Guild Wars 2

kevinskyrider.3271:

I think we all understand JQ’s current situation because we’ve all experienced it at some point. At least try to remain respectful.

Ya guys, it could totally be worse, we could have people dropping flame rams everywhere and smashing our golems….. oh wait…

Silas.8630:

wish.1027:

Silas.8630:

Hoots.9564:

Ouch, 60 ppt during NA primetime. R.I.P. BG
-May 6th, 2013 03:24

I’ll just leave this here:

JQ at 110 towards the end of EU, when JQ never really had an EU presence… whats your point?

The point…you have completely and utterly missed it.

Thats why I ask what it was… because its obviously to cleaver for me to get it.

Silas.8630:

Hoots.9564:

Ouch, 60 ppt during NA primetime. R.I.P. BG
-May 6th, 2013 03:24

I’ll just leave this here:

JQ at 110 towards the end of EU, when JQ never really had an EU presence… whats your point?

covenn.7165:

I see you are a thief apparently from another post

Nakoor.1980:

I’m up for this challenge, that is if you won’t run away.

Im in BG BL ATM and down for some duels (Unless youre a super defensive run away bleed thf/ele/engineer, in which case neither of us will win unless youre bad)
wish.3102

As long as you dont try and fight with the zerg and rally the enemy every time theres a battle by dieing, no one will care.

AndrewSX.3794:

nothing.7941:

Change that daily to x yak escorts. pve’s help their server’s wvw effort and get daily without screwing over their server, win-win.

+1

/12chars

+2

LetoII.3782:

wish.1027:

LetoII.3782:

You have the same issue in SoRbl that JQ does, it’s the wolf den.
We, along with our steadfast Rallians stomp the everliving crud from any guild fool enough to set foot in the sanctum till they ragequit. ^.^

I find this comment funny since every single time Ive ever found anyone from TW or TWL alone in a 1vs1 and once even a me vs2 they ran from me to their tower/keep/zerg for safety because they cant fight.

Says the guy who thinks fail stacking bleeds and resetting for 20 minutes is a good duel

My guardian can fail stack bleeds and reset?

Also, some sound logic was once laid out that said “The weekends are what show server skill, as everyone is on equal footing, and everyone has Q’s on every map.” And I never disagree’d with them, its a good argument. BG was behind by like 30k after the weekend, lets see if they can pick that up this reset, or if all they can do is PvDoor their way to victory.

LetoII.3782:

You have the same issue in SoRbl that JQ does, it’s the wolf den.
We, along with our steadfast Rallians stomp the everliving crud from any guild fool enough to set foot in the sanctum till they ragequit. ^.^

I find this comment funny since every single time Ive ever found anyone from TW or TWL alone in a 1vs1 and once even a me vs2 they ran from me to their tower/keep/zerg for safety because they cant fight.

So… you can find time to create and add traps to WvW, but not an NPC who offers ascended items for badges?

Whats the deal?

Masamoon.3864:

King of the Castle yet again.

Your thief is ugly, you should reroll and be a cute smallesthumangirlpossible thief like all the cool kids.

sielfiel.4692:

in 9 weeks JQ won 7, BG won 2.

whos the Vizunah now?

We all know why BG won one of those weeks, and the other week, the most recent one, is after BG absorbed KN. If you just look at what happens during EU time its pretty obvious BG has 2-3x the number of players JQ and SOR have. It’s not really a big deal, and I doubt anyone on JQ feels bad about it. We’ll (mostly) continue to do our thing and play for fun when we feel like it, and if we come in second, it wont matter, because we’re use to it. Please remember JQ has been in T1 pretty much since the beginning, and has lost most of those matches.

Also, I find it odd anyone would call BG, the server who isnt even winning right now, Vizunah. How you gonna call the second place server VZ? lol

And lastly, underboob 4tw. I missed my THF while it was on time out, Im glad its not stupid anymore.

Go with something with shouts and maxing boon duration.

When I play my thief in WvW those white mobs come in handy, please dont hate on them, I need them to help me sneak up on people.

Killtrox.2019:

Dat camp spawn on SoRBL. Touche…touche.

According to you RISE is the best guild ever, why dont you just push out and kill them and take the whole map? I notice BG has nothing on SORBL, if youre here, I have to wonder why.

awesomesauce.5980:

wish.1027:

Voicer.8239:

And for those that scream with proud before: “BG is not T1 material!! BG is imploding!!!!”

I have one thing to ask:

Suuup?

BG was impolding at the time and was on their way to T2. They ate another server and now are no longer imploding, but that does not mean they were doing fine 2 weeks ago. Your comment is kind of stupid.

JQ’s PVE forces would also like to thank Kaineng as they can now all easily get blue vistas and POIs apparently. So I guess the question now is “how long til sea of black kainengs implodes!?!”

Actually the more interesting question is how far will JQ fall now that both EMP and FoO have left? They’ve now lost first place (not just the week, the rank) and all the fair weather players are going to abandon ship (either to PvE or to another server). The easy wins appear to be gone, so the buffer of players they enjoyed from that are a luxury no longer around and the guilds are going to have to work harder to stay in tier one, let alone win it. That’s something a lot of JQ isn’t used to. It’s going to get ugly (you can see the frustration on GW2Guru already) and as hard as the guilds might try to make up for the loss of numbers, people get sick of over time.

Rush to recruit because if the dominoes keep falling like they have been these last few weeks, the next time JQ will be green might be in tier two.

I know youre new, having just bandwagoned to BG and all, so I’ll tell you something funny. JQ lost in T1 pretty much since the game launched til 2 months ago. Losing now isnt going to change much about the server, theres still just going to be a bunch of guilds with low numbers and tons of PVE people who run from fights half the time. Even if 3 servers super stacked and we went to T2 I doubt the JQ community would change much.

But I did hear about a devious plan for all of JQ to move to BG and clog up their Q’s til they get tired of it and disperse. On the even more positive side, this will also give us lots of room to recruit more guilds before we all ninja transfer back in the middle of the night when theres like 4 people playing.

Aberrant.6749:

bad stuff

You need to delete that post right now before people see it.

Voicer.8239:

And for those that scream with proud before: “BG is not T1 material!! BG is imploding!!!!”

I have one thing to ask:

Suuup?

BG was impolding at the time and was on their way to T2. They ate another server and now are no longer imploding, but that does not mean they were doing fine 2 weeks ago. Your comment is kind of stupid.

JQ’s PVE forces would also like to thank Kaineng as they can now all easily get blue vistas and POIs apparently. So I guess the question now is “how long til sea of black kainengs implodes!?!”

Since I see DEV comments Im going to throw this in this thread.

Please make alive enemies names red, downed enemies names purple, and dead enemies names black. Thank you.

Kubb.9764:

Anyways, arguments are pointless among players. After all, it is ultimately ANet who decides anything

I agree, we should continue to push for that ranger nerf we all know is needed.

Chaba.5410:

wish.1027:

with retaliation and might stacks because youre initiating the fight and you can buff then charge.

Lemme stack might to buff up the per-hit damage on my 10x hit channel skill and kill myself faster. Maybe it’ll only take half a button press this time.

Having might on yourself makes your retaliations you inflict on them do more damage and it makes you do more damage, so it skews the curve in your favor. You down them faster and take less from their retaliation because you have to hit them less basically. I know, it’s a hard concept to grasp, but it seriously works very well. You should try it yourselves sometimes instead of just repeatedly dieing to it.

light fields > blast finishers, then fire fields > blast finishes into your stacked group, then charge dropping viels in front of the exit, as shown in the video. Learning tactics and bettering your server to be able to fight is part of learning to play. So is learning to run your zerg around null fields, when to use stabilities, how to kite til their might/retal stacks wear off, etc.

Kubb.9764:

What’s voice chat?

mumble/teamspeak/ventrillo

Kubb.9764:

L2P is not always the problem. We all know HOW to not get insta gibbed by retaliation. The problem is the punishment is too severe.

Its like 300 damage a hit, if you cant take 300 damage a hit and win a fight when they take 400 and you hit for at least 30% more damage than them… then there’s no hope for you, you should just quit the game or jump to a better server.

VOLKON.1290:

Kai.9182:

VOLKON.1290:

Kai.9182:

Melamorte.2870:

Kai.9182:

JQ trying for more transfers? You can’t be serious…

Pay attention. Maybe your server can learn something…

No thanks I don’t enjoy queues. With the way JQ runs I may as well play CoD kitten zombies.

Edit: sorry to all zombies in call of duty for comparing you to jq players

Queues? We’ve been running with the out-manned buff on at least 2 BLs this week.

Yeah keep telling yourself to make you feel better. /backpat

Wait… you think I’m kidding?

It’s ok, he hasn’t learned how to look at buffs on enemies yet, he probably dies to retaliation and confusion all the time.

Kubb.9764:

quoted for answering some of your respone.

I intentionally ignored him because he’s wrong. Learn to coordinate better (L2P) and moving a zerg around is easy. We do it in T1 with 80+ people, half being PUGs pretty easily, I find it hard to believe smaller groups have problems with this, and if they do… then it’s still L2P.

PROTIP: Use voice chat.

Grats to sea of black kainengs (SOBK) on your win last week, Hopefully JQ bothers to show up this week so we can have a good match.

Victory.2879:

And wish, the main problems occur for me when we’re defending keeps, ballys and supplies are dead and there isn’t any other option- attack or just sit back and watch them break the doors down…it’s NOT a l2 kitten ue with ranger, it’s more a question of being able to use the one decent skill without completely killing yourself.

If theyre doing it, you can do it too, then the tables are balanced and whoever is better or gets the drop on the other will win, provided skill levels are about the same, and numbers close enough to even to not matter. If theyre attacking your gate and you have no siege? Then stack up, drop a veil and run out the door and smash their faces in before they know what hit them, with retaliation and might stacks because youre initiating the fight and you can buff then charge. And if they see you buffing and back off… well you accomplished what you wanted without even fighting, good job. In T1, we regularly do this/have it done to us. It’s amazingly effective. Here’s a video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDJ31YLVhM0
If you just watch the first minute of this video you can watch some melees crush a golem rush with less numbers than the attackers and send them fleeing for their lives in under a minute.

Kubb.9764:

So what you all are saying is, sit back and watch your team get slaughtered because of one boon preventing your attack and that’s considered smart play?

If that one boon is preventing you from attacking, then maybe you should play smarter and put that boon up too, or, move 15 seconds away from them when theyre stacked and buffing, kite them for 10 seconds before you engage, drop null fields in front of them when theyre running towards you, fast build ballistas when you see them charging, or any of the other easily applicable solutions aside from stand there like a fool and get killed.

L2P and it’s not an issue.

Ragnar.4257:

On the flip-side, I play a hammer warrior, with alot of slow, long-cooldown, hard-hitting attacks. A single blind or a single aegis can completely negate a huge amount of my damage output. Having a Backbreaker or an Earthshaker blocked can be the difference between a flawless victory and a massive defeat. While you pew-pewing away with your shortbow will barely be affected by a single blind. You probably wouldn’t even notice it had happened.
Omgwtf nerf Aegis, isn’t fair to slow attack rate players
Or, accept that all builds and playstyles should have a counter, and things they are strong against. Confusion/retaliation are the counter to your playstyle, while I barely notice them; block/blind/evade are the counter to mine, while they barely affect you. This is what we call balance.
PS. as a melee character I would love the ability to set condi-removal priority. Get that frozen removed instead of pointlessly removing that harmless confusion :P

QFT

Arpheus.6918:

Immolator’s idea or a certain percentage of damage returned would both be good solutions.

Ya, a % of the damage should be sent back, and armor can be taken into account for the reflected damage. How about we go with like 30-40% of the damage you do is sent back, that way the ranger can down then kill himself from his 200k damage instead of almost doing it. I’m totally in favor of that, afterwards since we’re buffing this skill, we can make it proc on condition damage ticks too. I’d love to kill mesmers because they put confusion on me, that sounds fun.

Nokaru.7831:

graverr.6473:

Sorry but that is not how it works at all .You are really confused or disinformed.Retal hits for 300 per hit per target for a maximum of 5 targets.Lets say you have 30 k hp .If you can hit anyone 100 times in very few seconds to kill yourself than it is something really wrong with your class.

Le Sigh. You are so confused.

Let’s say you cast Feedback on a zerg in WvW. This should be a good thing, right?

Uh oh! They have Retaliation! So what happens?

Let’s pretend that zerg has an Engineer which throw their Grenades, because Grenades are awesome. Now, each Grenade toss throws 3 Grenades, each which hit 5 targets each. That’s one players casting 1 spell, and causing a backlash of up to 15 units of damage. But wait a second – Feedback makes those Grenades belong to the Mesmer now… So all of that Retaliation damage goes to the Mesmer – instantly!

Woah! Now Imagine if there were three Engineers who did that in that Feedback. Uh oh! Now that’s 45 units of damage! Oh my gooses, if Retaliation did 300 damage a hit, that’s a potential 13,000 damage! But wait, what if there are other random projectiles bouncing back, like from Thieves, or Rangers, or – I don’t know – Anything!? Wow! It seems like that one spell just caused a lot of Retaliation damage instantly!

Feedback isn’t the only issue. Grenade Barrage throws 6 grenades, each which can hit up to 5 targets each. Meteor Shower also has the same issues.

I hope this clears things up for you finally.

So basically, you want to be able to mindlessly throw AOEs and not care at all? That sounds incredibly boring and stupid. No thanks.

covenn.7165:

I am ok with not being able to get ascended via WvW as long as the gear can’t be used in WvW.

I dont like this guy or 99% of the things he says, but I agree with this.

Tobias Steele.2071:

Jade quarries worst nightmare…

BGs asians wont get hit with this because theyre Korean, so ya. (At least WM is Korean)

Can I transfer there, make a guild tagged SOLO and you guys all agree to only fight me 1 on 1? lol, but seriously, this sounds way more fun than what Im doing now, is anyone recruiting? I’ll jump one of my accounts there to play with you guys if you are.

Chaba.5410:

Because it’s easy to pick out the 10×10 pixel boon icon on those 3-5 people with retaliation up in the middle of a 20-man zerg before you press the attack button only once. Practically speaking, of course.

Well you can figure it out fast enough when you see the numbers pop right? That fixes it and makes it easy to notice.

Panda.1967:

WOW! Just WOW!

I agree, WOW, you just dont get it.

Did you even read the thread I linked?

Taking 20k is a small price to pay for doing 200k+.
If anything ranger needs the nerf.

BlueViking.7105:

I kind of dont like the retaliation nerf, but apperently some builds (that i dont play) cant play at all vs retaliation. so instead of just nerfing it without solving the problem and also making retaliation vs other builds kinda bad, why not just add a cooldown? cant take retaliation damage more then once every half a second. problem solved?

What class are you again? I need to know which class to get nerfed next because its ‘unfair’

Jordo.5913:

so…barrage can hit a person up to 12 times….so if it hits a total of 5 people(the max amount of people an AoE spell can affect) for the entire duration

that is 75 ticks….

if it does 1k per hit…that is actually 75,000 to 150,000

however that is only 12k damage…24k damage if every hit crits, to each person in the AoE

however if you stands in barrage’s AoE circle for a full duration…you deserve to die….you literally have 6 seconds to get out of it…..

Oh please, if he shouldnt have to bother to worry about if retaliation is up or look for it why should I need to look for a big red circle on the ground and move out of it? You talk like its so easy to just dodge roll once and youre through it….

What if its at a choke pooint entering a keep and they have some leg specialist arrow carts too!? what then!

graverr.6473:

1. I never mentioned 10 k hits on a guardian,especially not mine
2.More classes have access to retaliation ,if not from own source than from allies.
3.Can we move along now ?

We’ve been talking about guardians specifically, and if if they were fine with the way it works. You said something about taking 10k damage and having 350 returned. If you follow whats going on, youd see that everyone thinks you mean guardian, especially since its the class that is known as having tons of easy access to retaliation.

3. sure, Lets get back to talking about how ranger needs nerfed.

graverr.6473:

wish.1027:

A Guardian who takes 10k backstabs should L2P. Also, thieves kill themselves with their autoattack and heartseeker spam into the brick wall that is a well played guardian. Retaliation is fine as it is.

Because only guardians have retaliation and god forbid you play with your brain instead of spamming skills with quickness like a robot right ?And cuz also getting 10 k damage in oneshot from stealth is a l2 kitten ue not a game ballance fiasco

My glass cannon thief regularly crits guardians with backstab for 6k or less, 6k being super high for someone with good defense and protection up, and my guardian regularly takes that from backstab. I think you just need to stop wearing berserker gear and then complaining that you get facerolled stupid fast.

graverr.6473:

Retaliation is more than fine.It looks to me instead that engineers an rangers and oyher classes that have 600 different ticks in a very short time are broken an you should ask anet to fix them instead not ask to nerf a perfectly working boon.
Also taking a backstab for 10 k and hiving only 350 damage back from retal is a joke.So it prolly needs a buff in that direction.

A Guardian who takes 10k backstabs should L2P. Also, thieves kill themselves with their autoattack and heartseeker spam into the brick wall that is a well played guardian. Retaliation is fine as it is.

Panda.1967:

Incorrect. You assume 54 hits on a single target.

At no point did I say that it was single target. I was adding up the total damage the skill apparently does as per mr RNG who thinks everything should be nerfed except him, and was pointing out that the skills damage is absurdly high.

Chaba.5410:

Retaliation is powerful against rapid-firing pew pew attacks, somewhat useless against the deadly bursty attacks. Guardians, does that sound balanced?

Its fine, it makes it good against some stuff, and bad against some stuff, thereby giving the rock paper scissors balance.

Benjamin.7893:

wish.1027:

Benjamin.7893:

wish.1027:

Benjamin.7893:

Retal should be changed simple as. The fact that some of the strongest aoe (for example necro wells) take no damage from retal while other classes aoe (for example grenade barrage) get completely destroyed is ridiculous, there should be some form of balance here.

Rock paper scissors is balance and what Anet was going for with PVP.
Good job pointing out that they got it right.

Gw2 the game with dedicaded ranged, melee and a holy trinity. Oh, wait.

If you don’t get it Cosmic then there is no point in further explaining things to you, sorry.

The circle is more like Guardian rolls Ranger, Ranger rolls Necro, Necro rolls Guardian. Way to not understand. Grd is a boon job, necro can destroy those and melt the grd, necro is pretty weak if you just kite it and range it down, like any half decent rng could do, but rng doesnt do enough damage to get through the grds boons and dies to its low damage output and retaliation. Get it now? This is how the game is balanced.

Are you talking about 1v1 here? Cus l0l you couldn’t be more wrong.

Ya, a decent guardian will faceroll all that crap, but whatever, thats obviously the designed intention.

Also I would like to point everyone to this thread:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Ranger-Longbow-5-Needs-nerfed/first#post1951191
And I’d like to warn the OP, to watch his cries for nerfs, cause it can come back and bite him in the butt.

So I was looking at the forums, and I saw something crazy said. A ranged used this skill on a zerg once, and almost died from retaliation.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Retaliation-nerf-was-undone/first#post1949634
He took 19,000+ damage from retaliation from just this one skill. Retaliation, even if it was hitting for 350 (my grd seems to constantly be around or under there) would require…
19000/350=54.28571~
54 ish hits to do that much damage to him. 54 hits? One skill can hit 54+ times? Lets say youre a tanky ranger, a tanky rangers still going to do 1k+ damage with each of those, crits are gonna be in the 2k range. Thats 50,000-100,000 damage from 1 skill, from a tanky character. A glass cannon ranger would do 200,000+ damage, from ONE SKILL.

200,000 damage from 1 skill is way to much, and this needs looked into and nerfed hard, ASAP.

Benjamin.7893:

wish.1027:

Benjamin.7893:

Retal should be changed simple as. The fact that some of the strongest aoe (for example necro wells) take no damage from retal while other classes aoe (for example grenade barrage) get completely destroyed is ridiculous, there should be some form of balance here.

Rock paper scissors is balance and what Anet was going for with PVP.
Good job pointing out that they got it right.

Gw2 the game with dedicaded ranged, melee and a holy trinity. Oh, wait.

If you don’t get it Cosmic then there is no point in further explaining things to you, sorry.

The circle is more like Guardian rolls Ranger, Ranger rolls Necro, Necro rolls Guardian. Way to not understand. Grd is a boon job, necro can destroy those and melt the grd, necro is pretty weak if you just kite it and range it down, like any half decent rng could do, but rng doesnt do enough damage to get through the grds boons and dies to its low damage output and retaliation. Get it now? This is how the game is balanced.

Benjamin.7893:

Retal should be changed simple as. The fact that some of the strongest aoe (for example necro wells) take no damage from retal while other classes aoe (for example grenade barrage) get completely destroyed is ridiculous, there should be some form of balance here.

Rock paper scissors is balance and what Anet was going for with PVP.
Good job pointing out that they got it right.

Cosmic.6047:

If you receive 15k in retaliation damage and say ~300 retaliation damage per hit.
This means you hit 50 times !

Be aware during a fight.

Rangers can drop AOEs that hit 50 times? This is effing OP, I’m about to go make 10 threads complaining about how this needs nerfed. A GC ranger doing that, with each hit hitting for 1-2k+ damage would be like 50,000-100,00 damage, that is WAY TO MUCH.

First thing you should do, is ignore anyone who says thieves are OP. Why? Because thieves are terrible for the most part, if you die 1v1 to a thief, youre bad, deal with it.

If you want to play with a zerg, and fight with them in the front, hammer warrior and staff/great sword guardian are pretty amazing. If you want to stand in the back of the zerg, Necro or Ele are your choices.

If you want to roam, it depends heavily on what else you’re roaming with, or if youre solo. Recently I’ve been roaming solo on guardian and destroying people, and its good fun when they dont run away from me (I cant catch them ; ; ). Just make sure you roll a norn for snowleapard form elite, so you can get out of bad situations without giving people 60 wxp.

If you just want to be a troll and wreck pugs and uplevels and bads, roll thief. It makes them angry. But a lot of this game is playstyle really. If you dont like the way something feels or how it works, youll never be good with it. Why not tell us how you like to play so people can give you a better answer.

Colly.4073:

I seriously hope the DEVS are going to reimburse players in some way, I myself spent over 40g building and gearing my Mesmer only for it to be shelved and all my hard earned gear and ascended items gathering dust in the bank.

I spent over 400 gold and 65 laurels on my THF that I cant get back. Suck it up, you got nerfed just as bad as I did, now to get the rest of them.

Imagine if you just got 5-10 people who would charge in with you. You would completely dominate the other servers in your tier and change the meta to be like it is in T1, where we mainly use melees and charge each other.

Hexin.5603:

You can complete laurels in wvw… everything is available. Except the dungeon or frac or area specific.

crafting, killing type, kill count, vet, champion, ambient, aquatic, forge, … need me to keep going?

… leveling, jp, sidekicked…

Can you get 1 item every week and a half doing dailies like people who PVE and do fractals?
All we want is an equal playing field for PVP players and PVE players like Anet said they originally wanted, play the game how you want to play and still be able to get all the best gear at the same rate as everyone else and all that. Why are you against that idea?

Ruprect.7260:

PinCushion.7390:

Ruprect.7260:

Technically a necro could fear someone for at least 6 seconds by using 2 skills. How is that any different that confusion.

You can’t burst yourself to death in 5 seconds because someone Feared you.

I dunno, I thought it was a strange change too. Confusion builds were really interesting, but I guess there was too much QQ about them.

They probably didn’t like it that Engineers still hate turrets after multiple huge buffs, so no Confusion spike for them now! Bad Engineers! Hit with Nerf Paddle!

You are unable to attack for that time. People are complaining that you cannot attack while you have confusion, you cannot attack for longer if you are feared. How is that different. With confusion at least you could remove it, fear is a garaunteed 5-6 seconds of no attacking if traited and runed.

Stun break or stability both stop fear/knockdown/etc dead in their tracks, no matter how many of them get dumped on you. Confusion on the other hand is around the bottom of the list of conditions that get removed. Even as a heavy condition removing class… its very hard to get rid of it when a good mesmer or engineer applies it to you. Theyre worlds apart.

stale.9785:

wish.1027:

penatbater.4710:

laurels:

Why would laurels be included exactly? This needs to be a WvW only way to get them. So badges+nothing or less badges+gold. unless you want to trade 30 badges for a laurel or something, I would be ok with that.

Given that I can get 1 laurel a day in PvE, yet even I (a fairly poor WvW player) can get 60+ badges in an evening, I’d want the exchange to be more around 250 to 1 for badges to laurels.

Fractals take 30 minutes for a decent group. 10 fractals = 5 hours, a week and a half, and 1 item, right?
So a week and a half of 3-4 hours a day in WvW would probably net you around 500 badges if you were an average player on a middle tier server. So I use this as means to say 1000 badges is a bit high, but acceptable. You on the other hand want 7500+ badges per item, which is effing ridiculous. How did you even come to that number?

wish.1027:

NevirSayDie.6235:

There is no removal order. Conditions are always cleansed on a last in, first out basis, meaning that the last condition to be applied to you will be the first to go.

I dont believe that at all, as bleeding is always the first thing I see removed.

I just went to sPVP, a thf did bleeding then vulnerability then poison to me. I hit an ability that removed 1 condition, and it was bleeding that was removed. Then he did poison > bleeding > vuln, and again, bleeding was removed first.

Is there any else you would like to add that is untrue?

penatbater.4710:

laurels:

Why would laurels be included exactly? This needs to be a WvW only way to get them. So badges+nothing or less badges+gold. unless you want to trade 30 badges for a laurel or something, I would be ok with that.