Guild Wars 2

Am I against it? No. I’d love it. In fact, it does work like this if you let your LF run out naturally. But I’m sure it would shake up balance a bit and I guarantee there would be tears, so it’ll never happen. Necro is one of the least popular classes, thus they get the least special attention.

I’ll try to make my MM build stronger. I may even try making it Celestial. Who knows, I’m crazy!

Mesmers who think its bad due to 3 clones, try having 6 pets, 1 more that can spawn when you kill something and Ogre runes.
A possibility of 7-8 pets at once plus myself. They could just press C&D at any point and go into stealth. XD
(no comment on C&D nor MM, I say all is fair game) just saying, it’s worse on Mm. :P

I think it was good. I find that it adds play. Do I stack and take the risk of both being cleansed or separate them so that if one gets cleared I still have one?

Personally, I think it’s a bit of a L2P issue, I think it adds some flavor to combat. Now, I don’t REALLY think it should stack more than say… 6-8 seconds at a time, but you should really have enough condi removal to cover that and clear immobs faster before they get too covered up.

At least your name is fitting.

DanzelOPP.5068:

I missed your amazing ability to troll Ron pierce!!! Well done sir!

Trolling in a troll thread? Imposserus. :P
I go where I’m needed.

Good thread. Thanks for your valuable feedback and constructive criticism.

Lol… People and their Lyssa. When a nerf of a rune set causes this much of an uproar, you KNOW it wasn’t in line with the others.

Dee Jay.2460:

a t s e.9614:

Play a thief people will send you hate mails.

I call it “fanmail”.

Funny, that’s what I call all the mail I get on my MM.
It’s good because at first it was hard playing MM, requiring tears to summon the dead, but now that I’m flooded with tiers, the undead are practically growing like weeds!

More like a facepalm moment wondering what the devs were thinking. This goes beyond PVP, though too.

Downed state doesn’t create good plays. It ruins good plays. 1v2 and 1v3s that SHOULD have happened get totally negated because there’s too much strength in numbers.

Those plays are way more, or WOULD be way more valuable than these “super great plays” where 3 people were on the ground, but 1 guy on your team dies and gets stealth stomped so the whole enemy team pops up. That’s not “great plays”, and entire team of losers just got carried by a lame mechanic.

/unlock.

Exactly. Tone down Zerker damage scaling, bump their defenses, nerf bunker defenses and bump their damage, bring the stuff closer to the middle and we’re on a good track to a game that isn’t 2 shots versus the immortals.

Downed state ruined this game. People claim it “adds team play” but it doesn’t. What it really does is:

- Allows people to go full glass and try to lulburst everyone so they can scream in vent for raises when they die, and complain about “tank meta” because people can build proper builds that deal some damage and can survive, rather than try to faceroll zerker like 2 shotting people is skill or something.

- On the same token, promotes carrying people.

- Diminishes the value of support, REAL team play, because working hard to keep your buddies up isn’t as easy as bursting down a guy and rezzing your whole team with a stealth stomp.

- Ruined PvE because support nor any other role has a purpose, more zerker spam, and every boss has to have sheer 1 shot mechanics just to ensure anyone can die because otherwise it’d be too easy when you can pick anyone up who falls down. So rather than play support and make sure your team doesn’t lose, you just try to kill everything in 30 seconds and continuously pick eachother up.

That’s the basics anyways… PvE and PvP in this game could have been so much better, and people could have had real roles, but nope. It turned into Zerker smash everything, add condition spammers and “Bunkers” in pvp, who do absolutely nothing combat related other than live for ever and are pro carriers.

Trigr.6481:

Acandis.3250:

With all this immob stacking going around, and omni-directional skills being nerfed, I think we should be able to turn when immob.

It seems slightly unfair that classes with evade skills can spam away while immob, but classes that rely on uni-directional skills for defense get the shaft.

/discuss

Also being able to dodge while immob should be added in.

Countless

Not a bad idea! Then we can just add jumping and movement when immobilized and we’ll be set!

If you’re good and you win, or smart and play a build that gets kitten done, you’re a noob.

You’re only good if you’re good at taking a beating and play builds that purposefully suck just so you can be “PvP ethical”.

Hope this helps!

Chaith.8256:

ronpierce.2760:

Chaba.5410:

What’s the precursor for that one? I want!

Precursor to “The Shaft” is obviously “The Head”…

Lol, nah. It should be something like: “The Flaccid One” – that way it can have an easily understandable power gain, when it you power it up with legendary components.

I thought this was all about pvpers getting screwed? Pretty sure in that case “The Head” comes before “The Shaft”.
It has been a… Long, slow, painful process…

Chaba.5410:

What’s the precursor for that one? I want!

Precursor to “The Shaft” is obviously “The Head”…

Hands down, best part of this is that sigil. Literally had me going. XD

It’s not that gw2 is too “complicated” to be e-sports, but there are too many variables that are generally unknown, hidden, and unpredictable (for both the user and receiver) to be e-sports which does tend to stem from traits and runes (more so than general stats).

Things like:
- Too many evades
- too much AI
- Too much reward for spamming
- sheer power of conditions without needing additional stats
- too many condition clears causing conditions to go from super over powered to useless solely on group composition
- stacking conditions to be shared amongst players thus more than one condi player together can end up stepping on one another’s feet where power doesn’t have that (would be like adding a max 10% damage from power attacks per second cap)
- thief initiative system differing so much from the other 7 classes which rely on CDs
- proc rates
- Sheer amount of not visible ICDs on long cool down traits (30+ seconds)
- lack of game modes worth considering “e-sport” worthy

These items are what stop e-sports. Not depth and complexity, but more the execution of depth/complexity that leads to too much nonsense and unknown factors.

Ah yes. I remember all of those buggy Skyhammer matches 2 years ago.

I play pretty different.
Movement:
- I keep right click down, and move by holding left and right mouse buttons down.
- jump with space.
- dodge roll with my side-mouse button.
- key kind strafe left/right to mouse buttons.

Attack:
I attack with 1-5
F1-4 for class specific
Heal and utilities are QWERT.

Tab for tabtargetting.

I do pretty well and don’t stumble over anythig.

So… Who’s going to apologize to China for us having broke the game more while testing it for them? :S 1 – 2 – 3 – NOT IT!

Just wanted to say, welcome to f2p models with a gem→gold system. You didn’t think it affected your game? Well, there you go…

Typically I open with:
Haunt (Shadow fiend active)+ Rigor mortis (Bone fiend active). They both have a small delay. Then use staff 5 immediately after to get them off balance while those 2 pet abilities land, so they should be blinded and immobilized for a good time (2.5×2=5 sec immob)
Lay a Chillblains on them for poisons and chill.
Swap to dagger and use warhorn4 for the daze effectively stunning the enemy by dazing them in a root, and use dagger 3 while they’re unable to react to extend the root.
Use war horn 5 and dagger 1 for some life force.
As they start regaining control use charge to knock them down. If they try to heal quickly tap into DS, use #2 and 3 to fear them, which allows dark path to easily land for a chill and bleed. Use DS 5 for the delayed immobilize and drop out.
Use haunt in CD and same with other ccs, and just be aggressive with dagger attacks and swarming the enemy.

Edit: fixed some errors, on a phone.

I was trying to give them what they asked… I was top 10 NA tpvp and only played MM to tether there, and because of the incoming nerf to Lyssa, MM will certainly be a “safer” start out for a BRAND new person. They just need to learn how to combo a few ccs and to at least “pretty good”.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vQAQNBIhZakjmmabrxrG2bTASPim6pnUwN4QK2VaA-TsAA1CtIQShkDJDSSksINCZFysAA

No use this for MM necro. I’m telling you, he will win no matter what. And if not, I’ll teach them a thing or two and they’ll be top 200 NA in about 2 days.

Play my MM 20/0/30/20/0 build. Ogre runes, soldiers ammy, dagger warhorn/ staff.
Consume condies, rats, shadow, bone fiend, and flesh golem.
???
Profit.

Enjoy the tears! <3

I could go either way. It’s no less toxic than Dire in many cases. My opinion is that conditions need to be reworked to be able to crit so that condition damage alone isn’t so powerful and reduce the scaling on just raw condition damage. This way condition damage would be more comparable to soldiers without crit/crit damage. Then we wouldn’t have this problem and dire/settlers would just be a normal option. I’d prefer that than a straight removal.

Yes! Make my minions invisible.

Try it. I bet you realize real fast why you’d die constantly without proper utilities lol. Also the big difference between thief having pets versus necros if that necros don’t have perma evade and perma stealth. :P

Let’s not be stupid just for the sake of argument. You don’t realize how much you rely on your current utilities until you don’t have them.

Ravagin.7065:

This is a fundamental power abuse by the Devs; by playing an April Fool’s “joke” on the community, when the community is not able to do so on the Devs.
Poor judgement Devs, very poor judgement.

… and… “April fools!”…? Please no cliff hangers, you got me!

YourFriendMarvin.4127:

ellesee.8297:

should just give them a title. a finisher means work and anet’s not doin any more work for this patch. a title is just text. easy. everyone should get a title based on what rank they were when the patch is implemented and the previous rank titles as well.

Give Vee Wee and I a Rainbow Dragon Please.

How do you know that they’re not already rainbow?

Powerr.3649:

I think anyone that PvPs on a regular basis can second this OP.

x.x

Except people with a brain and can look at things at a different angle. d(‘-’d)

He probably can’t see the master because he doesn’t know how to turn off minion name plates (see below) and asura hiding, which is an entirely different issue. You know the magic rule. Fear what you don’t understand.

In our defense… (Except for phantasms) we have to do quite a bit of control to allow let uptime. That’s what makes mm fun for me. It’s like being personally pretty weak, lack of passive defenses, but we’re swinging a giant wrecking ball of minions which are at a loss without me. I control my enemy so my pets can be useful. Its a fun and unique dynamic. Unfortunately people are too narrow minded to understand that. Must spam moar Aoe, stability and 1111111111 with zerker to be considered skillful. -rolls eyes-

I have solutions!
Make spirits orbs/small floaters that stick to the ranger. No more ai, no clutter, easier on the ranger, less Aoe cap hitting.

Guardian Spirits – turn into spirit buff. Sword has a 1 second icd, lasts 30 second (acts like a wind fury), when you hit, a sword spawns slashing and vanishing dealing extra damage when you hit. (This can cleave)
Spirit shield is a buff, creates a visual of a spirit shield over the guardian. Grants aegis to guardian and 4 nearby allies every 20 seconds and lasts 40 seconds (give aegis on cast too). When hit, you gain 2 seconds of protection with a 6 second icd.
Something similar, non ai based for bow and hammer.

Minions could (though this would be vastly different) turn into haunts. Cast on an enemy and they last 20 seconds and have 20 second CDs. They haunt the target causing the associated ghost to attack every 4 seconds that spawns at the enemy haunted, attacks then vanishes. You can evade haunt attacks and they cleave. Pressing the skill again detonates the haunt, consuming it for an additional effect. (Haunt caste are not evadable, though the ghosts are) They also do slightly less damage to make up for the cleave and lack of ai issues. No more Aoe absorbing, less clutter, etc.

Delete mesmers :P

Almost thought I could be a bird.

Also, this is why we haven’t had a balance change in so long. Too busy with April fools she-nay-nays.

http://i.imgur.com/r69yeHd.jpg

Chase.8415:

When they remove leaderboards and divide them into leagues that’s when you’ll expect to see some leaderboard specific titles.

Question is, will the game still be running in 2020.

55s worked pretty hard. I’m surprised anyone 50+ could stomach that much conquest, let alone rank 70. If anything you guys need to be check out for masochism. It can be very dangerous…

We get the 3 of you have absolutely no live want everyone to know that, but kitten , I’m pretty sure from now until FOREVER, we’re all going to remember you guys “did it first”, you have your recognition, enjoy your dragon…
April 15th you can look yourself in the mirror, give yourself a big smile, nudge your shoulder and say “I did it…” Then go find yourself a girlfriend. d(‘-’d) Everyone wins!

Yeah.., exactly what he said…?

I played top 25 (was 7 at one point) and I could only play durring peak hours. I never fought anyone who wasn’t at least top 500, most of the people I knew, and we didn’t have to deal with 4v5s. Mid tiers? Sure you’ll have that.

Maybe you’re rallying for the wrong thing? Be more productive. Let them make the game better, and ask for more titles and achievements based on tourney wins, rather than an arbitrary number that already doesn’t say much because of how many people have cheated the system. You can’t cheat tourney wins (for the most part). Sounds like a better goal to show off than ranks…

Even if leaderboards are wonky, top 25 tpvp (not yolo) means a hell of a lot more than ranks…. Ranks just mean you played a lot. But if you’re rank 70+ and not placing well, chances are you don’t deserve a flashy emote, and that time spent could have been better spent doing something else because you haven’t been getting better with allll that time spent. That’s how I feel about it… Especially considering the stream of tricks people have used to get ranks over the past year and a half… No one’s jumping off sky hammer and making it to top 25 tpvp. Sure, if you’re good it doesn’t take as long to get, because someone has to fill those slots, but it still means more. Maybe a good goal is to see how many weeks/months your team can hold #1 team? Surely that says more than how many months you can zzzz through hotjoins and mindless matches, plus all the other tricks.

No.
It takes 9 months to let the meta settle. d(‘-’d)
No need to worry about them changing things too quickly for you.

Im sure FAR fewer wanted it to be a 5-6 year goal than those who wanted it to be a somewhat reachable 1-1.5 year goal…. As was quite vocally expressed for a long time until people just started to assume it’d never change. If you want longer goals than what is realistic, make up your own like 10k tourny wins or something.

low vitality isn’t going to shatter anything. In spvp alone, I doubt it’ll be much different than rabid, less damage, slightly more survivability. Woo.

I’d worry more about the changes to runes/sigils.

Why are people more worried about Dire than Settlers? Settlers at least adds sustain, vitality only benefits you for a small portion of a fight…

It’s not like rank 55+ players (outside of Skyhammer) didn’t put in TONS of kitten time as it is… Except Skyhammer farmers, but guess what? No alternative would have changed the fact that they gained all those ranks. That’s an entirely different issue all together.