Guild Wars 2

Score update for those at work, whilst chilling outside the new entrance to Southsun Cove… after tossing some crabs!

This pretty much confirmed my suspicions. Thanks for the info.

Ljiona.9142:

Way to early to be claiming a victory. Tuesday – Thursday are the slow days for SoR.

Nope, SOR has this in the bag.

LetoII.3782:

I.E. JQ better have that great community back on track.
Cuz you guys ain’t recruiting squat.

Its still possible to get guilds into a server with full status.

Jahn.7019:

Raven Paradox.1860:

+120 PPT on NA primetime?

R.I.P Bags Galore.

Nah, this week is not a good indicator of coverage.

I think SoR is doing some overplaying.

Also, according to some friends, except for SoR BL, all the other BLs are queued for BG and JQ.

Plus, SoR ticking this high during NA prime is nothing new. It’s business as usual.

Your friends are wrong.

Aurust.8961:

Warlord.9074:

Orion.9075:

scootshoot.6583:

hplee.2839:

score update, end of SEA (taipei time 1:44 am)

SoR pretty much neutralize JQ’s SEA advantage.

Least for one day. Still early in the week.

What every server benefits from (assuming the score favors them) is the usual PVE players which there are a ton more of will join the fray thereby helping with coverage. SOR am sure has quite a bit of pve people who typically don’t wvw being active participants this week and that is a good thing.

Don’t get why SoR has more PVE players participating this week than any other server… that makes no sense.

I don’t think he means it that way. He means to say SoR has a very casual WvW pop. I don’t know how it is on other servers. These are not exclusively PVE players. They are players that do both PVE and PVP, and when there are events going on you wont find them in WvW they rater run event dungeons all day long, or do other PVE kinda stuff. Then they go into WvW. Right now with no Event dungeon or quests to do these people come into wvw.

I’m sure that is the case on other servers to a lesser degree than SoR cuz like i said there’s a very casual wvw atmosphere on the server.

Except SOR probably has more hardcore pure wvw guilds out of all the servers in tier 1.

Id disagree. I think BG has the most.

VOLKON.1290:

Aarean.5398:

Hope some guilds after a real challenge go to jq and keep the server going. Would be quite difficult fighting the numbers currently running in t1.

For some reason (casts a conspiratorial glare at ANet) JQ is locked in a “FULL” state now, even with the transfers we’ve had off. Used to be there were times of the day it would fall to “Very High”, but something changed.

(BG is also apparently “FULL” locked, but they’ve had an influx compared to JQ having had some players leave.)

It would be horrible if things were being tweaked behind the scenes like that. ANet did say they were working on ways to shake things up, so I just may need my first roll of tin-foil.

I am willing to put up my left testicle that either the server status is broken, it has no relation to WvW player population or there is tampering going on. And just to point out, my leftie is my bestie. Its the baby maker for sure.

Zen.8497:

Israel.7056:

Zen.8497:

I have already tried thief and shortly found it no challenge… please try other classes and post some videos.
I just remembered the saying you’re only young once, but you can be immature forever.

And yet most thieves can’t come close to Yishis.

People in wvw die to thieves because EVERY thief is built for dueling and 1v1 while 80% of the wvwvw people are built for group fights… Also there already are alot of threads about how broken the class is in wvw as opposed to spvp.

Thief is the easiest class to solo play in wvw if you are skilled and like challenge play a different class and do the same. Until then it’s all the same to me.

Pretty much. Its kind of limiting. Tonight I was escorting yaks because it was needed at the time, but I was logged on my warrior which is built for frontline zerg so I had to CC the heck out of him and he got the yak and I bailed because I am not built to play that way on that char. If I was on my guardian or some of my other chars that I can duel with I wouldn’t have had that problem, but all I could do was try to get him to focus me instead of the yak which didn’t work.

BakaOniiChan.9564:

sostronk.8167:

Sharpoon.8197:

Just curious, how large is JQ, BG and SoR’s SEA crew in terms of how many guilds and the numbers they bring etc?

Hard to say. I have been playing during Oceanic, SEA and Euro timezones lately. JQ probably has the least number of players during sea. SOR seems to have the biggest and BG right behind them. But its hard to say, seems SOR tend to stack everyone into one map attack and then switch maps so its hard to get a guage on how many there actually are. To give an example of this, we hit Bay tonight as they had outmanned buff. 1 minute later we have 100 players charging in to defend. We bail and a few minutes later they have outmanned buff again. JQ players tend to get into one map and stay there for their entire game time. BG seem to spend a few hours in one map and then move along. BG also seem to have some Oceanics that are playing during sea timezone as well. Thats what I am seeing atm anyways.

PRO TIP: You gain PPT by defending all of your keeps and taking others.

Actually, thats not pro, just common knowledge.

DeadlySynz.3471:

Your lucky.. sometimes my “1” skill doesn’t even work under skill lag.

Ive noticed some classes are worse than others.

Sharpoon.8197:

Just curious, how large is JQ, BG and SoR’s SEA crew in terms of how many guilds and the numbers they bring etc?

Hard to say. I have been playing during Oceanic, SEA and Euro timezones lately. JQ probably has the least number of players during sea. SOR seems to have the biggest and BG right behind them. But its hard to say, seems SOR tend to stack everyone into one map attack and then switch maps so its hard to get a guage on how many there actually are. To give an example of this, we hit Bay tonight as they had outmanned buff. 1 minute later we have 100 players charging in to defend. We bail and a few minutes later they have outmanned buff again. JQ players tend to get into one map and stay there for their entire game time. BG seem to spend a few hours in one map and then move along. BG also seem to have some Oceanics that are playing during sea timezone as well. Thats what I am seeing atm anyways.

covenn.7165:

Cyril.1486:

Thread made by a Vizunah Square player ? Run in smaller numbers thats it. No need to run 80 – 100 wherever you go.

Skill lag is caused by the server. It doesn’t matter if you run 5 or 100.

It has effected me running a 5 man more times than I can count.

Skill lag makes yak escorting hard. When it starts the Yak just stands still. Then it turns out the Yak is actually somewhere else but you cannot see where it is and you cannot cast swiftness from warhorns or shouts or any other means. Generally I can tell if there is a big fight happening like a server fighting it out over SM just from watching the Yak. So yeah, it even effects you if your on your own and there is no one in the quarter of the map you are on. The servers cannot handle the numbers they see. Either they need to upgrade the servers or reduce the player maximum cap for a map/server or they need to do some serious work on their code. Id be all for a reduction in map cap because super mega zerging is uncool.

Luiz Swordbreaker.6547:

Slamz.5376:

I don’t see why anyone wants to change arrowcarts.

I’m actually enjoying having to THINK again. Now we have to do sneaky things like distract in one area and speedbuild in another to counter defensive arrow carts. And zergballing doors almost never works anymore — even one guy on an arrow cart is a threat now.

Arrow cart nerfs will just be a return to zergballing. “We hate zergballs, fix it, ANet! Wait! Now we can’t zergball! We want zergballs back!”

ANet just needs to pick a side to support. Are they pro-zergball or pro-strategy?

Can’t be both.

Agreed, I have no problem with arrow carts damage to players, since any group with half a brain can heal up whoever is using the rams/ rotate players, etc.

But unreachable ACs making catas/rams melt really isn’t right IMO, and I hope that’s what they change.

Pretty sure they are changing that. Devon made reference to it in a post in another thread. Its also an issue with wiping other sieges too quickly as well. I like the idea with rams to be able to micro manage and work with a team to drop healing fields and to force the tankier players to man the rams, but when this happens the ram gets destroyed too quickly if there are a fair few AC there.

Yshyr.8709:

covenn.7165:

Aarean.5398:

Why are guilds leaving or in rumor of leaving jq. Theres not balance issue anymore. Jq is the weakest of t1 and any guild leaving it is just avoiding losing. Anyone else not seeing the score trend?

Score trend or not, it is just a phase. Before moving to SoR last year, I was on JQ initially…. and I know for a fact that the server is solid. They will be back kicking on teeth in no time.

True. However this is where Glicko is killing servers. WvW populations are never static. All servers go through up ticks and down ticks. Glicko is far to slow to respond to those needs. JQ could use a week or two in t2 to regroup and reinvigorate. A couple of weeks ago it was SOR that could have used a t2 vacation. A month ago BG was on the ropes and could have used a break. At the same time servers like DB and Kaineng should get shots at t1 when they are riding a wave of success and not be forced to atrophy in a tier they are too strong for.

The other problem is exemplified by the success of SF after getting out of t8 jumped up to t6 with some impressive wins. Meaning they were ranked behind servers they were stronger than. Last week Viz Square was all but declared unbeatable, and this week they are losing to Elona. It’s been so long since we played anyone but each other that for all we know DB could wipe the floor with all of us.

By “reinvigorate”, I can’t help but feel your saying stomp Tier 2 to get a big morale boost. I think glicko stops servers from doing this and Im glad it does.

With a hammer warrior I can pretty much ignore AC unless there are more than 3 hitting me at once. If I am manning a ram and have a team dropping healing fields I can ignore them unless there are 5 or more hitting me at once. I know some classes you have to avoid them, but depending on your build alot of class builds can completely ignore AC. If anything, Id expect another buff along with the damage nerf from AC to other siege types (which they have already said they will be doing). In the end what I think Anet is aiming for is for roles to be filled.

urek mazino.4026:

pot.6805:

Saw JQs omen on SoR, did they officially move?

I think thats a different Omen, cant confirm tho, need to see them again

Haven’t heard anything about this, but the omen I know of is still playing for JQ in WvW.

Vayne.8563:

Kaiem.8297:

Translated out of corporate speak that reads “we plan to do an expansion pack at some point but currently haven’t started but you’ll give me kitten if I say that so ill just tell you we have started and give a load of vague reasons for not having a scheduled release”.

Not quite sure this is true. In fact, I’m pretty sure they have done some work on an expansion. But expansions in MMOs are used for business reasons. One of those reasons is to retrigger interest in the game when it starts to wane. Another is to put out something when a competitor is trying to get interest in the game.

Take the launch of the game in the first place. It clearly wasn’t ready. There were too many bugs. Even the trading post didn’t work at launch. But it was launched strategically to be out a month before MoP came out. That was good timing on Anet’s part. They made a lot of sales they might not have made if they’d launched six weeks later.

These days, a paid expansion is a big deal to an MMO, and the timing of the release to maximize profits is something every MMO does.

Im fairly certain your right. They most definitely have done some work on an expansion. Kind of like they have done some work on a precursor scavenger hunt.

Frudoo, what is your expert analysis for this week? Hows it going to play out? Will BG come out on top again? Is SOR going to take the IRON throne? Will JQ recover and come back?

Cottage Pie.6215:

How are you living for 5 seconds, never mind a minute vs a 50 player zerg.

CC, dodge, CD removal, evading, healing, gap openers, resetting, praying. If your a class like Warrior/Guardian/Ele you can last a really long time. Also some of the circles have obstacles you can use to break them up (like Rogues Quarry and Redvale).

There are plenty of cases where an individual matters alot. To give an example and there are many of them, when a player stays inside the circle to delay a cap for long enough to delay the cap until reinforcements arrive. I personally do this all the time. In fact I will not leave the circle under any circumstance other than death. And it pays off on a daily basis. It seems the majority of players run in this situation, particularly if they are faced with a full on zerg. I say bring it. I survive as long as I can and waste their time. Even if faced with a 50 player zerg, if I live for 1 minute and they still flip it Ive wasted 1 minute of my time, but 50 minutes of my opponents time.

kingcragus.6810:

Aveneo.2068:

Auto attack will not follow through Stealth. You may have been shot by an arrow that was already in the air before you used Stealth.

Rapid Fire will track you in Stealth if the Ranger activated the ability before you went into Stealth.

Cool thanks for that. Was not aware that skills would finish once started…explains a lot and yeh it must have been rapid fire…that’s the ranger long bow #2?

:D

Yeah longbow skill 2. I used to run longbow on ranger, but switched. When I did run longbow it was pretty much free thief kills.

There is a pretty massive skill gap in WvW. And as above, this is not about hacks. The good players are just rolling large groups.

Jormag was pretty well designed, but tbh I think its pretty boring compared to fighting some of the bosses in Orr. I quite like Arah, Grenth and Melandru. I really think Anet is limited with what they can do with dragons and what we end up seeing is everyone spraying damage for a quick chest and ignoring the mechanics. Subject Alpha I really liked and it certainly gave me some faith that Anet is playing around with combat mechanics in boss fights. Oh and I really like the Molten Forge Bosses too, possibly one of my favorite.

Probably the one I dislike most is the delay you get when walking through a door. You can sometimes get killed before the server lets you in.

LetoII.3782:

Is mothers day global?
I know international workers day (may 1st) gave us american wage slaves a buff.

Not sure was wondering the same thing for different reasons. I know its mothers day in Australia right now.

When are we supposed to do this? Im getting flashbacks from Southsun Cove were I played like 30+ hours but because the event ended on a Monday morning whilst I was at work I did not receive the end chest or any reward via mail whilst everyone else was getting precursor drops like they were going out of fashion. Pretty sure there is no reward with this one, but Id still like to be there to get the last acheivement I need for the full set for Flame and Frost event.

INB4 someone from SOR posts screenshots of how to do it.

I have 8 80s and honestly its hard to say. I like to revisit each and main one for a while and then move on to another. Each has very different play styles so it breaks up the monotony of doing the same roles all the time by switching. Right now though, Im maining a hammer warrior and Im really loving them.

Id be interested to know what Anet’s formula for this is, it seems bugged to me.

Brisingr.6127:

The thing i hate the MOST: is when JQ is complaining that they are getting double teamed, and poor them. When BlackGate was consistantly double-teamed for weeks on end and we stayed in T1. =) jade Quarry, what happened? Legit, it seriously looks like you have been broken and will go down to T2 unless you step up your game.

que sera sera. If someone goes down to tier 2, thats fine. It will probably get old fighting the same two opponents all the time anyways. If its JQ or SOR or BG then so be it. Its still going to be a long time off before anyone leaves Tier 1 going by the current ratings in tier 1 and tier 2 servers.

CureForLiving.5360:

SilvSonic.2691:

I scroll the profeesion forums

And that’s where you made your mistake. I use to go to the necro thread, back when necros were apparently not doing good… I have since not returned because honestly I find that I can enjoy GW2 a lot better without exposing myself to all of that complaining.

Pretty much lol. I don’t touch the class forum section for the same reason. Most people in there a clueless.

Helterskelter.8490:

I see quite a few good necros these days, whereas I used to consider it a “trashy” class. Keep in mind, there’s still plenty of bad ones, so there’s a small stepping stone of “learning” you need before you become good again.

But the class IS viable / not trash anymore (maybe never was, people just had to learn) so I recommend coming back.

It was never a trashy class. Just alot of bad players played them, as alot still do. At least thats what I have seen in WvW. sPvP is a completely different kettle of fish from WvW despite both being PvP.

I believe Warriors are considered weak in sPvP. In WvW on the other hand, I see a completely different story. Drop a couple of Hammer Warriors into an organized group and expect some pain. They are, IMO, the most powerful class in WvW right now from a small group to small zerg (guild) right now. Just people alot don’t play them alot. Its what I have picked up to main right now and Im completely blown away at how good they are. From a small group to a full on zerg a hammer warrior can completely decimate and run through your frontline and drop your backline better than a guardian can.

Zaowi.7098:

DKNS.2135:

Hey IRON, just in mutual respect for each other, can you please take your scout off BG WvW please until he transfers to SoR ??

My transfer Duration ends tomorrow night, I’ll stay out of wvw np, just had fun killing own guild members today =)

When I first transferred to JQ we were against SOS at the time and there was no transfer duration. I went into WvW and it actually felt a bit wierd so I gave it a week before I started playing because for some strange reason it didn’t feel right.

Voicer.8239:

Should I ask nicely to this person to NOT get our golems and jump out? Because c’mon, despair way to early dont u think?

Had the same thing in EB happen last night. Report it, remember Anet won’t do anything about it and move along. Not much can be done when Anet doesn’t care about this sort of stuff.

modDW.4187:

Athaulf.1530:

Yeah really and no i don´t wear Zerker. Don´t believe nerevrmind I took the screens.
Thief is op as hell and nothing else

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgAgqcgdZ5A

enjoy

lol nice video, I did enjoy :p

Malediktus.9250:

Its not a good idea to compare good low lvls against bad max lvls. You would have to compare about equally skilled players to get an idea.
Alternatively we could removed downed mode in WvW. It would fix a lot of issues upscaled players add to WvW.

It is a good idea to compare good low levels, because you will be excluding them from playing.

I run into some pretty low levels that are better than alot of 80s I run into. Sure it doesn’t help statistically, but I don’t think they should be excluded.

Kript.3291:

assasin of warr.9517:

hey guys we happy to be here

wanna thank sor,jq,bg for the warm welcomes. we had alrdy some awesome fights never had this much fun in months tyvm. and btw srry for the bg dudes that were on bg border before reset and we camped their north suply camp we just wanted to say hello. hope to see you guys on the battlefield for some revenge.

cosmic force

you guys made SoR looks like it’s on steroids… kitten impressive

So you still play Frudoo? You and I should team up for some solo roaming. Thing is Ive just been labelled a BG spy, so Im looking for some other outcasts to roll with lol.

Athaulf.1530:

As long as a thief can hit my full def guardian for 10 k in three strikes I don´t want to hear the words balanced an thiefes in the same sentence

I can combo kill a thief with my warrior with the entire combo duration having him in stun, whether hes in stealth or not at the start of the combo. So he breaks stun. No problem, reset your combo. Most thiefs only pack 1-2 stun breaks. Also if your having problems with fighting a thief with a guardian there is a problem at your end, either your build or your skill and knowledge of how to play a thief. I admit, its sometimes difficult to finish a thief with a guardian as being able to do it comes down to getting the timing right and thats not alway easy with server lag, but a thief should never kill a guardian otherwise the thief was just a better player.

AntiGw.9367:

And who is Vayne?

Vayne is a league of Legends character who uses stealth and generally fits into the DPS carry role. For me she has always been a risky pick. She either completely dominates or dies way too quick. I would recommend running Graves to counter her.

Reslinal.2359:

The thing is SoR is an opportunist player and only try to play for second (mainly due to their coverage shortage I assume). So when BG was blue and relatively weaker compare to JQ, SoR chose to double team us. Now JQ seems to be weaker compare to us. it seems SoR decide to double team JQ instead.

Probably quite a reasonable and logical assessment. My shortened version is SOR has no aggots.

kanderous.7512:

sostronk.8167:

kanderous.7512:

sostronk.8167:

Jahn.7019:

Why has JQ been so angry lately?

It’s just a game, you guys have been 1st for so long. You don’t always have to be #1.

Because of the constant 2v1. I was completely fine with it when we were on top and its completely fine to do it to make things even. Now SOR has taken about being a bunch of kittens. Might as well rename Sanctum of Rall to Blackgate 2.

So it’s okay to 2v1 ONLY if you do it?

Its ok to 2v1 in specific map circumstances were its beneficial. Its also ok to 2v1 the top server to keep things even. Its not ok to 2v1 the non top server for two weeks straight on all maps.

I do recall BG getting hit by 2v1 even when it wasn’t top. Hmm.

Were they hit for two weeks straight on all maps 24 hours a day by SOR and JQ? Do you recall this?

kanderous.7512:

sostronk.8167:

Jahn.7019:

Why has JQ been so angry lately?

It’s just a game, you guys have been 1st for so long. You don’t always have to be #1.

Because of the constant 2v1. I was completely fine with it when we were on top and its completely fine to do it to make things even. Now SOR has taken about being a bunch of kittens. Might as well rename Sanctum of Rall to Blackgate 2.

So it’s okay to 2v1 ONLY if you do it?

Its ok to 2v1 in specific map circumstances were its beneficial. Its also ok to 2v1 the top server to keep things even. Its not ok to 2v1 the non top server for two weeks straight on all maps.

Jahn.7019:

Why has JQ been so angry lately?

It’s just a game, you guys have been 1st for so long. You don’t always have to be #1.

Because of the constant 2v1. I was completely fine with it when we were on top and its completely fine to do it to make things even. Now SOR has taken about being a bunch of kittens. Might as well rename Sanctum of Rall to Blackgate 2.

Upgrade hamsters or lower pop cap Anet, pls!

Probably for the best. A real leader wouldn’t post this stuff in a public forum to cause more drama and nor would they give up their pin because of someone elses thoughts.

oxide.8324:

someone fill me in on the reasons for all the RISE hate

k go:

Because they make me run all the way from one end of the map to the other knowing Ill then I have to run all the way back picking up the bags.

Vayne.8563:

Lymangood.3679:

@Vayne
Wow, I didn’t see that response coming. And btw, not sure if you know this or not, but what you say is just your opinion. And for the record I was speaking for myself and responding to his post about people not supporting anet because they were too cheap and then his statement about who will ultimately lose from this lack of said support.

Oh I get that completely. I just love how people use words like horrible, instead of I don’t like it. Choice of language to make something seem worse than it is. As long as people want to do that, I can respond in kind.

Do you really LOVE when people use words like that?

I think Mordremoth is going to be a long way off tbh. Id be surprised if it comes before late this year. I know they have made references, but they will need more space. Im expecting more Maguuma and for him to be in there, but thats probably an expansion.