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30 30 10 Wurm runes
Effective Power 4904.61
Effective Health (EHP) 22027
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/thief/?7.0|8.1g.h2.8.1p.h17|c.1g.h2.8.1p.h17|1c.710.1g.710.1c.710.1g.710.1c.710.1g.710|2s.d13.2s.d13.3s.d17.3s.d17.2s.d13.2s.d13|0.u36c.u56b.a1.0|39.1|57.5c.5b.5h.0|e

30 30 10 Ogre runes
Effective Power 5007.59
Effective Health (EHP) 21734
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/thief/?7.0|8.1c.h2.8.1c.h17|c.1c.h2.8.1c.h17|1c.7b.1g.7b.1c.7b.1g.7b.1c.7b.1g.7b|2s.d13.2s.d13.3s.d17.3s.d17.2s.d13.2s.d13|0.u36c.u56b.a1.0|39.1|57.5c.5b.5h.0|e

30 30 10 Divinity runes
Effective Power 4982.48
Effective Health (EHP) 22011
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/thief/?7.0|8.1p.h2.8.1p.h17|c.1p.h2.8.1p.h17|1c.71j.1g.71j.1c.71j.1g.71j.1c.71j.1g.71j|2s.d13.2s.d13.3s.d17.3s.d17.2s.d13.2s.d13|0.u36c.u56b.a1.0|39.1|57.5c.5b.5h.0|e

Ya, Wurm and Ogre are both close, Wurm is further but maintains the crit rate, Ogre does more damage with less EHP, but is under 50% crit chance, and if you read about my food choices above, I use omnom ghosts, you’ll see why I dont agree with using Ogre. You need to keep your crit chance slightly above 50% no matter what IMO.

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Nice work, maybe I’ll overthink my current build as I got some new ideas through yours. This is the setup I’m currently heading for:

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/thief/?7.0|c.1c.h1h.8.1g.h2|8.1g.h1.8.1n.h17|1n.a7.1g.a7.1c.a7.1g.a7.1c.a7.1g.a7|4t.d1g.2v.d13.2u.d13.2s.d13.3t.d19.2u.d19|0.u36b.u64b.a0.0|39.7|57.5h.5c.5b.0|e

I didnt notice this post at first, sorry. But, the first thing I would do if I were you is remove the ascended soldiers backpiece. If youre using any berserker gear at all, ascended berserker back is the first thing you want to switch in. Its all about making effective trades for crit damage/defense and making sure all your gear has Power main stat IMO.
Effective Power 4806.14
Effective Health (EHP) 23487
Damage Reduction 29.92%
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/thief/?7.0|8.1c.h2.8.1c.h17|c.1c.h4.8.1c.h17|1c.71j.1g.71j.1c.71j.1g.71j.1c.71j.1g.71j|2s.d13.2t.d13.2s.d13.2t.d13.2s.d13.2s.d13|0.u36c.u46b.a1.0|39.1|57.5c.5b.5h.0|e
This build has very close to your EHP and more damage, I would suggest using it honestly. But, if you want to increase the EHP so its higher than yours and still maintains superior EP, just switch the boots to soldiers.

What runes do you recommend to sub for divinity’s? Surely there are stats that we focus on more than others.

I don’t view money as difficult to make in this game. So I would say to spend 2 hours a day over a week farming to buy 2 bloodlust sigils, a flame blast and 6 divinity runes. Do COF P1 3x a day on 2 characters with omnom bars, and do HOTW p1 once everyday on 2 characters. And within a week youd have enough for all that stuff. Just remember to let 2 hours pass between characters when you do the runs. If you have to, go to sleep an hour early every night, and wake up an hour early and do one set of runs before work, and the second after work. If you only have 1 80, then youd have to spend 2 weeks doing this to make enough. (Remember to use your tokens on cheap rare heavy armor and use salvage kits on those items for ectos)

I used Beryl orbs while farming btw.

Also, COF P1x3 and HotW p1 should take an hour to do, even if you use pick up groups acquired on GW2LFG.com like I do. I dont view this as asking to much of someone. Even with 1 80 its 1 hour a day for 2 weeks to acquire enough gold for all of those items. And thats if you do nothing else at all to make any money.

EDIT: Maybe I should talk about the reason I use divinity runes. I view them as +40 useful stats and +2% crit damage each. I dont think any other runes in the game offer as much. Even orbs (beryl) are only 35 useful stats with 2% crit damage. The only other runes I could see being useful are Lyssa/Melandru/Ogre

Edit again: Superior rune of the Wurm might not be horrible either.

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wish.1027

Todays topic of conversation from me is going to be food. Specifically Butternut Squash soup stuffs, and omnomberry ghosts. Is 350 life steal every 3rd hit better than 10% crit damage and 1 crit chance?

Before I begin with math and explinations, let me start by saying how I believe ghosts work, and if you have any difference of opinion or notice any mistakes I may have made, please point them out. When ghosts activate, they remove an extra 350 HP from your opponent and give it to you. Creating a 700 HP swing in your favor. I believe it works this way, because for awhile, you could kill buffed WvW camp supervisors with the effect from life steal foods. While this isnt exactly the same as doing 700 damage, it has the same effect in the end, because youre up 350 and your opponent is down 350. Ghosts state that they have a 66% chance to steal life on crit, if we have a 50% crit chance (its actually 59~ from the back and 52~ from the front), then we can half that number and get 33% or 1 in 3 hits steals life. Since we’re slightly above 50% than we’re slightly above 1 in 3 hits steals life (like 34%). If we look at the basic thief rotation, Backstab > auto attack > Cloak and Dagger, it’s 6 hits. So we’ll generate a 1400 HP swing in our favor using omnom ghosts on average. (2 procs for 350 each, so 350*2=700 HP stolen, which means 700 gained as well, 700+700=1400)

When fighting something like a guardian with big defense and protection, the answer is that omnom ghosts obviously win. The less damage you do overall to your target the more useful a static damage increase number becomes over a % modifier. The question is when do they balance out and when does butternut curry become better.

To start with, lets determine the damage increase from 10% crit damage and 1% crit chance. To do this, we’ll take our damage (1) and multiply it by none-critchance (42 with ghosts) and take our crit damage (crits are +50% damage (1.5) to start, and we have 102 crit damage without curry so 2.52) and multiply it by our critchance (58 with ghosts) then add them together. Then we’ll divide that into the the same thing but with butternut squash’s stats added. This will give us a 1.xxxxx number, where xxxxx is the % increase.

So it looks like this:
(1*.42) + (2.52*.58)=1.8816
(1*.41) + (2.62*.59)=1.9558
1.9558/1.8816=1.0394345~
Or simply speaking, a 3.9% damage increase from +1 crit chance and +10% crit damage.

Now what we need to do is determine how much you need your rotation to hit for, for a 3.9% damage increase to be 1400 damage. To start, rather than determine what our averages would be or anything else, lets just use high end numbers and see what happens. Lets say our BS does 10k, auto attacks hit for 2k then 3k, and CnD does 5k. This is what you can expect to hit an uplevel or GC for in my experiance with crits, so we’ll go with this. But keep in mind, against a target with a clue, your numbers wont be this high, and the lower these numbers, the worse off butternut squash is.
10,000+2,000+3,000+3,000+5,000=23,000

23,000*1.0395=23908
Which is an 908 damage increase per rotation. Which is more than Ghosts actually just steal, but not by much. If you gain health from them, the ghosts clearly win, even when we use “Im attacking a glass cannon” type numbers for our damage.

Conclusion
So we know that butternut squash soup stuff is the best food for effective power increase, and we can see that if you take any damage at all omnom ghosts beat it, even when dealing with uplevels and glass cannons. So we have to base this on playstyle really. If you take any damage at all while fighting stuff, ghosts win. If you take 0 damage ever, Squash wins if youre fighting weak stuff. If all you do is CnD dagger and BS stuff, and nothing else, Squash wins.

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Math is your friend.

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wish.1027

My build. On full bloodlust its even more.

We’re just assuming everyone knows to have a second weapon set that includes bloodlust sigils, and not talking about it.

Your trinkets (except 1)
Effective Power 4821.67
Effective Health (EHP) 23170
Damage Reduction 27.03%
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/thief/?7.0|8.1p.h2.8.1p.h17|c.1p.h4.8.1p.h17|1c.71j.1c.71j.1c.71j.1g.71j.1c.71j.1g.71j|2t.d13.2t.d13.3s.d17.2t.d13.2s.d13.2s.d13|0.u36c.u46b.a1.0|39.1|57.5c.5b.5h.0|e

Not your trinkets
Effective Power 4806.14
Effective Health (EHP) 23487
Damage Reduction 29.92%
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/thief/?7.0|8.1c.h2.8.1c.h17|c.1c.h4.8.1c.h17|1c.71j.1g.71j.1c.71j.1g.71j.1c.71j.1g.71j|2s.d13.2t.d13.2s.d13.2t.d13.2s.d13.2s.d13|0.u36c.u46b.a1.0|39.1|57.5c.5b.5h.0|e

The toughness is lower in both of these, (Hense the lower damage reduction ) but I increased your overall EHP and damage. Also, I preffer the second set. Maybe use 1 valk weapon and 1 soldiers weapon if you want less EHP, here’s what it looks like with that:
Effective Power 4871.45
Effective Health (EHP) 22914
Damage Reduction 28.17

Good combination of Soldier’s and Berserker armor/weapons, though this set is ridiculously expensive to obtain because of the divinity runes and fire sigils.

And you didnt even notice how much the foods cost!

I’m not trying to one-up you or anything like that

Please, one up me. This is what I found to be the best, and if it’s not I want to know what is so I can switch.

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Math is your friend.

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Is there a counter to P/D Thieves 1v1?

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Bleeding is always removed first.

Not according to the wiki, it isn’t.

For generic condition removal, the most recently applied condition or conditions will be removed first.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Condition_removal#Skills_that_remove_conditions

Ya, someone else said that to me once too.

So I went to sPVP and tested it. Bleeding was removed first even when applied before 2 other conditions. And I have always had it removed first every time Ive ever used a condition remover and paid attention.

(I also swear I once saw a post by a DEV about how they were changing the removal order.)

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Well I never really knew if this was for WvW (if so how large the encounters) or sPvP, however I do run scholar runes (with a more glassy build) with a soldier set and it does work quite effectively. Edit: In WvW.

Its just for discussion of balanced builds. I dont really care if you use it in PVE or WvW though. sPVP dont have any of the gear I listed in the builds, or the foods though, lol.

this thread is for discussion of balanced builds to determine the best possible stat combination.

I simply pointed out that the only time it really matters (WvW when youre fighting someone worth half a crap) you wont gain the scholar rune benefit since you wont instagib them and theyll hit you back. For PVE I’d advise full berserker and scholar runes though.

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Fire is because its AOE, and Im always fighting more than 1 person. But youre right, for 1on1 Lightning strike is better.

As for the Scholar runes, its a nice try, but seriously, even taking 1 hit, you wont be above 90% HP, and then that builds Effective Power drops to 4879, and it loses. When fighting skilled players (when it matters) you will not gain that benefit, and I refuse to use stuff that is to uncontrollably situational like that. I assume most people agree with me as well, for those that dont though, or those that dont take damage ever, your suggestion is very good. Your rune choice is for the instagibbing thieves of the world. But come back at me with another try, thats the only way we will learn and progress.

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Math is your friend.

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wish.1027

Anything that can spam condition removal.
Bleeding is always removed first.
A guardian with decent tankyness and the shouts convert conditions to boons trait and at least stand your ground/hold the line cant die to this type of thief unless you play kinda bad or they do some trickery.

Also, a D/D thief or D/P thief should easily be able to kill them or make them run away, depending on skill.

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Mixing Sentinel's with Soldiers

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Any survivability gains would come at a very steep cost in damage.

Really can’t agree with this.

I think we’re talking about 2 different things. I was saying its not worth changing his all Pvt gear setup to Vpt gear if he ever wants to win a fight. Youre talking about berserker gear.

And if you think my thread is impressive now, just wait, it’s gonna get better. (*’-’)b Cause thats not actually the food I use, I have what I believe to be better stuff, but the math isnt done yet.

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And please for the love of God delete Last Refuge from the game.

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Mixing Sentinel's with Soldiers

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Any survivability gains would come at a very steep cost in damage. I dont even agree with you using all Pvt gear honestly. Vpt gear is completely out of the question IMO. Unless you dont actually want to ever kill anyone ever, in which case, knock yourself out.

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wish.1027

Final Builds:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Post-Your-Build-Thread/page/3#post2426220

Original Thread Post Start Here:
Let me start by saying this:
This thread is not for calling out Yishis, his set is very good, and what I imagine a lot of D/D thieves use because of his popularity. I’m just trying to determine what gear would give the best stat distribution, since other things dont matter so much, on D/D Thief. Effective power also does not mean backstabs are going to hit harder, it means your overall damage is going to be better. If all you do is try and instagib people, this thread is not for you, this thread is for discussion of balanced builds to determine the best possible stat combination.

So, funny story. I was browsing the forums, and I saw this thread:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Is-this-build-site-s-math-off/first#post2196154
Which includes a link to a build. The link was to a build website that includes an Effective HP and Effective power tally after you type in your build. So I thought, hey thats cool, I should type in what Im using currently and see what it says, then compare it to whatever else I can find. So I compared it to the only 2 things I could think of, Yishis D/D build (upgraded it to better food and all ascended gear (he was missing 1 accessory, I copied his rings for what stats to put on it) and the one the guy originally linked.

Here’s the results
Wish’s Mug (10 30 30 0 0)
Effective Power 5059.44
Effective Health (EHP) 21715
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/thief/?7.0|8.1c.h2.8.1c.h17|c.1c.h2.8.1c.h17|1c.71j.1g.71j.1c.71j.1g.71j.1c.71j.1g.71j|2s.d13.2s.d13.3s.d17.3s.d17.2s.d13.2s.d13|a3.u36c.u56b.0.0|39.1|57.5c.5b.5h.0|e

Wish’s Fall (0 30 30 10 0)
Effective Power 4982.48
Effective Health (EHP) 22011
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/thief/?7.0|8.1p.h2.8.1p.h17|c.1p.h2.8.1p.h17|1c.71j.1g.71j.1c.71j.1g.71j.1c.71j.1g.71j|2s.d13.2s.d13.3s.d17.3s.d17.2s.d13.2s.d13|0.u36c.u56b.a1.0|39.1|57.5c.5b.5h.0|e

Yishis Build (0 30 30 10 0)
Effective Power 4956.98
Effective Health (EHP) 21230
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/thief/?7.0|8.1g.h14.8.1g.h2|5.1g.h4|1p.71j.1p.71j.1p.71j.1p.71j.1p.71j.1p.71j|3s.d17.2s.d14.2t.d14.2s.d14.2t.d14.2s.d14|0.u36c.u56b.a1.0|40.1|57.5a.5b.5c.0|e

Angus Build (0 30 30 10 0)
Effective Power 4009.03
Effective Health (EHP) 23860
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/thief/?7.3|8.1g.h14.8.1g.h1d|5.1o.h2|1p.710.1p.710.1p.710.1p.710.1p.710.1p.710|4s.0.1p.61.1p.61.1p.61.1p.61.1c.61|0.u63c.u46b.a1.0|5y.7|57.5c.5b.5h.5v|e

So I successfully managed to beat both sets of numbers on Yishis’ build with 10/30/30 and 30/30/10, and managed to gain 25% damage for a 10%~ loss in HP compared to the other, and I was wondering if a better set existed or if these were really going to be it. The objective in my mind is to sit around 21-22k EHP (as I find 21k to be about the magic number where you can avoid getting instagibbed) and have as much damage as you can get. Any input/insight/etc is greatly appreciated. Let’s get the best set for this nailed down so we can all instigate more QQ’s when we win those 1v5s against bads.

After this, we can talk about D/P, but I assume the gear there will end up being the same as whatever is determined to be the best for the 0 30 30 10 0 set.

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Honestly, the only thing I find strange with Thief is that you can HS through a smoke field and hit something and still gain stealth.

Im still waiting for mightytroll to tell me why thief is so blatantly OP in WvW though. Cause ya know, thieves can break down keep doors in 3 seconds solo and then solo keep lords in 10 seconds.

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Ive run into a few mesmers who I couldnt down even after fighting them for 5-6 minutes. You’ll run into these people sometimes, the best thing you can do is start to recognize them, and then ignore them and go do something else. But I find s/d vastly better for fighting them than d/d or d/p or p/d.

I dont stealth much though for the super tanky clone mesmers, just use 2 to move in and out and auto attack them from behind where they cant fight back while bound. Just doing things that are out of the ordinary generally throws people completely off, and is good for lulz.

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Again? Ok. When exactly was stealth nerffed ?

Originally there was no revealed debuff, and reveal was bumped up to 4 seconds, which it still is in sPVP. In WvW/PVE its back to 3 seconds though.

I’m guessing you are a d/p thief, am I right? lol

The correct answer is Guardian. As stated in my sig. Reading is hard I know =[ But if you cant even counter a thief I guess reading a sig is going to be difficult too.

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Oh look, it’s one of those Guardians.

fixed that for you. Cause ya know, reading my sig is hard.

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How Thief *SHOULD* work

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I disappointed that you think Devs read that. I’m also disappointed that you feel you needed to post that.

And you think the Devs will read this?
lol….

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Thief is blatantly overpowered in WvW

Youre just a bad player if you cant handle thieves.

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Im disappointed people dont use the appropriate thread for QQing.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/The-thief-and-its-gameplay-Your-feedback-Merged

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wish.1027

I like the word Ninja

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Stealth has to reward you the better YOU are

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I can get on board with this, as long as they completely remove the revealed debuff. Hows that sound to you? Also, QQ moar.

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I understand that you’re mad about dieing to thieves all the time, but seriously, take your QQ somewhere else and stop making QQ threads in the thief forum.

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6/7 DragonBrand/Blackgate/Jade Quarry

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I can assure you RE have absolutely no hard feelings to EMP or our former allies on JQ at all. All the hate and misgivings are completely one way. But that just shows the difference in class and attitudes between us and the people constantly bad mouthing.

How about a show of good faith then. Send back all the gold your leaders stole from EMP when they abonded them. After that have Raw and Lee publicly apologize for all the bad things they said about people when they left. Til then, I can assure you, most of JQ will attack DB and RE esspecially every chance it has. You want to set things right? Thats a good place to start. Don’t come in here acting all high and mighty and better than everyone on JQ when you are the ones that started the drama in the first place.

Also I think this difference in class and attitude is more aptly shown by the fact that there are about 8 servers in this thread hating on DB. Your community must really pee in a lot of peoples of cheerios to make this possible.

LOL what? Ok first off, I am not [RE]/Noodles/Lee … so you can insert your good faith somewhere dark. BUT if I was [RE] first of all I would ask you to post proof of said gold theft and then I would ask you to post proof of ‘all the bad things’ Lee and Noodles said about ‘everyone’ on JQ and then, even if you did post proof of these two things (which you wont)! I would probably tell you to man up and stop whining. Crying constantly about how the bad man hurt your feels is just a sad sight to see.

Saying all that I could not give a single solitary kitten about you or the rest of your whiney troop of leftovers. I went to DB because I paid for the game and so did the rest of us that left. When you feel you want to pay for our computer games and any subsequent costs thereafter then come talk to us.

<3

Spread the love sweethearts. Miss you loads xxxx

Im not in EMP, so I wont be posting proof of anything, I was simply pointing out your hypocrisy. Claiming to be the bigger, better people, when all youve done is steal and lie and say bad things about others. But I do think your most recent post is indicative of your groups class and how superior your values are to everyone elses. I was simply suggesting ways for you to smooth it over if thats what you truly want to do. The fact you got so bent out of shape about it proves Im right.

Ohhh I see. So you are posting about something you know absolutely nothing about. Ok you should clarify that you know nothing before posting. That way people can immediately dismiss your post before reading.

Thanks.

Everyone on JQ knows what happened. The people who stayed behind held a meeting with everyone on TS when Raw didnt show up for the second time and explained it to us. Trying to discredit anyone on JQ in this way simply doesn’t work.

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I can assure you RE have absolutely no hard feelings to EMP or our former allies on JQ at all. All the hate and misgivings are completely one way. But that just shows the difference in class and attitudes between us and the people constantly bad mouthing.

How about a show of good faith then. Send back all the gold your leaders stole from EMP when they abonded them. After that have Raw and Lee publicly apologize for all the bad things they said about people when they left. Til then, I can assure you, most of JQ will attack DB and RE esspecially every chance it has. You want to set things right? Thats a good place to start. Don’t come in here acting all high and mighty and better than everyone on JQ when you are the ones that started the drama in the first place.

Also I think this difference in class and attitude is more aptly shown by the fact that there are about 8 servers in this thread hating on DB. Your community must really pee in a lot of peoples of cheerios to make this possible.

LOL what? Ok first off, I am not [RE]/Noodles/Lee … so you can insert your good faith somewhere dark. BUT if I was [RE] first of all I would ask you to post proof of said gold theft and then I would ask you to post proof of ‘all the bad things’ Lee and Noodles said about ‘everyone’ on JQ and then, even if you did post proof of these two things (which you wont)! I would probably tell you to man up and stop whining. Crying constantly about how the bad man hurt your feels is just a sad sight to see.

Saying all that I could not give a single solitary kitten about you or the rest of your whiney troop of leftovers. I went to DB because I paid for the game and so did the rest of us that left. When you feel you want to pay for our computer games and any subsequent costs thereafter then come talk to us.

<3

Spread the love sweethearts. Miss you loads xxxx

Im not in EMP, so I wont be posting proof of anything, I was simply pointing out your hypocrisy. Claiming to be the bigger, better people, when all youve done is steal and lie and say bad things about others. But I do think your most recent post is indicative of your groups class and how superior your values are to everyone elses. I was simply suggesting ways for you to smooth it over if thats what you truly want to do. The fact you got so bent out of shape about it proves Im right.

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Whats a bubble?

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SoR has won tier1 NA for a few weeks in a row now. we’re the strongest server atm. then wham bam! we’re forced down to fight servers who don’t stand a chance. we had 3 waypointed garrisons when I logged on this morning and we’re currently ticking 500+. seriously anet. you messed up. BIG TIME. revert this nonsense and start actually listening to what the PLAYERS who PLAY wvw are actually saying needs done!

I agree, something should be done. We should have the #1 EU server fight the #1 NA server every week, that would give them good matchups.

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I can assure you RE have absolutely no hard feelings to EMP or our former allies on JQ at all. All the hate and misgivings are completely one way. But that just shows the difference in class and attitudes between us and the people constantly bad mouthing.

How about a show of good faith then. Send back all the gold your leaders stole from EMP when they abonded them. After that have Raw and Lee publicly apologize for all the bad things they said about people when they left. Til then, I can assure you, most of JQ will attack DB and RE esspecially every chance it has. You want to set things right? Thats a good place to start. Don’t come in here acting all high and mighty and better than everyone on JQ when you are the ones that started the drama in the first place.

Also I think this difference in class and attitude is more aptly shown by the fact that there are about 8 servers in this thread hating on DB. Your community must really pee in a lot of peoples cheerios to make this possible.

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Oh Wish, explain to me if you were super stacked when you got all your gold medals for winning tier 1? Pot Kettle Black at all? Especially as you guys worked hard to recruit us as well when in second spot!

When JQ was winning NA T1 JQ had lots of Sea and NA players, and thats it, thats the way JQ has been for a long time, and at the time no one really had any EU players, or super late night NA players. When Iron was thinking of moving JQ had already lost a bunch of it’s NA people, and BG had already gotten a bunch of new people who played during EU time, so of course JQ wanted to recruit you. Having played on Desolation with you guys for a bit when you were in T2 I personally thought it would be fun to play with you again, but because of that, I recognized exactly what would happen if you moved to any of the NA servers. You’d roll over everything and take it all. Which is exactly what I told you. I also told you that you’d need to recruit other EU guilds for the other servers you did not go to, or you wouldnt really have anything to do aside from PVD. Complaining about it now just makes you look sad IMO, since I know for a fact I told your rep on JQ all this ahead of time.

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This way of matching servers is 100% worse than the old system, it is nonsensical in every way. What is so wrong with one up one down? It would work better than both the old and current systems of matching servers.

Really, you have start thinking about the people that play WvW. Not only have you made arrows carts game breaking and unmanageable, you’ve now managed to alienate players further by creating unreasonable match-ups that allow for even more stomping of outmanned players, and that’s without brinGing in the initial design flaw of how the points system works. Neither of the other servers in my servers match-up alone stand a chance, we will run them over all week, driving more people away from WvW and ultimately the game.

Maybe if you didnt super stack a server and turn it into the NA version of vizunah, which you guys left EU to get away from, you wouldnt be complaining. I told you guys before you left EU to come to NA that you needed to recruit other EU guilds to go to the other servers. You really should of listened.

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Finally I get to PWN raw.

I love you anet!

Thats only assuming RE doesnt rage quit the map right after bragging about holding their garrison, then losing it.

This post>

[RE] respectfully invite both blackgate and JQ into our garrison. We welcome any fights.

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love how we get a gom zerg of 20-30+ 4 times in a row plus siege for 5 players then a certain gom squire named yoinked has the balls to talk kitten

You sound mad. You should be happy your team aroused such anger with the GOM community they came to take you out in force.

One day, man. One day, I’mma getchu.

Earlier in the day is fine.
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I now see how big my Norn thief is and how easy it is to be targeted when I’m revealed.

Dear ANet, please address this so Norn thieves are harder to target so that I never die.

Thanks.

Smallest human girl possible is the best. Youre the second shortest (second hardest to target) and you get to be cute, and omgunderboobz.

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I suspect when wish says “that one thief” he means “It was me all along!”

+1, but I said earlier in the thread it was me, and posted a screenshot.

a perma-stealth thief

My only stealth was my heal, because the others suck a lot.

Hey, I remember you! I’m level 80 now! We’re supposed to duel, aren’t we? XP

Youre not online.

But I will be in 3 hours! xD

Guild stuff thursday/friday/saturday/sunday from like 8pm EST til I fall asleep, sorry.

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I suspect when wish says “that one thief” he means “It was me all along!”

+1, but I said earlier in the thread it was me, and posted a screenshot.

a perma-stealth thief

My only stealth was my heal, because the others suck a lot.

Hey, I remember you! I’m level 80 now! We’re supposed to duel, aren’t we? XP

Youre not online.

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I suspect when wish says “that one thief” he means “It was me all along!”

+1, but I said earlier in the thread it was me, and posted a screenshot.

a perma-stealth thief

My only stealth was my heal, because the others suck a lot. Im being stupid and playing bad specs for lulz right now, i.e., find me and Im free bags.

EDIT: Shadow refugee too.

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They are there so that thieves can aggro them all and then stealth to train them on you giving them the advantage in a fight… and then if they ever need to escape the random animals provide a free CnD so that they can stealth away.

This.
I love dragging mesmers into large groups of red mobs. It takes away his NPC advantage because now I have my own army of minions! hahahahaha

Seriously, I mean this. You should try it.

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Hey friends, here is some footage of Purimm and I, this time from my (guardian) point of view. The skill level of the smaller groups in this tier has been higher so nothing too jaw dropping.

You should of uploaded the stuff after this where that one thief trolls you guys, I would of liked to have seen what saw and known what you were thinking.

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And to your point about zergs not needing to stop to kill Dolyaks (which is true), it still kills just one dolyak. While a solo Thief may take 10 seconds or so to kill one, with enough Thieves (I think someone put the number at 10 or so) you can shut down all supply lines on a map. Even a 100 person zerg cannot do that.

Three people can kill all the dolyaks.
One for NE/East side of North, one for NW/West side of North, one for the three South camps. The one playing in the south doesnt have much time to mess around, but it can be done pretty easily if you ignore all the fights.

And grats to the OP for finally getting it. The first thing I did when I really started getting into WvW was die to thieves, so I rolled one to figure out how they work, and now I have no trouble with them. After all, thats what people who care and want to succeed will do, learn about the things you have problems with.

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Bad thieves are so much fun to kill, but really, I like the QQing they bring from bads of other professions more. I cant decide if I like tears of people who cant deal with HS spam or tears of PVE players who die in WvW jump puzzles more.

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I go with mug simply because it activates my bask venom when I steal. So it’s a gap closer that makes them stop moving for a second. It makes Cnd > Steal > Backstab easymode, or makes them waste their stun break.

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Wish, if you’ve played guardian for any amount of time, you should know they’re not free bags and are close to ez mode compared to other classes. I have an alt guardian and, compared to my main engineer, the guard is so much easier (In b4 l2p-I think, and have been told numerous times, that I do pretty well with my engineer and am a pain in the kitten to fight).

If you want someone to fight, send me a tell and I’d be glad to do so, provided I’m not needed elsewhere. Hell, who am I kidding, no one wants engineers

Engineer is OP, you just spec wrong if you dont think so.

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I was wondering why he’d never sit still when I bask venomed or rooted him, lol. BTW Im the person who was playing sword thief and fought you guys solo for 5 minutes til the other 2 arrived when you were running from me at ruins. It was a good time til you guys got scared and used the legendary defenders to stay alive.

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Thieves shouldn’t complain about people running from them. You can’t beat them. You can only pull a draw 1v1. Bring your zerg or ignore them.

I was on Guardian, I thought people looked at them as free bags…

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Hello Wish,

Apologies but most of us had to run to the TW commander on duty in SOR BL at that time. Our commanders are extremely strict on mission command & control and they expect us to adhere strictly to set timings for keep/tower attacks. We have to follow engagement rules as dictated by the guild rules & regulation charter.

Perhaps you could PM us and we’ll try to arrange a 1v1?

FW

Seriously, why is everyone from TW so bad?
Ive found 6 of your players in the last hour or so alone, and every single one ran from me until 4+ other TW players were around. Except 1 asuran guardian, props to you, but man, you guys are pretty bad. I moved to SOR BL solo to find some good fights, since thats all TW ever brags about. Turns out all they can do is win with numbers, who knew.

Pryan already gave him a shot. He’s just walking in circles now.

Was that the TW guardian I showed up? lol, I remember that guy.

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wvw is for solo play ??? maybe they were trying to get back to there group who was takin a keep or something

Naw, nothing was happening, they were just running for their life, cause TW is just a bad zerg guild. /calls out TW

Also, Ive avoided being killed every time except one, because I was fighting a 1v2 and the other 3 guys were just watching, so I didnt think Id need to snowleopard and run, but then 4 more showed up and attacked me, cause you know, theyre bad and couldnt stand that I was winning a 1v2 against their guys.

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Its fine as long as you do not mind dying. You will die alot to 3+ man groups if you are solo due to not being able to kite and not having enough to secure multiple stomps. You will also almost never get away from groups of 5+.

If you roll Norn guardian and use snowleopard form elite, you can dodge zergs and large groups even while engaged in combat easily, and effortlessly 90% of the time. Simply hit F2, F3, 0, hit 5, press and hold 4, then dodge roll twice while continuing to run, then hit 3, then hit 5 then WP. You will have broken combat by the end of the first “hold down 4” if you have 0 conditions on, if you did still have conditions on, simply hold down 4 again at this point. Ive easily gotten away from 80+ man zergs while in the middle of fighting 2-3 other guys with this. It’s amazing and youre doing yourself a disservice by playing anything other than Norn Guardian to solo roam in WvW.

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The way you kill all those uplevels is inspiring, how do you manage such incredible feats of bravery with level 80’s attacking you!? I cant help but wonder how you managed to kill the level 80s after because you kept stopping the video right when the interesting parts should be occuring.

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Save Yourselves:
Ability should grant stability also.

Beyond that… whatever, Guardian is amazing. I guess we could use a passive speed buff though, how about adding 25% movement speed to the -10% damage signet, give us both on one signet! Thanks.

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QQ moar, your tears are delicious and increase my stealth duration.

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Dear Darkhaven Necro and Guardian,

Please stop hiding in an invulnerable spot being cowards, I need my last 2 daily kills. Are you really that afraid of a 2v1 where you have the two? Worst server ever, wheres DR?
(I also figured out why my edit/delete/quote/etc buttons were gone, I had to allow cloudfront from no script, lol)

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You should just get a total makeover kit and make your human a girl.

Real thieves know its all about the underboob.

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