Guild Wars 2

Swamurabi.7890:

sostronk.8167:

@Swamurabi.7890, its a product of the games design. That is, this whole T1 debacle. I have played from the lowest ranked to highest ranked servers. I did enjoy my time in lower tiers more tbh. But at the end of the day I always had this negative feeling that no matter what I did, I was always going to lose. Its all a numbers game and the map caps allow for T1 servers to be T1 servers. I think if there were greater restrictions on this that things wouldn’t be so bad. About a week back Devon Carter did a Q&A on an external website and I questioned the map cap and he skipped my question. I don’t think they ever intend on WvW being a balanced fight where from time to time one server or another will win or lose. Its not about skills or tactics, its about numbers. There isn’t a single week where I have felt that skill or tactics have decided the outcome of a match, only the player turnout. The whole claim of recruiting and having a good community to get more players is complete balony. Its up to anet to fix what they are implementing and they dont intend on doing that.

But that’s the main problem with WvW…. It could be so much greater than it is now IF Anet did a better job at trying to make WvW closer to being balanced. For every blowout matchup. there’s one high or very high server that has players in WvW and TWO servers where the players have no incentive to play. All the way up to T2 you have coverage issues where players on high or very high servers have no incentive to play WvW.

Totally agree with you man.

Pinkus.2860:

OliT.7945:

In all seriousness BG, please please recruit more oceanics. This is 500 tick is boring a hell.

Ahahaha good lord that gave me a solid laugh. You must be new here.

lololol. Dat awkward moment. I recall us having some oceanic guilds who left for server balance reasons. Can’t remember who they are though :p

Chris.3290:

Take it easy on them, they haven’t had cause to go into combat with less than 15 people in months.

Like I said in another thread. You’ll find individual roamers from T1 servers, but they have no organized small roaming groups. With all the blobbing from the other servers it probably doesn’t make sense for them anyhow.

I just worry about having to adapt to their style to fight at all (blechh!)

This isn’t true. There are actually a fair few small roaming groups on BG and JQ. My guild split and run 5 man groups a few times a week and there are other guilds like SG and Riot. BG has been topping the points not from tick every single week. I would argue we have more roamers and small scale groups than any other server.

zhonnika.1784:

I think y’all are forgetting the 3rd monster in this equation. We have yet to see SoR at full-strength, so hold off calling JQ stacked for now, please :P

They were at full strength whilst JQ was taking a week off in a Tier 2 matchup. There is no way they can beat JQ for coverage. The only timezone they might win is EU. They have a stronger NA, but its going to be 4 maps queued anyways.

@Swamurabi.7890, its a product of the games design. That is, this whole T1 debacle. I have played from the lowest ranked to highest ranked servers. I did enjoy my time in lower tiers more tbh. But at the end of the day I always had this negative feeling that no matter what I did, I was always going to lose. Its all a numbers game and the map caps allow for T1 servers to be T1 servers. I think if there were greater restrictions on this that things wouldn’t be so bad. About a week back Devon Carter did a Q&A on an external website and I questioned the map cap and he skipped my question. I don’t think they ever intend on WvW being a balanced fight where from time to time one server or another will win or lose. Its not about skills or tactics, its about numbers. There isn’t a single week where I have felt that skill or tactics have decided the outcome of a match, only the player turnout. The whole claim of recruiting and having a good community to get more players is complete balony. Its up to anet to fix what they are implementing and they dont intend on doing that.

Diehard.1432:

declan.3968:

Does JQ still need SEA guild?

NO………….

Don’t listen to them, JQ can always fit some more SEA guilds in!

This is an easy trap to stumble into. I have to remind myself they have a value regardless on regular occasions.

Synyster.5894:

Found a bot Farming cayote’s in WvW his name is Heavenfoxxx

All I see is someone getting their sigil stacks.

JJBigs.8456:

scootshoot and sostronk are like a match made in heaven the way they compliment each others comments

whats funny is the speculation done by them, hoping their spies have told them the right rumors. “JQ Q’s sooo many maps bro” – How about SoR’s 4 Map Q during NA?

scootshoot.6583:

Just a fyi, Stealth.8150 is a duo account troll, his main is on BG, and his troll is on SOR. He has a huge infatuation with SOR guild FEAR, lol. Read his posting history, all that needs to be said.

Without going into detail, since you can ask him yourself, his main isnt on BG (or is it)! Also second accounts arent troll accounts unless they are wasting supply, siege griefing etc which no one has ever even accused him of, so I highly doubt that he is “trolling on sor”

Don’t ask me, I’m all confused and stuff. My understanding was Scootshoot was from SOR and Stealthzor moved to JQ where he setup the FEAR guild for his extra bank until MERC got up and running.

What the OP says is fairly accurate. But the thread did quickly turn into a propaganda campaign for a few of the loyalists of various servers, so if your looking for actual legit information I wouldn’t read past the first post. If your reading this, its already too late :p

Essence Snow.3194:

sostronk.8167:

I purchased 100 omega golems. I noticed a huge downward trend in them and purchased them for 58s a piece. I mentioned this and someone I know speculated that it was due to ram mastery over-performing. If that was the case then I could only see a ram mastery nerf and an eventual increase in the price of omega golems. I heard a rumor about 3 hours later that there may be a duplication exploit. 1 day later I read confirmation that there was a duplication exploit. Those who got a bargain at my price or even some purchased for under 40s probably did not know there was an exploit. There was certainly something amiss, but like I mentioned, there were other reasons such as ram mastery that sound completely logical. And most of us aren’t economists by profession believe it or not.

The way I see it, if Anet don’t do anything to rectify the duplicated golems then I have every right to sell them when I see fit, assuming my golems were even the ones that were duplicated and not someone selling legit golems who sold them in a panic. I will be selling them when they get up to where they were previously.

For the ram mastery speculation to hold any water regular golems and rams would have been drastically impacted as well. As we all know this wasn’t/isn’t the case.

Players with enough stock to drastically effect a singular items are typically well rehearsed in said items. They would definitely know the base price of creating an omega golem from regular ones via the mystic forge. That recipe is the regulating implement that Anet has provided. Players with such stock as to drastically effect prices typically do not panic sell below a regulated price range with things are obviously amiss …….ie……They weren’t able to attain such stock in the 1st place by not knowing how the market/game works and or is regulated.

Most people don’t put that much thought into it dude. “Its like holy skritt the omegas are going though the floor. Why? Ram mastery. Oh so if ram mastery is overperforming than it might get a nerf and omegas might go back up. If I buy some now I might make a profit and if worst comes to worst and Im wrong I can just donate them to my guild.” I don’t analyse the economy and look at regulators and whatever that other stuff is you just talked about. I just make a best guess on how things work.

Svarty.8019:

Atherakhia.4086:

At this point should we all just be using Arrow Cart hacks? It’s a complete waste of time playing this game at this point otherwise. Given this has been a problem for months without any improvement or comment, is it safe to presume this is approved by ANet?

Laws are there to be skirted. You have to get as NEAR AS POSSIBLE to breaking the law without actually stepping over the line. That’s the rule of our society.

I thought the law was, its only illegal if you get caught?

scootshoot.6583:

sostronk.8167:

scootshoot.6583:

sostronk.8167:

Blix.8021:

scootshoot.6583:

Furiousbeard.7602:

JQ is STACKED!

Wow, not the same server from 1 month ago.

JQ has all 4 maps on queue during Asian time zones….crazy I know, haha.

BG commanders during that time slot should instruct their players to stack and defend your home lands solely so the JQ players on the other 3 maps gets bored out of their minds.

All 4 maps are not queued during asian times, usually EB has a queue and maybe one other map if people are stacking to try to break a waypoint. People just communicate which map is being hit and drag people from map to map.

All 4 maps can be queued during SEA timezone and frequently is. I know because I have an alternate account on JQ and after being told this was the case I logged in on that account and found there actually was 4 maps queued. This was during the week, mind you, not on the weekend with people pulling OT from other timezones. Ive literally never seen BG with 4 maps queued during SEA when I have been there and I play SEA timezone ~90% of nights. On rare occasions SOR has had queues, but only a couple of times in the few weeks I spent there.

Once leagues start I suspect JQ will have queues during sea almost every night. SOR may be able to pull it off depending on just how much of an influx in numbers we see (from leagues). And BG probably wouldn’t pull it off without massive restructuring and timezone changes to get NA players to play during this timezone OR getting more sea guilds onboard.

Yep and JQ SEA gets more active once the weekend ends for North Americans.

Stead of spreading yourselves out this week and giving free bags to JQ, BG commanders should just stack everyone on their homeland map only during this timeslot and siege the crap out of it. Make JQ on the other 3 maps get bored silly for the full week.

Its still an issue because this would mean we can’t hold keeps on other maps, including waypointed ones. Not really much we can do. Meh. Coverage wars I will just get my stomps on.

Pssst, JQ at present is ticking > 500 vs another Tier 1 server bro…

Troll JQ SEA for the rest of the week and have everyone on stack your home BL to the gills during this time so the other 3 maps can stand around picking herbs for 5 hours.

Im gonna go re-trait and run my perma-stealth build and pick herbs myself lol Oh and also iron ore and soft wood. Dat phat lootz!

kingcragus.6810:

sostronk.8167:

I have 270% MF. I had a really good run of exotics two weeks back where I got about 6 in one day. Thats probably more than I have had drop in my entire time playing WvW.

The description on the wiki says:

""Everytime you kill a monster you roll on a number of tables, inside these tables are different rarity categories. Magic find increases the chances you will get higher categories. For example if there is a 1 in 10 category, and you have 200% magic find you will have 3/10 chances to get that category. This improves not just the rarity of the items you get but can also improve your chances at getting trophies and rare crafting materials like lodestones."

So lets say the catergory for an exotic is 1/100,000 chance, with my (soon to be) 300% MF I have a 4/100,000 chance of getting an exotic. Basically, an unnoticeable difference as far as I am concerned. If we compare lower level things like trophies, salvage scraps, materials and maybe even rares, this is where you get more benefit from your magic find because you are having them drop more frequently. Basically, measuring the success of your magic find on exotics is not the way to do it.

Also, one thing I am interested in is loot bags. MF does not effect the quality of loot in a loot bag, but it does increase the chances of getting a loot bag. I presume this is so for WvW, but I am not certain. I just know this is the case in PvE.

1/100,000 × 300% would be 3/100,000?

I got 72% now and play mostly WvW. I have noticed little difference. It is like 1 rare a week but my mf is low.

According to the definition on the wiki, it would equate to 4/100,000.

Essence Snow.3194:

Osi.3504:

I’m not hiding anything, I’m just rewording or changing something after proof reading because I choose to do it after I post it, don’t like that? too bad.

Also you said “Hopefully the punishments aren’t as harsh as they were with the karma exploit or the snowflake(except for the actual dupers…ban them to kitten!!!) and those that tried to get ahead easily learn for next time” which can pretty much mean anything aside from account bounding golems, either way you want punishment upon those players which is how I read it and how you posted it. As of my arguement, I find it wrong to punish those players period and I wasn’t a player that made massive gold off it, I just look at the facts and the game mechanics here. Lots of innocenet players would be banned in the process for doing something they do any other given day. To a lot of people they might not even realize they were duped, perhaps they just crashed in price cause one person sold a ton. I thought that at first personally because I didn’t think duping was even possible. Perhaps you should read everything yourself and yes, it’s pretty arrogant to reply back to me the way you did at first just because I challenged you and edited my post to express my viewpoints better than I originally did and for all I knew no one was watching this post like a hawk.

Be back later.

Ya just skimmed through the user agreement again and I don’t see anything in there stating your account will be terminated for buying items off the trading post no matter how they got there. ArenaNet can clean the mess up and ban those who did violate the rules.

Also if anything good came out of this dupe, it created a MASSIVE gold sink.

If they bought a significant amount they full well knew the market price of them. That knowledge bars them from being innocent. While some players may not have known that the items were duped, the price and supply were enough to know something was not right and most likely too good to be true. Aside from the obvious abnomalies some players decided to go ahead and try to take advantage of something (again it was/is pretty blatant something was/is amiss) that had the potential to generate lots of profit.

tl/dr: Players that bought loads were most likely not innocent in the least like they claim to be, rather they chose to try and exploit an exploit.

I purchased 100 omega golems. I noticed a huge downward trend in them and purchased them for 58s a piece. I mentioned this and someone I know speculated that it was due to ram mastery over-performing. If that was the case then I could only see a ram mastery nerf and an eventual increase in the price of omega golems. I heard a rumor about 3 hours later that there may be a duplication exploit. 1 day later I read confirmation that there was a duplication exploit. Those who got a bargain at my price or even some purchased for under 40s probably did not know there was an exploit. There was certainly something amiss, but like I mentioned, there were other reasons such as ram mastery that sound completely logical. And most of us aren’t economists by profession believe it or not.

The way I see it, if Anet don’t do anything to rectify the duplicated golems then I have every right to sell them when I see fit, assuming my golems were even the ones that were duplicated and not someone selling legit golems who sold them in a panic. I will be selling them when they get up to where they were previously.

I have 270% MF. I had a really good run of exotics two weeks back where I got about 6 in one day. Thats probably more than I have had drop in my entire time playing WvW.

The description on the wiki says:

""Everytime you kill a monster you roll on a number of tables, inside these tables are different rarity categories. Magic find increases the chances you will get higher categories. For example if there is a 1 in 10 category, and you have 200% magic find you will have 3/10 chances to get that category. This improves not just the rarity of the items you get but can also improve your chances at getting trophies and rare crafting materials like lodestones."

So lets say the catergory for an exotic is 1/100,000 chance, with my (soon to be) 300% MF I have a 4/100,000 chance of getting an exotic. Basically, an unnoticeable difference as far as I am concerned. If we compare lower level things like trophies, salvage scraps, materials and maybe even rares, this is where you get more benefit from your magic find because you are having them drop more frequently. Basically, measuring the success of your magic find on exotics is not the way to do it.

Also, one thing I am interested in is loot bags. MF does not effect the quality of loot in a loot bag, but it does increase the chances of getting a loot bag. I presume this is so for WvW, but I am not certain. I just know this is the case in PvE.

Its unlikely they will ever respond. There have already been hundreds, if not thousands of posts making reference to the problem. A number of people in here even made their forum signatures outlining the problem. This discussion has been going on for at least 8 months that I can remember and there are posts from as early as launch where developers are talking about how they support eyefinity users. Anets silence on the issue that so many people have brought up to me can only mean one of two things, either they support the unfair advantage or they have no intention of fixing it. Either way, yes, perhaps we should all be exploiting now.

It may be a botter or some kind of macro/script. But keep in mind, when I do treb I continue firing regardless of whether the wall is down or not. Ive seen some pretty bad times where cutoffs have occurred after a quick speed repair in front of my allied zerg. Best to keep that wall under fire so people don’t consider repairing.

I loath the use of “competent” that this thread has used. This thread is carcinogenic.

scootshoot.6583:

sostronk.8167:

Blix.8021:

scootshoot.6583:

Furiousbeard.7602:

JQ is STACKED!

Wow, not the same server from 1 month ago.

JQ has all 4 maps on queue during Asian time zones….crazy I know, haha.

BG commanders during that time slot should instruct their players to stack and defend your home lands solely so the JQ players on the other 3 maps gets bored out of their minds.

All 4 maps are not queued during asian times, usually EB has a queue and maybe one other map if people are stacking to try to break a waypoint. People just communicate which map is being hit and drag people from map to map.

All 4 maps can be queued during SEA timezone and frequently is. I know because I have an alternate account on JQ and after being told this was the case I logged in on that account and found there actually was 4 maps queued. This was during the week, mind you, not on the weekend with people pulling OT from other timezones. Ive literally never seen BG with 4 maps queued during SEA when I have been there and I play SEA timezone ~90% of nights. On rare occasions SOR has had queues, but only a couple of times in the few weeks I spent there.

Once leagues start I suspect JQ will have queues during sea almost every night. SOR may be able to pull it off depending on just how much of an influx in numbers we see (from leagues). And BG probably wouldn’t pull it off without massive restructuring and timezone changes to get NA players to play during this timezone OR getting more sea guilds onboard.

Yep and JQ SEA gets more active once the weekend ends for North Americans.

Stead of spreading yourselves out this week and giving free bags to JQ, BG commanders should just stack everyone on their homeland map only during this timeslot and siege the crap out of it. Make JQ on the other 3 maps get bored silly for the full week.

Its still an issue because this would mean we can’t hold keeps on other maps, including waypointed ones. Not really much we can do. Meh. Coverage wars I will just get my stomps on.

lol you guys should definitely be karma training already. If your not, your crazy. Wish I was in this match up

Blix.8021:

scootshoot.6583:

Furiousbeard.7602:

JQ is STACKED!

Wow, not the same server from 1 month ago.

JQ has all 4 maps on queue during Asian time zones….crazy I know, haha.

BG commanders during that time slot should instruct their players to stack and defend your home lands solely so the JQ players on the other 3 maps gets bored out of their minds.

All 4 maps are not queued during asian times, usually EB has a queue and maybe one other map if people are stacking to try to break a waypoint. People just communicate which map is being hit and drag people from map to map.

All 4 maps can be queued during SEA timezone and frequently is. I know because I have an alternate account on JQ and after being told this was the case I logged in on that account and found there actually was 4 maps queued. This was during the week, mind you, not on the weekend with people pulling OT from other timezones. Ive literally never seen BG with 4 maps queued during SEA when I have been there and I play SEA timezone ~90% of nights. On rare occasions SOR has had queues, but only a couple of times in the few weeks I spent there.

Once leagues start I suspect JQ will have queues during sea almost every night. SOR may be able to pull it off depending on just how much of an influx in numbers we see (from leagues). And BG probably wouldn’t pull it off without massive restructuring and timezone changes to get NA players to play during this timezone OR getting more sea guilds onboard.

Reducing the map cap on borderlands is the main thing I want in the game right now. Ill be fine if they keep EB at the same for those who want massive fights, but Id rather see the BLs reduced by 10-20.

Second would probably be more features integrated for commanders. Don’t really need to explain that one too much I don’t think.

Third, I think they are making a big mistake with the new GvG integration. If I understand correctly, the players doing the GvG will still be part of the map cap. Thus the same problem where those who lose important objectives because we don’t have the numbers is going to be a major issue. GvG should be a separate instance. Im glad GvG is being catered for, but not at the expense of WvW.

ketorin.5923:

last night NA

JQ BL and BG BL was some of the most fun i’ve had in a long time.. it was soooo hectic everywhere we were getting hammered on all fronts hopping back n forth between BL’s trying to defend JQ hills and BG bay against HUGE bg/jq forces

i wish it was like that every night

I wish it wasn’t like that on Friday nights No karma train yo! My week has been ruined QQ etc etc.

Sabastian.7126:

kuora.5402:

There’s a teleporting blackgate omega golem in BGBL… Deeply saddened by the fact BG has to resort to such tactics to gain points.

+1

We are aware of it. If I see them I will report them. From what I have seen, some already have and we are on the look out. And just an FYI, there is an SOR player who has been doing the same this week, so please don’t turn that into a BS server vs server thing. Every server in T1 is having this problem atm as it seems there has been an outbreak of hacking recently. I presume it is to do with free weekend, but could be wrong. Maybe there is a new public hack available or something else.

Boreslayer.6204:

A big thank you to the GetofFeris guy who dropped a Dusk for me in Shandaran Hills just under the bridge at inner. XD

Nice, Gratz. I’m jelly!

Traxien Cion.9261:

I’ve seen zergs very close to 90, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen one break 90.

I think that might be the cap or maybe like 95-100. It’s not much higher than that. I’ve come into a completely empty map with two other guild groups and we had 86 people total and it was queued after that. And I see supplyinfos over 80 while pugmanding on the reg.

In a BL or EBG? EBG has a much higher cap than the BLs. Fairly certain the BL cap is 80 and the EB cap is 120.

Looks like Ill be hitting around 290% by the end of this weekend, so I wasn’t too far off. I think Ill just have to do what the guy above suggests and stop my goal of maxing magic find and let the game do the rest. Although, as I say, this is a problem for me because I salvage for profit from items I buy from the TP regardless of whether I get the essence or not. So eventually Ill have the cap and end up storing some 250 stacks of 200s and then start deleting everything after that.

Also, some might be interested to know, I found that once you hit around 225MF every level after that is only 30k luck per level, so there is a hard cap of 30k per 1% up to 300%.

Tarkus.4109:

Burl.9567:

Teikoku.2068:

Shifty.4985:

kitten is with these blobs now? -_-

SoR and IRON complaining about blobbing?

Talk about Irony!

It was cute how you built 3 AC’s as well as having your blob.

The numbers needed to create a “blob” are getting smaller and smaller. Soon running any more than a 5 man will be considered blobbing it up.

In before the calls of 7 man mini blobs everywhere. But in all seriousness guys, stop using blob as a substitute for zerg just because it seems like the cool thing to do. 30 isn’t a blob, any numbers above 50 can be considered a blob – so if you call SoR blob inc and its like 15 guys I’ll give you a slap upside the head if you are on server.

The below image is a blob – the pic of IRON is not one of them

The picture of IRON is next to a node, not a tower and you barely see the edge of them. Keep playing the political game and win over IRON so you can actually win with a 2v1, because there is no way you would ever win an even fight.

The problem is something that could have been fixed by simple pathing. The problem is the ruins are way too accessible. Each node should have been time consuming so that it was a major loss of time should an entire zerg attempt to “zerg” the nodes, placing other defenses at risk as well as wasting time on possible attacks. As it stands now a zerg can just pass through on the way to an objective without losing much time at all.

Rigel.3092:

sostronk.8167:

magikfox.9658:

Tarkus.4109:

Cod on Cod.3694:

Tarkus.4109:

Shifty.4985:

Tarkus, go to bread!

NOPE

Quick, Someone make a funny meme or snarky .gif out of this!!!

“Leaves BG because he doesn’t want to burn out doing overtime….”

Commanding in EU usually meant that I would’ve had to have taken militia and coordinate dual hits with HB and RK – staying up to fight them to see how they would fare (tbh they had a low guildee showing) wasn’t because I wanted to burn at both ends and was doing overtime. If you command a lot you often want to see if the guys you usually play with are up to scratch, playing in EU was more because I was curious to see if RK/PLX/HB would smash my group (95% JQ militia) as JQ has been historically weak in EU as it has no current guilded presence. There is plenty of militia in that time-slot, all they need is someone to lead them (cough cough, need EU guilds).

The best fights I’ve had all year have been against the BG ones since we left, as we cut a lot of dead weight from the guild when we moved off. Making a 3rd underdog server that hasn’t been competitive for first place for competitive again is part of the enjoyment you get from leading and JQs community is just as welcoming as BGs was. We are still the only guilded presence that has its prime ~5-9pm AEST as opposed to the previously stacked BG OC which had 3 OC guilds that usually ended in a ROFL-stomp on BGs behalf mostly from the part of them having a large militia and guild presence 24/7. We improved competition by moving as JQ was legitamately the underdog when it came to competition, as having one-sided fights is fun for no-one and moving from the previously Rank 1 server to the previously Rank 3 shifts the meta of T1 so that we get more fights in more timezones as opposed to everyone stacking in their respective timezones.

Thanks for the fights HB, Afterlife, PLX, RK and IRON.

On top of this, I want to remind everyone of the score HALF WAY THROUGH THE FREAKIN WEEK.

This kitten is intense. In the smaller moments you have your 2v1s and those moments of dread where you only have a few things still your colour and everything is paper.

But looking at the larger picture… things are just amazing atm.

Imagine if the larger force of MERC that left had actually stayed in BG. Would the competition be this tight? Who knows. But for now things are looking fantastic.

Why even mention MERC leaving. They had very little effect. TKG on the other hand, had a large effect on the balance of the servers because they are actually good at the game.

Your discounting of MERC and what it did is beyond dubious, it is ludicrous. While it takes the efforts of an entire server (all time zones) to win a weekly matchup, MERC’s performance in numerous weeks had undoubtedly seriously helped BG win some weekly matchups. TKG who?

The other night there was a fight over bay. MERC pushed inside first, followed by TKG. Two of our guilds reacted. It was about a 60v60 with around 30 of them being MERC and 30 TKG. Two split guilds on both sides. Open area on the outside of inner. First engagement and MERC melted after about 10 seconds. The other 60 on our side spent well over 5 minutes trying to dislodge TKG. MERC cannot fight themselves. Their one strength was rallying pugs to fight for them. They don’t know how to fight themselves. Guilds like TKG and many others on both JQ, SOR and BG are on a completely different level to MERC. The gold that was payed for them wasn’t worth it. MERC is overrated because the pugs supporting them were so good. I don’t even rate them truth be told. When they first left I had mixed feelings about it. They seemed to be saying that they were going to take things steady and roll as a guild for once rather than a float team. Took them all of two days before they were rolling exclusively with a map blob or hiding behind walls and ACs. I figured that would happen. But secretly I tried to have an optimistic view for them and hoped that what Tarkus was saying was actually true. MERC who? JQ will figure it out eventually.

I moved around alot during the first ~10 months of WvW from server to server. I did it for the experience in seeing how different servers operate. Each server has its flaws, there is no disputing that. But one thing really stood at for me was the way Blackgate handled themselves in the open field. They are IMO the undisputed strongest PvP server in WvW. But we are in “Tier 1”. Its also true that map politics is not our strong point, but IMO again this is something to be proud of. The WvW in Tier 1 is quite frankly lame where map politics and prearranged 2v1s decide the outcome of the week. BG for a long time has stood against this and I think its something as a server we should be proud of. We will fight against odds as we have done on many occasions and still come out on top. Thats the reason I have settled on Blackgate and will remain there despite my early moving arounds. I know for a fact that I will not be happier anywhere else, because Ive already been there!

It will never be fixed. You are just flogging a dead horse that has now decomposed and all that remains is dust.

magikfox.9658:

sostronk.8167:

magikfox.9658:

Tarkus.4109:

Cod on Cod.3694:

Tarkus.4109:

Shifty.4985:

Tarkus, go to bread!

NOPE

Quick, Someone make a funny meme or snarky .gif out of this!!!

“Leaves BG because he doesn’t want to burn out doing overtime….”

Commanding in EU usually meant that I would’ve had to have taken militia and coordinate dual hits with HB and RK – staying up to fight them to see how they would fare (tbh they had a low guildee showing) wasn’t because I wanted to burn at both ends and was doing overtime. If you command a lot you often want to see if the guys you usually play with are up to scratch, playing in EU was more because I was curious to see if RK/PLX/HB would smash my group (95% JQ militia) as JQ has been historically weak in EU as it has no current guilded presence. There is plenty of militia in that time-slot, all they need is someone to lead them (cough cough, need EU guilds).

The best fights I’ve had all year have been against the BG ones since we left, as we cut a lot of dead weight from the guild when we moved off. Making a 3rd underdog server that hasn’t been competitive for first place for competitive again is part of the enjoyment you get from leading and JQs community is just as welcoming as BGs was. We are still the only guilded presence that has its prime ~5-9pm AEST as opposed to the previously stacked BG OC which had 3 OC guilds that usually ended in a ROFL-stomp on BGs behalf mostly from the part of them having a large militia and guild presence 24/7. We improved competition by moving as JQ was legitamately the underdog when it came to competition, as having one-sided fights is fun for no-one and moving from the previously Rank 1 server to the previously Rank 3 shifts the meta of T1 so that we get more fights in more timezones as opposed to everyone stacking in their respective timezones.

Thanks for the fights HB, Afterlife, PLX, RK and IRON.

On top of this, I want to remind everyone of the score HALF WAY THROUGH THE FREAKIN WEEK.

This kitten is intense. In the smaller moments you have your 2v1s and those moments of dread where you only have a few things still your colour and everything is paper.

But looking at the larger picture… things are just amazing atm.

Imagine if the larger force of MERC that left had actually stayed in BG. Would the competition be this tight? Who knows. But for now things are looking fantastic.

Why even mention MERC leaving. They had very little effect. TKG on the other hand, had a large effect on the balance of the servers because they are actually good at the game.

Keep on the topic at hand and you will see the chain of posts link back to the much predicted “Tarkus doing the samething in JQ that he was in BG”.

TKG are good, but I predict your comment also holds the same amount of stigma similar to the prior posts in this chain of posts…

If you think a large portion of MERC leaving BG doesn’t deserve some mention to the changing powers then I say, uhhh herpa kitten a lemon heee heeeee… hateee hatee hatee hooooooo, gering ring ring ring ring ring".

Thats because you gotta beliefgate.

Which order you select them in is completely dependent on which class and build you are applying them to.

magikfox.9658:

Tarkus.4109:

Cod on Cod.3694:

Tarkus.4109:

Shifty.4985:

Tarkus, go to bread!

NOPE

Quick, Someone make a funny meme or snarky .gif out of this!!!

“Leaves BG because he doesn’t want to burn out doing overtime….”

Commanding in EU usually meant that I would’ve had to have taken militia and coordinate dual hits with HB and RK – staying up to fight them to see how they would fare (tbh they had a low guildee showing) wasn’t because I wanted to burn at both ends and was doing overtime. If you command a lot you often want to see if the guys you usually play with are up to scratch, playing in EU was more because I was curious to see if RK/PLX/HB would smash my group (95% JQ militia) as JQ has been historically weak in EU as it has no current guilded presence. There is plenty of militia in that time-slot, all they need is someone to lead them (cough cough, need EU guilds).

The best fights I’ve had all year have been against the BG ones since we left, as we cut a lot of dead weight from the guild when we moved off. Making a 3rd underdog server that hasn’t been competitive for first place for competitive again is part of the enjoyment you get from leading and JQs community is just as welcoming as BGs was. We are still the only guilded presence that has its prime ~5-9pm AEST as opposed to the previously stacked BG OC which had 3 OC guilds that usually ended in a ROFL-stomp on BGs behalf mostly from the part of them having a large militia and guild presence 24/7. We improved competition by moving as JQ was legitamately the underdog when it came to competition, as having one-sided fights is fun for no-one and moving from the previously Rank 1 server to the previously Rank 3 shifts the meta of T1 so that we get more fights in more timezones as opposed to everyone stacking in their respective timezones.

Thanks for the fights HB, Afterlife, PLX, RK and IRON.

On top of this, I want to remind everyone of the score HALF WAY THROUGH THE FREAKIN WEEK.

This kitten is intense. In the smaller moments you have your 2v1s and those moments of dread where you only have a few things still your colour and everything is paper.

But looking at the larger picture… things are just amazing atm.

Imagine if the larger force of MERC that left had actually stayed in BG. Would the competition be this tight? Who knows. But for now things are looking fantastic.

Why even mention MERC leaving. They had very little effect. TKG on the other hand, had a large effect on the balance of the servers because they are actually good at the game.

Straegen.2938:

sostronk.8167:

The meta is changing right now. Melee train is on its way out. Give it a few months of spreading and people here will see this. These compositions already melt against organized guilds.

Hammer train zombie hordes (banner warriors) are still extremely powerful in WvW at least in the mid tiers. Sure the squishes behind the train can find themselves in trouble but they need only roll a guardian or warrior and join the train to stay up longer in a fight. Hammer trains synergize very well complete with ample stability, knockdown, condi mangement and retaliation so no reason to think they are in trouble.

It doesn’t hold up against organized guild in T1. It holds up against mixed PUG groups, but not against decent guilds running set compositions. Its been falling off for some time. There are still guilds in T1 who aim for this as a composition in their guild, but they are months behind the stronger guilds and get wiped accordingly. Using heavies is still ok, a frontline is useful OFC, but melee trains melt eventually.

RashanDale.3609:

Valik Shin.9027:

I find it amusing that people complain that warriors are op in wvw when it use to be no one would play thrm.

what are you talking about? maybe warriors were thought to be weak in spvp, dunno. but they were always considered very good in zerg-wvw

There was a time where in these forums alot of people complained about them being weak, even though they weren’t.

Ghoulina.2976:

Night Hawk Ix.7360:

Ghoulina.2976:

Night Hawk Ix.7360:

Jet.4795:

Night Hawk Ix.7360:

WoW SoR that truce with JQ last night and the double-teaming seems to have backfired, GJ to JQ for jumping ahead of SoR to second place XD

There was a truce? I’m confused, lol last night all HzH and EMP did was push SOR garrison. LOL

Yup before i logged JQ and SoR had hit BG heavy on all maps we were down to 4 camps across all maps and 1 tower and 1 keep. So yup clear there was a truce since both servers hit BG at the same time on all maps. Normally JQ still lose out when they did passed truces with SoR, this time it was SoR that lost out and slipped to 3rd.

I think someone has their tinfoil hat on a little too tight. You’re the person yelling “We have spies” in /t as well aren’t you?

Dont believe i was talking about spys? I was talking about server’s making a truce to double team another server which is a legit WvW tactic. Maybe you dont understand this but thats fine.

Also if you’re seriously saying spying on other servers TS/map etc doesnt happen then you clearly dont WvW much. All servers have outted spys on there servers including people who have tried seige capping/ draining supplies to help other servers. Only last week BG finally got a guy perma banned for that, thanks to a dev spotting him walking lems off a cliff.

Relating one to the other is not saying one is the other.

As for a truce, considering all yesterday we focused mainly on SoR to push them below us, not seeing a truce there, now trying to keep BG towers paper is a smart tactic, not a truce. Now as for SoR focusing you, I can only guess they view you as the larger threat.

I think there is something in the history of rivalry with SOR and BG. SOR seem to get more satisfaction out of seeing BG “losing” than SOR actually “winning”. I have played on both servers but derive from somewhere else. I can’t say that I respect that rivalry. I do feel as though some of it is a bit of an unhealthy obsession that does make the game play in Tier 1 less tactical, competitive and enjoyable than it could be on way too many occasions. But kids gonna be kids.

Tyaen.5148:

Narcissistic person is a narcissist.

I’m really curious to see if BG can keep this up all week, or the previous pattern of early week fall off/mid week repush continues.

Great fights all.

After losing last week to SOR, I don’t think BG will stop turning up this week. The double team from Oceanic to SEA to EU tonight hurt, but I believe BG has something they want to prove. That said, some of us are taking breaks for leagues so anything could happen.

I was really surprised with what happened tonight. JQ focussing BG during late Oceanic when they had the numbers to reset some of SORs waypoints was a pretty interesting move that pretty much balanced this weeks fight between all 3 servers. With all 3 servers up with a chance to finish on top now, I doubt we will see a double team all week. But crazy things do happen.

The meta is changing right now. Melee train is on its way out. Give it a few months of spreading and people here will see this. These compositions already melt against organized guilds.

Liete.5263:

Are your characters bringing in XP for your lvl35? no, so stop it. It’s character progression above level 80 and nothing else

Players can use all this to level the character without doing anything. Currency alone can get you to level 80. Im just trying to find out why character progression is a big deal for him in WvW but not in the rest of the game. Im trying to work out how this works. I personally felt like character progression was something I wanted get involved in when I first started playing the game. But a year later and 9 alts, I don’t really care for it.

Seems some people are forgetting what happened with Kaineng and “free transfers to lower tier servers”.

The one on Jade Quarry was definitely a sabateur/spy. When this was going on there were very rigid caps on siege weapons and he basically single-handedly siege capped an entire map for months by building siege and then resetting it so it didnt decay and despawn.

The one on BG Im not so sure about. Its rumored to be an alt account from another server but as far as we know it may just be a troll.

I call both sabateur and trolls the same thing in my language because the end result is the same.

Yaro.3251:

zamalek.2154:

Either way, I am more interested from an official standpoint if sabotage is allowed, and if it is, how far we can go in terms of retaliating against it (without being reported and banned ourselves).

I cannot give you a source (cannot be bothered to dig them out) but you’re not the first player to bring this up on the forums. From what I remember, responses were quite straightforward. And honestly, CoC leaves little space for interpretations in this regard. If you are joining the server in WvW battle, you supposed play nice with your fellow mist warriors, not against them.

Enforcement is huge issue here however. So probably only repeated/mass offenses would be worked on. Catch them red-handed, take screenshots/videos, report. As much as you can do without breaking CoC yourself. Btw I’m still interested what specific actions you have in mind when asking about “how far we can go dealing with them”?

I experienced a pretty hardcore troll on Jade Quarry earlier this year. Flame rams were the thing back then. It took thousands of reports, multiple posts in this forum, hundreds of screenshot reports through player support and after months he was banned. The guy couldn’t have been more blatant. Oh, and he was resetting siege to make sure the map stayed siege capped, which was an issue at the time.

Same thing went on in Blackgate recently. Still completely blatant. Thousands of reports, forum posts etc etc. Took around 1 and a half months and apparently he was recently banned.

Its almost not even worth reporting it with the timeframe it takes to get action from Anet. Most of these trolls will get bored of doing it before they are banned.

Liete.5263:

Mantis.3026:

ColinJohanson.2394:

Hey folks,

The addition of the bonus WXP for laurels/badges is simply intended to give WvW players an additional option they can spend their laurels/badges on, it is not intended to fix any issues with alts and WxP.

We’re aware of, and actively discussing the amount of progression we’ve added through WxP and the difficulty for playing multiple characters as a result. When we make changes to help address alts/WxP rank, we’ll make sure to specifically call out the change is to help address that issue.

Thank you Colin for a response on this issue. It was assumed or interpreted that this is why they were added, when all it did was increase the disparity between alts and mains, if the price of them was worth it (it is hard to get the right price for this, as too cheap is gonna create P2W cries, too expensive and no-one will buy them). Altoholics don’t have enough laurels to gear them up in ascended trinkets.

This boils down to character based wxp ranking.
Your team states that Wxp ranks were by character to allow different roles for different classes, for that have to worked you would have needed certain lines to lock out others or only have a finite amount of points to spend, because right now you can be a master of all. After implementation of Wxp you can’t go back because of how ‘good’ we have it. The only option we have left, which has been stated previously is Wxp rank be account bound, but the stat distribution character bound. The account-bound rank would be the aggregated Wxp earned. Is there a technical limitation which has stopped you from doing this?

The pushback from you guys is that just because your experienced in WvW with x class doesn’t mean your experienced with y class. But as ranks are hidden from teammates its not used as a gauge of experience, but instead used as buffs/abilities for time spent in wvw with said character.

tl;dr Thanks for response Colin, is the reason for not having implemented account based wxp a technical limitation? As i can’t think of a reason to not do it that way. If there is one, enlighten us Anet

Accountbound world ranks are bad. You are effectively leveling your account and not your representation in game (i.e. your character). I hope they never ever introduce account bound ranks.

So by that rationale, all currencies should be soul bound? All Magic find should be soul bound? All boosters should be soul bound on acquire? Any loot drops should be soul bound on acquire? All crafted gear should be soul bound on acquire? No account bound whatsoever? All of these are things that can be used to level a character.

Free transfers is in no way a direct solution to population issues. Nor is a server cap, since it can easily be bypassed by large guilds, even in tier 1 servers. I doubt there would be many who have been playing for 6+ months would disagree. Map caps on the other hand. Oh my, such a broken record I am.

Seras.5702:

Does anyone else see the irony of spending thousands and thousands of gold to attain a stat that will net you a marginally better chance at getting items of higher value? It seems counter-productive. Definitely a long-term payout.

If you place mass buy orders on the right things, you will actually make a profit. And now there is even more reason to do it with essence of luck to boost your accounts magic find. But it doesn’t seem like a large majority of players are focussed on this atm. Im pushing to get my magic find up through buy orders, but im not losing coin doing it from TP buy orders. But Im still making profits off most of these buy orders and I honestly thought that would not be possible if players were doing this in mass.

I had around 800 gold when I started doing this. I now have around 400 gold and about 400 gold worth of materials listed on the TP, which I am believe most if not all will sell over the weekend. I guess the one area Ive actually “lost profit” from is I spent around 3 million karma on greens which I put into the mystic forge and salvaged the returns, so I have “lost” 3 million karma on it.

I don’t think Im by any means ahead. I think there are probably some people who have or are about to hit 300MF. And these essences will have no use. So if I want to continue making profit from flipping for buy orders and salvaging them I am going to end up having to fill up my bank and then start deleting essences of luck. Despite the curve, I will be close to this by next weekend. And realizing this I came here expecting to see this issue being brought up already. We need more uses for our essences very soon or there are going to be serious storage issues for some people who like to flip things on the TP. We will either have to stop flipping these things for profit or we will have to delete these essences.

Doomdesire.9365:

Jet.4795:

I will say though that, People that talk about our big influx of guilds. SoR still has a very good chance of beating us. With SoR’s 2 EU guilds vs our 0. That will put our NA back to the test. So do not count out SoR they can put a lot of pressure on us during all timezones if they want to. Especially in EU/NA.

What happened to GD?

Also, to the BG posters underestimating the loss of MERC. Prior to losing MERC BG would tick at 400 PPT all week in a 1v1 against SoR. This week SoR’s SEA has ticked up to 500 PPT. If that’s not portraying the impact MERC had on the matchup, then nothing will.

The loss of MERC this week had a .001% effect on this weeks result. Most of that will not be there when things are adjusted. SOR outplayed us. They turned up to fight and showed us there full potential after a hiatus in T2. We were taking it easy and lost early and couldn’t pull back after that so we pretty much took the week off and did minimal WvW. We were complacent, but also have league in our minds. In the long run I believe the loss of MERC will actually be a good thing. I say that genuinely. This float team business is just bad for the game in the long term. Its all about stability and not doing OT every night. Overperforming every week with less numbers is bad for a server in the long run. Ask the leaders on your server. They would and have said the same things in the past and they are true.

Im expecting to be 300% MF in about a week (most likely next weekend) on current projections. Are there going to be other uses for essences of luck in the future? Or am I going to have to bank them with all those fractal rings or destroy them whenever I want to salvage something?