Guild Wars 2

choking gas on a blob ull be a fully buffed up teef!

think it was quite clear even on this forum that vabbi was made out of bandwagoners these people come for 1/2 weeks and fly off again basically they are useless..

u have to find a server that is standing alone like deso sfr fsp piken gandara these servers have a “solid” wvw community and dont have to relay that much on bandwagoners..

sadly with the linking nowadays the whole ranking is out of control.

bOTEB.1573:

Hesacon.8735:

Mel.3064:

I have the feeling a large percentage of people in WvW are just there to farm the rewards

No they’re not. Even with the advent of rewards tracks and skirmish tracks, if your goal is rewards, you’re better off in many other areas. For example:

• sPvP
• silverwastes
• dry top
• pick a LW3 map
• Orr
• Fractals
• dungeons
• HoT metas
• Central Tyria boss trains

If you’re serious about rewards, wvw is not the place to go. The rewards are good because the game mode is fun. The rewards aren’t good because it’s some sort of crazy profitable place to farm.

From these that you have mentioned, except the sPVP (which can give 2 legendary pieces MAX per season), which one can give you the opportunity to upgrade 6 pieces of asc armor into legendary?

There are 3 ways.

1. Raids. Let’s see. I know a bunch of ppl that don’t like the raids because of its toxicity, failures with pugs and the fact that it is almost impossible to get into raids now if you are new players (you have to link 100000 LI + full armor set + all minis + your kidney). Your best bet will be to either join a raiding guild in which they will out u (as a noob) in the last group (which doesn’t always fill and spend 5-6 hours just to clear one wing, if they clear it at all). This and the fact that you have to run this raid A LOT to get full set is just ridiculous to prefer to do raids just for the legendary armor.

2. sPVP. Yes, sPVP is the best and fastest way to obtain a legendary armor. However, it limits the players to upgrade a maximum of 2 pieces each season which means they need at least half a year to get the full set. Nothing wrong with this – its legendary armor set and it should take some time. But what is doing the smart player? Which brings us to 3.

3. WvW. Now, the smart player isn’t here just for the reward tracks, but the other rewards also. He is here for an end game gear which will give him the opportunity to change his armor stats at will, for free and won’t bother spending/farming gold just to test that new build (aka he is here for pips). He has another class which may use that armor? Perfect – he can just change the stats. How many pips have you farmed in fractals to upgrade to legendary armor? Anyway, the smart player (which is also a new player) has farmed 2 pieces of legendary armor from sPVP and since he is forced to wait for the new season he has to farm either raids or WvW. 365 tickets per week = 1 piece of armor per 4 weeks (if we include the tickets needed to buy the ascended gear first). Which gives the opportunity to max legendary armor gear in less than 4 months, by playing 2-3 hours a day WvW, which is kinda easier, more relaxing and IMO more fun than raids, don’t you think?

Hope this clears it for you… the fact why people are just staying there for pips (not all but some).

so remove the legendary kitten armor from WvW or put it back with X rank and X badges.

badges are kitten easy to get and X rank is easy to get if u do ur job in WvW.
problem solved i dont really give a rats ass about the armor but from time to time im trying to deffend something so hard (obviously with some others) and no1 can come to help then u die tap to spawn and u see like 20 AFK or auto running rounds or w/e on spawn..

jup that helps me, whole pip system is crap, i dont want these rewards if it attracts idiots to afk it up in WvW

in order to pull this number u need to do have the stacks up and run complete glass cannon build + might stacks.

i played deadeye had bit of fun with signet for power(forgot name im sorry) yes it hits hard but then i went on my orginal power thief put signet on also and i wreck just as hard as i did on deadeye + fact that i felt much better cus of survivability.

im sure deadeye has things it will shine at but any thief duo will wreck some mindless roamers deadeye wont be any better at it then any other thief in blob fight deadeye shots dont pierce i believe so sniping is mad hard when everything running around like fools and for roaming i personally think once u make mistake on deadeye ur gonna get ur face smashed cus of lack of mobility on the class

u cant steal + heartseaker + land backstab (atleast if i go by topic.)

if u mean blackpowder > hs > steal > backstab its just bit of timing u press backstab a bit before steal if the skill is going off it will land if u press to late it will just be a regular hit.

i dont really understand why so many WvW players are so salty over kittenty items.

scream all u want at me call me a idiot but any exotic geared player is equally good and is dishing out same amount of dmg as fully legendary/asc geared fool out there.
90% of people hide their BP so no1 cares the other 90% have models on low limit so they dont even see ur crap.

only good thing about legendary is, is the stat switching for the rest its all trash but i dont mind dumping my ascended stuff in mystic forge to switch stats if meta change.

Imperadordf.2687:

Leo Schrodingers Cat.2497:

Imperadordf.2687:

Deadeye is a WvW class. Useless in 1v1, usable in sPvP, cancer in PvE.

Is that in a good way? Or a bad way?

In WvW, Deadeye destroys every living thing on it’s sight. It is good that way. But in 1v1, most classes would kick the kitten out of DE. In sPvP, you can do +1 pretty good. Squishy characters can’t stand a chance against a Deadeye they can’t kill in 5 seconds. In PvE, since the specialization has no AoE, DE can’t clear groups of mobs properly or in a limited time. I recommend using the spec with Pistol/Pistol or waiting for it to be buffed.

thats kitten, id beat any given Deadeye spec on daredevil warrior prolly also.
who ever can play Ele will do the job aswell. any condi kitten will do it.

the rifle is way to slow, u can go P/P but im just laughing at any P/P thief (yes its strong) i dont even attack them i just interupt them they blow them self up on p.impact.

deadeye is good at things but its far from destroying anything on sight daredevil outshines deadeye in WvW.

none the less i had bit of fun playing deadeye in the test but it doesnt give me the thief feeling.

yesterday i uninstalled that kitten from my pc..

first it was
msn/icq
then ts2 took over
then skype kicked in for contacting people
then ts3/ventrillo took over ts2
then discord popped up

i dont even see how discord is better then having one on skype tbh..
discord is like these old school chat box sites where u just flame the hell out of everybody and reconnect with different name and do it again untill u got perma ban..

maybe im just to old for this kitten but i dont like discord at all..

who cares? i have yet to see some1 with banner make a difference…

Ario.8964:

I made a build that I can play that counters it. That’s why it’s not a problem for me.

me 2 the meta d/p build with marauder gear and 2 rings from soldier i think i smashed the s/d build he didnt even manage to get my hp half way down.

why when something else is good beside d/p it has to go?

wanna know more amazing build then this crap?
double short bow with energy on weapon swap sigil and stamina sigil and then just put choking gas everywhere and dodge around like a complete kitten if ur winning that blob fight u can pretty much dodge endless in ur choking gas fields or just dodge and u get tons of bags and its so kitten easy..

i sometimes do this when enemy server is terrible and a 1 push i just hop around and nothing every touch me

dunno how u have problems with guardians on any thief tbh with you..

core guardian cant do kitten vs thief and is a deadman walking
Dragonhunters are so obvious when they stand still on their traps only a kitten would jump in. without the traps DH isnt going to do anything either.

engi’s ye pain in the ass to fight but i enjoy these fights the most.

tbh nowadays i switch out the impact anyway for clean condi on evade then go around boing boing on staff

if u didnt play thief for to long ull notice this skill isnt going to change the fight much

what is point of this?

whole deadeye trait adds absolutely nothing to dual pistol..
u basically playing a handicapted pistol thief but since unload is strong it doesnt really show.

necro needs nerf also giving me 100 bleed stacks in matter of seconds?
dunno about you but i can interupt a ranger non stop but i dont even tickle his balls by just using headshots.

the skill isnt that strong the skill looks strong when one interupts u and then (just making up something) steals > cleave or hide > steals > backstab > impact goes off.

but every skill looks strong when u trigger it with other skills out there in a flash of a second.

nothing skilled here, getting cuts from few fights everything looks kitten..

well fought a non braindead guy today and didnt manage to land a single 4 skill (out of stealth) cus of major lazer beam coming out. this guy knew he had to dodge and he did it all the time and just smashed my face after that.

tried deadeye a bit again tonight in blob fight, its not ALL that bad for WvW but the thing is, u cant stick with ur commander ull always be somewhere on side lines if enemy blob turns to you ur pretty much kittened u either get to run off away from ur teamm8s or just hide and hope they give up on u.

but today i went and tried i banged down ALOT of people quite fast its fun but when they realised in 4th fight i was (didnt even know) banging down there commander all the time they went straight for me i couldnt do anything no condi cleanse no real ways to gtfo fast (cant get used to that kneel kitten i keep trying to run forget to press 5 again).

beside that necro i can bang down to 20% hp quite easy without any real tricks.
ele goes down in a flash
thief goes down in a flash
warrior saves him self by that 0 dmg crap
guard will go down also easily
ranger same as warrior
engi wasnt much of a hassle also when their elexirs on cd

so is it bad, no is it usefull? well in my eyes not cus w/e i did i could do same on daredevil apart from fact i had to get in and out but i think a DD would have downed the people alot faster. not cus dmg is so much better but simply cus skills are much faster the rifle is just a slow thing would use it more as off hand weapon then as primary but then i have to spec this kitten elite that has no use for better weapons..

XenesisII.1540:

Nothing wrong with thieves you guys need to l2p.
And use stealth traps for heaven’s sake.

good luck trying to do that dmg when u dont have the time to wait for malice stacks when u are mad slow when no1 is standing unbuffed and when no1 will give u 25 might stacks and when u dont want to be 1 shotted.

fought so many new crap thiefs already they stand no chance versus Daredevil so beside some tower hugging and shooting some newbies u wont do much as this class.

dagger/pistol/shortbow

rest sucks even tho a sword/dagger is mad fun to play d/p out class it.

vabbi is bandwagon server nr1.
people left cus of queue’s on other servers or t1 fights are boring and went on vabbi this server is easy to crack cus the t1 are boring fights people will leave soon the left overs cant hold their kitten together and leave aswell.

tbh nowadays i dont think u can pick a wrong server, they are all equal being on bottom server doesnt mean the fights are bad.
some servers just dont give a rats ass about ppt others are just casual and lose everything in night/morning.

if u cover a server with morning/night ull sky rocket to t1 server any given server.
does that mean your good?

no offense to other servers but id have to say deso/sfr/piken are by far the most fun servers to face. all the other servers seem to go behind ur back capping kitten.

like gandara used to aviod all fights as plague while deso and us where having a blast fighting each other gandara took the back way to cap all kitten on map instead of joining the fight.
u enjoy that? then join a server like that.

if u enjoy a change ones in a while join a link server.

why would u need population increase? just because beta is only for pvp/wvw doesnt mean most servers (none without linking) have queue on every single map out there on normal days.

class is kittened doesnt even have to hit your enemies u got constant evade frames up (dont know how dotn care either) u heal like a boss u pump out conditions like a boss.

chased one half way through WvW map untill his buddies came to help him but its kitten how much evades(frames) they have on w/e skill he was using.

why? i think rifle is perfect now, i didnt bought xpac cus i dont like rifle and always said rifle doesnt suit thief.

well here we go rifle doesnt suit thief as i said
and its not overcoming daredevil so its balanced u wanna bang from a range like a longbow ranger go do it but dont start whining for mobility or anything that a core thief/daredevil has and this rifle wannabe doesnt even get close to it.

NinjaEd.3946:

The minute I found out they were going the rifle route I already had no interest in what the result of it would be.

this.
rifle = slow weapon
thief = fast char

slow + fast doesnt go together but i guess devs did listen to all naggers here wanting a kittenty rifle instead of giving us something decent to over come D/P

cus im pretty sure D/P > deadeye in most situations

its kitten..
gz for all tools that asked for rifle on fast class making it beyond terrible slow.

gliding is just crap and has no place in WvW, yesterday i saw a whole zone Blob glide from spawn into the tower..
meanwhile i saw half the gliders fall down out of air so me as roam heavy thief was like nice ill take all these tits that fall out of sky but nope none of em actually fell it was just my screen or server or w/e not loading any glider properly and just letting all these players rubber band all over the place..

top of that while i thought people where falling i was underneath em obviously so i pull out my shortbow in hope if i hit em their glide instantly gets removed but nope… i can hit all i want no1 gives a rats ass cus they just keep gliding its so pointless people jump off cliffs to aviod fights people glide from point X to Y to again avoid fights and instantly end up in better deffence position while the attackers they cant do a kitten about it..

make a balista? will this balista bang out a whole blob out of sky? or just 3/4/5 people cus thats not gonna make a difference when skill has X amount of seconds reuse or should we blow all supplies on making 20 balista and 1 ram/cata instead?

gliding doesnt make sense and its quite useless in WvW only people that like it are the ones that prefer to glide over enemies head to instantly land behind walls so they can sit on their arrow carts blasting on enemies heads and when the enemy did break the door open or wall they glide out again like a kitten..

yea the joy..

knew from start gliding is kittened.. just fight near a cliff and huehue glide away when u cant win while enemy team/player cant do anything about it..

might aswell make ports available in mid fight its same stuff..

as for karnasis, i dont care if one stealths and runs off cus i know he cant get far..
if some1 glides off a cliff that i cant possibly follow cus i fall to dead if i do so i find it pure lame.

gliding or any of this pve content shouldnt be introduced to wvw, same for mounts we dont need this kitten in WvW if they plan to add em cus they have no role in WvW the maps beside kittenty Red BL are small and mostly flat and easy to go around in there no need for gliding as for RED BL i would say ye gliding would make sense if u could glide anywhere including into enemy lands so u can actually follow ur enemies and not just see em fly off like fools.

hope we dont get mounts

roaming nowadays is just huehue i hide huehue i 1 bang you out of hide (or leave you with super low hp) heuhue i won.

roaming has hit new lvl in gw2 for few years now its more like ganking in some kittenty faction game where a high lvl is going to some low lvl zone acting like a complete boss knowning these lower lvls cant even tickle his balls yet he feels so good killing em.

u see when i roam i want good fights i dont care if i die, i can roam also with 1 shot heuhue build but i dont have fun like that evey1 can press few buttons out of hide and fight is done. i prefer to fight and have to use everything and try hard to not die.

if u roam for 1 shotting people id suggest making a guardian get a loot stick cus its far more fun and yields 1000 times more loot

i have got i7 2700k which is a old one so w/e is better then mine will perform perfectly fine cus i never have any problems beside server giving me massive delays on skill use

Urejt.5648:

I gave devil vs deadeye duel some thought and i cameusion that deadeye gonna easyly win this duel.

Deadeye has better elite than venom, better blind powder and ofc deadeye has much better dps thx to malice.

first u have to land a hit second off all thief vs thief always been who jumps who first has much higher win % seeing that deadeye sounds and looks like pretty slow clase with not so much mobility i dont see how d/p or even core thief will lose against this build.

ye so a thief needs to blow up all his resources in order to get a stun off, jup sound like a plan..

atleast i can rip off stab i doubt i can rip off bars

i didnt really read all post but look, for example Red EBG keep > orge watch deffending.

so now red players can simply glide from keep to orge to deffend? so theres noway for attackers to stop em if they didnt break tower open yet? while deffenders can get to tower without any harm?
i find it lame cus often (our server) we slap doors just to lure them out to have a fight with no intention to take anything..

i dont really want gliding its crap it has no use in WvW, even if the above wont be possible i simply dont see any use of it in WvW

ill play d/p / shortbow just because rifle will suck hard after a while when they have got enough money out of people to balance out the “new” elites to normal standards.

rifle thief is slow thief every thief that doesnt have mobility is meat for most of classes out there.

Turk.5460:

HatSimulator.9362:

…new and better maps etc.

DBL was a new and better map. People said they wanted a new map, Anet delivered. It is better in every way. Plenty more spots for strategic positioning, sieging structures from various angles, deadly drops that make knockbacks actually lethal if you position yourself favorably…the list can go on and on.

But the incredibly loud forum dwellers found it unfamiliar, even after asking for something new. It seems like they didn’t want anything new after all, since they were unwilling (or unable) to learn the ins and outs. They didn’t like change, it took them out of their comfort zone where they already knew every nook and cranny of ABL. They didn’t want to explore DBL for strategic locations. They pathed certain areas of ABL just like a horde of brainless NPCs until someone crossed that path – and apparently they are OK with doing that forever, but somehow, at the same time, they are NOT OK with doing that forever?

I guarantee that if DBL was our first map, and then ABL was added later as a new map, the same people would explode in a fit of rage and demand that DBL was placed back as the norm.

DBL was horrible just like the new PvE maps, if i wanna go from my (enemy spawn) spawn point towards their garri i would like to do that in 1 straight line, i do not wanna be forced to run around cliffs or through cliffs cus thats the only possible way to get there.
the map is forcing you to take certain routes while Alphine maps do not force me to take any route.

DBL map might be huge if u look at it as a picture but in reality the map has so many “mountains” and cliffs that the map has not much space at all.
its also not obvious that red map is most of the time without a queue cus no1 wants to blow their time on that map?

no gliding pls no freaking pve stuff into WvW!

Skynet.7201:

Swagger.1459:

Skynet.7201:

I personally don’t want to see this game mode thrown into any type of faction-based WvW, and before you post a reply that I haven’t read your entire post, I have read it. I have also read (in their entirety) many other threads from the past suggesting faction-based WvW. No matter how the ideas are packaged, they all still boil down to a model similar (ish) to EotM. Not a fan.

I do agree that we need a path to legendary gear.

Seasons need to return to WvW on a regular basis.

Ok, but what are players here going to do when Camelot Unchained launches with 3 unique factions, far superior world map mechanics, an RvR underworld, unique and customizable classes (per side) that are built and balanced solely for pvp and rvr warfare, an engine that can handle 1,500 bot battles currently… and is the predecessor to Dark Age of Camelot that gw2 wvw was modeled after?

Think the players here are still going to be happy with a gw2 that juggles individual servers with linking, the same old limited and boring maps, professions built and balanced around pve first, an enginge that can’t handle 200 players fighting in the same area…?

Either gw2 needs to get rid of the old model, and all of the major flaws that go with it, to compete with what’s coming, or the precious wvw as we know it will be hit hard by a game that is 100% designed for pvp and rvr.

GW2 has survived Overwatch. It will survive thru CU. I don’t think people are going to 100% abandon GW2 after all the time they’ve invested in it. This game has a HUGE fan based going all the way back to GW1. But diverting from the original model to something entirely different will definitely alienate some of the WvW player base.

Will CU RvR bet better? We don’t know yet. I think it’s a little early for pessimistic predictions.

WvW could use a separate skill balancing system, for sure. Does WvW need a few more tweaks? Yes.

Blowing up the original mode that people bought the game to play and fell in love with, and implementing a faction-based mode isn’t the solution.

never invested a kitten into gw2 beside buying it.
i dont care for skins i dont care for anything beside WvW so nothing stops me from leaving.

only good thing gw2 has is that i can leave now and return in 6 months and my gear is still the best if not taking legendary into account which is why i like gw2 its so casual.
but i dislike the fact that whole gw2 team (anet) is only caring about their PvE community which is quite pathetic.
Then simply remove whole WvW scene and sPvP if they see these 2 things as simple add ons and dont wanna spend more then 2 hours time on it..
we always have to deal with horrible balance patches which turn out great for PvE but are beyond terribad for other modes.

i also dont really understand why they dont make balance patches on sPvP or WvW and then ram them into PvE because PvE is least important when it comes to damage i mean give all pve people a 1 shot kill build and no1 will complain cus npc’s cant complain give these builds to sPvP or WvW and u got tons of tears..

see what i did there!? balance only matters when 2 real people fight it out not when 1 guy fights vs a brainless NPC that can be killed even without a weapon.

hope condi will be nerfed to the ground lamest way to fight huehue i add condi then i run till u bleed out or ill re apply, dont tell me to cleanse cus i made a huehue condi thief just to huehue dodge in my choking gas and i huehue every single person to dead and in blob fights i huehue dodge only cus lotus training alone does enough mean while i added a huehue stamina sigil on my weapon so i can heuhue dodge 24/7 while fighting blobs its huehue easy and yields me more bags then a kitten lootstick guardian.

i hate dungeons i love it they remove them slowly from the game sadly gw2 has no open world PvP so its pointless to remove dungeons cus i cant PvP for XP spot anyway so its crap.

Swamurabi.7890:

How many still run vanilla builds? Yeah, thought so. You’ll line up to pay just like every other WvW player.

ill go vanilla 1 shot thief build, no problem for me.

no?
and no i dont owe a legendary, but no u should work for ur crap if u want it especially now with crafts being added ingame its not that hard anymore.

didnt buy HoT for months also if not after a year, but at some point it just made me mad that i get wrecked by lesser skilled players just cus certain core chars where barely on par with new elites.

they give OP elites forcing u to buy this non sense expansion for WvW / sPvP else u get wrecked by OP elites just like HoT didnt add a jackshit to game for me also yet i had to buy cus most Core toons where just that much worse..

kitten elite but since its a new elite u make it insane OP so u gotta buy the expansion in order to play properly.

who kitten wants rifle on a thief >.<

the less obvious as we all know new elites > old ones
so u pretty much forced to buy this kitten while it offers nothing new to WvW…

amazing seriously i dont mind paying for stuff but getting absolutely nothing back for it for years already isnt rly nice

LetoII.3782:

Get em all the time from unbound energy lotto.

So yeah, you can

explain me how to do that..

cus i really havent gone to new maps much, cus i dislike how arena net is forcing all maps into mushroom jump / glide style instead of “open field map” we have narrow passages etc so dont really know where to spend my unbound energy if im thinking of same thing as u.

i mean since reward tracks have kicked in i might aswell try make legendary slowly no? but now i need 100 karka shells i cant find a reward track rewarding those things..

so i have to go pve and farm em my self? or buy em off the AH?

so in other words WvW / sPvP (i guess also) cant possibly get all mats by just “farming” their game mode.

i mean since reward tracks have kicked in i might aswell try make legendary slowly no? but now i need 100 karka shells i cant find a reward track rewarding those things..

so i have to go pve and farm em my self? or buy em off the AH?

so in other words WvW / sPvP (i guess also) cant possibly get all mats by just “farming” their game mode.

penelopehannibal.8947:

Wallets at the ready!

nope, i bought gw2 i was happy with pve / wvw / spvp
i bought HoT i disliked PvE so much with so much focus on gliding and no more amazing events like cursed shore all farming came from freaking glide events i felt like whole map is build up in 2D super mario bro’s cus by walking u get nowhere everything is blocked off by walls and u gotta glide/use mushrooms or w/e to get around.
sPvP i started to dislike that pre hot already
WvW i still like it even tho these stupid HoT new builds kinda made WvW bit boring if u ask me.

so unless they can fix atleast freaking PvE maps to be OPEN and not closed by 100 walls and forcing u to use stupid jump mushrooms and glide then i would buy it but not for crap maps they have been doing lately (and no i didnt unlock all maps i just unlocked frostbite or w/e name is and that new map from today?) that is it i guess ah and that kittenty map that has endless floating little island everywhere worst kitten ever seen in my life

sure

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQFAVn8lCFNhtNBGOB8PhFZCTbPNFCAzdwQYJ0bLMG+QA-TpQTABAs/gwPAAA

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Superior_Sigil_of_Stamina
put that on ur short bow

and then u just dodge around in the zerg swap to d/d to dodge more around in the zerg

so all u do is slam poison on enemy zerg (shortbow 4 skill) and dodge around in it if possible works like a charm is boring as kitten but funny to see all em haters cus if ur winning the fight ur just on perma dodge spree with sigil of stamina..

tho i just play this build for the kitten of it i wouldnt play it as main thief :p

this is kitten and should be removed from game i barely make any money in WvW only money i make is from weaps/armor with proper sigils on it.
if no1 needs sigils anymore how kitten am i suppose to make a little gold to fund my little needs to craft once in a while some food? or get my self some extra fun thing of the Auction house