Guild Wars 2

The concept for Dynamic Events was nice in theory, but the implementation is a little be disappointing, it is certainly an BIG, HUGE upgrade from the usual questing system, but it till underwhelming especially orr.

I expected Orr to be like a PvE version of WvW with sieging (NPC sieging) and capturing which would eventually lead to a giant boss appearing and fighting it. Also the conflict between the Centuar and Humans seems too simplistic. Part of me also expected zone effecting events like snow storm in kissex for example.

I believe Arenanet should moved back the 2 week schedule to 1 month but focus on the current Zones to revitalize them and change the story of them, instead of sticking to lion arch. Obviously this might lock out some players from being able to do it, but it would be better overall.

I feel like they aren’t too many choices for character appearance, I wish it was more like aion, but with more restrictions to prevent deformed toons.

With that said, I currently have a level 80 charr guardian and I hate the way it looks. I am seriously considering deleting the character and reroll it as a human female guardian, but i am not sure yet.

Just like an expensive car, you don’t have to get it IF you can afford a cheaper car. If you do go for the expensive car, be prepared to pay the price for it.

Honestly, why do ppl feel the need to complain about skins being expensive when you can simply just don’t bother getting it.

Calae.1738:

I think the developers don’t have a main design idea of what sPVP should be and how the game play should feel.

I would say that is very naive thing to say. Another more logical way to look at it would be that they are looking to see how the numbers play out and how the player base react to these changes. Look at the warrior, the archetype they set for it works extremely well in PvE, but it doesn’t translate into High Level PvP. one simple change can place a class well beyond other classes in real world settings because no matter how well you plan stuff, players are more creative than QA.

However, I do agree especially with respect to the elementalist. it is like the developers secretly hate the class and and love torturing the poor idiots dumb enough to want to play that class, it is either bunker or air fresh with the added bonus of long CD on active defenses which makes you wander their justification of their kittenty tough and vitality, high CD and low damage. (trolling for developer response with respect to their future plan with elementalist).

Shiren.9532:

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

Would it be wrong of the developers to encourage people to play their game every day?

From a developer-viewpoint, of course.

Should the goal be to have players playing every day or making your content so enjoyable they want to play every day regardless of whether there is another time gated mechanic they will miss out on if they don’t? League of Legends is vastly more popular than GW2 (lets ignore that they are different genres) and while there is a daily mechanic (first win) it’s nothing compared to the levels GW2 takes it, yet League of Legends has no problems getting players to log in every day. It’s because players actually enjoy playing the game every day, not because they feel pressured to log in or lose their bonus points.

So yes, when the developer starts using limited time content and time gates as the primary (or anything other than incidental) motivator to play every day, something is seriously wrong. Wanting players to play every day is fine. Using time gates and temporary content instead of truly enjoyable and compelling gameplay is an abomination. Last time I played League of Legends, Halo, Mario Brothers, Pokemon or any other truly great game I didn’t have less fun because it wasn’t time gated.

Time gating is old school MMO design which should be abolished back to the dark ages of MMOs. Unfortunately ArenaNet isn’t as “progressive” as they wanted us to believe and are more than willing to compromise on good game design to promote daily log in metrics.

They tried making a fun game at release and guess what A lot of people on this forum whine continously about how there is no goal or something to “work” on. Arenanet thought making a big world and putting content will get players to keep playing that didn’t work, so they are wisely using the true and tested methods that MMO players seem to enjoy.

Finally, you are making the extremely flawed comparison. You cannot compare an MMO to mario brothers or any single player game. An MMO can only function with players and it has a prepertual team working on it and generally cost more than a single player. Mario on the other hand once Shigeru is done working on a mario they print it and move on to a new project. Once Nintendo sold their copy it really doesn’t matter if anybody plays it or not they got their money, MMORPG are not that lucky.

Anyways, I see a lot of complaining I don’t see anybody coming up with solutions especially the OP that loves to whine, but seems averse to coming up with recommendations. It is the job of the developers to attempt to get players to play their games, you the player have the option of simply walking away and not playing ball.

Evon Skyfyre.9673:

Dog.1472:

The problem is that you are purposely gimping yourself, choosing to be weaker in order to get better rewards.

Then why did Anet make so many Magic Find components? Armor, Weapons, Runes, food, etc.. etc.. Don’t blame the players for using what Anet supplied. If Magic Find was so bad for the game, why was it ever added? Welcome to live Alpha testing I guess.

The main result from this NERF, is now more players will leave. Say what you want, scoff at them etc.. They will leave and the player base will get weaker. Don’t confuse traffic with success. You can have a Freemium game that is jammed with players and it fails financially.

The why is a pointless discussion to have since by removing or changing the way MF works.

AS with everything some are going to be happy and others are not going to be.

SSalp.6423:

silvermember.8941:

SSalp.6423:

Time gated gear? really? kitten you Anet!
Bout time wild star comes out…

And be stuck with a real gear treadmil?

TBH i prefer gear treadmills to time gated content. And I don’t understand the hate on gear treadmills. They’re a nice past-time and you can set new goals.
Also the new ascended items will be treadmill AND time gated.
Time gated content is the worst content. ever.

So you prefer having a real treadmil where you have to replace your gear in other to complete content THAN time gated gear for gear that isn’t mandatory?

If you like endless gear progression combine with PvP gear (pvp stats), PvE gear and grinding faction point is fun. Mandatory gear in other to progress is fun, then I hope you enjoy the game.

Then wildstar is the game for you.

SSalp.6423:

Time gated gear? really? kitten you Anet!
Bout time wild star comes out…

And be stuck with a real gear treadmil?

Atlas.9704:

I just better not lose my achievement tiers for all that crafting I did.
I’m only 50 points away from the 5K chest!

Other than that this looked interesting. I’m not going to be hopping around giddy until I see something more like patch notes for things.

By the time they implement it you would have already gotten the chest, unless it was sarcasm I what you said doesn’t make sense.

Ashanor.5319:

Vol.5241:

Surbrus.6942:

If they come out with more Ascended gear they’re going to be losing a bunch of loyal customers. A whole lot of people like GW2 because it was advertised as not having a gear treadmill. There was already a sizeable backlash when they introduced Ascended jewellery, and I think I saw somewhere that they said they had reconsidered and don’t plan on adding any more gear treadmill.

lol no, they said Ascended gear would come out eventually. They never backtracked on that.

The people who have complained about ascended gear have thinned out.

No, they have just quieted down because they figured Anet changed their mind after all the angry players.

-Crafting increased to 500 and ascended gear can be crafted at 500. However, it will be time-gated

Ah, well as long as the “time gating” isn’t that harsh, and the mats aren’t like mini legendary weapons, I would be alright with this approach.

I don’t think so. Arenanet has never given any indication that they backed down they actually have been increasing the ways to get ascended stuff.

Unfortunately, based on the fact that arenanet is going full speed into ascended armor they figured all those people that were against ascended gear either moved on or went to a non existent mmorpg that isn’t gear dependent.

Ashanor.5319:

silvermember.8941:

Surbrus.6942:

If they come out with more Ascended gear they’re going to be losing a bunch of loyal customers. A whole lot of people like GW2 because it was advertised as not having a gear treadmill. There was already a sizeable backlash when they introduced Ascended jewellery, and I think I saw somewhere that they said they had reconsidered and don’t plan on adding any more gear treadmill.

The so called “loyal” customers most of them already left at the onset of Ascended gear, so at this stage, I don’t think it matters to Arenanet.

The people that are staying well most of them probably want more gear and “progression” even so this progression isn’t nearly as close as other games have.

Actually, no. I am one of those players and I didn’t leave yet. I don’t like the gear treadmill but figure it hasn’t reached the point of no return… yet.

I don’t remember saying all of them I said a majority of them. Big difference.

The point being if they thought it was going to cost them more for including ascended gear than they will benefit from it they would have simply not implement it.

Anyways, the point being that the majority of the players whining about ascended gear already moved on and or that Arenanet has decided that they are not worth their efforts.

Clearly their design principles have changed from guild wars 1 to reflect a much bigger game and simply holding out hope for a non existent crowd is bad business.

Surbrus.6942:

If they come out with more Ascended gear they’re going to be losing a bunch of loyal customers. A whole lot of people like GW2 because it was advertised as not having a gear treadmill. There was already a sizeable backlash when they introduced Ascended jewellery, and I think I saw somewhere that they said they had reconsidered and don’t plan on adding any more gear treadmill.

The so called “loyal” customers most of them already left at the onset of Ascended gear, so at this stage, I don’t think it matters to Arenanet.

The people that are staying well most of them probably want more gear and “progression” even so this progression isn’t nearly as close as other games have.

Another way you can look at the interview, which unfortunately a lot are not, is that they have multiple teams creating content, and based on the interview the living story team is just a small part of the big teams, the point being that the living story team could the living story as a vehicle to drive new maps.

Honestly, though I do thing they will release new expansions. Expansion is a way to reset the game somewhat and bring back players and it is an ez way to make money while still support living story. Actually, it would be nice if the living story were used to replace dynamic events making it longer or zone wide.

There is nothing ever legendary about legandaries in any game EVER. Eventually, every noob follows a guide and get it because if it is too difficult those noobs will whine until it is ez or threaten to quit the game.

If you get upset about whales spending money on cosmetic items, you will not like gw2.

If you hate when a game adds new content every 2 weeks, you will hate guild wars 2.

If you hate using in game gold to get cash shop items, you will hate guild wars 2.

If you hate playing a game simply for fun, but as a job you will hate guild wars 2.

If you hate people not having to rely on you to complete content you will hate guild wars 2.

If you hate not paying for a sub because you believe paying for a monthly sub is better for some arbitrary reason YOU will hate gw2.

If you like whining on the forums constantly for no apparent reason, you will like guild wars 2.

Decrypter.1785:

I know a good Game mode , uninstall n wait for ESO

Then inevitably uninstall ESO and waits for another promising MMO thereby restarting the cycle.

Jesiah.2457:

I have a new game mode that I’m trying out today.

Uninstall the game as fast as you can and move onto something that actually has some form of an engaging experience rather than “lol bursted down from full in two seconds because I had no stunbreak”.

So much joy in being “outplayed” 100% to 0% while you are completely out of control of your character for such a short duration. I can’t stand this garbage any longer.

Arenanet’s definition of “skill based” baffles me to the highest degree. And thus, I am done with this worthless trash of quite literally, a side project.

It seems you are angry at the game for because you use a crappy build and got your butt kicked.

Let me play a song for you on the world’s smallest violin.

What reason is there for making the elementalist have the lowest HP, lowest Armor and lowest damage?

What purpose to the elementalist serve in the game? right most classes are better than them in everything while having advantages listed above, how is that fair.

it takes 5 action more on average to achieve the same results as other classes, is that fair?

Do you still have only 4 skill designers?

Is dragon tooth and water scepter skills ever going to be fixed?

And why is scooby doo always having the munchies?

Actually, I was hoping Arenanet would expand on them and actually make a staff that reflects what attunement you were in.

It seems a lot of players love using the world trinity without any understanding what it truly means. So they keep spewing crap.

Guild wars 2 never got rid of the trinity nor did it claim it did, it redefined it and redistributed it to the 8 professions in varying amounts. Before the trinity was tank, heal and dps. Guild wars 2 replaced it with control, support and damage (dps part did not change). Unlike WOW, every class has varying amounts of support, damage and control. Some classes like guardian/elementalist are better at support, some are better at control and so on.

In WoW, you always needed a tank and support and dps. In guild wars 2 since every class has some aspect of the three you can thereotically complete content with any class. Obviously in reality, players don’t do that because players love the path of least resistance.

The point being guild wars 2 never once claimed it did not have a trinity, it even said so in one its design document. The difference is all classes have some aspect of the trinity and NOT only a single class like in WOW.

Here is the link if you actually care to read it (I doubt) http://gw2101.gtm.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/combat/healing-death/

Let’s put it this way, unlike other mmorpg that have been released over the past 3 years, Arenanet has not downsized. Not only that, but they have actually been growing over the past year. Finally, they even had enough to start forming 4 teams to make living story content.

Ultimately, Arenanet is making money for Ncsoft since it represents a big chunk of its profit.

@Dhar
The people that play MMO are not necessary the same group that are loving for jobs. Finally, if you haven’t notice by now, but have you ever consider why games don’t get released in the summer? btw US=/=world.

lordkrall.7241:

Fernling.1729:

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After nearly 1.5 years I honestly don’t understand why you keep bothering with him. He was already whining (not the same as complaining) before the game’s release date was announce.

Jabberwock.9014:

Where do they put the streams up?

http://www.twitch.tv/guildwars2/c/2491717

Jabberwock.9014:

Wow, if this is true I’m becoming more and more tempted to just uninstall this game and be done with it. Wasted a legend and 100g of dyes on my ele, and for what? A class that will never have a role, has terrible dps despite having the worst hp and armor and a FULL MELEE weaponset, and can be beaten by any class but a necro in a footrace. Brilliant.

Note I was just inferring based on what Raif said I think they will put up the stream later for you to make your own decision.

Here is a breakdown.
ELementalist.
Lowest hp, lowest armor and lowest dps and comes with few active defense on long CD.
Take 10 skills to kill something that others can do in 5 and for thieve in 3. except necro and new ranger.
switch to water to heal.
Great at zerg v zerg with staff and tornado and just watch the bags drop.

Thief.
High damage.
Lot of evade in skills
can spam skills.
Requires no thinking that even a cave man can play it.
Devs seem to love it.
Stealth.
great at trolling and ganking.

Sucks at ZvZ combat, tpvp etc.

Jabberwock.9014:

Can anybody give a summary of his stream? In particular, did he say anything about our low health pool, and what specifically did he say about us being “jack of all trades, master of none”?

Just read what Raif.9507 I think he summed it up well.

@Raif.9507

Amen brother. I did not watch the stream but from your comments they seem to be justifying their horrible class decisions.

LightningBlaze.4913:

silvermember.8941:

If only 1% of players use a weapon, dont you think that they might be a problem with that weapon?

Not at all, it only means the other 99% of eles don’t know how to play with it as great as that single 1% of eles do. Orignally, it was the same case for s/d way before it was even mentioned as a burst build wep set. Most eles used to run d/d bunker/healer build(still are) and I was one of the few eles busting down those same type of eles with the so believed “unreliable” s/d wep set.

But here is the thing the S/d relied entirely on one attunement b4buff. The fire and water line were/are horrible. The only decent thing was the lightening attunement. The focus feels like a very situational set. Except in PvE dungeons, any other scenario that involves the focus puts you at a disadvantage in a S/F set. Most of the advantages of it come with long CD with the disadvantage of losing a lot of damage potential, which unfortunately the game still favors.

Kolisch.4691:

Doesn’t fit ANET’s no-grind philosophy at all. Pretty sure it will be normaled into something like becoming a buff that lasts 2 minutes in a future patch.

Arenanet never had a no grind policy. They do have a no block progression via grind but it doesn’t neccessarily mean they don’t have a grind policy. You can look at guild wars 1 nightfall for what I mean.

GonzoNeo.4965:

lordkrall.7241:

GonzoNeo.4965:

Ok for housing and guild house.

No for raids, they are taking away the things that made GW1 a great game and use many WoW things.

After kill many small guilds with Guild Missions they are planning kill more with raids ?

I suppose you never played Factions then?

They had “raids” there as well, in the only two end-game things in that campaign.

I have 7000 hours in GW1, yeah i play factions, Urgoth and Kanaxai was not raids, only because you need 12 players and other dungeons need 8 dont mean that is a raid, is 10 players de difference between a raid and a dungeon ?.

If you play WoW raids, the princippal difference with a instance is that generally Raids are long dungeons with a time limit reset( a week in WoW vanilla if i dont remember bad ) and a save feature after each boss to continue the next day, and you need comple it before the reset and if you are not the member of the raid you are screwed if you want to play.

The principle issue here is that you seem to have a different definition of raids than the people you are arguing against. They believe a large group of people doing something in a group is a raid which is the basic definition of a raid.

There is no definition that a raid has to be similar to WOW to be called a raid.

Other than that having raid like in WoW that includes progression would blow. I mean really blow, because eventually all the raiders are still going to whine how there is no progression involve and more will be added.

If only 1% of players use a weapon, dont you think that they might be a problem with that weapon?

Remember guild wars 2 is a global game, this isn’t the United states where the 99% doesn’t matter.

Why are aura so weak, they meant to be one of the active defenses we supposedly have to make up for our low dps, hp and armor, and they are all on extremely high CD and they are weak.

All our active defense skills all seem to be bad as the result their extremely high CD.

Moving on, most of our dps skills are on an extremely high CD for no apparent reason, while other classes like thieves can spam and output our damage without any thinking involved? Why is it that it takes on 5 moves to achieve something that takes a thieve 2 movies?

In every other class, close combat weapons are suppose to out put a high amount of damage to make up for the risk. However, for the elementalist that doesn’t ring true. We get low damage daggers, most of the high damage is on a 30+ second CD, combine with our low dps, hp and armor and have very few built in damage mitigation tools while again the thieves get few evades, the mesmer can distort while having a much higher amount of dps, armor and hp. Why is that?

To summed it up, it seems after bwe 1, you guys panic and made some changes to the elementalist and yet did not compensate us for those changes. why?

Also what is being done to fix the focus, scepter (dragon tooth and water attunement skills) and what abotu our traits?

Ryth.6518:

I think they really need to ‘re-launch’ the game with a new redesign of classes, dungeons and other mechanics.

It makes no sense whatsoever for them to do that. And really it isn’t grounded in reality either, nobody would like losing progress. Just look at what happen wtih they rolled by 7 hours in Neverwinter nights, now imagine they do the same after 10 months.

I know reality bites.

Risk vs Reward is something no MMO has ever been able to solve. Other MMO hide behind it by putting lockdown timers and RNG, Arenanet developer stupidly thought simply making a game “fun” and not focus on loot with make players happy and that certainly did not work.

Guild wars 2 current implementation in my IMO doesn’t allow for a lot of reward or good reward because give people what they want and they stop doing the content then they start complaining how there is little content to do. I remember this on the first week back in orr, people whining after speed running orr for hours got their full set and start complaining.

To me guild wars 2 will never have any good rewards until Arenanet mans up and do what other MMOs have done and put rewards behind instances and slap a long cool down timer like other games have done or they could simply leave the current system, either ways someone will complain it is the nature of the genre. Without complaints official forums would be dead.

Calae.1738:

DeWolfe.2174:

First, there is no risk in the game. The value being used up is our time. In that time, it’s how we feel about our experience that’s important. Obviously, we want to feel good about it. Earning a shiny at the end doesn’t replace an annoying or agitating experience. That is the biggest problem I see, the agitation. Because the only way the developers appear to be making things take longer, is to make them more annoying.

They need to stop all the thoughts of difficulty and make it fun. As soon as a Dev begins to think of “Risk v Reward” they need to slap themselves. Then start thinking about the experience. Because a good experience becomes the reward.

Can you explain what a good experience is? I’m sure the developers believe what they’re creating is a good experience. The problem with your argument is that it’s too subjective.

Can you entertain a grown adult with Saturday morning cartoons? If you can then why aren’t they targeted to adults? In trying to target all age groups you only end up pleasing the youngest most ignorant market. Which is what GW2 is going for with their abusive lottery system.

You really can’t call guild wars 2 system abusive, because you don’t have to deal with it. It is like sticking your hand in a hot pot of water and whining why you got burnt. The loot is fine simply because it is not mandatory for whatever passes as progression in the genre.

Ayrilana.1396:

I never really look at what armor people wear. I never got into the whole “dress up Barbie” aspect of the game.

Probably because there isn’t really one. It was suppose to be, but 5 races took old yellow and shot it.

gaspara.4079:

silvermember.8941:

Erasculio.2914:

HiddenNick.7206:

So what is the focus in this game?! I’m trying to find this game goal and as far as I know there is none!

The goal is the same goal as in any other good game: to have fun.

People are too used to mediocre games (aka MMORPGs) these days.

I totally agree, I might like guild wars 2 but it doesnt change the fact that as a video game it sucks. it might be one of the best mmorpgs I haved, but it is still a horrible video game. Guild wars 2 is like the smartest guy in a class for kittens. It doesn’t matter you are still kittened.

Perhaps your personality and preferences are just not suited for the MMO genre. Its just like movies and books. If you don’t enjoy reading science fiction, well maybe you shouldn’t be surprised when you dislike the next science fiction book you read.

Every single person enjoys games for their own reasons and if enough of your reasons aren’t supported in a game you less likely to enjoy it.

Actually, you are right that my preference might are longer supported by the genre.

Or maybe the genre is so used to mediocre systems. I mean, you never see someone ask why they should continue playing skyrim, it is only an MMO where you can get away with this silly question and it is because turn video game into a job, it is no longer about fun, but work. Only in this genre where fun is no long a reason to play an MMO.

BTW I do have fun doing WvW, it still doesnt change my criticism of the genre well the PvE portions anyways.

One of my beef with this game is it has too many races and so armor selection got sacrificed to the Kormir so that Trahearne can live another day.

But I do what I do with the armor I have.

Aether McLoud.1975:

silvermember.8941:

Aether McLoud.1975:

If you want a frost mage, try a mesmer. Ele in this game is nothing like mages in other games, sad but true.

Don’t listen to this Aether, he loves to hear himself whine.

It’s a fact. If you think ele in this game is anything like mages in other games you’re delusional.

I never said they were anything like other games, in most MMORPG I usually play mage classes. runes of magic mage/priest, aion sorcerer, spirit. Which is actually a nice change of pace for me anyways. Ofc, I don’t see how your comment had anything to do with the OP’s question before I mocked you.

Anyways, my comment was more or less a shot at you, since every thing you seem to say involves so form of whining.

Erasculio.2914:

HiddenNick.7206:

So what is the focus in this game?! I’m trying to find this game goal and as far as I know there is none!

The goal is the same goal as in any other good game: to have fun.

People are too used to mediocre games (aka MMORPGs) these days.

I totally agree, I might like guild wars 2 but it doesnt change the fact that as a video game it sucks. it might be one of the best mmorpgs I haved, but it is still a horrible video game. Guild wars 2 is like the smartest guy in a class for kittens. It doesn’t matter you are still kittened.

Aether McLoud.1975:

If you want a frost mage, try a mesmer. Ele in this game is nothing like mages in other games, sad but true.

Don’t listen to this Aether, he loves to hear himself whine.

The devs did a fine thing for us (elementalist). Not everybody would agree, but as someone how despised the d/d bunker, I am happy somewhat.

SoggyFrog.4170:

silvermember.8941:

A lot of players spent months whining about WvW progression, then they finally got it and now they are complaining that there is progression in WvW. Amazing.

It just goes to show you, being an MMO developer sucks, nobody knows what players want.

False. While there were some people calling for progression for months, many insisted against_stat_ progression. So when they first introduced WXP abilities, there was no kind of stat progression and you were happy if you used siege a lot and indifferent otherwise.

Then they started sneaking in these stat buffing abilities with no notice or justification. There will be people who love them but I believe it goes very much against the no grind philosophy.

Just because you don’t agree with what I say doesn’t make it false, you simply don’t agree. In this context the proper term is “Disagree” not false.

Anyways, people did want progression in WvW that is fact. Anyways, it is not even grind, you don’t NEED it to do well in WvW, you might WANT it, but you don’t NEED it. Grind is doing something you hate doing to progress. I guess in that context if you hate WvW then progression would be a grind which really makes it moot, imo.

Back to my point people wanted a way to progress IN WvW. Personally, I don’t really care one way or the other, but I do know that this is what some players wanted for months, it might not be what you wanted but that is the nature of the beast. One of the thigns I was thought to do is when I complain about something I offer suggestions maybe you should as well.

mrochon.8765:

Haven’t played in a while and wondering if ANet actually made WvW worth playing, i.e. WvW point progression and not the garbage they first introduced?

If you need a reason other than fun to play WvW you will probably never be happy about WvW. So you best wait for Eso, i hear ESO is going to be revolutionary in every aspect.

A lot of players spent months whining about WvW progression, then they finally got it and now they are complaining that there is progression in WvW. Amazing.

It just goes to show you, being an MMO developer sucks, nobody knows what players want.

Hoyvin.3241:

silvermember.8941:

In the future, If I was you, I wouldn’t spend money on something that isn’t 100% guaranteered. Supposedly, there is a 1.8% chance of getting those tickets from the cash shop coffers, just think about it.

Isn’t that what I just said? Twice? I’m not supporting this money making vehicle again. Hopefully my posting this will convince people who don’t already think this is a bad idea.

I know you did, I just wanted to emphasis it more, it gives me the giggles.
But alas your point is moot, because even for the best forums only 5% of the players even visit the forums.

I got 2 by simply playing the game and I think that is the moral of the story.

Einlanzer.1627:

Rangers are being hysterical and reactionary. The changes are in the right direction. Longbow buffs with more clearly defined roles for each bow type. Shortbow will still be very playable. Pet nerfs aren’t a big deal because pets have always represented too much of a ranger’s power.

The problem is that rangers have kittenty dps and the thing that represents their dps got nerfed. If they had passed on the dps to the ranger, it would have made sense. As for the shortbow, I actually like the fact that the shortbow is now actually a shortbow and not a better longbow. But they should have buffed up the longbow speed and dps to reflect that.

But I don’t activily play a long bow/shortbow so it doesn’t affect me at all.

I want to personally thank players like you for continuing the fund this game through extremely intelligent purchases. It is for your continued support that we can have more content.

In the future, If I was you, I wouldn’t spend money on something that isn’t 100% guaranteered. Supposedly, there is a 1.8% chance of getting those tickets from the cash shop coffers, just think about it.

I am too broke and cheap to test it out for WvW but can someone test it out for WvW, so i can copy and turn it into my own?

i want a roaming build and your point distribution is similar to my current s/d and staff (when in zerg V zerg fight).

Tumult.2578:

Played this game to play Ranger. With these changes, that is pointless.
I’m gone and so is my money!

I feel like generally the people that say that NEVER actually spend any more whatsoever on the game.

Luckily for me, I was smart enough to have 5 different classes. too bad one of them is a charr, but that is cool as well.