Guild Wars 2

Pvp.2758:

Listening to an Australian chick sing on Team Speak at 8:30 AM.

SoR > All

shes actually quite good, might be a spy though, we lost 100 points since then ..

whats the point, if people just die when ramming it,

range and dmg needs a nerf badly.

Empyre.2531:

Mighty Ice Arrow.9268:

Troma.3250:

i dont understand your post, Alaclis. It give a bad Vizunah image and we do not need to taunt them with a Green map. A lot of them are trying to rebuild. And as a Meta you are a GC member…

Great comment Troma (its because things like this that you deserve respect), but I don’t think he wants to do any harm with its post, it’s just odd, to have this, and I’m sure many of VS are sad with this lack of competition.

I’m sure the way isn’t every server stop to play.

When Viz had opponents like BT with XAOC, SFR at full strength and Deso with PRX Viz always surprisingly suffered from burn out, people taking breaks, commanders not logging in.

prx was never on deso,

i don’t anymore, and being stuck with VS in tier1 is even worse

nobody asked u to paly on NA servers. stop whining!

OMG ELONA
wtf is wrong with u guys, why are u losing points in t2!!!!!!!!!!!

:P

this is one movie where Zombies win every time

Anet may not merge or reduce the servers as it may show a “negative” effect or people might start thinking the game is dying

unfortunately, it seems to be that unless u constantly complain, which EU doesnt and NA does a lot!

they don’t really bother with any changes vabbi has already hit the lowest ranking and i don’t even know if its possible to go lower,

i can understand how u feel, cos we being in Tier 1 are outmanned for 18 hrs a day by VS.

Merging or disabling wvw in lower tiers will definitely bring back a lot of competition.

quite honestly, i don’t see a reason why there are so many servers in EU in the first place, when half of them are medium population, it would be best to merge at least 6 servers, so u have high population and a fighting chance rather than getting stomped week on week.

but Anet will only listen if u constantly make noise about it like NA does.

its better that u usually don’t attack first unless they attack.

but yea i agree, ur a nuisance .:P

the least u could do is wait for him to take then chest and then kill him.

Gamblit.5041:

salluks.6017:

Swampy.1359:

pejot.4806:

Lol, what has lag to do with download speed? It’s all about response time, connected also with PHYSICAL distance to the server.

Also, for people who actually contribute to their server in WvW, (buy siege and upgrades, defend stuff, not just midlessly zerg around) 60g might not be a piece of cake…

Because the people in Europe running 2mb – 5mb connections are still using copper wires…

if thats the case, then shouldn’t all NA with their 100 gb connections play on eu instead?

insulting EU and expecting them to join ur server isn’t exactly helping your cause.

From what i have read so far

EU- good fights, less worry about score
NA – more about points and less fight

so why would any guild go to NA jsut to sit in a tier 3 tower so the next timezone can take over and do the same, when we can fight to death in EU without really worrying about the scores that plague the NA servers.

Forums will not provide you with a reliable information, since everyone has their own opinion, and a lot of them contradict each other.

When i first stepped on to US soil, i also had my worries:
What if i’ll be lagging?
What if i won’t find anyone to group up for Fractals and CoF P1?
What if there would be no guild during EU timezone to join or group up with?

Once i got there, i realised, it’s the same as on EU servers. The only difference i found was the better SEA/Asian, NA coverage in WvW, but WvW fights are the same.

And from my US tier 2 experience they are not too focused on points. Instead they have different commanders, some are offensive, some are defensive. So the focus of WvW really depends on the commanders that are active on duty at that moment.

how would it matter for a EU guild if NA has better NA/SEA/Asian coverage when we dont really play for points?

i was really interested in moving to NA a while back, but NA obsession with winning really put me off.

infact i’ll give u a best example right now:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Vizunah-Desolation-Seafarer-2-03-T1-EU/page/82#post1858901
thats the EU tier 1 thread, has over 4k posts and 110k views, check how many times people ahve posted the score on the entire thread, – its less than 10-20 times

now u go to any NA thread regardless of Tier and see the amount of times people post scores there in 1 day..

thats the thing that puts off most of the guilds imo,

all NA cares about is points, and wins( similar to Vizunah is on EU, and look at EU tier 1 scores, the other 2 servers desperately want to move to tier 2 cos they are not able to get any fights).

Swampy.1359:

pejot.4806:

Lol, what has lag to do with download speed? It’s all about response time, connected also with PHYSICAL distance to the server.

Also, for people who actually contribute to their server in WvW, (buy siege and upgrades, defend stuff, not just midlessly zerg around) 60g might not be a piece of cake…

Because the people in Europe running 2mb – 5mb connections are still using copper wires…

if thats the case, then shouldn’t all NA with their 100 gb connections play on eu instead?

insulting EU and expecting them to join ur server isn’t exactly helping your cause.

From what i have read so far

EU- good fights, less worry about score
NA – more about points and less fight

so why would any guild go to NA jsut to sit in a tier 3 tower so the next timezone can take over and do the same, when we can fight to death in EU without really worrying about the scores that plague the NA servers.

graverr.6473:

Wothan.4673:

salluks.6017:

Cmon ELONA, push, just 10 points more!

be useful for once

I hope Deso is not in a monozerg like Elona this last week

I advise you to start training for pushing 1 and get a decent signet build for next week hehe xd

i hope u use all ur skills against VS,

Wothan.4673:

salluks.6017:

Cmon ELONA, push, just 10 points more!

be useful for once

I hope Deso is not in a monozerg like Elona this last week

we have fought VS for the last 3 months continuously, what do u expect?

Cmon ELONA, push, just 10 points more!

be useful for once

the funny things, i have the same question

how is PVE fun?

u kill the same dumb mob over and over and over again.

Doesnt make a differnece to me atall

it used to be 5 AM before, its 3 AM now, guess i will never do reset anyway.

Charmide.4891:

pennytrashun.3492:

PVD?

25+ & goloms ……………….RLY??

god kitten you must feel so smug with the epicness

Do you see many guys bragging here?

It’s not exactly our fault two servers decided to stop playing, and there are only doors and no players.

At least I assume it’s the case considering the +555

u really cant blame SFR or Deso, fact is nobody wants to play with you guys, and am pretty sure u know why.

u have just one strategy and its not fun, i don’t know how u guys even find it fun. we have no problem with u dominating, but despite having 100k lead over us, u guys still don’t come out to fight,

we decided to deliberately tank this game and go to tier 2, and i hope we actually lose 200 points in tier 2, so we dont have to come back to tier 1 anytime soon.

we have fought u 15 times now, and its the same story every single time.

am sure u guys wont get bored even if u hit doors for the next 3 years, cos thats somehow “fun” for u.

whiran.1473:

salluks.6017:

I think Anet still doesn’t realise the potential of WvW.

Look at any MMO site forums and u will see Camelot Unchained and TESO constantly in the news,

Anet had a a great opportunity at launch to get people into WvW and it was really fun that time as most of the servers were full and had ques all day and night,

i wonder if we will ever see such days again.

I don’t think it’s that. WvW is clearly very popular and drives a lot of the retention of players for Guild Wars 2 as a whole. The more people who are retained via WvW means more guilds retaining members in PvE as well. WvW is like an “end game” for Guild Wars 2 and has a great impact for player retention.

But, I don’t think that ArenaNet knows how to monetize WvW. For ArenaNet to spend resources on enhancing / developing WvW they need to figure out a way to monetize it in a matter that does not destroy or ruin WvW. That’s a tricky thing to do.

Until WvW starts providing a significant income stream for ArenaNet it will not change significantly. There won’t be any large updates or any kind. There -might- be tweaks but that’s about it.

The design lead for WvW has done a really bad job at championing WvW to the execs and for figuring out how to make money off of WvW.

The way that WvW plays out is actually not bad – after all it’s still going strong since release and many of the servers have queues just to get into matches. That’s a great accomplishment for the original team that designed WvW. They made some choices that I don’t fully agree with but I can’t argue with success – it works.

Until ArenaNet figures out a way to make money from WvW it will not change in any significant manner. WvW will always remain on the “back burner” and it will be a secondary (or tertiary) priority for ArenaNet.

In terms of how to monetize WvW: this has to be done on a consumable level (I’m thinking WvW only chests and WvW only keys to said chests that contain WvW only outfits, weapons, and dyes) that encourages players to pay money for things that DO NOT impact the WvW combat. In other words, skins and cosmetic items = good while boosts to hp, damage, timers, etc = bad.

I’d love to see more focus on WvW from ArenaNet but I don’t think it will happen until ArenaNet figures out how to generate income directly from WvW.

it shouldn’t be hard imo.

since cosmetics are the thing they sell to make money from micro transactions

1 PVE- either i can buy a shiny armor and stand in LA all day, and be seen by what 50 people max?
2. WvW – at least 80 people from one server( 80*4 maps* 3 servers)

if i wanted to buy a shiny armor to showoff, i would much rather do it in wvw.

I think Anet still doesn’t realise the potential of WvW.

Look at any MMO site forums and u will see Camelot Unchained and TESO constantly in the news,

Anet had a a great opportunity at launch to get people into WvW and it was really fun that time as most of the servers were full and had ques all day and night,

i wonder if we will ever see such days again.

TatsuKan.5412:

Bren.9320:

Now that Vizunah 24/7 queue for every map coverage is back.

There is no currently no queue… & the are queues only during primetime…

are u guys normal humans or robots?

u have everything on a map including quaggans and ur still running 20+ supply camps to kill the odd sentry that someone took..

ethier.3417:

The epic Naval Battle last night between SFR and Desolation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDprzQQ5sfI

we jsut tried another naval battle, but u guys built sup ballista

but its fun as hell, on vs bl

AWW vs, 2 walls down in redlake on vs BL, why u no come

If anybody thinks Deso is in Tier 1 cos of bandwagoning of VOTF,afterlife, is kitten /p>

they joined deso months after deso hit tier 1.

but u have to whine now that ur server is dying a slow death to make urself feel better..go ahead.

SneakyErvin.3056:

Sorry, but we (SFR) cant help we are a strong medium pop server in WvW. It doesnt mean we cant use more able bodies both in PvE and WvW. So I dont see a problem with the free transfer possibility to SFR.

Maybe it’s the other T1 EU servers that need to figure out what they are doing wrong when getting their hiney handed to them by a medium pop server.

maybe , u should realise that wvw population does not equal to the server population instead of constantly crying about this over and over again.

wow, vs have enough ppl to hit 3 keeps at the same time, and we dont have enough to even defend one… dont you guys ever sleep, go to work or anything like that..:P

typical VS, 5 golems at 5 AM at garison, and still failing…pff

Global servers , 3 factions ins the solution…but they wont implement it, so no point discussing it.

this is really really frustrating to play, ive logged out everyday after jsut 1 hr of play cos of the lag,

Anet, please do something, anything to fix this as this is not fun atall to play!

I have a feeling that Anet placed him only to focus more on communication compared to the previous dudes,

regardless, the replies are very much appreciated.. far far better than the previous guys, no offense ofcourse!

Dayra.7405:

If I got it right, GW2 has a total of over 3mio players, and it has 51 server.
This results in an average population of around 60’000 people per server. At any point in time no more than 600 people (i.e 1% of total population) fit into WvW.

These few WvW-player don’t have much influence on the classification of a server as high or medium populated.

ur math is way off,
GW2 sold 3 million copies, it does not mean 3 million players,

2 months after Gw2 realeased, they got their highest “concurrent players” at 400k
which means the people who regualrly log in to play.

Waffler.1257:

Would be nice to display top 1000 players per server in WvW kills/captures/defends/dolyak kills/sentry kills etc. That way you can still see your position on the ladder even if you aren’t in the top 2 tiers playing hardcore WvW all the time.

i am fairly certain, many servers dont have 1000 players playing wvw in the first place.
if they did, Anet would be paying way more attention to WvW.

Anet lacks so much confidences, its not even funny anymore.

They are so unsure of themselves about releasing patches or anything that they have to test and retest and what not.

Anet said the leaderboards are already launched but will be hidden for the first week in the 26th March patch.

When can we expect this to go online?

it should be 8 GMT, so everybody can take part, i play on +4 GMT and its almost morning here during the reset, so i dont really bother with the reset, but when i get up and come, most of my server would have played all night and are ready to go sleep, leaving hardly any of us there.

people are lying, deso is never outmanned, we just make stuff up

for example, we had 3 waypoints in desolation today morning, 2 keep were lost and we barely managed to hold on to garrison.

u think we are always full and prefer to dance around our spawn the whole day?

get real, deso is a pve server with hardly any wvw, so accepting or not will not change the facts.

if deso isn’t outmanned, then why is is that u never see a single camp in VS bl, cos we do not have enough people to even take a camp on the 3rd BL outside of prime time hours.

since when did that become a zerg??

thats the normal supply camp capping team in EU tier 1 as said above,
and none of them were organised and were very confused and didn’t not engaged atall , u just picked people off.

Check here http://mos.millenium.org/matchups

it shows the reset time incase u were wondering.

DevonCarver.5370:

GrandmaFunk.3052:

Fror.2163:

It’s a fact not really well known over here, but Glicko 2 works better when the same opponents don’t fight every week. It is sane to have the lower ranked guys sometimes play against middle-ranked guys as a kind of “poll”, just to check that the lower guy has not improved his skills.

While that makes sense in theory, it would result in matches that are total blowouts and where most of the player base drops out early in the match.

Which would not be fun and not really give you valid information. Also, every blown match results in a few players quitting WvW altogether.

That’s our current assessment as well, which is why it’s going to take more work to decide what we really want to do here. Speaking for myself, I think we need to change some of the mechanics of scoring to more accurately reflect what we want people doing in the game, which would hopefully get us tighter matches. There are any number of possible ways to deal with this however, which makes it a paradox of choice to a certain degree. Rest assured we have top men working on it! And me. :P

This is the main issue, not the ranking in itself
The point tick for 15mins needs to be relooked at. if we even hope to have competitive matches and at least with different servers every week, doing anything to the ratings will not help at all.

however, redesigning the point ticks to have it more competitive can sort the rating by itself
right now, a stronger server usually wins the the week within the first 2 days and there’s isn’t much to do for the rest of the week, its even worse for tier 8/9 where they get slaughtered each week over and over again.

why not have something that can make servers fight back even on the very last day and have a chance of winning the tier. this is way more competitive and also adds a lot of unpredictability in the week.

so server has chances of surprising new opponents rather than getting totally demolished like it is right now.

this is very true and most interesting part of the MOBA games for example, one team can dominate the whole match, but one well played last fight can tilt the whole game in the opponents favor and thats why they are so addicting, a bit frustrating , but way more interesting.

Swampy.1359:

scrap the rating altogether…

Winners move up a tier, losers move down a tier…FIXED

not really that easy, a server at 2nd place will only focus down the 3rd server to push it down and completely ignore the other server, not the best solution imo,

maybe if a server wins its tier 3 times in a row, it should be moved up.

quite honestly, the Points tick and rankings should be relooked at

Right now, the firest server in its tier is too strong for its tier and too weak for the above tier, for example – the Tier 2 top server is usually very strong for tier 2 and too weak for tier 1. the point tick should be redesigned to make it so, that this is not the case.

Its the only reason that most people go up and stack on the same servers over and over again and the the same servers fighting each other for the 100th time.

the other problem is, the same issue provides a different problem in lower tiers where, a much stronger server cannot escape its tier simply cos its not too dominant( usually its required the overall points of the the other 2 servers combined and much more)

make it more that at least 5 tiers are within each other skill wise, the point tick should be redesigned this way, so we have competition all the time and lot of servers fighting different servers

something where the game is not decided over the weekend itself and the rest 5 days are just a drag.

a lot of people snooping around our TS i see…

Junkpile.7439:

Well it was deso who started whining. We have ignored deso like weeks and one night we attack them they start to whine about it.

ur obsession with Deso is quite amusing.

Sird.4536:

Deso enjoying the little success they have had recently, how cute. VS have capped their home BL many times and SFR theirs, yet why don’t we see any screens.

And lol at the guy how says ‘come fight our pugs in open field’. I have not seen a single Deso guild roaming independently, all you do is run whole zones. Wexp is killing wvw.

maybe cos we are not a PVD server like u and VS, so we cherish such moments..

This has been highlighted so many times, but as usual Anet will not agree to it until its too late, in this case death of many servers.

This is also a far bigger problem in EU than in NA as EU has just 1 timezone and even 1 server with good russian coverage(SFR now) becomes almost unbeatable. ans the same situation with NA with oceanic coverage,

I really think the points should be allocated on % basis of active wvw population rather than the usual 15 min tick which we get.

did they name Devona’s rest after you,

J/K

quite honestly, hes answered more posts even if most are not relevant or the standard Anet replies than the whole WvW team did in the last month,

so i like him for now

Vincent.9621:

salluks.6017:

Vincent.9621:

Got to thank IRON for spending some time with my dead body after I got caught with your 40 guys in SFR borderland just now.
Sitting in my corpse actually made me laugh

Yea, u must also have seen, how ur becoming more and more like VS, the moment ur servers sees us, they run into bay,

Whatever happened to the old SFR?

I love how you turned my innocent joking post into a chance of spreading kitten to my server.
Grats buddie.

not really, i was also standing there, we got tired of waiting outside north bay to pick a fight, and u guys constantly ran back inside the gate, thats why we were waiting there to see if u guys come to fight and u didn’t

we finally got bored and went to hit woodheaven hoping atleast there u guys will come and fight,

not the old SFR i remember.

OMG, SFR almost lost hills, and the server crashed!!!