Guild Wars 2

unfortunately, pretty much most of servers are “dead” during those times

Most organised guilds start to log in about 2 hrs after ur play time.

make the stronger teams even stronger with blood lust, looks like Anet really learns from its mistakes..

King Amadaeus.8619:

PVP=Stand in a circle to cap it, hold the most circles to win the match.
WvW=Use siege to access circles, stand in circles to cap, hold the most to win the match.

R.i.p. players killing players, welcome to the era of the PPT watchers.

haha, u described it well.

to op hang in there, its coming “soon”

Jackie form VoTF has soloed an keep, looks exhausting though

DevonCarver.5370:

We definitely don’t want to go to the level of fragmenting the game to the extent that we have PvP, WvW, and PvE versions of all the skills as that creates a disconnect with the characters we want you to use in all those places. That said, we are certainly discussing the idea of adding skills that would have a WvW focus. But they are just on the discussion level.

i really wonder if u have maintained a standard answers word file on your PC, just copy and paste one every-time you have to answer something.

maybe tricking us into buying these from the TP eh?

I randomly got a mail from Anet with a free wxp booster. anybody else got it?

Kalan.9705:

Does low revenue from WvW lead to bare minimum of dev resources invested into WvW?

or

Does extremely small allocation of dev resources, ineffective monetization, and alt excluding measures like one character only WXP lead to poor revenues?

Which came first? Are we sure WvW actually produces small revenues? Is the assumption of small revenues based on anything concrete or just a community myth extrapolated from the small commitment A net makes to WvW?

seeing how TESO are betting almost entirely on 3 faction War, am guessing the first one.

the problem here is WvW players are competitive by nature and there demand the “hardcore” type of game mode which Anet is either unable/unwilling to accommodate to this player base.

Devon may say 100 times how WvW is improving and more people are logging in and blah blah blah, but anybody who has played WvW from day one knows, how it turned out

From 24 hrs Ques and almost 3-4 hr ques on more popular servers to now almost dead borderlands in T2 and T4 barely able to even fill EB, things arent looking too bright.

IF people think the best of days of WvW is yet to come , then they are dilusioned.

all the 1500+ man guilds who have already left the game , who played only WvW wont be coming back.
and theres only Anet to blame for it!

DevonCarver.5370:

Krait, eh? Oh, they’ll get theirs! As for the skritt and the centaurs, I agree that they feel extremely out of place in WvW. Replacing them is not a simple matter, however. As we continue to improve on WvW we’ll be taking another look at the borderlands generally and what we think needs to be made mo’ better. It’s a safe bet the centaurs and skritt will not escape notice.

how is EVERYTHING related to wvw is soo complicated like some big nasa project working on quantum physics like the way u reply on every single of ur posts.. ill never know.

Move to T1 NA, its full of people like you.

you’ll fight right in!!!!

if u dont like ur server u can delete ur character and change it

fyi..

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/releases/august-20-2013/

Treb mastery = dream come true!!!!!

World vs. World Trebuchet Mastery
Become a master of destruction with the new Trebuchet Mastery ability line! Increase your efficiency with Trebuchets by upping your basic shot damage, increasing your Trebuchets’ hit radius, adding a new supply-draining effect to your basic shot, and learning a new Healing Oasis skill that provides healing to your teammates.

World vs. World XP and Point adjustments
We’re making it easier to earn World XP points for playing normally in World vs. World by increasing the WXP rate across the board! As an added bonus, we’re adjusting World vs. World Ability Points so that your total points are equal to your current rank. New characters will start off with one ability point, and all existing characters will receive one more!

Votf will have good fights this week…Bull,dsd and scnd…

should be a good week for them.

12 ooze spawning instead of 7.

everytime u dodge, new ooze spawn but the old one dont despawn.

and one more bug with another boss inside!

one more bug, ooze spawning outside the cage.

wow, how many bugs 1 single boss seriously have!!!!

everytime i fight this boss, tehres a new bug..

i wonder how this got thru QA testing?

every time the ooze thing spawns, the guy going next always has the smaller oozes to fight.

and right now, i had 2 bosses at the same time to fight.

i dont know if u are aware, but everytime the ooze boss fails, the next person is q has to face the 7 ooze who remain after the failure.

Thesilentflute.8761:

uneditedbrute.8136:

honestly most hardcore wvw guilds (like ZN the one i am in) spend every waking hour in the game WVWing. it gets boring fighting the same stuff over and over, GVG keeps guilds like mine alive, it gives us a challenge vs just blob vs blob, ninja camps and towers, and defend for no reward but feeling we did something useful the 4-12 hours we spent in wvw that night.

if there was no GVG happening in WVW there would be no few guilds left in gw2 let alone wvw. and when /if they add a GVG system (which i really hope they do because it would make setting these kitten things up so much easier)i feel WVW will be taken alot less srs and might possibly die. just my opinion as a hardcore WVWer

I am sry to hear that is the state of EU wvw, but it’s prolly the reason iron went to sor. Here on na we have amazing wvw communities that fight hard every day and night. lol about the gvg I doubt they would dumb down there own content when its a the masterpiece it is, but if they ever did I think you would find that it’s trash you talk about being tired of wvw imagine an instance where only 20 guild member could enter you would be in que for hours your two groups would smash into each other then its back to que. Imagine trying to maintain a 20 man roster have you guys even thought about these things its soo funny. After a losing streak how many players do you think you would lose? kitten think of how many guild members you would lose over it.

@ benjimen About coverage the top servers all have 24 hour coverage we each have strengths in diff time zones and for the most part very skilled commanders. Each week is a battle of who wants it more. It makes me sad that in tier 3 you don’t even try or at least that is the way you make it sound because on black gate we fought tooth and nail to rise through each tier not so long ago. Hopefully your just a bad representation of the people who put time in on your server.

As an IRON member who left SOR and NA T1 zergfest, LOL!!!!!

In a competetive ladder, the ranking for inactive/low active teams should be degenrating.

For example – TW/RG. if they havent played in 2 weeks or so should start to degenerate their rankings,

1. This will always have most active guilds on higher ranking based on their wins ofcourse
2. Should enourage guilds like TW to be more active in GVG.

Another option is to reset the ladder on Aug 28( GW2 anniversary and store the current one as historical data)

I think if GVG has to truly evolve further, it ironically needs to be moved to tpvp instead of continuing it in WvW. It offers far more advantages over WvW.

1. Biggest advantage is guilds being able to fight each other regardless of the server. If u need healthy GvG scene. U will need more than 2 teams willing to fight u on the opposing server.
2. All players will have complete access to all classes and the same gear. WvW currently does offer “advantages” whether we agree or not.. for example – a guy with full guard leech, full ascended trinkets and most expensive food will have an advantage over a guy with full exotic gear, no masteries, and average food.
3.it would lure more pvp focused pvp player’s to at least join gvg guilds and there by increasing the skill ceiling and evolving meta naturally.
4. A best example is VoTF itself to see what spvp backed experience brings to the table. Another good example is richmond of GH.
5. Minimal skill lag and intruptions. Just when ur having a good nail biting match imagine a whole zone of vizunah/blobaddons decide to port in the map. Skill lag goes for a toss. In spvp u will have 4 spectators who preferably are streamers.
6. It will shut up all the wvw’ers who think wvw is only about ppt and winning.

Of course ANET obviously will need to make nonconquest type battleground with varying options like 15/20/25. But going purely by developer interaction on forums about being “heard” .
Spvp forums offer far more possibilities compared to wvw forum which the dev hardly even read and the only responsible dev thinks seige are the most important thing and hence never ending lines of seige masteries.

good series, might i suggest that u link all episodes in the first post as well

will be easier to find for new ppl to follow.

Also, can you do a feature on Menelya , they hardly have even lost rounds, leave alone games. very interesting to see how they go against the bigger teams.

good stuff, but might i suggest u keep one single thread instead of making a new one everytime?

will be easier to for people who follow this and will keep the trolls from spamming the same kitten in every thread.

Kaleygh.1524:

Fatal.2815:

Kaleygh.1524:

really VotF ? you need to blob with Way and BLAK against 15-18 people ?
Thought you guys were better than that.
/weak

we do not need to blob and we never have such intensions. Just happens sometimes by accident, as its hard to control all other guilds etc.

ah sorry for being rude then. It looked like they were following you around for a while
Thanks for the great fights, and good luck with your reset to both AM and AS.

I was running with Votf, i never saw even once any other guild following them,
the below stream shows the whole raid they had.
http://www.twitch.tv/xsuperxgw2/b/435799646
if u look at it, fsv and punk were actually backing each other and honestly had more nos on each guild than votf had.
look from 45 mins on wards in that stream. you will clearly see votf was running below 20 and had to fight both fsv and punk.
it was nice that punk backed off and let fsv and votf fight at 53 mins or so on that stream.

i think the best option right now in EU atelast is all GVG teams to move to Tier 9 and open field fight and GVG to their hearts content!

FOW and VABBI have forever been in Tier 9 and unlikely to move anywhere. i remember Tier 3 was consolidated like this for a while and Random matchups screwed it all up!

u cant expect this to happen in NA, but most definitely possible in EU.

I always considered VOTF to be stronger than even RG. I will put a write up when I get home why I think so.

lordkrall.7241:

Pryda.8257:

Culling did not exist in first beta weekends. And it was obviously a fixed number of people you could see on your screen. This fixed amount, the variable, was implemented by Anet.

Oh, I am fully aware that Culling was added by ArenaNet.
I am simply questioning his reason that it was “because they wanted to save money on servers”.

dig up old posts form habib leow where he told, all they had to do was throw more money(upgrade servers) to fix it.. i cant really be bothered to search.

regardless of it Culling is still not something which shouldnt have been in the first place when they were planning to make 2000 people play accross 4 maps as they intended.

i bet you will say the same thing when/if skill lag gets fixed. that it took develper time, again i would say the same thing, skill lag shouldn’t be there in the first place, jsut like culling.

lordkrall.7241:

salluks.6017:

Culling was a “feature” made to reduce server cost and they were hell bent on not removing until the whole of community constantly made a noise about it for 6 months straight.

u really think they are about the game running on old computers, what exactly the part of " Best artistic MMO available" which guild wars 2 prides itself in made u think about that?

Source for that statement? Or do you only assume that was the case?
There were after all several stages and tests of Culling Removal, which would imply that they work actually trying to get a good solution for it.

Yes, they are actually working quite a bit to make the game playable on medium to low-end computers, which is shown quite clearly by the usage of DirectX9 instead of 10 or 11.

it also shows very clearly in the skill lag which we’ve had for almsot a year now.

lordkrall.7241:

satkis.7021:

I wonder what they are doing, always superbusy yet nothing major updates has ever came out. No new maps no nothing.

WvW rank system? To me it seems like a system made up in few days. Still they are adding new masterys and while doing it not resetting the actual points like they should. You spent your points to something, they add something new, points should be reset every single time something new is added, that’s the basic line doing things.
RNG? Again something made up very fast. This was quick fix which came way too late to help awful server variations.
Culling? Yea it’s nice they finally removed bug from the game that shouldn’t exist from the beginning. Servers still can’t handle WvW as it is planned, horrible skillag makes it unplayable at times.

Oh yeah and they removed the orb from the game leaving all the altars and orb places there standing alone doing nothing like in chernobyl.

Maybe I’m too negative, sorry about that!

You show a rather clear lack of understanding of development with this post.
The WvW ranking system most likely took quite some time, especially with balancing the points and so on and so forth.

Same with culling, the fact that it took quite some time to remove would suggest that the change was a bit more than just “a few days work”.
Culling was not a bug, it was a feature added to help people with bad computers play the game, even with many people at the same place.

Culling was a “feature” made to reduce server cost and they were hell bent on not removing until the whole of community constantly made a noise about it for 6 months straight.

u really think they are about the game running on old computers, what exactly the part of " Best artistic MMO available" which guild wars 2 prides itself in made u think about that?

Jayne.9251:

PetricaKerempuh.7958:

Jayne.9251:

What’s hilarious is that last week Piken was launched into Tier 1, as a 9th seed server facing second and fourth seed servers. Most of map chat wasn’t “oh this is terrible!” but more “oh yay! more fights! this is awesome!”

And we seem to be bad luck for any second seed server. At the end of every week they seem to lose a ranking and another server steps into second spot.

I think if you go into it about the fights and not about winning, the game becomes all that more enjoyable, and you actually start to make a dent.

have you ever been against vizunah? i hope u get the opportunity to see “fights” from rank1 server:P

I’m actually looking forward to it. I’ve been in fights with T1 NA servers, so I’m curious as to how they compare. Plus WvW is about the fights, right? No reason to complain when you have an abundance of choices, lol. Plus I think being the underdog only improves your skill, and makes you work harder.

Challenge is good. Victories taste sweeter when you’re outmanned and you win.

Also Coral: <3

u completely missed the sarcasm in his post.. Vizunah “Fighting”.. boy wont that be a sight to see!!!!!!!!!!!

Culling shouldnt have been there in the first place, i hope people realise it.

its not something we should be thankful for.

Rezzet.3614:

they might not post often but all the recent changes done to wvw are proof they they do indeed keep an eye out for wvw just because you dint get the buffs you wanted doesnt mean they are ignoring wvw , they just cant slap tons of big changes to a big section of the game carelessly heck theres still people crying about the arrow cart buff.

PS: put yourselves in their spot start trying to look at each and every single forum post all categories included .

sPVP does, new event sections does, aren’t they all in the same company who work for the same hours working on the same game or did i miss soemthing very special about WvW that they dont even have time to reply a single post for days on end?

WvW has but 3 sections, they dont even need to look at 2( matchups and recruitment).. so they dont have time to look at 1 section either?

Centrix.4065:

lordkrall.7241:

So, responding on forums = caring?

Wouldn’t the fact that they don’t respond actually suggest that they are busy working with it instead of spending loads of time responding on the forums?

Sure, except we are still waiting. You say they are “busy working” on something, but they have nothing to show. So… I think after almost a year, we can all just list the things they have changed for each area of the game and safely come to the conclusion that WvW is their least priority.

Just because they don’t post doesn’t mean they don’t care. It’s the fact that they don’t post AND don’t do anything wvw-related that shows they don’t care. Or atleast a lot less.

My 2 cops

exactly my point , they don’t care therefore they don’t post!

lordkrall.7241:

zerospin.8604:

Yes and no.

PvP players get new maps all the time, and devs are responding.

We get nothing in WvW apart from silly skills that could be designed in 60 seconds, and no dev is answering.

See the connection now?

sPvP have gotten 4 new maps and custom servers since release.

WvW have gotten new match-up system, break-out events, progression system and quite a bit overall polish + new upgrades more or less every update.

What do you want them to say?
“We are currently working on the overall experience of WvW and will talk more about it in the future”?

New match up system – is just mixing matches, how does this even require Dev time?
it failed btw, look at the 800 reply page of terrible match match making system. it was only an attempt to “fix” stale matches.

breakout event system -another attempt to “fix” matches which didnt really work out

progression system – really 1% more dmg to guards, siege. etc required so much Dev time?

every update in the last 4 months was – cata mastery, ballista mastery, mortar mastery, canon master, AC mastery.
do u really call that an update seriously??

lordkrall.7241:

salluks.6017:

well in a NORMAL world, if people respond, it means they are caring.

dont u think??

U u give too much credit to WvW. i have yet to see whats so amazing that came out in the past 9 months that required Devs to not even take 5 mins out in 24 hrs to reply to WvW specific forums.

So, they should simply keep responding: “We are working on stuff that we will talk about later” once a day?
Would that really make people happier? That would simply make people complain about the lack of real information and the fact that the devs are posting useless stuff on the forums rather than working on the game.

The silence is most likely due to the fact that they don’t really have anything new to tell us yet.

No, they shoudl tell something concrete. 10 months and still they say the same thing over and over again.
Dont us WvW dont even deserve that much?

i highly suggest u read the sPVP replies from Devs, u can see a clear difference between how the WvW and sPVP players are treated and how they are responded to!!

all i am saying is if i am a developer and i genuinely care for my product, i would be honest with my players rather than replying with " we are looking into it, but not timeline".. which for any guy with half a brain can tell that Devs are not working on the said subject but dont wanna say a clear no to kitten people off. thereby being as vague as they can be, which is precisely the case in WvW.

lordkrall.7241:

So, responding on forums = caring?

Wouldn’t the fact that they don’t respond actually suggest that they are busy working with it instead of spending loads of time responding on the forums?

well in a NORMAL world, if people respond, it means they are caring.

dont u think??

U u give too much credit to WvW. i have yet to see whats so amazing that came out in the past 9 months that required Devs to not even take 5 mins out in 24 hrs to reply to WvW specific forums.

MagiKarp.8201:

Mance.5640:

JQ’s “strategic problem” was fixed a couple patches ago with the addition of AOE looting while we are farming BG/SoR zergs.

Also JQ NA is usually ahead of BG ppt for the majority of the week, and our SEA is excellent as usual. BG simply has ocx which we do not, and SoR has EU which we are very very light on.

But its really no big deal as the bagapalooza continues!

Yeah… say that when SoR focuses nothing but you and wants to 2v1 you 24/7 not discrediting your NA … but your ppt being above BG’s NA at the moment isn’t due to your NA being better than BG’s but more so due to no pressure put on you by SoR or BG. I don’t think JQ’s problems are as simple as you make them out to be, from my sources and time in game at least.

I never thought id agree with you, but here’ what JQ does to survive Tier 1.

Waha logs in – Focus down SOR heavily while ignoring BG, make them tick below 50 PPT for a good few hours. SOR gets kitten ed, SOR EU logs in, annihilates JQ from every BL. and then goes on to focus BG cos they are the real threat,
JQ NA logs in, Focuses heavily on BG while mostly ignoring SOR. since SOR is already focusing BG. same rotation the next day.

JQ unfortunately isn’t strong enough to be the 3rd server regardless of whether its T1 material or not, they have to either support 1 server or the other or it would be hell for them.

Anet always claims they dont ignore WvW, heres the proof

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp

1st page of sPVP has a Dev reply on almost every thread, and most of the replies have indepth answers , clarifiy things, reinforcing the focus of Anet on sPVP.

Top 3 pages dont have a single Dev response in WvW – only 1 thread has a response which was added when random tiers were introduced. there is only 1 guy who even bothers to reply in WvW and most of this replies are “maybe” , " in future" , " cannot tell yet".

:(

Rob.7624:

The Devs are maybe busy working on WvW instead of sitting on the forums?

^The logic is strong in this one.

ur totally right, it reflects in the VAST improvements they have made in WvW

oh wait….

and our new SEA guild [BS].

Anet is thinking how to get WvWers to PVE, not the other way around. cant u tell?

Also, Welcome the whole of Vabbi server to SOR, All 4 of you!!

Bash.7291:

salluks.6017:

is that why u keep avoiding GVG with IRON?

Because ramming 20 people into 20 other people is the perfect example of skill… Until they come out with an actual GvG mode that requires strategy and skill amongst players, not that interested personally.

LOL, man u guys are kitten! its ironic that only BG guilds dont GVG outof total 54 servers that Anet has. even the only guild that GVG’d on blackgate left. goes to show volumes about ur server

anyways, congrats to BG on the win, which u won purely by “skill” and in the most “fair” fashion.

u can sleep well now.

pot.6805:

It is sad to see SoR players night in and night out bash Waha and JQs SEA players. JQs SEA is a great group of players who don’t deserve it. I can’t believe they are complaining about JQ SEA focusing them down 3 days out of 6 months.

It is also isn’t surprising to hear SoR also sends nasty troll messages to JQs commanders, they do the same to BG commanders constantly.

have u ever bothered to read ur post history?

u should, will open your eyes!

CHIPS.6018:

I agree with Delarme that server merges is inevitable now, specially with the likes of Vabbi and FoW. The only question is when.

wont happen anytime soon, if u haven’t got the memo yet,
WvW is not in thier top 100 priorities..

if anything they will add few more to show the world how the game is “flourishing”

i have played 1200 hrs of wvw, u guys are acting like i bought the game today lol .

i said i tried spvp for the first time..

Jahn.7019:

Hopefully BG wins so they’ll stop whining about coverage and actually come out and fight during NA prime instead of hiding in their keeps.

Nope, they will chest thump for the next 3 weeks and start whining about PVDoor the minute SOR pulls 1k lead.

Ralkuth.1456:

If you mean the update yellow text, there is no way to turn it off. You can however, exit game and restart immediately when it says “new build available. your game will restart in 3 minutes”.

If you need pointers on how to deal with a specific class/ refine your style in a certain profession, you can ask in the related forums. From your description, condis fly everywhere, but do you know what skills cause condi application? Who did what? That takes practice to spot.

thanks,, i meant the guys who keeps saying,
u lose waterfall, someone killed someone, wow did u see that, and stuff like that in game. its quite annoying imo. but not really a problem.

i try to see the condi dmg, but i am dead even before i know what hit me, i dont know much about necro/mesmers which seem to be the preferred classes in here.
ill read up their skills a bit.

Killthehealersffs.8940:

3+4+5 parts , sound like tPvP to me .

Salluks.6017 , the ncp that u talked to , in order to join a PvP match was a) redhead female , or b) a dude with black hair ?

i joined normal pvp, i dindt wanna join tournament as i think i will pull down others in the team,

i figure tournaments are ranked and therefore more serious?