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Personally not had a problem with it, solved on the attacking side by prioritising incoming warriors and being aware of where the lord is. It’s nice to have a mechanic which allows for active defence and extended battle.

Thanks for taking on board the feedback, big thumbs up for anet.

Allie Murdock.8152:

Fair enough! That is a better comparison, although the LA content was not permanent content.

Well if the concern is to time limit it, then could be a vendor who only appears in WvW during the season, or even better, out of season then people have reason to gather badges and level their alts as a goal.

It’s a ridiculous design flaw, but we’re stuck with it until either GW3 or a major WvW expansion comes along.

Chukree.1756:

Every baddie out there is rank 55.

LOL
Most of the ESL top players are in the 50’s or low 60s at best, and are the most skillfull players in the game right now.

sorrow.2364:

bhagwad.4281:

So pit a team of r55s against a team of r70s a hundred times and see who wins the overwhelming majority of the time.

55HPM, currently the top EU team, winning pretty much any tournament around, have a r55 (Maylo) and a r51 (Niah) in their team according to the latest ESL weekly cup.

Cheese Mode, as for the latest record, had 3 members of their team under r60.

Among the top EU teams, there isn’t a single r70.

Exactly.

To try to equate rank 70 to some kind of uber skill level is laughable.

+1
This has bad idea written all over it.

There are pvp rewards only a few can obtain – such as tournament finishers. and which take actual skill. How about we tell tales of them?

The bit about the ‘mystic R70+ legends’ did make me laugh. Farmbots with dragon finishers sure think a lot of themselves.

Lux.7169:

Why does rank mean anything to you?

He’s not saying it means nothing, just that it shouldn’t mean wasting vast amounts of his life to obtain. Which is fine seeing as it’s something in the current system that even the worst player can get, providing they have the freetime / account share / hotjoin exploit.

I know a lot of people that will play tournaments if there are decent rewards. Even if there is a bump in hotjoin, there will also be a bump in tourment pop as well.

I do agree hotjoin needs a change though, the gap between it and solo que, let alone team que gameplay, is just ridiculous. Hotjoin is like watching ants fight over a sugar cube.

Lux.7169:

If rank is so meaningless then why bother even touching the system? Why will this help the PvP community? I’d love to see how it will retain more players than it loses.

Making the reward system achievable like this will gain vastly more players than it loses, will gladly take that bet with you all day long. People play for achievements, and the number of people who play for something which takes 1000s of hours is tiny compared to the number of people who will play for something that takes 100s.

Rank is not meaningless, however as a grind only achievement it should always be secondary to achieving things with actual skill. Therefore any reward must be achievable to most players.

butch.8136:

Oh god, it’s gonna be frustrating playing against people with dragon who have farmed it in hotjoin.

This is amusing given most of the people with dragon now have done it at least partially via hotjoin, not solely tournaments. Now it gives people who solely play tournaments a chance to get it w/o losing their social lives.

Nobody is devaluing their efforts, they will have a Dragon finisher to show for it. The finisher just won’t be restricted to such a tiny number of farmers any more, just as most pve and wvw rewards are available for anyone who is prepared to put in the time.

Simon.3794:

i dont think anet want something you can grind in hotjoin to be something that represent dedication and prestige.

Exactly.

There is nothing special at all about playing constantly to R70+ other than time investment. The highest rated tournament players are mainly R50 or R60 at best, even though they have far more skill than the R70+.

The only thing special about being R70+ is having a ludicrious amount of free time and devoting it all to one game mode, and in some cases not even the competitive side of that game mode but hotjoin farming. What on earth is special or deserving a reward about this? It’s saying you don’t have to be skilfull at the game to get the best reward, just slave away for more hours in as no-brain an area as possible.

omg more people will play a game mode that is underpopulated and needs as big a population as possible to work.

It’s a step in the right direction, 100% immunity was too much.

bhagwad.4281:

This is an MMO. That is exactly what grinding is supposed to be. And we like it that way. Why do you think people keep playing? The “fun” is in the grind for almost all of us.

1. GW2 is an mmo but has no reason to be ultra grindy as it is not subscription based.

2. ‘We’ is a tiny number of players, as evidenced by the less than 20 who actually have Dragon rank.

3. There will still be a lot of time needed to get dragon rank, let alone all the other achievements that can be had. Plenty of ‘grind’ for people to aim for even with this change. All it does is make that grind manageable for a bigger group of players – which is what every mmo aims for, pleasing the majority not the tiny minority.

It’s a great move. Dragon rank should take a lot of playing, which it still will do, however it should be achievable for more than just no-lifers.

Ultimately grinding take no real skill or brain, so it should never be seen as a huge accoldate or reserved for a small number of players.

5 condis is still a lot, will see how it goes. IMO it’s worth the nerf just to tone down thieves/warriors, that’s a decent buff for mesmer in itself.

Dahkeus.8243:

Personally, I find bunker Guard as one of the best builds to carry in sPvP since you have a lot of stability, knockbacks second only to decap engis, tons of condi cleanse, and some of the best ability to rez downed teammates.

but for some reason people don’t find bunker guards OP. ~shrug~

b/c if you have more than one in a team you suffer greatly from lack of damage. It’s also a role that can be covered by other builds in casual gameplay by other builds or just by playing close-far.

Really sweet changes (for the most part) so far

I’m surprised they changed it to give retroactive bump up, I guess easiest way for them to make the change was to lower the threshold. Have to say I think it’s a good change, too much mindless grinding or exploitation to get it previously, now it’s achievable for anyone new coming into the game who plays a lot of pvp.

well the latest ESL matches all seemed to have spirit ranger, support guardian, hambow warrior, pistol thief, which are the core 4, and then either necro or mesmer (surprisingly most mesmer).

There’s a clear metagame and you can see the difference in say 55hp monks when they are playing without their spirit ranger.

For the most part you’re definitely right, but op builds mean the difference in two teams with similar comms/strategy and most teams are the same on that front as there’s only one game mode. For your end example, I’d say take 10 players of similar skill level, give one eles, dps guard etc. and the other hambow, decap engi etc.. want to take bets on which one wins?

Saying that your point on making progress up solo que via good comms is sound – but comms only works if people willing to pay attention / engage.

yeah racial size is barely relevant and can be just as much an issue with large characters. Also would be massively dull if every race was the same . People really scraping the barrel for things to whine about and blame for losing.

Lucky for Gandara there is edge of the mists, that will satisfy a lot of casual players and giver the queing people something to do.

TESO is a dreadful game, anyone who has played beta knows this, and not in a way that can be fixed through polish. Plus the pricing is ludicrous in this era of gaming.

Wildstar may be a bigger problem for GW2, albeit only for WoW-heads.

In WvW I would agree that lemongrass food helps a lot if you’re struggling with condis in your build. In spvp it’s all about runes of Lyssa.

Yeah it needed a nerf, last thing anyone should want is a comeback. There’s plenty of condi build potential in the upcoming changes with torment on shatter.

I am finding this a rare occurence.

In build 2 I’d definitely go 20 duelling and drop 20 inspiration, still want clone on dodge for those shatters/clone death.

Two more reactive condi builds though, not bad looking.

Shatter is actually making a comeback from what I’ve seen, ESL matches have had prominent shatter mesmers and on my scrub level I’ve been having much more success and fun with it although it does need decent rotation in the team to work. Mobility is vital and shatter can afford portal and traited blink in it without a problem.

It’s not just the zerker damage drop that will hurt with the patch, it’s also the vigor nerf on dodges and clone generation. However both these things do affect other classes, and what will be interesting I think is mixing in the new domination trait to a 30-20-0-0-20 shatter with power lock. These nerfs will be mitigated on us by the 2 sigils each on GS/Staff and this strong interrupt.

It’s probably worth taking in pug zerg vs pug zerg, and will have some pve use somewhere, but won’t be anything like OP is picturing, especially as reflects are only projectiles.

Well looking at changes, more bunke traits, zerker nerf and healer eles on the way. So it may only get worse in terms of that style of gameplay.

Although at least a token new map with no conquest nodes, so that’s a small step in the right direction….

their idea of survivability – +1000 healing power after interrupt and 3 seconds of diversion after enemy kill…. lol

It’s torment on shatter in Illusion line.

1v1 is not particularly relevant, all game modes are group based. Also nobody who runs 1v1 PU cheese build would be able to take this interrupt trait without losing something vital (and they don’t need to waste clones or slot spaces on interrupts anyway).

Trolls are boring,
everything is played out.
all is vain

Good news, so chilled

It’s amazing how persistant some of these trolls are. Must just have the emptiest lives ever.

I appreciate it took time and effort to make the map, but whoever designed it should be honest enough to admit that it’s not suitable for tournament. It’s hurting the game a lot being left in there. Solo Que would be way more popular without it, and one thing this game desperately needs is more active pop.

Use Ether Feast instead of Ether Signet for the Confusing Suggestions build, as your clone uptime is low due to shatters and the likes of warriors chewing right through them. Even Helseth has made that switch back :p

It’s not the easiest to win 1v1, but in any kind of team fight or 2v1 (which you can create often with your mobility from portal/blink/phase retreat) you’re a killer with the daze/stuns and shatters.

Sensotix latest condi build is very good, but more for yolo que or where you lack close/far player in team.

Bigmouth scrubs like this ^^ make me glad matchup threads are ending. Shame you didn’t put the same effort into protecting your own upgrades or using your vastly bigger player numbers to actually gain points.

Deliberate tanking in some cases.

On further testing I’d have to say you are right on taking mender’s purity instead of 30 chaos, at least in yolo que. Helps a lot with all the immobilise and cc spam, plus necros.

Really great build, had other mesmers whisper me asking about it after game. It’s hard to kill with the condi clears + toughness, hard for enemies to clear the damage as well with that many condis being stacked.

Please remove from solo que. It’s horrible and deters people from playing. Seems bizarre given all the resources devoted to try and get players to play, that they leave this in when it could so easily be cut.

Sorry that people spent time making it, but it belongs in hotjoin only.

I tend to play with 2 others and we do ok. It has got harder last week kitten many people joining for rewards and do not play hard to win. However before then played a lot with other solos and it was mostly very good and I’m sure will improve soon.

Certainly no way should change to full 5 only. If you’re that keen on playing full 5, make your own team and win your way up the leaderboard.

Yeah I think me and a couple of friends were on the receiving end of your testing :p was very nice playing you, even when you go thief

Lyssa runes is so strong right now, eventually they may get nerfed, but right now having full condi clear + boons is something which works in most builds.

I have changed it a bit as per my YT comments, 30 chaos and testing which extra trait to take. I find I have enough condi clear with null field and lyssa.

Not sure I agree chance for stun is higher with chaos storm. I’ve seen people claim it, but not experienced it myself. Bears proper testing if anyone has time.