for my wife she didnt know kitten about game and she was lvl 80 in 2 weeks with pretty casual play style and more focused on completeling god kitten lowbie maps then actually pushing to high lvl zones. so imagine a guy who wants alts just to annoy his enemy on borderlands he will lvl up to 60 in no time..

bad move tbh u should rethink this stuff FAST.

Kidel.2057:

It’s either dps or survivability. You can’t have both at max, you’re forced to do hybrid builds to have both and give up a bit of them. The concept is perfect.

Or do you actually think that bunker Guardians do dps?

Daredevil is an evasion tank if you spec into dodges. You can also spec into damage however. Not going to survive much more then now, but you still have stealth and 1 more dodge.

my bunkerguard is getting hell alot more loot bags in same time frame then my thief
also my bunkerguard allows me to make multiple errors

if i would get full deffense armor for my thief im pretty sure it wont let me make much more errors then what i do now also i nerf my DPS to the bone (fine) and i still get ripped apart within seconds.
fun thing is in arena pvp which i btw do not enjoy (spvp w/e u call it) im running a thief fully on deffense and its idd perfectly fine.
you know why? cus im just decapping stuff keeping people busy till my teammates come to add more DPS while when im alone im just being an annoying port in/out dodge tank.

this tactic doesnt really work for players who enjoy WvW more like my self i cant wait somewhere on the map till some random server friend might run by.

sPvP > 20k hp
WvW > 15/17k hp depends which weap i use
now the difference is small but when i feel like a glass cannon in WvW and pretty useless ever since patch that im playing my Guardian/Elementalist more often in WvW and for record im not running D/D S/D ele just good old staff to blast some AoE around cus i like that

Killyox.3950:

Ever got the idea that the class is not for you? I mean it has been marketed as a squishie requiring precise dodging and stealthing to stay alive since forever. You picked it despite that.

You shouldn’t have high hopes for Thief having passive defense like guardian or some of the other classes.

the difference is every1 plays his own game here one plays Spvp one plays WvW and another PvE and based on that they gonna judge how thief is.
ofcourse PvE thief will say omg amazing lolol
sPvP thief for me is fine also while another says its not

yes sPvP im fine, PvE lol’d, WvW not fine since patch.

hurr the OP for president yes our main problem sits in the base of the thief not in the traits etc. fully agree!

for me this dumb damage boost was just the end of thief, sure we deal more damage also but when 1 can take 2 hits and another can take 5 then its quite easy to guess whos gonna win.

one can face tank your damage while you are forced to play with perfect timed dodges
thus making 2v1 kittening hard when 2 people are swinging around like idiots.
anyway doubt stuff will change with new trait tbh.

another useless trait.

the problem lays in the base off a thief not in the traits

Fat Disgrace.4275:

reddie.5861:

Sword pistol doesnt work because what u got? 3 useless skill 4 useless skill 5 useless skill

all these skills dont go with sword unless u wanna pistol whip in PvP be my guest on gettin wrecked on first person that dodges

What? #3 it erupt massive dmg and evade, Down side is it roots you and a long wind up

1. on demand interupt
2. smoke feild wich can be used in defence and offence.

Very useless indeed. And just because it is not meta it dosnt mean it dosnt work because it does still kill people, good or bad people.

okay go interupt someone just when u want most skills in gw2 are insta cast have fun interupting on the right moment.
as for 5 yes its good but since 3/4 are pretty useless the whole weapon set becomes useless to me.

i use S/P when i cap camps i put malice and crit HP vamp from crit strikes and i just spam 3 yes works awesome beside that i feel hopeless when some enemy happend to come around the corner when im using these weapons.

S/D is far superior to S/P even tho S/D is not that good at the moment also so imagine.

Sword pistol doesnt work because what u got? 3 useless skill 4 useless skill 5 useless skill

all these skills dont go with sword unless u wanna pistol whip in PvP be my guest on gettin wrecked on first person that dodges

ye nerf another non meta thief thing, no i dont play it but u guys seriously want all thiefs to play Dagger pistol dont u?

hide backstab hide backstab hide backstab all we can do..
i barely play my thief now in WvW cus Sword dagger is a bit crap now nerfing 1 thing after another is lil lame.

i cant beat a guardian nerf their deffense and offense
i cant beat elementalist nerf everything around them
i cant beat a somewhat decent played warrior nerf their dps
i cant beat a necro nerf their F1 skill
etc etc if i cant beat X class doesnt mean they need a nerf and above is not a list of what i cant i just made something up.

to reality i can beat almost every class on my S/D thief but it takes ALOT unlike many other classes who can afford a error while i cant on thief no matter what build i run a error means ur most likely getting your kitten teared apart unless ur enemy is a dummy.

just let people play the only thing that is completely wrong in WvW is the damage boost we had recently on all classes this simply doesnt work out for WvW in my opinion.

its not HIDE and even if its hide blame anet for upping the damage while these classes simply cant face tank all this damage like other classes.

get mats get friends let them craft stuff that is one time a day and youll be done in no time

Death Scythe.9738:

Yeah… so much negativity, it’s like people are waiting any reason to hate, and complaint about any change. I play S/D so I don’t really like to depend of stealth too much. That is why I am kind of optimistic about this.

im S/d also but first we recieve a massive nerf on acro then prolly they give it back through another trait…
bit of a bullkitten if u ask me but whatever im not excited nor “sad” about new stuff

giving the fact that your most likely playing Spvp i dont see why ur not using acro right now thief in arena is still quite amazing same for pve only place i see a thief fail horrible is in WvW..(yes i know D/P thief is amazing at ganking etc blabalabla and then when they roll with the blob they are absolutely zero just a meatshield with no use to actually be there.)

thats just my opinion though..

none the less ofcourse i love to see this stuff work out as im no fan of perma hiding thief only ramming 1 for backstab and kitten out again.

yay being on a winning server constantly kitten your enemy “the joy”!

i lol’d but then again NA seems pretty dead in general when u watch some live streams from T1 servers i guess EU T3/4 servers are even more active then that

kitten staff, you guys are either all into PvE or i dunno what the kitten u want to do with staff in WvW when ur with ur blobs..

leap in? and die in a flash?
go melee with ur staff well i dunno how amazing your performing with your dagger or sword at the moment but it wont be any different moment u hit front line u kiss the floor.

but i just go with what anet will hand us, tho a longbow or a rifle would be better in my opinion given the fact that we are the tru paper warriors with nothing beyond 900 range

you guys all wannabe on T1 server and bandwagon, yes if your from NA i can understand cus NA looks pretty kitten dead on streams people can cap keeps without any1 deffending on border lands.

but EU? dont bother guys its a lag festival, most T1 servers dont even wanna Fight its all PPT that matters fights? kitten fights need them points which is bit crap then again thats what WvW is but sadly its not what i like :p

T3 and below is pretty decent if your on EU servers

KlausKNT.9302:

reddie.5861:

what you expect?
Blacktide hacking their kitten off that people sit by? theres always one getting mad and will do the same back too kitten off each other.

somewhere deep inside i hope your from BT and get your kitten wiped constantly karma is a kitten i dont support this UW hacker but i left FoW cus of this BT kitten constantly hacking completely killing the WvW on bottom 3 servers.

Muth of kitten here

Ofc its like i say before
- there are only players in game- why they shall care??
Lets think what expected other servers from BT players before:
- dont atack this tower/keep/sm becose there is a hacker that kills all around?? -others servers dont atack points when hacker is inside so you from BT support hacker if you continue to take point when hacker kills all defenders ???

Oh, please it was so funny to see this on other side

There are only players in game that whone some funn- why they shall care??
Players hacking- not servers

No this is only 1 hacker that trolls and is small chance to random encounter him ( i personally only one time face him- stealth disabler – 1 time i see enemy hacker use this stuff or hack to counter invisible enemy )
And history shows that this hackers ( 2 of them on uw now) will be on t9 servers so the simplest way to counter them is move tier up
Who whone go tier up ??

So gl, hf lemings!!
See YOU on the field !!
The most important is to be nice and keep smiling
Smile

im not sure what you said but i dont support any hacker..
i just hope this UW hacker if he exist will kitten BT constantly cus from what i have seen is BT came “alive” when the hacker was active in WvW and started to think they where actually cappin stuff legit. (not all but majority thought so)

i just love to see BT faces when you get all your stuff taken away from you even if your deffending u cant deffend cus guess what thats what cheaters do they take anything they want and u can just watch helpless. well BT enjoyed it for good month? if not longer thus why i hope you have a horrible time in WvW IF your from BT and beyond braindead to not understand that your server has pretty much ruined the bottom 3 servers.

as for your last part of post you wont see me, like i said i have TRANSFERED away from FoW i love WvW but not being able to do any WvW cus of hacktide i didnt had much of a choice to transfer off huh?
More and more people are leaving FoW (dont know about UW) cus of this bullcrap.

now keep (smiling)
because as you saw without a hacker BT gets slapped down the list instantly and your back in your bottom 3 server list which BT has killed by now(as in players dont wanna fight against your bullcrap) so every other week you have absolutely nothing to do in WvW, so enjoy.

what you expect?
Blacktide hacking their kitten off that people sit by? theres always one getting mad and will do the same back too kitten off each other.

somewhere deep inside i hope your from BT and get your kitten wiped constantly karma is a kitten i dont support this UW hacker but i left FoW cus of this BT kitten constantly hacking completely killing the WvW on bottom 3 servers.

reinforever.8902:

Oslaf Beinir.5842:

I gotta give this a try with s/p

I hope lag wars is gonna be less laggy while I get me some gold for the set of armor

There’s another guy in one of my old guilds who uses it with s/p and he just spams pistol whip. Apparently it outdps’ d/p

nope 1 dodge and ur dead

its, 1 11 1111 111 11 11 11 1 vs 1 111 1 11 11 1 1 1 1 1 1111

its amazing!

i only play to stomp people, i dont care if i win or lose in WvW aslong theres people to kill.

honestly i dunno why people give a kitten if they win or lose all people want is PvP, if they care about cappin stuff EoTM there amazing place no PvP and alot of kitten to cap.

your not getting double teamed, your getting focused because your server happend to be full of arrogant bandwagoners thinking they are the best.
well guess what your getting smashed at the moment.

theres no “deal” between deso and FSP.
but both servers do want you to get off your high horse (not you but the majority of SFR big mouth kids) some people on this server think they are far superior well could have guessed it that one day u get match up against something that has same mind set as desolation.

it might feel as getting double teamed but deso is killing us also(im FSP) and we are killing them also.
you just have priority to get knocked off your high horse by both servers doesnt mean they are holding hands.
choices are made at the start if FSP wanted deso down then u would have deso going after SFR and SFR going after FPS or deso, if u go for deso then deso would be in same situation and felt like getting double teamed also while FSP and SFR didnt even talk to each other

anyway i frankly dont care tbh kitten T3 T8 aslong WvW stops lagging like kitten during prime time i couldnt give a rats kitten in which tier i play i dont play for the PPT like many others do here. i just wanna deffend PvP and cap if i lose something and lost a Tick for that some1 would have to remind me cus i never think about the stupid ticks

and thats why i dont do dungeons with other people beside my wife and brother.
i cant be kitten d to be told how to play or what sigils to use.

yes we go slowly tru dungeon yes we wipe where no1 else would wipe but we have fun and laughters i couldnt give a rats kitten what class one of them plays or how much AP they have.
other people are more then welcome but since i know majority of dungeon players will cry like babies when they see my wife noobing around, while i enjoy watching her dieing over and over again not having a clue how it happend xD.

this game is “old” and the “elders” have taken over new people or people who do not put their focus on dungeons are not welcome in most groups.
gotta deal with it or make your own party and just accept the lesser players also as these guys are more likely alot more relaxed and do not care about X and Y class or a “speedrun”

id drop critical strikes for acro if they had restored feline grace like it used to be
i use sword MH and even with the changes above i would choose old feline grace over critical strikes.. so its not that amazing for other weapons..

it just happends to be that thief is no so squeezed into D/P or D/D build not saying the rest are kittenty builds now but with Dagger MH u have the major advantage over any other MH weap

i have seen acrobatics thread but i just try to adopt to what Anet changes i mean, yes the only thing i miss from acro is feline grace (which is for me nerfed to the bone), for the rest the trait line is perfect for me but the rest what acro gives is just not enough at the moment to drop what i use at the moment.. saw what u suggested but it just doesnt cut it for me, i can evade stuff succesfull and still not get the bonus cus of how the game works old feline grace was much more rewarding and played a huge roll in thiefs deffence, then again like i said im just trying to adopt. Just nowadays i have harder time to get the kitten out when i make a error since i cant relay on my dodges anymore pretty hard to time perfect dodges when ur fighting some 1 1 1 1 1 class

tho i have to admit in sPvP thief is okay with the changes Anet did, but i prefer WvW where this feline grace nerf had such a massive impact in my opinion. anyway going off topic so ill shush :p

PaxTheGreatOne.9472:

People actually are mad condition damage finally works?

It seems a resonabe shift from 1 to 2 years ago when everybody was mad conditon dmg was a waste of time, utterly useless unless you’d be playing 1 vs 1(,2,3?) engagments.

Healing scaling is broken atm, with the 15-30% reduction of healing as an attribute I lose at least 3 pt/regen/tick, (we lost 300 healing and we were not compensted.

conditions pre patch was perfectly fine, dont tell me it was not because i played a condi build for fun back then and i was perfectly fine, infact i switched build because it was to easy..

add condi
add condi
add condi > run > watch him die.

some other guy said all classes have remove all of conditions correct, but 99% of condi removealls have longer reuse then the SPAMABLE conditions