Guild Wars 2

Couldnt agree more..however apart from iron, there are many guilds who do thier part..like gh with thier golem 2 days ago.
All we need is another 50 man guild and a decent night crew..

I am lvling an alt entirely thru wvw.. Am currently lvl 50 now.. I still get 1 shot by backstabbing thives from time to time..but i just cannot do pve..
I would have got most of my xp from ressing ppl though..its the best way to safely contribute to a fight.

I think it will end the same way like last time we fought. We will lead bb by 5-10k lead all week and then they will night cap us on the last 2 days with 20k lead.

Ive played long enough to tell each bl doesnt support 166 people
More like 100-125 to get full. Dont go their manifesto.

Wow, happened to me too. I tought it was my computer..

Exactly my thoughts. Wvw has become monotonous.
No rewards, nothing.. I am also getting bored of it.

I have no interest in pve or events.but looks we are the minority who wont be heard

I completely agree, WvW has always been the least priority, they dont realise, only peoply like us will continue to play long after the all pve is dead.

i least we deserve is atleast a say.

Urrid.4593:

Way to make NPCs totally overshadow players. Anet, get your kitten together.

when i posted this before the patch, everybody shouted at me.

i heard Chaos left blacktide. is it true???

it means nobody is playing in that borderlands, uff re***ds.

my point is, it doesn’t really help achieve much unless u have people around which is a bigger issue, so the break out event inst the ideal solution.

yea, now ppl will farm this instead.

i am waiting for the past 30 mins, ankittenhe only one there, and you need 10 people to get the event started.

go figure!

millers has a loooot of trebs :P

^^ the above 2 people so different from the same server, unfortunately i saw people like latter in SFR and moved out of there faster than i could blink.

haa, that thread is nice.

BAEK.8561:

salluks.6017:

BAEK.8561:

salluks.6017:

ping should not be a problem atall, heres why:

3 EU servers fight eachother in their primetime(currently located in EU data center)
3 NA servers fight eachother in their primetime(currently located in NA data center)

now,
Mix 1 eu server and 1 na server and make a server x
mix 2nd eu server and 2nd na server and make server y
mix 3rd eu server and 3rd na server and make server z

during eu primetime, server x,y,z will fight each other, since all the eu populations are still housed in eu data center, its the same as its happeing now( only the server name changes and nothing else)
when NA logs in , they also fight each other again on servers x,y,z, (they will again be housed in thier own NA data center)

so, as you see, the servers x,y,z are not a physical location at all, instead they are just names of the servers.

Anet should have done this from the beginning as this would have sorted night capping and population balance.

Elders scrolls online is doing something similar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AkiQBc2moY

What? So you’re talking about 2 physical servers (one US and one EU) combined to form a single virtual server? That still doesn’t do away with ping. If you’re going to place a player in NA in the same world/zone/instance as a player in EU, they’re going to have to communicate, meaning you’ll still have data being sent over transatlantic fiber cables -> higher ping.

Ok let me explain with an example,

u work at apple computers in EU, your closest competition is Microsoft office of EU.

i work at apple computer in us, our competition is also Microsoft of us.

now, lets say the global apple computer is located in africa and global Microsoft is also located in africa.

so even though me and you will never move and compete only against your local microsoft, when the global market is concerned, the my contribution and your contribution will go to global apple. same for microsoft.

so on a global scale, gobal apple computers is doing well, cos am doing my part in us and u are doing urs in eu, and none of us have to physically move atall.

use the same logic on servers.

Ok, I’m either stupid right now and not understanding your logic (or how your illustration relates to servers), or you just don’t understand how servers work.

But let me guess what you’re trying to say. It sounds like you’re proposing a tier-ed server system like how corporations are tier-ed based on locations. You have Apple HQ in California, but there are still Apple divisions throughout the world. So by that logic, there would be a sub-server for EU and another sub-server for US. A NA player connects to the US sub-server and EU player connects to the EU sub-server, and then the sub-servers connects to the global master-server.

wow, i am pretty bad at explaining !

u got it correctly until the part “and then the sub-servers connects to the global master-server.”

there isn’t a master server, the “master server” servers only for ranking purpose, nobody actually fights there atall,
the ranking is calculated outside the game on the ladder by averaging the performance of the sub servers, there by giving the averaged rank of the master server.

listen to the video i attached above,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzLoaHFE6D0

from 3:12, he explains what they do.

wow, 3 millers just glitched and took are fully upgraded garrison with just 3 people,
not cool man!

BAEK.8561:

salluks.6017:

ping should not be a problem atall, heres why:

3 EU servers fight eachother in their primetime(currently located in EU data center)
3 NA servers fight eachother in their primetime(currently located in NA data center)

now,
Mix 1 eu server and 1 na server and make a server x
mix 2nd eu server and 2nd na server and make server y
mix 3rd eu server and 3rd na server and make server z

during eu primetime, server x,y,z will fight each other, since all the eu populations are still housed in eu data center, its the same as its happeing now( only the server name changes and nothing else)
when NA logs in , they also fight each other again on servers x,y,z, (they will again be housed in thier own NA data center)

so, as you see, the servers x,y,z are not a physical location at all, instead they are just names of the servers.

Anet should have done this from the beginning as this would have sorted night capping and population balance.

Elders scrolls online is doing something similar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AkiQBc2moY

What? So you’re talking about 2 physical servers (one US and one EU) combined to form a single virtual server? That still doesn’t do away with ping. If you’re going to place a player in NA in the same world/zone/instance as a player in EU, they’re going to have to communicate, meaning you’ll still have data being sent over transatlantic fiber cables -> higher ping.

Ok let me explain with an example,

u work at apple computers in EU, your closest competition is Microsoft office of EU.

i work at apple computer in us, our competition is also Microsoft of us.

now, lets say the global apple computer is located in africa and global Microsoft is also located in africa.

so even though me and you will never move and compete only against your local microsoft, when the global market is concerned, the my contribution and your contribution will go to global apple. same for microsoft.

so on a global scale, gobal apple computers is doing well, cos am doing my part in us and u are doing urs in eu, and none of us have to physically move atall.

use the same logic on servers.

the problem is bigger here, a bigger problem is nigh capping, and only merging the eu servers doesnt solve this issue atall

they need to redesign the concept to make it truly 24/7.

ping should not be a problem atall, heres why:

3 EU servers fight eachother in their primetime(currently located in EU data center)
3 NA servers fight eachother in their primetime(currently located in NA data center)

now,
Mix 1 eu server and 1 na server and make a server x
mix 2nd eu server and 2nd na server and make server y
mix 3rd eu server and 3rd na server and make server z

during eu primetime, server x,y,z will fight each other, since all the eu populations are still housed in eu data center, its the same as its happeing now( only the server name changes and nothing else)
when NA logs in , they also fight each other again on servers x,y,z, (they will again be housed in thier own NA data center)

so, as you see, the servers x,y,z are not a physical location at all, instead they are just names of the servers.

Anet should have done this from the beginning as this would have sorted night capping and population balance.

Elders scrolls online is doing something similar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AkiQBc2moY

we know that Anet loves its jumping puzzles and one time event and dungeons and what not. But, please keep WvW only PVP!

Yes, i am talking about the breakout event, i really wished Anet would have been more creative and come with a better solution than adding more and more NPC’s in WvW( give more power to people to turn things around rather than escorting another NPC)
WvW is already losing its charm due to unnecessary content(jumping puzzles, useless mobs all over like raptors),

I bought this game only for WvW and right now, WvW is only played by such people , to play with people and against them, not with NPC, if we wanted that, we could have just played the rest of GW2!

WvW population is declining really fast, Even tier 2 cannot fill 2 borderlands anymore,

Anet, please focus more on balancing the population and timezones and pressing issues like culling and bugs instead.

Desolation is winning tier 3 by almost 35k lead.. hardly freefalling.

We only lost tier 2 cos of superior numbers and nightcapping.

I also suggest Desolation, we are currently in Tier 3 and quite strong there, however we are a bit weak in Tier 2,

If u guys join us in desolation, it would definitely be strong to put a big fight against SFR/Blacktides kind of server.

i was always tanky support build, recently changed to this.. i feel really squishy and die to even npc without kiting.

any help?

no server has an long queue.. i am on deso and we had 2 bl’s empty in tier 2.

its better to tag wvw on the servers so people who only want to wvw can moved there.

delete Thief from the game.
on a serious note – Anet give the attention that wvw( and its players) deserve.

seems like we are leading for a change!

You will not find many players if atall any from india. Gw2 is too expensive there. I had to wait until i moved to dubai to play:(

i am beginning to hate BB, they pounce on u on JP the moment they see you!

so far only 1 guy with a legendary was decent enough to not fight me!

Desolation is never full outside of few hrs of the day… retry in about an hour and u will get in.

if ur also conidering eu…
Desolation is worth a look, english speaking server

I was on on FSP until last week, i really applaud maloki and bloodwyne trying their best to keep fsp afloat and wish u the very best.

i recently moved to desolation cos of lack of competitive spirit from FSP and too much focus on PVE, we all faced it when fractals were released.

i think u both are doing great, however there’s only so much you can do on FSP and are only limiting yourselves by still remaining on FSP even though its quite clear that FSP wants to be a PVE focused server.

My guild EPIC also recently moved to Deso from FSP, even though Deso is also a pve server often out manned and PVE focused, some of the guilds there(ex-Iron) are very focused on WvW and would definitely benefit from like minded people like Maloki and bloodwyne who also share the same love for WvW but only on a different server.

I would have never moved from FSP nor do i ask anybody to move from there, however we also have to acknowledge the fact that it wants to be PVE focused,

Deso also is very similar to FSP and is definitely worth considering and you will add the same amount of value here as you do on FSP, only difference is Deso is a little more WvW focused.

Signed
Nornzilla.

I recently moved from FSP because of lack of wvw interest there and decided to move to SFR.
Didn’t really like SFR even though its much stronger than Deso, finally moved to deso and quite satisfied with it so far. i also joined iron guild and like their focus towards wvw.
if your looking for a good server, deso is definitely worth looking into.

I recently moved from FSP because of lack of wvw interest there and decided to move to SFR.

Didn’t really like SFR even though its much stronger than Deso, finally moved to deso and quite satisfied with it so far. i also joined iron guild and like their focus towards wvw.

if your looking for a good server, deso is definitely worth looking into.

Rissou.7213:

salluks.6017:

Rayya.2591:

Tzun.6073:

Where do you pull so many people from @ SFR? It is insane! haha

Been much fun!

Desolation player

we got lvl 1 fractals

There is only 1 server which transfers all the guilds to top servers and still stays quite strong …far shiverpeaks.. Few guilds mentioned above just moved to sfr..sadly fsp has become a pve server, so all the hardcore wvw guilds are leaving from there. ofcourse am not taking away anything from sfr and applaud them for reaching so far.

I also moved to sfr from fsp just 2 days back, and already regret it:(
Am not saying that a majority of the sfr is bad, but theres hostility there for people assumed to jump on the winning server. This also reflects on this very thread.

I just played for 2 days and have already decided to move back to fsp or a more wvw focussed server(desolation maybe)
Again, this maybe becos of only few people who are the vocal minority.

Far shiverpeaks is a weak server, you are getting beat by a medium pop server piken square this week and you are high pop, that says it all.

I hope someday u will realize that the total population of a server has nothing to do with the population of WvW on that server.

Yea. They are trying spvp to be an e-sport, they had indicated it evem before the game released.
And about less people playing so less development doesnt make sense.. When the game released, almost all the servers had queues, people only started quitting after problems like hacking,nightcapping,no rewards etc

I was doing a rough calculation on wvw capacity.
Right now, its approximately 100-125 people from each server to fill the borderlands and around 175-200 on eb.
Even taking the upper limit. It would take 575(125*3 + 200) people on each server
This accounts to appromimately 30,000 active people on wvw when all the servers are full 24/7.

A month after the release,anet said they had 400k concurrent users.
Assuming even 50% still currently play(200,000) Only 15% of complete wvw(24/7 active on all servers) account for thier playerbase.

I would say its more around 7.5% of playerbase considering even tier 1 cannot field 24/7 coverage at the moment.

Rayya.2591:

Tzun.6073:

Where do you pull so many people from @ SFR? It is insane! haha

Been much fun!

Desolation player

we got lvl 1 fractals

There is only 1 server which transfers all the guilds to top servers and still stays quite strong …far shiverpeaks.. Few guilds mentioned above just moved to sfr..sadly fsp has become a pve server, so all the hardcore wvw guilds are leaving from there. ofcourse am not taking away anything from sfr and applaud them for reaching so far.

I also moved to sfr from fsp just 2 days back, and already regret it:(
Am not saying that a majority of the sfr is bad, but theres hostility there for people assumed to jump on the winning server. This also reflects on this very thread.

I just played for 2 days and have already decided to move back to fsp or a more wvw focussed server(desolation maybe)
Again, this maybe becos of only few people who are the vocal minority.

I was just watching there trailer and it seems that they have taken a lot of ideas from gw2. However i also liked their plans for wvw and hope anet considers it.

Basically, the ideas is too have 3 mega factions(mega server A, ms B, ms C)
Each mega server should have a mix of eu and na servers which we currenlty have. The data centres will remain the same. So eu and na will continue to play on thier own servers and this should ensure ping and activity thru the day.
I think its a very nifr idea that eso has considered and could work well here as well.

1 vs 3 nublets..with s title like that..u are showing off

kanikani.2430:

I would like to address the money/gold side of things. People claim that they do not do WvW because the rewards are not decent enough. I level up a char strictly through WvW and at this point have about 25 goldish made. That seems plenty of me, I am never broke or out of money there. My question would be why are people farming money? For legendaries? Most of them are dumb or ugly, I cant seriously think that is the reason.

So people are supposed to farm Orr, so what they can get better gear and thus be better at farming Orr? I dont see the point, maybe its me, I tend to play games for fun. But yeah plenty of money to be made in WvW, I assure you much more then dumb events, now those are a time/money sink. Candy corn is worth how much now?

But yes the devs lack of improvement or acknowledgement of WvW is a major problem. But I doubt that most players know about this. If they minority plays WvW, only the extreme minority is on these forums.

Its obvious that u have never bought a single seige or upgraded a single camp.if u tell otherwise.then we know your making up the story. In which case i feel bad for the server you play on.

Wvw is the biggest goldsink in gw2 whether people choose yo acceptit or not.

i hope fsp goes down a tier or 2.. I really enjoyed our fight with kodash and augury..

suppenkasper.5371:

maloki.3527:

Sird.4536:

People on FSP need to accept the fact that this is a PvX server. If an event comes up you better believe almost everyone is going to take part. No excuses just facts.

This!
<3

And yes.

However believe that tomorrow +monday + rest of the week. Will bring some epic fights!

And this from a person representing an alliance on FSP which motto once was to dominate WvW and nothing else… just sad…

Looks like ur more interedted in inciting a flamewar than a debate..fsp is a pvx server..which just happens to be good at wvw. But not good enough to be in top 2or3 tiers. Hes only stating the facts wheter u accept it or not..

You server is better than us..good for you. Theres no need to bad mouth anybody

we have an overflow in lions arch/caledon forest and kessex hills…its usually about 10 people running in these areas at this time.. yet 2 maps have no FSP presence at all.. i mean zero.

ok i just did the first level of the dugeon and here are my thoughts

1. it requires a lot of co-ordination – not for random pugs
2. takes too much time, for a casual like me this is a big issues
3. jumping puzzles -they really loves jumping puzzles. they have to put these everywhere!

so , being a wvw player, i am not really all that interested in it anyway, however i am wondering if the new items which will drop only here will leave the rest who choose not do it at a disadvantage?

our entire server is doing the new dungeon.. FSP is becoming pve i guess, i dont expect to see much competiton from us.

^ am from ur “sister server” -Far shiverpeaks… we have about 100 people doing wvw and are still in tier 4, will be moving to tier 3 next week.

Augury are doing a last ditch effort to pull back. they had highest per tick thru the day yesterday.

and is it jsut me or Kodash seem to have a looot of thives???

current score

tough some people have stepped up for nights now, our prime time force has gone weak.

we easily held atleast 60% in the first 3 days in primetime, and now can barely keep up with kodash.

Hope some eu primetime guilds are reading this!

current score -
FSP -180k
Kodash – 165k
Augury – 125k

i just joined(nornzilla :P)…very nice initiative and results are alrady showing..