https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/news/Game-Update-Notes-March-26-2013/first#post1700276
World vs. World
Updated World vs. World UI screen to include a new ranking system and score breakdowns by map.
Updated Outmanned bonus to increase World XP, receive no armor damage on death, and increase experience.
Fixed areas where terrain could be exploited to gain access to World vs. World objectives by unintended means.
Aldon’s Ledge siege upgrade now successfully completes.
Ballista bonus damage to siege no longer has the chance to apply to players.
Armor and weapon vendors
Updated their positions slightly.
Updated the items and their costs for some merchants.
Sigil of Leeching no longer affects gates.
Catapult damage no longer affects rams through gates.
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^^
i was about to post the same thing,
Consider desolation, i know its not free but, we have been in tier 1 the second longest time behind VS despite being outmanned for 20 out of 24 hrs, that itself should speak volumes about our server.
Instead of joining some low server and steamrolling thru tiers and again getting stuck in Tier 3/4, we invite u to come to Tier 1 as u will get to fight the best guilds on SFR and the best PUGS in the game(VS) at the same time.
We have no queues even during our prime time, 5 mins at max. and have almost 0 presence during the Russian timezones.
if u need to talk to us or TS is always open and u can drop by anytime even if u just want to look around how it is.
Check with Offski/Wrex/Yanox Yak for more information if u want an alliance with Desolation.
The biggest problem is the Server cap limit, especially during the Primetime where every person holding a spot and sitting in JP is denying someone else who acutally wants to help the server.
i doubt anybody will have problems with anyone if there are no queues and u please to do what ever u feel like.
Building useless siege is highly debatable but i don’t think that’s a big problem though.
IF your willing to look into EU as well,
Desolation could really use your help as we dont have anyone outside EU prime time,
so you have plenty of Tier 1 folks to kill and almost no stress on coverage atall.
i like how they constantly reiterate how PVE players wont miss out much, i wish they had put so much of thought about wvw players in the last 7 months.
However, something is better than nothing for now.
EDIT – new information on
http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/03/25/guild-wars-2-world-vs-world-update-the-designers-talk-world-ranks-server-balance-cheating-and-more/
http://www.guildwars2hub.com/features/editorials/wvw-interview-habib-loew-mike-ferguson-matt-witter
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seriously wtf is wrong with SFR/VS, we have 1 tower in both ur BL’s and u come and hit it with 50 people and leave the other team alone..
why so much double focus!
Its called taking advantage of a weak enemy. Plus Vizunah will want to remain in Tier 1 which means a focus on Desolation is advantageous for them especially when trying to retain points close or equal to SFR.
Lets stop the crap of calling double-teaming when its just playing the game like its meant to be played.
taking advantage of 1 tower and leaving half of the BL alone?
makes a lot of sense to me.
btw am not accusing of double teaming, like SFR and VS do all the time, i was jsut curious about the focus.
seriously wtf is wrong with SFR/VS, we have 1 tower in both ur BL’s and u come and hit it with 50 people and leave the other team alone..
why so much double focus!
This guy is my new hero
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xd0zfyEqrUAnyway , great matchup this has been.
Thank you allepic x)
LMFAO, that was really epic,
am fairly sure, the +/- damage from guards will be more like saving 5-10 seconds more than the normal time it would take, hardly worth considering, same goes for seige as well.
They say better use for canon, not more damage.. am guessing it will be like u wont take AOE damage while using canon for 1 minute or so.
but u will require to have canon in the first place to even use it, compared to supply capacity, which is pretty OP in my opinion.
You seem to be making definitive statements not based on empirical evidence.
They did say over and over again that this will not give a statistical advantage to the players which means and damage reduce will be negligible. however if i am proven wrong and the patch does turn out be “good”, then i will be more than happy to be wrong.
I ll go full canon to one shoot glass thieves roaming around Sm
They say better use for canon, not more damage.. am guessing it will be like u wont take AOE damage while using canon for 1 minute or so.
but u will require to have canon in the first place to even use it, compared to supply capacity, which is pretty OP in my opinion.
I think i’ll go for +damage to guards / – damage from guards and only after that i’ll take supply capacity …
am fairly sure, the +/- damage from guards will be more like saving 5-10 seconds more than the normal time it would take, hardly worth considering, same goes for seige as well.
i had so bad lag yesterday, i couldn’t even use skill 1, so i logged out. but i still think SFR quality has gone down a lot compared to what it used to be.
and btw,
ZD’s does not equal to SFR, i know u guys fight a lot and have wiped us more times than i can count, unfortunately, there are way more guilds in SFR who aren’t ZD’s.
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/releases/march-2013/
I think the increase supply capacity option will far outweigh the other achievements
seriously who will take more canon use over supply capacity?
As ususal i dont think Anet haven’t thought this thru, These don’t even look like actual achievements, more like something they came up on a tea break.
I really really hope this wont be a disappointment
they could have added something actually useful like:
1. less siege cost,
2. less upgrade cost
3. dolly running faster
4. let the dolly carry more supply
5. better Banner ads for guilds on claimed towers
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looks like SFR and VS have switched with each other now,
SFR morning capping, running with massive zergs, sitting in their towers with their arrow carts, only caring about points. and VS coming out to fight more.
PRO VS trebbing at bay on VS BL,
u guys seriously trebbed for 2 hrs without hitting even once, they finally got bored and stopped.
i honestly think without ZD’s sfr wouldnt be in tier 1, u hit really hard
and SFR calls only u guys when things go down, are all other guilds sleeping or just not capable of defending themselves?
Btw Elona is destroying JS in tier 2.
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This 2v1 is ridiculous, so ashamed to be part of that kitten.
What 2v1? I see no 2v1 going on, I see opportunism!
rofl.
good alliance for you deso!
as we say over here: you are “le dindon de la farce”
rofl?
golem rushing the empty map and ur proud of it eh
i say we all should go to JS and have a kebab party there.
what if the oceanics hold the orbs for the rest 12 hours in the off hours?
Wow, seems like the “Vizunah Spirit” is back. According to the motto: If we can´t beat
Desolation in Primetime to reach Rank 2, let´s heavily morningcap them:D
Congratulation!!Which I now believe that some desolation guilds try to intentionally lose.
The Playstyle , from the tactical point of views, of GoD last evening is inexplicable for me.
If SFR is attacking Vizunah Garision at inner Gate, what an advantage it has then for Deso to attack the SFR Spawntower?
The end of the Story was: SFR retained his Tower and VZ his Garision. Deso got nothing!
Instead of capping the VZ Spawntowers without resistance and make your direct opponent lose 45Points ( 25Garision+2x10Tower) you have done Vizunah a huge Favor.
Only one of many examples.
Would some Desolation guilds tactically play a bit smarter, the Pointdistance to VZ would be much bigger.
When will people ever understand, Deso neither plays the mind game like SFR nor the Points game like VS.
Deso has always been a single timezone server, and any server like SFR can easily beat Deso.
Dont expect us to wake up in the morning just to “win” , we dont care whether we win or lose, but we will not lose sleep over it like others.
So guys you made me read 5 pages of nothing only bulkitten.
Sacxr is right. VS are plainly bad and we just like to wipe them here and there. They are not a challenge if the numbers are not 1vs 5 in their favour. And yes they have one good quality,they always come.
To be honest desolation are fun but IRON.. their idea of play is we drop 70 people get the map in queue and blob it is not fun but works for themeven number we win vs them. Honestly piken with hob Rg Sin on the server were way more fun and competative to fight.
And I like Vz claims we rest ect… ok it is the second week you know we are here and it is monday we lead you with 40k honestly we have people who dont play now just chilling waiting for some fighting to start before log in. Because yeah we all know VZ use only siege and hide no open field fun.
So yeah we are here to stay and our goal is clear but to be done we need some help from other servers it does not mean aliance we just need them to be determined to fight for 1 or 2 place in eu rankings! If they do it VZ is done.
And honestly I cant wait for JS and VZ in t1 they will double team all the time will be so much fun and loot
ive never seen ur guild ingame, must be a very important guild in SFR!
u talk as ikittennow everything, assuming u jumped with the rest of bandwagon to SFR from Piken and talk like uve been in Tier 1 for ages.
If u dont wanna fight IRON, jsut go to a different BL, its quite simple, or go to EB, we never go there anyway.
Lagfest…………..
its not the window mode, i playon window mode and i can tell u it looks nothing like ur pic.
what ur referring to is called zoomhack,
The problem is with the scoring system and not with EU/oceanics
Right now, having 10 EU/Oceanics is a lot more fruitful than having 100 NA on any servers which is imbalanced in my opinion, but Anet and loooot of people here think otherwise.
ah its russian holday, no wonder, ZD’s running with full guild at this time.
Even though we are losing quite badly,
This week has been a blast and lots of fights with SFR and VS, this is much much better than fighting Elona and VS,
about IRON and the big blob, people should understand that we are not an elitist guild like some others there, our TS is open to all, we encourage all the pugs to run with us, we don’t turn anybody away from us, of course at times its very difficult for us to go against organised guilds with more than 50% of pugs in the group(and half of them are not on TS), but i think at the end of it all, its how much fun u have in WvW.
We are a new guild, just started with gw2 and might also be one of the bigger guilds in EU. as our only intent was to play wvw with like minded people without any requirements other than TS . hence we never paid much interest to GvG, now that we’ve done few rounds, we think its a good opportunity for us to grow as a guild and hence decided to put up a team, its sad to see RG constantly whining about IRON rather than encouraging such guilds to do WvW.
its also sad to see so many IRON trolling in this threads, all the good work we do goes down the drain because of few people here.
I think its more about Dev interest rather than anything else,
For example, ive been following J Sharp’s posts on forums,
He really takes his time out and very regularly interacts with the sPVP community and is always giving his view.
WvW on the other hand just has 2 developers who write 1 post every 2 weeks and that too its mostly about clarification about some random question.
Then go on your own?
nah, am too valuable for my guild, they will cry and hold a weeklong protest and we will drop to tier 2,
too many consequences!
Said below is based on my opinion and my opinion only and is in no way meant to troll anyone.
While I admit NA ladder has better coverage than EU ladder and thus would win EU in a matchup I can’t resist throwing out my opinion: Quality in EU is better. We have more top guilds. When we play we play hard. Or do we?
Without flaming anymore than this some opinions coming from actual experience would be nice here. If I’m totally proved wrong, hands up and no more arguments from here. How about it VotF, RG, PRX and who else?
prx is an american guild.
but i dont understand why people are pouncing on him though, quite honestly if i could move my guild from EU to NA i would, i am tired of fighting VS for the last 3 months.
but as everyone knows, my guilds will not move from Deso though.
now guess which one!
i dunno know about tehcnicalities
but is it possible for EU vs EU in their timezone and NA vs NA in thier times zone on their own servers but share the same map?
so 2 copies of a map be hosted, 1 on EU and 1 on NA and whoever logs in from either region can play, and yet accounting towards a common score.
People “see” thieves?
This is news to me!!
not a good idea, VS will completely stop coming out of their towers.
who is the biggest group of players in absolute numbers ? the euro or NA servers ?
probably NA, only EU,russians, south africans and ME play on EU region.
good fights with OSC and RUSH on deso BL.
it has always been a very reliable site, i still think Anet has made some changes.. an official confirmation would be appreciated.
Id like to know if the math is tweaked if so then by how much???
aww so sad, IRON is doing guild mission now despite having almost 100 people online.
does that mean, u and elona will not double team us next week to push deso out,
sounds disappointing.
At some point in the time, maybe people on SFR will take a step back and understand 2-3 things:
- Massive transfers breaking the concept of ladder implemented by Anet which is supposed to provide nice and balanced match-ups for everybody
- Gaming the ladder (remember the “we lose on purpose to have a better tier when there is going to be a reset of rankings”)
- Server-hate
There are bad guys out there, and there is a server with bad guys yeah, and it’s not Vizunah.
Also, Deso, Elona, Vizunah. No hate, respectful discussions, nice fights.
And so SFR appears (or want to appear) and what do we already see ?
Kittentalking. Again.
/sigh
Please…
though i hate ur server with a passion, i have to agree with this statement.
but it does look like SFR will not be in tier 1 next week. even though less than 2 points separate them from Elona. but VS giving them free towers and focus on deso is definitely helping their cause, and since we wont be falling down either way, we aren’t really bothered much.
i like how ESO is planning their structure,
1 mega server where everybody from every region can log in and then divided in 3 factions.
i wish GW2 had something similar.
I have played over 1000 hrs in WvW too and hardly any PVE, and quite honestly i dont even care what we get and we dont.
IF this move brings new PVE crowd to WvW cos they are not lacking behind, its a good thing in my eyes atleast. wvW has sever populations issues right now.
All i care in WvW is to have a healthy population, good fights and be competitive which is more fun than running after titles and achievements which honestly nothing more than little pixels.
i thought WvW understood this a lot more than others.
Giving something to us WvW is appreciated, but somethings are more important to me atleast.
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am fairly sure they are not making new maps, they are changing the middle lake in the BL’s however.
Why do the interviewers ask suck kittenty questions, this is what happens when PVE carebears do the interview.
i was really bored, so came up to see which server from NA is “brother” of EU.
1. JQ=VS – Both have been in tier 1 since the beginning, often being beaten in tier 1 but never pushed and always come back stronger.have seen many servers come and go but have withstood every server and currently, both cannot be beaten that easily, if at all.
2. Deso=BG – both very really hyped at the launch and propelled to tier 1 sooner than they were ready, got their butts handed to them and went down to even tier 4, but reorganized and fought their way back to tier 1, often going in and out of tier1 in the same weeks in their own region… coincidence?
3 SFR=SOR – started quite low in tiers and have gotten only stronger overtime, have also become quite regular in T1 and T2 for quite sometime.
SOR prolly has the best NA force and SFR arguably has the best Russian/EU.
4. SOS=BT – Both server had the strongest off hour coverage and absolutely dominated at their peak, but guilds started leaving, BT went infact down to tier 9 and sincerely hope SOS doesn’t suffer the same fate as well.
5.TC=PS, drama queens :P of their regions, generate more forums posts than every other servers combined. role players for their region, until quite recently have been stable in Tier 2 and both are set to drop a tier this week!
6.HOD/ET = ARB/BT ..both were tier 1/2 servers and transfers off, had a long journey to the bottom. where they currently fight in tier 7/8
7.Kain=GH – Both servers have prolly the most known guilds in their region, WM for Kain and XAOC for GH, both guilds went down to the lowest tiers and pushed these servers back, XAOC however wasn’t as successful as WM as most of their members quit the game when BT was unbeatable.
8. Gandara=Yak’s bend – constantly fighting above their weight and mostly lack population compared to the other servers.
9.FSP is quite similar to SBI, were very storng servers and got the transfers off, FSP however went down to almost tier 7 and fighting its way back to tier 5 already and SBI seems to have stabilised and seems to be on its way up.
10.Elona is quite unique and cannot place it against an NA server, it has always been tier 1/2 server but as soon has the germans get holiday, this server goes on steroids and beats everybody in that time unnlike other servers who are in a holiday mood.
11. FC=FOW – both servers have never left the last tier constantly getting steamrolled by the bigger server and yet they fight on!
TL;DR – am really bored.
Why dont we just stop playing WvW all together. I find no reason to play lately also. PvE is so MUCH more rewarding then WvW. Why are we playing this stupid gamemode?
if we all stopped playing w3, i guess some people in Anet would be jubilant about having fixed culling and pat eachother on the back for the job well done.
cos, quite honestly, the WvW doesnt care about rewards atall, like the PVE carebears.
We want bugs to get fixed and a fair game, and they cant even deliver it.
This is the worst idea for EU, where 26 servers dont play outside EU hours, the 1 server that does cannot be beaten, as u can see, its not really working here.
Since a lot more guilds are interested in GvG combat, i think it would be great to make a contact list so guilds can find each other easier.
the below format to be used, ill start for my guild:
1. Guild Name -IRON
Server – Desolation
Style- 30vs30 ,20vs20, 10vs10
contact person: Gesmo,Offski, Wrex
Type – Casual/Hardocore
Prefered time – days/time
i do like the interviewer however, very direct questions, Anet is prolly not used to such questions.
oh, u have no idea how vs plays wh?
they use camera zoom for starters, the above shows it more clearly.