Guild Wars 2

Kysin.6349:

Whatever the end score, it has been a pleasure playing against TC. You guys are more than welcome in T2 and i’m rooting for you guys to take second place

The feeling is mutual. Most of us are having a great time. We don’t deserve to be in 2nd place yet, but we learned a lot this week. Either way, we could be third place for the next month and we would still come out and do our best. We have a lot of people on vacation right now as I’m sure both other servers do too. Next week will be brutal I bet. Some good times coming!

Choko.6821:

sceptus.9415:

Choko.6821:

Phantom.8130:

Choko.6821:

It’s fun to see TC being kitted by numbers being overwhelmed this time where FA have confronted so many times. But also in that process losing their keep/tower in process with litterally no defend. =/

here’s the key difference though. none of us are whining like little princesses about it. quite the contrary, if you bother to actually read through the thread. yes, we’re getting beaten, but we’re proud that we’re not backed up to our spawn like we were the last time we went against BG or SoR. i suppose you wouldn’t know about that, since FA was completely nonexistant during the match against BG. both of our servers showed our true colors during that match. we kept coming back after getting pounded into the dust, your server ran away with its tail between its legs. if you don’t believe me, ask the people from BG who were involved in that match as to their view of the situation. it wasn’t difficult to see.

perhaps if you spent less time being spiteful, and more time improving, you’d give your server a better chance in the future? and, just to make it perfectly clear, whining =/=winning. while they’re spelled fairly similar to each other, the two words very different. you may want to check websters again so you can change your approach.

I am orginal a Seafarers, but because of this boredom facing 3 weeks of same enemy server at time. I decided to join American highest tier in fastest way possibly and that was FA. Also check why people need to defend camp so badly. Because of this I understand there method. There is no effective play compared to EU I was facing all time. That is all. :p

I’m sure that was really helpful to your previous server. The thing is, we don’t really care if we win or lose. We don’t come here to complain if we are being outnumbered. Most of all, you won’t find any people originally from TC moving to another server. We have been beaten many times, and are being beaten again right now, but we will never stop fighting.

I was only one week at FA and now back to SFR. And the motive is not that. My reason to check is American still running their mouth and it is still true. The camp defend is is considering a valid tactic is like they though also a valid tactic in fps game only to being as history worst tactically settle by facing Europe again. Quite amusing if the history going repeat againg if Anet decide to put Intentonal as WvWvW purpose.

Who is running their mouth? I’m not sure I understand. I don’t see any TC players here running their mouth. We are just playing the game having some fun. Have a good one.

Choko.6821:

Phantom.8130:

Choko.6821:

It’s fun to see TC being kitted by numbers being overwhelmed this time where FA have confronted so many times. But also in that process losing their keep/tower in process with litterally no defend. =/

here’s the key difference though. none of us are whining like little princesses about it. quite the contrary, if you bother to actually read through the thread. yes, we’re getting beaten, but we’re proud that we’re not backed up to our spawn like we were the last time we went against BG or SoR. i suppose you wouldn’t know about that, since FA was completely nonexistant during the match against BG. both of our servers showed our true colors during that match. we kept coming back after getting pounded into the dust, your server ran away with its tail between its legs. if you don’t believe me, ask the people from BG who were involved in that match as to their view of the situation. it wasn’t difficult to see.

perhaps if you spent less time being spiteful, and more time improving, you’d give your server a better chance in the future? and, just to make it perfectly clear, whining =/=winning. while they’re spelled fairly similar to each other, the two words very different. you may want to check websters again so you can change your approach.

I am orginal a Seafarers, but because of this boredom facing 3 weeks of same enemy server at time. I decided to join American highest tier in fastest way possibly and that was FA. Also check why people need to defend camp so badly. Because of this I understand there method. There is no effective play compared to EU I was facing all time. That is all. :p

I’m sure that was really helpful to your previous server. The thing is, we don’t really care if we win or lose. We don’t come here to complain if we are being outnumbered. Most of all, you won’t find any people originally from TC moving to another server. We have been beaten many times, and are being beaten again right now, but we will never stop fighting.

The incentive? You mean like loot or money rewards? Sounds like you are playing the wrong game. The incentive is helping your server win. If that isn’t incentive enough you never played DAOC and got your start playing that other game.

HO HO HO Merry Xmas! Congrats to my Toast brothers and sisters on a well-played game today. Fight to the death, no matter the odds.

This post has nothing to do with our current match or any particular event that has happened. This isn’t a complaint either.

It seems to me that the amount of exploits Anet allows to slip by is really starting to hurt this game. I’ve noticed a steady stream of players that don’t bother to log in anymore. No, this isn’t just the holidays I’m seeing. People seem to be leaving for a variety of reasons. From thief perma-invisibility to exploiting through doors.

I really do hope some fun can be had between all of the issues the game has. They need to fix these things asap. Posting about them in this match thread won’t make it stop. In fact, it seems to me that some folks have a rather casual acceptance of these events and don’t really care much anymore. It really does seem like we are seeing a lot more of this in the last two weeks. For what it’s worth, I’m still going through the proper channels to report cheaters/exploiters. I despise them. Now they are killing the game for some people and they are leaving.

Hello Fellow TC Players,

Last week our players made a pact to keep the drama off the forums. That includes reports about exploits. Let’s concentrate on the game at hand. In the past I fell into this destructive forum posting and if I can change my behavior, so can you. Finally, we really aren’t at our best yet, so let’s tighten up our strategies and support our commanders. Follow orders on the field and don’t argue in public chat channels. Stay focused, as even if we make third place this week we have still shown the people last week that we aren’t here by accident.

BG and SoR – you folks have some quality players and strategy. Thanks for the great fights the last couple of days.

rhonyn.6810:

Yeah the WvW attention is disappointing. I bought the game for WvW and the advertised lack of “progression” (no treadmill). I’m having some fun today, but w/o changes I’m not sure I would fork out more $ for an xpac if its just more of the same (and I would not still be playing at all if this game had a sub).

I’m in total agreement with you here. This game is holding on to me with a string right now. If they don’t make some changes, it will snap, and I’ll move on to something else.

Saw a video the other day of a thief climbing into towers and keeps at will and soloing them by himself.

From my perspective, I can see why people would quit this game because it is frankly broken. The thief class itself isn’t the problem (other than they need a cooldown on stealth and should not be able to stomp in stealth). The problem is culling. Sometimes I don’t even see the thief killing me until I’m already downed because of.. culling. I’m hanging on to this game by a string right now. If they don’t fix these things I won’t be here after this weekend.

I saw a video on Youtube of a thief climbing the wall of any tower or keep (and doing it without any difficulty). He was kitten that it hadn’t been fixed yet, and his posts on these forums were deleted. So he made a video and showed everyone how it was done. This is terrible. There are so many exploits in this game. I just want to say to all three servers that we shouldn’t hold guilds or servers responsible for these exploiters. Report them to the guild leaders and through the system in-game and keep them alone and hopefully banned from the game.

/salute

@Vorpal and @pkilla

I chose to delete my owns posts to stop the madness. I’m done with it and you can vilify my choice to admit I don’t like you (not a sentiment our whole server shares), but at least I’m honest about it. If you don’t want to bother reading the posts from your own server where members act up and choose to believe you are all saints, there isn’t much I can do about it right? All I was doing is saying how I felt about your server’s attitude toward us. How is that vile? You choose to cut out the parts of my post that explain the overall thoughts. Good night and Merry Christmas. Honestly, Happy Holidays.

Phantom.8130:

pkilla.2534:

What’s this “bonfire” that we (FA) have been building for months? I’m dead serious. I’m completely confused by these really dramatic posts about the current state of affairs in our Tier.

search back to the TC/FA/DB match thread. (a match, coincidentally, i was hoping would happen as i expected it to be pretty even after BG stomped us for a week) and you’ll see that thread is filled with posters from FA complaining ad nauseam as well as attempting to discredit our victories and blatantly insult our intelligence. fast forward to the next TC/FA match, and it’s more of the same. the next match, even more. the next match…. well, you get the picture. when the TC/YB/CD match came about, someone from YB made a comment that they were glad to get away from FA’s whining. when FA came back up to tier 3, something new came with them. the conspiracy theories and bragging about winning a battle while losing the war.

essentially, the image that’s being built for FA is that of the annoying kid that lives down the street that everyone just wants to punch in the head, including the parents. until that image is changed, it’s always going to put a target on your head. simply for satisfaction’s sake. the first few times, it could be brushed off. but patience is a finite thing, and does eventually get eroded away. so you get what we had yesterday, and will most likely have for at least the next few days. a lot of steam has been building up, so it will take a while before it’s all let off.

This is exactly what everyone was saying last night. The Dolyak thing just sent the message home. We don’t like you folks. You come on the forums and brag, talk badly about our skills, tactics, and players. Then when we respond you act all indignant as if we are terrible for saying anything. You call us childish and deny any wrong-doing in the thread.

It hasn’t been just this week but pretty much the whole time we have played you. It has gotten old and frankly we want to be rid of you as much as you rid of us. After last night’s silly back-and-forth and today’s terrible real-world events, I’ve decided this will be my last post in this thread and there are far more important things to think about. Good luck on the field.

@Sharpclaw – you are a good guy and a great player but Phantom is right. He didn’t say anything to reflect badly on us. He’s just saying what most of us are feeling right now and getting persecuted by FA on the forums for.

Sir William PD.9615:

Hey are there any parades today? I’d like to attend.

After last night’s parade our commanders gathered in council. A hidden camera was placed. Guest of honor was none other than… Conan The Barbarian.

Here’s hoping we have more parades like last night.

Please join FA as soon as possible. Most everyone there is cool with the exception of folks like Niim, who takes any chance he can to take a potshot at our server on the forums, even in recruitment threads.

You can’t go wrong helping these guys. It is an ideal situation for a server you want to grow with and become another SoS.

Regards,

My posts are deleted. Yes, some quotes exist, but the spirit of the deletion is that this is all silly to argue over and my words aren’t spoken from all of TC or the guild I’m in. I’ll bring it on the battlefield.

“Harsh words are for fools and cowards.” – The Bloody Nine

If its anything like the past, we would have a parade shooting fireworks escorting the yak. I wouldn’t be surprised if the golem worshipers showed up with their own representation in the parade.

Sooooooo back on subject. I wonder what it will be like on Friday after the patch. Another event to kill our WvW populace. I hope they at least do something good with professions that are hurting this patch. I’m starting to see a noticeable decline in players.

Stonesolid.2706:

I have a lot of respect for TC and honestly CD has brought better fights than YB but they should’ve left their drama and alliance offers in T4.

The respect is mutual. You guys (ULTD) are a great group of players. I know when I see your tag I’m up for a fight and usually end up dead or picking up dead friends.

Kman.7358:

sceptus.9415:

@Nyari Cil – just keep doing what you do best in EB. Win or lose, those in the BL always look to EB for inspiration.

FA History with TC
—————————————-
Week 1 – “Bah they are role-players. We will beat them easy they suck.”
Week 2 – “This is bs! We are being 2vs1! TC can’t be good. Role-player. Grumble.”
Week 3 – “TC are cheaters and villains! We are still being 2v1! I have a LOT of badges!”
Week 4 – “CD Help us Destroy the menace of TC.”

CD has bought hook line and sinker into this hatred FA has for us. The truth is, there are no smug faces. We are just playing a game and having fun. Most of us don’t give a darn if we move up or not.

I don’t think it’s hatred for you, at least less so than just wanting to beat you. I was still attacking both FA and TC yesterday night in EBG, trying to take what we could get for points, regardless of the server. Maybe you were specifically targeted in your own BL, but we’re hitting both servers everywhere else.

Your guild is excellent. /salute

@Niim – I saw your guild too. Wait! No I didn’t. Anywhere. I guess I just wasn’t with the zerg as you claim. I’ll tell you what I did though. I held off the bridge at Victor’s against 25+ FA with only 8 people. Long enough for our own zerg of less people being commanded by Jadon to flank and kill. It was glorious. Sorry you missed it! Had my buddy, Thrumdi fighting at my side.

@Nyari Cil – just keep doing what you do best in EB. Win or lose, those in the BL always look to EB for inspiration.

FA History with TC
—————————————-
Week 1 – “Bah they are role-players. We will beat them easy they suck.”
Week 2 – “This is bs! We are being 2vs1! TC can’t be good. Role-player. Grumble.”
Week 3 – “TC are cheaters and villains! We are still being 2v1! I have a LOT of badges!”
Week 4 – “CD Help us Destroy the menace of TC.”

CD has bought hook line and sinker into this hatred FA has for us. The truth is, there are no smug faces. We are just playing a game and having fun. Most of us don’t give a darn if we move up or not.

JakobGW.5730:

DivineBeing.2086:

JakobGW.5730:

Again, most of this is pure speculation:
1. My crew as well as myself didn’t follow a commander. We just kill, whether you appear green or red to us doesn’t matter.
2. The earlier screenshots look exactly like they did on Friday night, when both FA and CD attacked TC borderlands. You saying there was an alliance then too?

I honestly don’t blame TC for beefing this up a bit. I would too if I were on your server. It’s a perfect morale booster to say, “Look! We had two servers form an alliance against us and we still came out victorious!”

Cool, so your group of 10 players didn’t know.

Again, more speculation. How do you know I was with only 10 players?

Oh, wait. I’m sorry. It must be a fact that I was with only 10 players because you stated so here in this thread on these forums.

My bad. I completely forgot that everything stated on the forums is a fact.

Fact: Increased pressure from both sides in TC BL last night
Not Fact: FA wasn’t in CD BL (but was alluded to in this thread)
Not Fact: CD wasn’t in FA BL (but was alluded to in this thread)
Fact: More than one guilded member of both servers admitted there were commanders working together in this thread.
Fact: There is also posts about the alliance on the Guru Forums that confirm it
Not Fact: There is no way to determine if you really know this as truth or speculation. You could just as easily be trying to keep TC guessing.
Not Fact: It could be said that you didn’t bother reading the posts from people in your own server
Not Fact: You may not be important enough for anyone to even inform of an alliance
Fact: Certain members of both servers openly talked about the desire for an alliance for a couple days in this very thread before the increased pressure in TC BL last night

There is no point in refuting this as forum nonsense at this time. It doesn’t matter what you have to say about it, as the TC response will be handled in the exact same manner. Can we do anything about it? Who knows. It sure makes it more interesting. It may be no different than FA complaining about 2vs1 as far as what can be done about it. Perception is reality. We’ll see at the end of the week. We don’t care what the score ends at as long as we have fun. SoR stomped us at our spawn from Friday to Friday in our match with them and we never gave up. We will show up and we will fight to the end.

JakobGW.5730:

Astry.9476:

Kerithlan.1659:

It’s likely imagined on my part, but it looks as though FA is getting a raw deal out of the current alliance. Is that because things didn’t work out correctly at the start of the week?

Basically what I’m asking is, from the FA perspective, is everything going as planned now that you’ve settled into the alliance phase of things?

As someone that’s on wvw quite often, I have to ask:

What alliance?

If players are red on my screen, usually I attack regardless of what the name says.

Exactly.

You might want to review the previous posts where it was admitted that commanders from FA and CD were working together. Also, HOPE was mentioned.

For me this is perfect. I’m anxious to see if we can make the proper adjustments. For EB I don’t worry. That crew knows what they can do, and how to do it. If they need help they will let the BL crews know. On the other hand, I noticed quite a few things last night while taking notes. Hopefully we can make use of the information and adjust to this focus. If not, I look forward to our matches until the servers change, whatever direction.

Araliun.5024:

Sam.3645:

Wow… just wow, we lost everything in TCBL… good cooperation between CDs and FAs on pushing on their respective fronts in our BL, good work, seems like we cannot ever catch a break from WvW now things are getting much more intense.

Are you surprised to log on and see TCBL Blue and Red?

Its exciting. I think this might be the first real truce in this game between two servers to take out the server with the lead. For me, it resulted in the most fun I’ve had in weeks. It will be interesting to see if we (TC) can come up with an answer to it. It will also be interesting to see what happens if one of the other servers takes the lead.

On TC’s part, I noticed several things we could have done. I’m not going to give them away here, but I wonder if our commanders realized them as well. Tonight will be fun. Looking forward to it!

No need to continue our conversation. I’ll take care of it in game, in FA BL tonight. See you there with bells on.

Karykarywook.2481:

sceptus.9415:

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Seriously? Did you selectively just read the posts in the thread? How many posts from your server do we have to read belittling us before we start firing back? In the end it just gets people infractions and the thread closed. Personally, Niim’s post sat badly with me, hence I made a point. I personally don’t think FA is a bad server, quite the opposite, you are in Tier 3 with us and we are having a blast every night. On the other hand, I’m also not going to sit here and let chumps talk about TC like that without putting my 2cents in.

Where was the belittling? Some people questioned methods for how TC was getting SMC back so quickly – where the answer was lrn2sweep noobs. And funny this coming from a poster whom was insulting FA in a post just before my last post.

My actual point is stop with the sweeping generalizations of FA people or any server for that matter. You obviously have a history with some FA players, its not exactly fair to lump everyone or use a specific situation to apply it across the board.

I agree with everything you said. This should go for all three servers. Yeah, no doubt my bad experience on the forum is that one guild as evidenced by the responses from said guild.

If I stay on topic, I have to say I disagree about Heartseeker damage. I don’t even have a thief.

My problems with the thief?

- ANY profession, immune to stopping a stomp (finishing off a downed player) should have that changed – especially stealth while stomping.

- Stealth should have a diminishing cooldown after used once.

- Culling should be properly fixed in relation to the thief class

I don’t think thieves should be damage-nerfed at all. Otherwise, their class becomes too weak.

Vorpal.4683:

Karuna.1357:

So FA . . . I see that CD has wiped you off the face of Eternal Battlegrounds. How is that supposed alliance working out for you?

You sound bitter.

Are you one of those people who fail to realize that alliances like that are precisely what arena.net intended? And that without them the brackets run the risk of becoming hopelessly imbalanced and broken?

The only way things will be fresh and interesting is if the two smaller servers combine against TC, because TC has a huge population advantage. Presumably everyone, TC included want’s a fresh and interesting matchup. Even if they do lose a match, TC isn’t going to get kicked down to tier 4. It would take weeks of losses for that to happen – by which point a new alliance would have been formed against the new lead server.

It’s all a nice beautiful self regulation self balancing system – the two weaker servers work against the stronger server so the outcome is always in doubt.

I’m both amazed and aghast that people think this is unintended or somehow foul play.

And as in any alliance, both sides have to be willing to be the bigger man. Random PUGs will always do something that looks like a deliberate provocation. Just ignore it.

You don’t even need formal coordination or synchronization or anything. Just don’t attack something of CD’s if there are things of TC’s you can still take. Defend your own BL, defend your turf in EB, and attack TC’s BL. How can this plan possibly go wrong? What you don’t do, is if CD steps on your toes in TC’s BL, ,is go to CD’s BL and kick stuff over.

I wouldn’t mind if we lost a match at all. We could use a lesson. The question is, will it silence all the ignorant posts or we will just be subjected to more chest-bashing and insults?

Being underestimated is the best thing about being on TC. As long as people continue to write paragraph upon paragraph of well-written forum posts about our supposed “zerg” strategy, we will continue to be underestimated.

TC does have great guilds. We have great, skillful players. We work together and we don’t give up. If you think our strategy is as simple as sending a massive zerg to the hotspot then you are sadly mistaken.

I respect CD for having great groups and good strategy. I respect FA for having one of the better guilds I have faced (The Unlimited folks). I don’t respect these posts from people who don’t have any understanding of our server and attempt to belittle our accomplishments. The only thing I can say bad about our server is that some of our people have grown complacent and aren’t playing with their usual focus because we have been in this tier for weeks. I don’t think we are ready quite yet for tier 2. Still, if we ever end up there, we won’t give up.

How about your armor and weapon stats? I really like the looks of this. I’ve been running TankKat and have had a lot of success, but I wouldn’t mind having a little more offense and maybe a little less defense.

Niim.9260:

sceptus.9415:

Its always from the same server. You would think after a few weeks of competition a little respect could be earned.

The funny thing about respect, it does need to be earned.

Likewise. Each silly post only strengthens our resolve.

Its always from the same server. You would think after a few weeks of competition a little respect could be earned.

I’ve lost interest. Of course, saying anything negative will get me an infraction. Anyhow, I’m playing other games now.

I don’t like the grind in this game and WvW seems like the lowest priority for development when it should be the most important feature instead of another arena-style game we have all seen a hundred times before.

It is possible people from a winning server would join a lower server. You never know what happens, especially when one feels the community is indifferent as the poster about said.

Speaking of small guilds on TC, that’s where my guild fits in. Iron Chaos – a complete unknown by most player standards and yet we are out there every night giving our all and following the good commanders. I want to merge our small five man guild with a bigger guild but so far it hasn’t happened. We have been around TC since BWE2.

Anyhow, TC does have some big guilds, and some of those are very good. We also have our share of PUG players that ignore the chat and do silly things. Sometimes they even argue with commanders when asked to ignore this or that right in map chat. I don’t think you can avoid this on any server.

I’m sure GODS will be welcomed to the server with open arms. Like someone said above though, don’t come looking to take charge over our tried and tested commanders. Your first goal should be to communicate with our commanders and get organized without causing a public ruckus, especially during reset day. Finally, don’t waste any space with recruiting messages in WvW. Play good, lead good, and show by example how good GODS is and there will be groups like mine who are small and looking to join something organized who will join you.

For my part, I just want as fair and fun fight as possible. It isn’t fun to win or lose by a landslide. I prefer small unit groups that fight larger unorganized zergs. This is why some of our smaller teams suddenly see me around hehe. I really hope this tier can be competitive and fair for all three servers – especially if we will be playing together for a while. That is important to me.

Personally, I’m sad for FA. A good server I would join myself if I hadn’t been on TC since BWE2. With guilds like BT and ULTD you will be fine though.

Kuthos.9623:

Most people I’ve seen that do this are definately rage quitting. I can’t prove it, but I have a pretty good idea it’s not just for “armor repairs”. There may be a few people out there doing it solely for armor repairs, but yeah.

Personally I find it hilarious. This one guardian quite a while ago I found 1v1. He lost so I killed him. Next fight I got him down then he alt-f4’d. Next fight I got him to half before he alt-f4’d. The fourth time as soon as he saw me coming he instantly quit. Pretty funny.

Love this story. I would have laughed my kitten off.

katniss.6735:

I log out on down about 100 times a day. It’s funny from my perspective.

100 times a day? You must die a lot. That would be massive entertainment for me. You have to restart the game, login, load, and enter WvW again. You may not even make it back on a busy day/night. All this time I get to continue about my business with a smile on my face and one less loser in the game for x amount of time. Win!

Finally, you are costing your team resources and time all for your wounded pride. It shows a complete lack of understanding the team effort and what WvW is all about because you don’t simply respawn at the nearest waypoint. I hope there are 99 people just like you in every map I’m in. It would make winning each week that much easier.

Coral, spectral armor is in my lineup all the time. As well as spectral walk. It generates lifeforce faster as well as providing protection. I also use the trait that generates lifeforce for every attack with a staff. This allows me almost constant use of Deathshroud. Finally, I am one of the rare necros that uses 3 second stability on entering DS as well as 3 second retaliation.

I refer to this spec as “Ghostwalker,” because it is designed for damage, survivability, and to control the ebb and flow of large battles (pushing groups back, kiting with channeled-DS skill when moving backward). One of the biggest problems necros face is going into DS mode we become prime target for CC. With stability and good timing, I can survive a very long time and get all that DS-loving to the masses. My final skill is usually epidemic, but I also randomly switch to other skills based on the situation. I also switch back and forth from Lich to Plague for the elite skill.

P.S. Sorry for veering so far from topic.

I love when they alt-f4. I don’t need the money or badges that much, but people who do this just let me know how mad they get because they lose to me.

Vorpal.4683:

I definitely feel that necromancers, rangers, and engineers are both on a different(lower) power level than most other classes, and also far less represented in wuvwuv/spvp.

The necromancer and engineer classes are plauged with a million bugs/foibles and the ranger just seems kind of… bland.

All three are, in a way, ‘pet’ classes, if you count the turret engineer.

I don’t feel underpowered at all. My necromancer is a beast in WvW. I think in this case its the perception but not reality. Rangers and Engineers feel much weaker to me though.

EDIT: I will say though, that Necromancer takes a lot of practice to get down right. Use of Deathshroud and its timing is essential to being a good necro. Also, condition builds aren’t good for WvW imho (and for some reason most necros think its the only good route to go). I’m basically a power/critmancer.

The point is every server zergs. At about 8PM Mountain time we were outmanned in FA BL and they had a HUGE zerg. By 10PM Mountain our server population started to pick up. I can guarantee at around Midnight our population begins to decline.

If complaints like this are normal for FA, then expect some severe forum beatdowns if or when FA goes a tier higher. Seriously, that is a lame complaint. We are all in tier 3 and pretty evenly matched. Some of you folks over on FA need to get over yourselves though.

Aytrix, I’ll supply some screenshots of your server zerging tomorrow. Too tired tonight. I’m pretty sure I saw players from your guild right in front.

Good fight in FA AH earlier.

Stonesolid.2706:

Tallis.5607:

Maniac.5163:

We wiped our borderlands blue with a 10-15 man crew after TC either got bored or realised how much territory they had sacrificed for our garrison and withdrew the majority of their forces.

Well, as one of the TC players that was there, I can tell you that our determination to take your garrison was partly caused by the FA-whining-post here on the forums and partly by the many complaints in our chat about FA-corpse-dancing.

We knew fully well that taking the garrison while Yak was around would cost us more points that it gained, but several people literally said stuff like ‘better to take stuff from FA and loose to Yak, then let FA keep their stuff’.

That’s what happens when you are rude to others…

Sounds petty to me.

/beckon

Bring it on. I’ll be cleaning pieces of you dirty roleplayers off my blade for months.

It’s silly to lump everyone in with the few kitten actually doing this stuff. If you want to play the blame game I’ve had groups of TCers (and people from every other server we’ve ever faced) spam emotes on my dead body and I honestly thought it was funny and a sometimes a point of pride.

I don’t personally dance on corpses unless they’re spies or just hanging around too long, but I will very often /dance and /beckon to passersby and /bow to anyone who fights me in earnest. Does that make you angry as well?

Oh and I don’t care if you’re an enemy or not, if you fall/jump/let me throw you off of a cliffside I will more often than not /laugh at you in game. That’s because I actually laughed out loud in real life watching you jump/fly/roll over the edge to your death.

For what its worth, not everyone on TC feels this way. Most of us attack the most strategic target. That isn’t going to change any time soon. Your server happens to be a big threat™. There is nothing personal about it.

On a personal note, I enjoy fighting your guild. You are all very skilled. If you remember fighting a norn necro in tier 1 cultural – thats me.

Setima.8741:

Well the reward system became something much more focused on after the initial generation of kids started to want something other than just the “win” so to say. Back when I played Quake and Tribes, you didn’t upgrade anything, you didn’t get anything for a reward outside of your team winning if you did well and losing of course if your team sucked. Then games like WoW hit SNIP…

I played quake and tribes too. Those were the days. Was in The Rangers clan for quake, and Silent Assault for tribes.

whiran.1473:

I’ve, basically, stopped playing and I’m from TC.

My experience on TC was a great one and TC has an incredible community.

TC doesn’t get a lot of server transfers because it is a very hard server to get onto.

TC is very susceptible to in-game events. With a lot of roleplayers on TC when there is an in-game event of any kind participation in WvW changes dramatically. Plus, the overall community on TC is older and more mature than the average server – that is not to say that there aren’t kids on TC or immature players but, as a whole, it is somewhat more mature.

TC’s population will probably hold up longer than other servers due to it being the unOfficial RP server.

One thing I have noticed in matches is that a lot of times a ‘loss’ is attributed to population imbalance when, in reality, it’s just players not cooperating with one another.

All sides may be full (as evidenced by queues) but the players may be off doing whatever it is they are doing so the overall objectives are not being taken.

Since ArenaNet doesn’t seem to have any vision or plan on how to address the point system… well, I’ve lost my interest in playing. But, I am glad to know that TC continues to be well represented!

This is exactly what I was talking about. Even TC is losing players to some of the changes or lack of changes in some cases, to the game. The server is full though, and moving here is really hard. I think the case of more people playing the person above mentioned has more to do with people being done with the event and getting bored with FOTM. This new dungeon is terrible design. I’m sure there are a lot of content junkies who drool over it, but as a pvp/wvw player, it is the worst thing that could happen to me. Seeing people leave reminds me of just about every other MMO I’ve played other than WoW. I start, and then a couple months later there are no friends playing anymore. I’m trying to make new friends here on the server though. I want to stick around as long as possible, because this community is the best I’ve been in since Everquest.

Setima.8741:

Also just to throw it out there, other games have now come out that have taken players away from Guild Wars 2 and so server numbers have gone down a bit. Frustrations with culling and recent nerf/buff rollercoasters started some fires and upset more players who of course quit. Not to mention the uproar of upset players over Ascended gear treadmills pushing even more players away with no ETA on when all that yummy new gear will come to WvW. Again, the game is starting to lose it’s interesting qualities and little things are starting to nag on people more and more.

I know the “true” players will stick around for awhile, but at some point there just won’t be enough players on enough servers to keep WvW interesting enough. I mean over half of the people I knew on FA quit and went to Planetside 2, WoW or Tanks just out of being bored. It’s not doomsday yet of course, but I’m seeing a big decline of interest around the game more and more these days.

Hello my friend. I’m a true player, but I’m also an unhappy customer right now. The only thing keeping me in this game is the great community I play in on TC and how fun WvW is. I feel that there are many things that were promised to me in GW2 and ANet is going back on their word. Your post is correct and this is a problem as several of my long-time friends have left because they were not happy with recent changes in the game (vertical progression added), lack of balance for classes they play, and finally lack of love for our favorite aspect of the game: WvW.

I’ll keep at it in this game because I enjoy playing WvW with this awesome server, but if the game design keeps going downhill, my eyes won’t be blind to something else that can fill the space. This game shows so much promise, but it seems like they are letting opportunity slip through their fingers.

P.S. Those friends I told you that left – they are playing Planetside 2. They are bugging me to try it every night.

Peetee.9406:

At the end of the match, regardless of what side you played for, there is no reward for participation.

Throughout the week you either had fun or you didn’t and losing isn’t fun.

Losing does suck, but quitters aren’t winners. Joining a winning team may stop the losing, but it won’t do anything for you in the long run. First, you lost the respect of your previous community. Second, you earn the enmity of players who actually earned their wins the hard way before you arrived for the easy ride.

P.S. this post was aimed at the community in regards to your post and not directly as an insult to you. In my opinion, there is a huge reward for playing each week. No, I’m not talking about karma, gold, or experience. I’m guessing that folks who jump servers won’t understand what I’m talking about anyway.