Guild Wars 2

Anet might be making changes in the future to balance. Throw in your two cents if you want!

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Collaborative-Development-World-Population

HolyMolla.6582:

Last time when BG had superior OCX/SEA coverage vs SOR, and BG was winning this timezone, SOR blamed their OCX/SEA coverage. I believe Indo told their SEA guilds to
stop playing.
Now it’s your turn IRON.
Welcome to SOR blame game.

I’m actually suspicious about SORs turnout. In previous weeks, like the one where they absolutely smashed us they had massive numbers during every timezone. Much more than what we are seeing now. We all know SOR tank scores on purpose alot more than most servers do so I am wondering if they are trying to convince another guild to come across that is reluctant to do so for coverage reasons.

We have noticed the same thing on BG. It appears the queue is broken and will you actually have less people on the map from time to time.

I will fight you behind the toilet blocks after school if you want?

Shifty.4985:

HolyMolla.6582:

SOR QQing about EU guild joining BG????
Okay, I seen enough.

SoR can barely cover a bl where as BG now can easily cover 2 if not 3 now..

It is past 6pm in NA east coast. If you cannot cover 4 maps then players are not turning up.

Shifty.4985:

Morphman.6312:

Burl.9567:

Maybe them coming over will attract more EU to the NA servers. I doubt it though.

I’ve got a weird feeling that they might attract more EU guilds to the top NA servers

Leaving EU servers with nothing and NA servers having 3hour queues, which means they will then go back to EU

You still have 3 hour queues during EU? Our queues are like 5 minutes tops. We didn’t even have 4 maps queued during SEA or EU today AFAIK as I joined up a few times taking regular breaks and was always able to join a map right away.

Nuked.2360:

Burl.9567:

Nobody really has the force to contend with ZDs during the time slot they play. Unfortunately for them, they will get bored rather quickly unless they start staying up really late to play with IRON/NA. Maybe them coming over will attract more EU to the NA servers. I doubt it though.

Based on what people have told me the only groups that can match ZDs time slot or come close to it are either German guilds or other russian guilds.

They play longer hours than most EU guilds from what I have seen. They start playing at early SEA timezone so I am sure JQ will be able to accommodate them with some tough fights.

Only reason we (BG) are winning right now is the hard work and huge overtime that our commanders and players have put in. SOR is a formidable opponent who could crush us on any given week. So we have a hard fight ahead of us for the next 2.5 weeks. I look forward to it.

Starscream.7803:

Seigfried.5938:

IRON pushing really kitten the forums. 4 pages in 5 hours :O

My recent posts have been nice and troll free. Prefer me to start trolling again?

Trolling aside. Are you able to confirm or deny that the major reason that SOR lost so much PPT last night was because many of IRON had homework to do? This is the rumor I have heard, so I was wondering if it was true or not is all.

zhonnika.1784:

Let me just say that there isn’t a universe I’d want to reside in if it had been JQ that had picked up ZD. Hell to the no. There would be enough crying to make people start pairing up and looking for an ark. I’m good with it being BG. No, we don’t have giant EU coverage to compete (though I do love our SR and TOHU folks!), but we never really have and we’ve done OK so far

Did you just say JQ has never had giant EU coverage to compete? Do you remember what it was like at and right after SOS’ “implosion”?

I completed 15/19 about 3 days into them being added. The only one I have an issue with is “Mist Merc Camp vanquisher”. The other 3 that I have not done are almost completed from just playing the game. But the “Mist Merc Camp Vanquisher” is really bad for promoting “artificial play”. As in, alot of achievement farmers will come in purely to do that achievement, taking up map cap and simply camp the mercenary camps until they spawn. This takes many hours and there is no way I will do this achievement because I would not do something like this to my server.

Jado Cast.1805:

they have been a small roaming group on for a few weeks now

Ive seen them running with ~30. Are they EU?

Who is the AT guild? Never seen them before this week.

Jayne.9251:

Actually, for the most part, EU players tend to leave two players fighting alone and run off to do other things. There have been countless times I’ve run past two players duking it out, sometimes I sit and watch, but more often I’ll just head off and leave them be. Likewise has happened to me duelling with someone else, most will leave you alone to fight it out. Must be a cultural thing.

That said, I agree, WvW isn’t meant to be fair. But half the fun is in outsmarting the enemy with fewer numbers.

Its similar in NA. There are alot of casuals who play the game though. When I move solo to an area, if I see 2-3 people just moving around I actually run past them on purpose. The casuals who aren’t good at PvP will usually react immediately and try to kill you. The good players are usually too busy doing more important things and ignore you or at most will work out what your going to do and kitten whether they need to stop you from doing it. So I know when 2-3 people come after me they are bad and I have a reasonable chance at ganking them.

This has been brought up so many times by people, including myself. The fix is in the hands of Anet, but it appears they just don’t care.

SkeletalLlama.5381:

Krashner.6275:

Liza.2758:

Avenge.1478:

Night Hawk Ix.7360:

Aurust.8961:

TC so close to BG, keep it up TC…… i know you guys can get 2nd place…….. Don’t forget all the guilds BG lured away with gold from you…..

WoW SoR rlly going there? Ok what guilds are you talking about? BTW your 2vs1 tactic didnt go unnoticed. Get TC to push BG more with no chance to win the matchup, while you push BG at the same time and try to get some extra points for SoR?

Sadly 2vs1 will never work with TC in the mix (no offence TC) but they’re not JQ and dont have the numbers to successfully 2vs1 all week. Can’t see TC falling for your tactic SoR, But you carry on trying to get TC on your side SoR while you take their stuff LOL

We don’t need TC on our side to demolish you. It hasnt even been 24 hours since reset and youre 6,000 points down already.

It’s quite remarkable to see what happens when papa JQ isnt holding your hand against us. All BG is good for is their naievety in thinking that they can win this thing, when all along the reason they won last matchup is due to JQ realizing we’re the bigger threat than you.

pats on head

clam down bro… some of us were at bar celebrating victory, chilling , relaxing etc…

cant sit in front of computer 2 weeks straight …

They feel they have something to prove this week, it’s hard for some of them to get over a defeat. All the animosity is unnecessary and counterproductive, the more we hate each other the easier it will be for JQ in week 7.

Can’t blame them. BG stabbed SoR in the back last week while working against JQ. Now BG is getting a taste of their own medicine with TC and SoR working together.

Doubt it. TC don’t really play that way.

Finished mine two days back. Ive got 15/19 to get the meta achievement done. Of the last 4, I’ll complete 3 of them probably today. The last one, Mists Merc Camp Vanquisher, I will not complete. It is a serious waste of time and I couldn’t bring myself to do that to my server and waste map cap doing it.

The absolute key to getting a level playing field is to convince Anet there should be one. Some time ago they said that WvW was not designed to be fair and they have ran with that since.

This thread is full of awesomesauce.

So much EU baggage in this thread. Its harder to keep up with than a soapbox show.

If you have trouble in the JP, try going in with some guildies or find some players who are good at PvP. I did all 4 JPs on blackgate this week when we didn’t have queues. I went in alone. Each time I was attacked and each time I killed them (or in one case feared them to the bottom of the JP). Im yet to run into a player in the JP who is actually good at PvP. That said, I rarely run into a player in WvW who is good at PvP and even then they are usually too busy working on other more important objectives rather than chasing a single player around.

style.6173:

Another bad post. If no one likes blobs, why do they blob? Because that’s how a lot of people want to play.

I don’t want to play it that way, but thats what you have to do to win sometimes. So I blob.

I can only presume the amount of 2v1 tears in this thread are a reflection of the influx of players JQ has had lately. Nobody who has played in T1 for any length of time would see this as nothing other than same skritt different day. For that matter it wasn’t even that big a deal compared to some of the skritt 2v1s where two servers have all out double teamed one server for an entire week. Like this weeks double team was only for like one timezone and then the next timezone completely changed. There were timezones where JQ and SOR were double teaming BG and others where BG and JQ were double teaming SOR. This has nothing on the demoralizing effects that the few week long double teams have had in T1.

You get the rewards based on the server you started the season with.

gebrechen.5643:

I see some really bad weeks coming for BG. Wonder how long the enjoy being the receiving end. SoR forum politic worked great, they made BG think working together with them against JQ was a great idea because BG still believes they can play for #1 and maybe some really believed SoR doesn’t care for being #1 and they just hate that schedule thing.
Well played, SoR.

Forum politics? You do realize most sane commanders avoid this forum like the plague right?

TheBlackHand.2089:

Today I got to see something new. Some BG dropping siege for a fort, drop the wall, and wait a good ten minutes for the JQ zerg to come in to cap it. You all can deny all of the claims of cooperation you want, but you’re not fooling anyone. It just delights me to know that the rest of our league will be spent trolling BG for it. Yeah, we might not outscore JQ in the end, but BG is probably going to account delete by time we’re done with them.

Sincerely,
SOR

You do realize that almost nobody on BG wants SOR to be beaten by JQ this week right? We are actually looking at how we can keep you on top of them. If JQ wins or even comes second this week, its a very bad scenario for both BG and SOR.

Its all good to say “we are working on the lag”. Truth is its worse than ever since the introduction of leagues and there is no end in sight. My builds in WvW have been adjusted so that I can maximise my effectiveness in fights where I cannot use any skills because that is what happens almost all of my game time now. I can be fighting 1v1 and skills lockup because somewhere else on the map someone else is fighting. This is unacceptable Anet.

Blackgate and SOR. Both servers will openly karma train when its possible (score/match decided). I play on BG and prior to leagues I loved it when we were matched against SOR and a T2 server because I know they play the karma train game so as soon as the match was decided, its farming time. JQ tends not to like karma training although they join in sometimes.

scootshoot.6583:

sostronk.8167:

EU PvDoor guild complaining about being outnumbered.

So says the guy who has already been on SOR, JQ, and now BG all in the past 2 months as it’s obvious those who transfer this many times amongst the 3 in this short a span is looking for a server with the least amount of resistance and PvDoor capabilities.

IF BG don’t win leagues where will you transfer next? Tarnished Coast?

I understand that this is just a snide remark because your mad at what I said, but Ill give you the answer to your question. I don’t intend on going anywhere. I have no problem with leaving my server. But the decision is one for my guild. They seem to be completely dedicated to BG so I highly doubt I will leave. However, I do want to go play in EU servers and play EU prime time at some stage as an experience to see how those servers operate, much like what I have done with NA servers. So at some stage I probably will leave, even if it is only temporary, but I wouldn’t leave over something as simple as the results from leagues.

EU PvDoor guild complaining about being outnumbered.

I don’t think Anet understand how bad it is. If they did, they would have done something or at least acknowledged the severe problem.

Standard answer is run clerics armor with PVT trinkets. Trait into boon duration, healing and shouts. Buff your allies.

Olvendred.3027:

With a more equal schedule:
- BG and SoR have equal footing towards winning the league
- BG and SoR have more opportunities to take a break during the league.
- JQ gets fewer boring matches, as many JQ have complained about
- JQ doesn’t get focused as much when it’s BG-SoR-JQ.
- The winner of the league means something.

With the current schedule:
- ???

Seriously, if anyone has actual arguments in favour of the current schedule, I’d love to hear them.

This!

They will never fix the skill lag. They have said time and time again they would and it has never improved. Its so much worse now with leagues than it has ever been.

Zenyatoo.4059:

gebrechen.5643:

I saw SoR Sea ticking +270 most of the time today.

What time period do we consider Sea?
Im always a little confused on exactly what time period people mean when they use things like Sea and Oceanic.

Oceanic is New Zealand (GMT+13) and Australian East Coast is (GMT+10) mostly. That said West Australia is +8GMT. SEA is maybe +6 to +8GMT. Oceanic and sea somewhat overlap. For instance, I am East Coast of Aus and I see SEA guilds start to login around 8pm my time. Most Australians are employed and we don’t start to logon till around 5-6PM so there is only a small time where Oceanic is the predominant players on the map.

Cirus.5748:

JQ’s stacked SEA averaged a tick of 300 last night, there is going to be more of it to come,

JQ already have 2 automatic wins over SoR and BG thanks to the schedule

They were ticking 390 for quite a while.

This lag is ridiculous. Its like play 1 frame per 5 seconds. Anet can’t just say they are going to fix it one day. They need to do something about it now, even if its temporary.

Tonight there are no queues for blackgate (a T1 server). The only people that will be complaining are those that are new to WvW. Those that aren’t know there are always queues on reset that don’t ease up till Sundayish. What Anet said was an empty threat from my experience. Unless the only time you happen to play is the same time as reset, it shouldn’t be an issue for you.

We always try to remind ourselves of map politics yada yada. But there is always that underlying feeling that you just want to have good fights and screw the politics. I mean, some of the politics I see in this game makes me sick to the bone. Especially the prearranged stuff. But it happens I guess. Last night BG got (prearranged) double teamed on bay in SORBL and it was so awesome fighting against it, so awesome I didn’t want it to end.

Britannicus.4782:

I want to support the OP’s point that some of these achievements are absolutely relentless. This is especially problematic when they reinforce bad or artificial gameplay, like tagging yaks. Also, the devs should have foreseen that a lot of these achievements become harder rather than easier in the season format, where servers are overloaded, PC kills are easier, but captures and NPC kills are harder to get.

I would argue that tagging/killing yaks is a good achievement. Everytime you kill one your getting 3 points for your server. But I do agree with your point regarding artificial gameplay. I just think the node achievement would be a better example. I am seeing PvE players going around capping nodes when there is no reason to do so (we already own the node buff on the map etc).

I had 3 servers to chose from without queues yesterday and I probably will have again tonight. Im in a Tier 1 server. Tell me more about these players whining about queues.

LostBalloon.6423:

Jet.4795:

Seigfried.5938:

JQ already lost GD and agg. Who will be nexxxt….? I take it JQues were too long with the pugs?

Who will be next hu? It sure won’t be HzH.

Conspiracy theory!! HzH transfering!! :O

HzH are definitely transferring. Just yesterday one of them asked me if I wanted to trade servers. I declined. But maybe they will find some other takers.

/supplyinfo gives him information on how much supply there is.

I haven’t manned a single siege weapon since reset and I have 4 /10 walls. Not sure how this is supposed to work. I presumed you had to use siege. But I definitely haven’t used any

Between the 9 characters I have, I have around 1k ranks. My highest is 425. I have 36k kills. Most people who play as much as I do have alot more than 36k kills but I spent the first maybe 9 months of wvw solo roaming and you don’t get as many kills as those running around in guilds or zergs. And I still solo roam alot when I get sick of the blobs

The finishers have a high drop rate in the labryth. I have around 300 finishers (mad king and scarecrow) all from farming that for a few hours.

I already have this achievement. I got it tonight so it only took me 4 days. Its not a big goal. Its just that its designed for the average player to complete in 7 weeks. If you jump in and do a couple of hours here and there you will get it. On average, most WvW players get a bit over 1 level an hour. So you need to play 50 hours of WvW. Thats only 7 hours of WvW. And thats just if your playing average. Its possible if its a karma train to get it in one night.

Dese.1382:

Jaha.2840:

Let’s not forget the immobilize bug where you are skill-locked entirely, especially when leaping.

Funny you say this, I thought I was glitched in terrain the first 3 or 4 times, where you have to /dance to get your character free. I was dancing to get free and still nothing was happening. Then I raged in TS and guildie mentioned the change.

Can someone comment on why this change was made?

Is this actually a bug or was it intended? I wasn’t sure before. I guess its strange if its intended.

TBH I don’t think anything has changed on their end. Its just the constant stress the servers are under. Even in Tier 1 there were less than capacity times like EU and Oceanic, but now its under pressure 24/7 with no break.

LOL those double team fights over bay on SORBL tonight were epic. Keep bringing it guys Im pulling an all nighter, this is just too good!