Guild Wars 2

I hate my teammates

metabattle is a good reference if you want to keep track of builds high tier tourney players use. having that site live is better than not.

For the amount of attention this replay has gotten, one would think red would win for a more epic ending. Was rooting for Red team, tbh. I like their comp more. No stacking eles plus they were the only ones that had a point and none were downed.

Too much of a big deal was made for the team already in the lead with 2 eles plus that 20 burn stacks that killed Red Lord

ugh those melee rangers are getting carried by their pets and taunt. it’s still a trashy class that’s always up to no good. if they melee, wait for that pet aoe and get taunted.

The ignorance on this thread is too much. I can’t believe people still rub in what they think they know and cant fully grasp the reality of what’s being explained.

It’s reflects on your lack of knowledge when you are quick to call someone a noob when you fail to understand the underlying message.

abc.5790:

Arantheal.7396:

Chorazin.4107:

So overall they got a lot more powerful.

^^^^this^^^^

I like how this abc guy is agreeing on condis getting more powerful without recognizing it…

….sigh omg.

You’ve lost track on what this was about. You are putting words in my mouth. That’s actually very rude. And it doesn’t change the fact that you were unaware of the difference in base damage. Pre patch no engie could deliver multiple STACKS of burning. You didn’t know that?

Anyway, this discussion was in relation to engie nades and celestial amulet not condition damage as a whole.

Damage from nades were reduced because condition damage got scaled back and NONE OF THE CONDITIONS from nades ever got stacked.

/end of discussion

Don’t get too worked up. It’s been said that the engie subforum has gone way downhill in recent times. Not all engies here do as much spvp as you guys so don’t expect everyone to know the most granular details.

style.6173:

Chapell.1346:

kamix.4713:

b) They run D/D – its worthless spec in this kind of meta

I disagree, D/D Thief has a lot of Traits and Utilities to choose for so that he can blend perfectly in conquest.

Trust me -

Nope,because of what you said about D/D being a worthless in Conquest.

No GOOD thief runs D/D in PvP. In WvW or PvE that is a completely different story.

As for the OP: I personally don’t even like having 1 thief on my team. The reason is that most thieves do not understand their role. Having 1 thief on your team and the other 4 can still carry if the opponent has a bad player. Having 2 thieves means the other 3 need to carry. It is much less likely to happen.

Of course, the top end thieves are valuable to their team. There just aren’t many of them.

I’m beginning to see that pattern man. Other classes could stack well like eles and thieves are the antithesis of eles. The only time I’ve won w/ 2 thieves is when someone dcn on enemy team.

In larger fights, thieves just die. So if you have 2 thieves in your team it’s really more like a 4v5.

IT’S UNFORTUNATE PPL IN-GAME DON’T READ FORUMS. I want to make it common and universal knowledge that 2 thieves suck and one of the thieves should swap ASAP.

…but they likely won’t

no joke there are ppl here that actually cry thief op nerf pls. thieves are nowhere near as annoying as rangers.

If you have a premade team and are going against multiple necros, you can play a couple condi heavy builds and abuse this bug like theres no tomorrow so that hopefully, they fix it.

Ok if not all the time a good 98%

Is it well known to PVPers that 2 thieves in team will end up losing? I don’t know if that’s a known fact but I sure did see the pattern.

I hate queuing for 6-7 min only to find out that there are 2 thieves in team.

If thieves themselves know that it sucks having 2, how come none of them are ever willing to swap?

Lastly, since I don’t play thief, what makes them suck if there are multiples?

Is it because of the class itself or the kind of people the class attracts. Someone in my team said if they see another LB2 animation, they’re gonna punch a baby.

And what’s more annoying the power or condi rangers?

I don’t play ranger but I made a character just out of curiosity. It’s a very straight forward class.

Or is it because scrubby noobs play it and are actually effective with little effort? Why are they called the bottom feeder class

mistsim.2748:

Saiyan.1704:

mistsim.2748:

I don’t disrespect the Abjured, but I do take issue with the balancing of this game. the Abjured has achieved everything with the double d/d ele + X comp. it’s not their fault the spec is broken. but they will abuse it to make money.

There hasn’t been another Abjured running 2 cele ele comp either.

There’s only certain aspects of the Ele that needs shaving. Doing so will not change their performance any, it’s more of a QoL fix.

Abjured is carried by wakkie and phanta. that’s all there is to it. the rest is gravy. d/d eles make this game dumb, and personally, I’m not even thinking of coming back until this garbage is resolved.

I feel like I’m the only NA person who cheered for EU. I didn’t like NA’s lineup and they’re boring to watch. Was looking forward to a tcg/orng final but the cheapness of the d/d eles won.

apharma.3741:

So to sum up the thread.

Jasher: NA is the best and would wipe the floor with EU because U.S.A. U.S.A. U.S.A.

Everyone else: Reasoned and logical arguments why this is completely false.

Jasher: Denied! [louder chanting] U!S!A! U!S!A! U!S!A!

Almost. Just substitute USA with Abjured then you have it.

I rest my case. This thread isn’t about NA as a whole but Abjured’s only fanboi going through an emotional roller coaster

Back on topic. The reason OP feels NA is disrespected is because the bond of the EU community is stronger and tighter. So, they watch out for one another and dismiss their rivals.

NA lacks a leader type persona that creates this bond. Top teams are in their own world and want little to do with everyone else.

USA is capitalistic (well not really it’s more like fascism with banks and large businesses pretty much make all the rules) and very competitive so ppl work longer hours, have fewer holidays, get paid less unless executive level. Scandinavia > EU because no Greece and made socialism work.

OE > Abjured

I don’t think this thread is about NA as a whole but a kitten Abjured fanboi

Now I understand how sometimes I get rezzed even if my team is downed.

So this is where all the random rezzes come from. I think most people have experienced this but have no idea how it happened and just move on along without knowing.

I think it’s ironic that necros are supposed be evil masters of the black arts but their community seem to be one of the most pleasant and least hostile. You can gauge that sorta thing by reading the posts under each class.

Instead of pushing for a nerf like everyone else, you will go further if you simply ask how to deal with certain builds.

Thank you all very much.

I appreciate all the friendly and constructive feedback and will definitely apply them in-game.

I don’t think necros are OP and believe they are the least OP out of all light armored classes. I just had a hard time dealing with one of the builds and would never cry for their nerf.

That’s fake. Sometimes I die that much in one match when going against a full premade

Been having a hard time with this necro build. They are so tanky and infinite HP.
How do you guys deal w/ this build?

What are the traits and armor that make this so tanky and hard to kill? I want to know so I learn how to counter but I don’t like this kind of game play

thank you

I play all 3 light armor classes and ele is by far the most superior overall. Mesmers have high damage and stealth but are glassy and vulnerable to condition dmg. Necros are even easier to defeat than mesmers. They have bad sustain, can’t escape, long cooldowns, skills have long cast times.

There’s no limit to the amount of rotations eles have access to. Necros will soon run out of the green stuff and they’re pretty useless w/o it.

You need to practice more.

Someone from my team was complaining about having 2 thieves and said before match started that we were gonna lose

We did lose but I don’t understand why it’s not good to have 2 thieves. Could it be that my team just got outplayed? I’ve also heard others say more than one thief isn’t good. But they seem to hit hard and have lots of stealth to just decap by point. I don’t get why people say they suck

That’s correct, I assumed it from the 6 straight matches with 0 engies. And to top that off, currently in my hotm map, guardians represent about 40% of the population.

Guess it’s your word against mine except that I use undeniable facts that certain professions are over-represented. Secondly, I posses absolutely no bias. Just concerned about PVP in general and prefer balance amongst all professions.

Took a break from the game and played for the first time this year when the major patch was released last week.

It overwhelmed me and the matches that ensued were pure chaos, but in a fun way. All professions were present as people discovered viable builds to play.

As things began to settle, I’ve noticed a huge decline of engineers and rangers in matches. It became noticeable in the last 2 days especially. Engineers had a bigger decline. Today, there were no engineers present in 6 straight matches.

I only play light armored classes but was aware that they used a bug with grenades. The bug is only a problem if I’m against a premade team. Otherwise, they weren’t a big threat even when they used the bug because most wouldn’t even land.

After the fix, why can’t engies play a different build? Are they really that dependent on grenades? Or is the class messed up?

I don’t know about rangers declining numbers.

The current distribution of professions look something like this:

30% guardians
20% mesmers
20% eles
15% warriors
5% thieves
5% necros
3% rangers
2% engies

Not healthy for pvp at all

I only play light armored classes but still I hope what this OP is saying isn’t true.