Guild Wars 2

Ruby is so much fun!

That’s the first game today where I wasn’t on top of my teams score and where we didn’t lose by about 400 points. Still in ruby…

Ravenmoon.5318:

Every lawyer with half a brain can plead freedom of speech which just so happens to be constitutional right. Unless you live in like China or North Korea. You get my drift.

There is no freedom of speech in that case. Insulting isn’t covered by freedom of speech and your freedom of speech isn’t harmed when you get banned from a private forum.
Freedom of speech just grants you the freedom to freely express your opinion. This freedom ends at the point were you insult or harass other people or break other laws.
Anet can take your rights to write on this forums or play their games any time if you don’t behave the way they want because they are not a state nor a government. That’s the same like someone throwing you out of their house because they dont like your opinion.
No one would ever argue about “freedom of speech” in that case

I can’t get down to Sapphire even if I try.

Playing core warrior now and trying to drop to Sapphire. Doesn’t work. It can’t be that bad!

XGhoul.7426:

If your team can’t win a 1v2 you deserve to lose

And how do you think a single person can win matchups like that? Right, no one can’t. That’s why the whole MMR situation is that broken.

My first matches today were a “Champions Dusk” were I was on my ele guarding our npc to gate and a thief and guardian following me. My two mates (a thief and a guard) left me half way and ran to attack a necro picking up supplies.
At the enemy gate I stood against two mesmers and a thief and got killed with all my npc, while my two team mates were still chasing that necro around. I asked two times for support in /t and the ones who supported me were the two guys defending our base. We made it into lords room about 1-2 minutes before the other team – with the difference that they all came back to defend their lord and wiped us. The thief went afk because “my team is stupid, lol” and the guardian ran solo into the enemy lord, while two of them killed our lord while we trying to respawn.

That’s the problem with the actual mmr. You have players on your or the enemy team that don’t belong there. They got to ruby by getting carried through sapphire by groups or by the class they play. And the system obviously thinks “Hey, you won 5 games in a row, you should easily carry those 4 players having lost 5 games in a row”. And that’s not how pvp works. If you are a normal skilled player, you can win matches against five normal skilled players, when your team isn’t stupid and at least knows what to do, but you will never win a match when your team has the wrong build, hasn’t done pvp before and the opposing team is good.

This is what happens in ruby since I’m stuck there. Not a single good game in the last two weeks.

Ravenmoon.5318:

Also ANet can’t really make a firm judgement call on this. After all, it’s a competitive game mode. It brings the best and the worst in people. Some people get very emotional. You can’t ban someone for being passionate about your game …

Also there are certain laws in Europe, that prohibit banning over foolish reasons. No the EULA absolutely has no weight in court. Unless you are truly cancerous you can’t have your service blocked by law. EULA is not considered a contractual agreement as much as big time publishers want you to believe that.

Yes, they can ban for such things. And they have too when they want to keep their game healthy. There is no right to insult others in video games. It’s quite the contrary. Insulting in video games is (at least in EU) the same as insulting someone at work, in school or in a public newspaper. In the worst case you will end up in a court. (we had a lot of cases were people had been sentenced to pay some thousand euros for hate speech on facebook.)

German laws don’t protect idiots like that. EULA are in fact no law, but in Germany no court will decide against Anet in a case like this.
The cases were EULA were refused by German courts were about “consumer protection”. We had an example with Diablo 3 needing a permanent internet connection without clearly stating it on their site or on the packaging. And Blizzard lost this case. The second case I remember is about Diablo 3 servers not working in Europe leading to a lot of players not being able to play and bringing up consumer protection in France and Germany and forcing Blizzard to fix these problems.

Last but not least. I really want to meet the guy suing Anet for getting banned after insulting people in GW2. It’s expensive and it will backfire – at least in the German law system.

Fay.2357:

Next time, restrain yourself to be more polite, and send the uncensored screenshots to Anet. They take cyber-harassment VERY seriously, and those people will get banned.

They absolutely don’t.

style.6173:

Phizeke.9536:

I hope whatever they push out for WvW makes everyone happy….

They just need to remember why people go to WvW. Get back to the basics.

1. Allow for large group fights. This is the unique part of WvW.
2. Give roamers something to do. Whether it be escorts, camp flipping, small fights, etc
3. Remove EotM. This is a population killer.

Above all, get rid of the PvE junk. There is a whole different part of the game for that.

This is basically a good fix

Aenesthesia.1697:

shagwell.1349:

Check the gold flow and ban. Oh wait, Anet doesn’t even ban for afk, language or leaving. Just delete the game

Ban why? Is there any punishment for trying to win matches?

Because it destroys everything what’s left of competitive pvp. It takes spot from players who may be good enough for diamond and gives the spot to a player who may be good enough for amber or sapphire. And when that “pushing” is done you have a ton of idiots who don’t know how to play their class in a division where they don’t belong.
This kind of behaviour has destroyed pvp and arena in WoW over the years.

Check the gold flow and ban. Oh wait, Anet doesn’t even ban for afk, language or leaving. Just delete the game

Looks like he is in the spawn area and in downstate

Link.1049:

YB…roamers??? That’s the best joke I’ve heard in at least a week.

YB really has roamers. It’s teams of 40-60 and everyone throws an ac open field when a thief comes to close to them.

And the BG guys really should thank OnS for that kitten. They trolled everyone into that stupid idea of “server rotation” in tier 1 and 2 while all they wanted was a big karma train festival.

Eles healing the conquest npc is pretty stupid (in combination with diamond skin). With two eles stacking it’s impossible to get something down without everyone bunkering at the own lord.

Nocta.5274:

Wow actually has rewards for that. teams that end first gets something special ( a title ), whereas first in leaderboard in GW2 gets nothing for it.
Also getting gladiator in wow arenas is a lot more difficult and represent a lot less people than legendary in GW2. Gladiator is 0.5%; Arenanet doesn’t gives stats but I expect the % of legendary players to be a lot higher than that.

Wow is a terrible example for a working league system. Gladiator titles mean nothing, they are sold for some €, every season there was so much wintrading going on and almost no one got banned for it. I met players on 2,2k in rbg that had achievements with their characters and turned with keyboard.
No, that’s not at all a good “system”

Depending on how many pro players are out there and how many “normal” players, the decision isn’t a hard one to take. The normal players give you more money, Anet. So take the stick out of your rear and fix that system before the pro players are the only ones playing your pvp and complain about endless queue times.

Malediktus.9250:

I dont believe the MMR part one bit. Currently 75% of my games already start with a disadvantaged team composition. Like 2-3 thieves, guards and warriors on team.
Today I even had a game with 2 thieves and 1 relogged thief so we had 3 thieves in total. Needless to say we lost hard. Outrageous matchmaking for diamond division.

This is pretty much what happened to me all day. I played around 20 matches, lost 15 or 16 because we had 3 ranger, 1 warrior or 4 necros or groups of three to four people on my team that fought 4v2 on the far node until the match ended – while telling me how to play.
Of that 20 matches today there may have been three which didnt end up a 500:100 or 500:40 loss (or win).

If the matchmaking is about “We put you in a group full of idiots when you enter ruby” it’s working fine.

Dirtyrascal.1023:

I’m logging in, playing a 2 or 3 games and logging out wishing I hadn’t bothered atm. Sad for what has been one of my top 2 games since it’s launch.

So in a search for ideas: What are you all doing in game (PVP) to have Genuine Fun?

Most fun is to not log in.

Who cares for queue times in legend, when most of the legend players actually play their alts in lower tiers?

Jelzouki.4128:

Thank you Evan for finally telling these casuals that the reason they are in losing streaks in emerald is because they need to IMPROVE SKILL. You can only climb so much to the point where you need to fix your own gameplay instead of whining.

You will fix nothing when your team is bad. And if you lose because one leaves or someone is trolling or just because the other team in the same division wins with 500:50 there is nothing you can do. You can improve your gameplay, but you still we be stuck with players who lost their last matches.

1) Ban players for being afk in a game and for being rude in chat or whisper. Bans should start with a few hours and in case of repeating that behaviour in days and weeks
2) balance before the season. You had 4 weeks of watching your data and listening to players before you started season 2 but the balancing at the moment isn’t great at all
3) separate solo players from any group players. solo players queue exclusively with other solo players while groups of 2 to 5 people have a group queue were they meet other grouped players
4) make the pre hot builds more viable
5) change the achievements for spvp to be doable in unranked or make it a reward track. You don’t want to force people like me to play an elementalist in ranked for some achievement points. But I will go there if you force me and my team won’t think it’s a good idea.

Why the heck do I have to fight groups of five people when in solo queue? Happened the fourth time in ruby now.

Can you get your kitten together, Anet, and start making different queues? One for solo and one for groups.
It’s kittening annoying to get a default loss, because 1-2 of your team leave at the start because they see 5 people with same guild tag on the other side.

And while you are at it, start banning people leaving matches finally (or being afk)

You leave once (a day): 1 hour ban from pvp activity.
You leave twice: 1 week ban from pvp activity
… continue as pleased

Congrats, good sir.

psizone.8437:

Then I noticed the Mesmer kept dying and the rest of the team raging at him so I asked him to swap with me so we can change it up and bring the match back and his response was “That’s not my job” and when we lost he said “l2Rotate noobs”.

He is pretty much right by saying this. He can’t defend as a shatter mesmer. His only chance of being useful is creating unfair fights for your team. If you sit at home node and the rest of your team is zerging and losing at another base, the mesmer is basically useless, because his gameplay depends heavily on rotating and bursting down the one guy defending a node.

Sure, I can understand you want him to defend, because it’s not your job either, but it wouldn’t have decided your match. The best solution (imho) would have been to team up with the mesmer and go tap nodes by creating a 2v1 and portal over the map.
Your matchup and most of your team was bad, but the mesmer was right about his role – not necessarily in that particular situation.

The system seems to think that I should carry fresh ruby players into diamond.
Five matches in a row I got some ruby 1 guys and some sapphire, mostly necros, that never really had to play their class before or just don’t know how to. That’s pretty fun, if you are a ranger (not druid) – NOT!

5 loss in a row, thans Anet!

I did, I’m ruby now. Haven’t played S1, so.. sorry, can’t tell you much about differences.

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

I never said it was smart. I simply stated that they considered it “acceptable.” Whether you or I agree is irrelevant.

That’s why season 2 will make more people leave and less people buy shiny things from the shop. That’s what Anet should consider when they think it’s acceptable.

I still don’t know why anyone after years of experience in the gaming industry thinks it’s a good thing to mix premades with solo players. That never worked in any game.

Yeah, three people are a premade and his damage isn’t the problem. His damage will quite likely be low, when his team fights against a premade group. But you know that already, you just wanted to say something, right?

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

As I said in another, similar thread, this is considered an acceptable match up. The only match permutation that is not allowed is 5 v 1,1,1,1,1 which is not what the screenshot shows. That is 5 v 2,1,1,1. Not much better, but falls within their “acceptable” match ups.

That just shows how stupid “acceptable” is defined. You will, under normal circumstances always lose against a group when you are a 1,1,1,1,1 team.

I still dont get it why they don’t just separate queues like every other game does. I prefer waiting some minutes longer over going with 4 randoms vs a group of 4 and one random.
It’s not even fun the other way around.

Yeah fantastic match making when you play three games against a 4 ppl group with no grouped players on your side and you lose by ~100 points.

So much skill and -2 pips.

Thanks (really 15 chars message length?)

It should never happen that a group queues against solo players in the first place. Not 2-3 people and not full groups. group and solo queue should always be fully separated.

The matchmaking isn’t ok in any way.

I queue solo every day. And the wins are either 500:100 or 100:500 – in any case they are never close.

My last match was a 180:500 defeat.

My Team:
3 players from Emerald – one of them came out of Amber a game before as he stated
2 players from Sapphire – a guardian and me (I’m Sapphire 4)

Opponents:
2 players from Sapphire
2 players from Ruby
1 didnt answer

That’s not at all a good matchmaking.

And by the matches I played over the weekend, there were a lot of those matches going on just.

My last five matches:

504:181
501:67
154:500
500:281
32:501

No afk’ers

I fought an ele earlier this morning and now I need some clarification about what happened.

I’m playing a condition ranger/druid with sword/torch and axe/dagger. The ele was guarding a base and mostly in earth or water attunement.
It was almost impossible for me to get him below 90%.

I remember elementalist having a skill called diamond skin which clears them off conditions if health stays above 90%?
Does it still work that way?

The other question coming to my mind is how did he keep up regeneration for a very long time. He had this buff almost the whole fight.

Last but not least, how do I counter it or is there a way to interrupt the regeneration or is it a passive?

What’s that wvw you talk about? Similar to the eotm grind?

wonder when they hit revenants with a big nerf bat

It doesn’t feel more balanced now.
And can we finally get a separated queue for solo?

I paid my WoW account with ingame gold today and already grind honor for the upcoming season. Thanks, Anet. You made it really easy with HoT.

Genocide.1524:

In short, stop “WvW’in” in EoTM and boycott EBG for a few weeks and play the BL’s. Get use to them, learn them, and you will love them.

EEBG is the better maps for wvw. So it makes no sense to “avoid” them and play a map that is terrible just to get used to it.

I hated EB. I never went there because it was an endless karma train (then they introduced EotM).
Now they introduced new borderlands and I feel like going to EB to have at least a little fun.

The new borderlands (and EotM) were terrible ideas that killed everything what was good in wvw.

back to 100% spvp. goodbye wvw

Ven Zehn.6573:

I think you guys are also forgetting BG has always been more PvE oriented, everytime new PvE is added, our WvW population suffers.

That’s what happens on every server in EU T1 or NA T1. I can confirm this for desolation, sfr, JQ and good ol’ days SoR.

and everybody in NA tier 1&2 knows that BG is often hibernating to get transfers or appear weak in numbers. It happened before seasons, it happened two years ago and it happened before HoT.

Fuzzion.2504:

the good thing is that they pushed the roamers to EB. Which isnt bad.

They pushed everyone to EB

MyriadStars.5679:

Farzo.8410:

It’s an MMORPG, you’re bound to grind and work towards your rewards.

That’s exactly what people meant: Anet made false promises. They said GW2 is different from traditional MMORPGs, but in the end, it’s just another MMORPG.

They changed GW2. It was no traditional mmorpg. It never had gated progression. You could choose the part you liked and now it’s a complete different direction the game is going.

What is this about “it took me 4 hours to unlock all of the things I need”. That’s a statement without any worth.
My main character had 98% world completion, a 60 pvp rank and rank 833 in wvw. And I’m missing ~53,4% of the new elite specialization.

I spent 3-4 hours in the first maguuma area.

So, I don’t think it will be 10 hours for this toon and it won’t be 20 hours for a toon I leveled with tomes and which has a 2% world completion because it was made for a special purpose – wvw.

The best thing is that you made us use up our rank potions before which would have made this grind less grindy and which would have made me play maguuma once or twice while I still had the option for the other wvw only toons.

The only good thing about this grind is that I’ll never buy another copy of HoT for my 2nd account. – which I intended before.
I prefer spending my money on things I like and I don’t like running another 5 toons through pve to play on another server.
I’m not sure if even half of my main accounts toons will ever have 400 points..

Tspatula.9086:

EotM Nerfomatic!! It’s about time. It was absurd.

That nerf should have come at least a year ago. That’s the sad part of the situation

You are kittened when you play more than one character. My warrior still has ~260 points to get, my other toons are on 300+.
And it’s not even account wide?

but I got the message:
stop playing more than one character

I play on EU for EU reset time and have an account on NA for the NA reset time. So.. why do you take that away from me?

Never change something that worked out well for the majority of the players. I have never seen any complain about the reset times at all.