Guild Wars 2

Gideon.6742:

You apparently can’t read either. I’m not in the large zergs lol… You assume way too much… But wanting 10-20 ppl to clash and fight I don’t see what is wrong with that? I never once mentioned a blob kitten … I said a fight larger than 4v4 good one.

I wouldn’t class a 10v10 “Large scale” but whatever, Yet you assume i want 4v4…

If you’re running around with 10 guys then you should be finding fights (unless your purposely avoiding defending because the choochoo wxp train, but then thats your own fault.)

Gideon.6742:

x Charlie.4820:

Gideon.6742:

x Charlie.4820:

Gideon.6742:

Neandramathal.9536:

WSR generally have reasonable numbers, and Vabbi can get them going too if given the chance. As far as Vabbi is concerned there is often nothing that can be done against the size of group FoW runs around in, we (guild at least) try but there are limits to what can be defended/fought (especially when we rarely get chance to upgrade).

Can’t speak for anyone else but most the time it feels like the second red objectives start appearing on the map WSR/FoW forget about each other and just go straight for it, like “woo free stuff”. People want their Wxp so will go for the path of least resistance, to be expected.

I still have fun trying vast majority the time, but it shouldn’t be surprising that you aren’t getting too much resistance in general as not everyone is a gluten for punishment. As for hoping for growing population, the effect that this type of gameplay has will cause the opposite effect

Propoganda it may be, but pay more attention to WSR and you’ll likely find less empty/defenseless objectives ;D Especially as Vabbi will build momentum when allowed to hold objective for more than 10minutes :P

Now, back to videos >.>

I don’t mean to be a party pooper but when Vabbi takes FoW keeps its kind of hard to ignore… But for the most part I find we do pay more attention to WSR.

Thats what happens when you own most of the keeps? X_X
From what i’v seen FoW and WSR tend to both push vabbi at the same time. (Talking EB mostly)
Also tends to be alot of map hopping from fissure, seem to stay together all the time, either none on the map or all of them.

Doesn’t bother me at all, happens on all servers. Some people just love the Wxp train, shouldn’t then question why they’re not enjoying themselfs though ;o

Its funny how different perspectives are. I see a pug mostly in EB the ones who hop are guild most of the time unless everything is taken. EB is a totally different beast than vabbi bl.

Took keeps in your bl/stuff in EB with no resistance with less than 4 people (During primetime) , I don’t know if your pugs follow your guild groups, but when we do find enemies, alot of the time its from no resistance -> outmanned. Normally a 25+ zerg with guild group mixed in. (Mainly EB, but borderlands from time to time.)

As for vabbi BL i don’t go there much so can’t say.

You transferred to Vabbi… just stop talking about zerging us this and that outmanned bla bla bla kitten gets old. you knew the situation. People are bored because there are no larger scale fights in this matchup even when WSR has a zerg they rarely clash.

Wasn’t complaining, if you actually go and READ what i wrote, i said it doesn’t bother me. You said it yourself, even when WSR has a zerg you guys barely clash.

I moved to vabbi because i didn’t like the skill-less “Large scale fights” that you want and whilst the zergs down here are much smaller, there is still zergs.
There will always be, on every server because its the safest and easiest way for players like yourself to get rewarded for doing nothing.

Just stop whinging that fights are boring and you’re bored, if you’re gona run around with tons of people, Don’t expect to get even fights.
Fighting the lowest server on the ladder and complaining that they have no Blob….. I dont even know what to say.

Gideon.6742:

x Charlie.4820:

Gideon.6742:

Neandramathal.9536:

WSR generally have reasonable numbers, and Vabbi can get them going too if given the chance. As far as Vabbi is concerned there is often nothing that can be done against the size of group FoW runs around in, we (guild at least) try but there are limits to what can be defended/fought (especially when we rarely get chance to upgrade).

Can’t speak for anyone else but most the time it feels like the second red objectives start appearing on the map WSR/FoW forget about each other and just go straight for it, like “woo free stuff”. People want their Wxp so will go for the path of least resistance, to be expected.

I still have fun trying vast majority the time, but it shouldn’t be surprising that you aren’t getting too much resistance in general as not everyone is a gluten for punishment. As for hoping for growing population, the effect that this type of gameplay has will cause the opposite effect

Propoganda it may be, but pay more attention to WSR and you’ll likely find less empty/defenseless objectives ;D Especially as Vabbi will build momentum when allowed to hold objective for more than 10minutes :P

Now, back to videos >.>

I don’t mean to be a party pooper but when Vabbi takes FoW keeps its kind of hard to ignore… But for the most part I find we do pay more attention to WSR.

Thats what happens when you own most of the keeps? X_X
From what i’v seen FoW and WSR tend to both push vabbi at the same time. (Talking EB mostly)
Also tends to be alot of map hopping from fissure, seem to stay together all the time, either none on the map or all of them.

Doesn’t bother me at all, happens on all servers. Some people just love the Wxp train, shouldn’t then question why they’re not enjoying themselfs though ;o

Its funny how different perspectives are. I see a pug mostly in EB the ones who hop are guild most of the time unless everything is taken. EB is a totally different beast than vabbi bl.

Took keeps in your bl/stuff in EB with no resistance with less than 4 people (During primetime) , I don’t know if your pugs follow your guild groups, but when we do find enemies, alot of the time its from no resistance → outmanned. Normally a 25+ zerg with guild group mixed in. (Mainly EB, but borderlands from time to time.)

As for vabbi BL i don’t go there much so can’t say.

Gideon.6742:

Neandramathal.9536:

WSR generally have reasonable numbers, and Vabbi can get them going too if given the chance. As far as Vabbi is concerned there is often nothing that can be done against the size of group FoW runs around in, we (guild at least) try but there are limits to what can be defended/fought (especially when we rarely get chance to upgrade).

Can’t speak for anyone else but most the time it feels like the second red objectives start appearing on the map WSR/FoW forget about each other and just go straight for it, like “woo free stuff”. People want their Wxp so will go for the path of least resistance, to be expected.

I still have fun trying vast majority the time, but it shouldn’t be surprising that you aren’t getting too much resistance in general as not everyone is a gluten for punishment. As for hoping for growing population, the effect that this type of gameplay has will cause the opposite effect

Propoganda it may be, but pay more attention to WSR and you’ll likely find less empty/defenseless objectives ;D Especially as Vabbi will build momentum when allowed to hold objective for more than 10minutes :P

Now, back to videos >.>

I don’t mean to be a party pooper but when Vabbi takes FoW keeps its kind of hard to ignore… But for the most part I find we do pay more attention to WSR.

Thats what happens when you own most of the keeps? X_X
From what i’v seen FoW and WSR tend to both push vabbi at the same time. (Talking EB mostly)
Also tends to be alot of map hopping from fissure, seem to stay together all the time, either none on the map or all of them.

Doesn’t bother me at all, happens on all servers. Some people just love the Wxp train, shouldn’t then question why they’re not enjoying themselfs though ;o

What started off as a boring night tonight, with nobody wanting to fight without double numbers,Turned into great fun later on in EB!

Some of the most fun i’ve had this matchup! Plenty of 3 way fights tonight, was only 2 of us so we died quite a bit, but was great fun

Jathres.7236:

Those are all dirty lies!

It is just because i eroded his nifty high standards and brought him down to the messy daily mass production ! ^^

Yes this too!

Getting zerged over non-stop doesn’t make for good videos either :P

Nubu.6148:

These Imp guys are nasty cheaters i heared .

Lies!

On another note i had great fun with a group of fissure outside lake in WSR borderland yesterday.

If it can be done i see no harm in it being put in.

The people who care enough about their characters story won’t do it, so it doesn’t matter.

Personally i don’t care about story, most of my characters are still at the level 2 story.

Wasn’t really armour that makes me want to change as much as animations for certain skills, sure i didn’t go through all races and unlock all skills to see the animations before i choose a race but who does that?

hihey.1075:

x Charlie.4820:

First reset for us on vabbi, Didn’t expect arborstone to have that many people after the first fight in stonemist.

Hopefully we can have some fun fights during the week

Why did you move away from GH? =((((

Queues & Zergs.

We orginally joined GH when they was in tier 8 and we enjoyed it back then but we never really wanted to move up this high, but due to all the guilds joining now (And GH still recruiting) we decided it was best to move on. :P

First reset for us on vabbi, Didn’t expect arborstone to have that many people after the first fight in stonemist.

Hopefully we can have some fun fights during the week

Fun fights tonight in EB!

Stop Zerging → problem solved.

Pryda.8257:

How can you confirm that GW2 playerbase is largely PvE?

One sure thing is PvE and casual players put more money into gem store.

Haha, can’t tell if first question is serious…

As for the thing about gems, I’m sure most of the GvG community was also stating they buy the most gems with all their server hopping.

Then again i guess i should have taken it lightly, A lot of them seem to just pull random percentages out of thin air.

Rodney.1470:

Personally, those new events in the borderlands with the so called “new orbs of power” seem more like PvE events.

Lol as wvw stands atm its just pvd with the odd occasion of blob v blob and massive skill lag.

Hopefully the new update will bring back some small scale fights, because as it stands atm nobody will stop to fight, even attacking them 1v2, nine times out of ten they will just continue to run to the commander whilst dying in the process. Which makes me wonder why they’re even in wvw in the first place.

If people didn’t just zerg everything we wouldnt have skill lag.

Samoleth.5012:

If i’m feeling generous i could also teach some tactical siege placement to you newbs (kidding, basically it’s throw random siege around)

LOL XD

The Umpire.9510:

i joined Xaoc on gunnars hold cuz i am a night player and they played in night, remember i played on GH from launch and i was there till we transfered to RoS i am not a server hopper

and RoS have a awesome nightcapping event i love this server and about Xaoc we are not Xaoc, we are [FRS] we have only a few Xaoc players, we started here with a few ppl… and ppl who play in night they want to be in a night guild, our guild is strong and important in the night deal with it

Thats lovely, i never complained about nightcapping and stuff so i’m not sure why i need to “Deal with it.” I’m fully aware that it is part of the game and have never said otherwise. The reason i said Xaoc and not FRS is because you said nobody had a problem with the nightcapping on GH which was incorrect. I can’t say “I had a problem with FRS nightcapping” because it was never FRS on GH. As you said yourself many people have left and probably many new ones joined.

The Umpire.9510:

and crap talking about pvd bla bla, we have awesome fights in the night….

like i said, deal with it and lose some ego stuff on gh, always complaining about the stuff… have fun and play….

When you was on GH it was PvD, I never said anything about now, Feel free to go and re-read what i wrote. I haven’t complained once in this thread, infact that was my first post so i’m not sure how i’m “Always complaining”

I do not speak for GH and other people on GH do not speak for me. You have people who complain about stuff on your server too buddy.

The Umpire.9510:

when we where on gunnars hold you also didnt complain about our night/morning capping…

Actually wrong. I never wanted Xaoc to join GH and wasn’t happy when we got the boost in PvD players, Made nightime a PvD zerg that map hopped constantly and was overall very boring to play. I never understood why you transfered this far down when it was clear you would only be fighting doors and would leave once we got into a tier where you had actual players to fight.

I’m sure there are people from GH who did want you here, But to say we was all fine with it would be wrong.

dikamilo.7519:

That was fun for us We killed all except that golem, and guy inside don’t notice enemy behind at all for some time. At the end he escaped, we don’t kill him or maybe some random do it.

Nope, he knew you you was there, We just thought it was riverside and not piken.
Was only around 5 of us and half escaped.

dikamilo.7519:

And thanks Gunars for helping taking tower

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/7562/gw041tc.jpg

We didn’t even know it was Piken at first, it was more just “Zerg, run!” we just assumed it was riverside, the golem was never going to escape anyway so just damaged the gate more, it was only after that we noticed it was a piken zerg and not a riverside one.

Had fun playing with piken inside their EBG keep just now, Too many came up to the vista at the end and you got me

Vynt.5218:

LOL @ Gunnar’s fair-weathers. This proves once again that you (at least the players on the forums) don’t like any challenge.
If I were against these two servers, I would play more than ever. And so would be doing most likely the whole Ruins of Surmia.

What on earth are you talking about? Most of the people posting here ARE playing.

Also is this the same ruins of surmia that was asking people to let them win?
Maybe the same one who after losing one week (Very close matchup) had people from their server posting that they need 2 more guilds :S?

I’m not quite seeing the challenge in either of the above.

I think everyone is fully aware that GH is going to lose, We don’t have the coverage. That doesn’t mean we’ve stopped playing.

Fun gvgs and duels tonight! Thanks everyone for the fun fights!

Pukknub.7368:

Lert.6287:

Looking for GvG. 60vs60. (45 is least we can agree on).

Okay. Gave you time – now you know I was kidding. Basicly THAT stupid it looks like, when most guilds are struggling to get 8-9 people online or like one I’m in 4-5 three times a week.

Honestly, it shows nothing. It’s simply ego-booster for the ones who win.
If you guys want to prove you’re all skilled either do some outmanned actions (no, I don’t mean 43 vs 47) or small scale GvG fights (one party, one and a half).

That would be all from me at this given moment. I’m a little tired of the doutchy comments lately. Either it’s zerger complaining about X server zerging due being out-zerged or HUGE scale GvG as solution to problems.

Peace.

I don’t think guilds do gvg just to gain prestige. They do it because it is fun.

Also, why would killing some zerg outmanned display more skills, or whatever you’re talking about. You don’t know how many upscaled, less skilled, less organized etc players are there. An organized group of 20 people can easily destroy a zerg of 40 players. Not because each of the players are better individually, but because they have proper builds and organization.

I also don’t see the point of 6-man gvg. If you want something like that, you can play structured pvp. World vs world isn’t about small scale fights. At least not from my point of view, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
I know for a fact that many players prefer to use builds made for large scale pvp.

And honestly, what would the difference between a 25man gvg and a 6man gvg be? Except the fact that only 1/4 of the people can participate and you’d have to change your build and playstyle slightly.

Can’t really compare 6v6 gvg to spvp, firstly its only 5 people in tournies.
It’s a rare occasion to have a 5v5 in a tournie that would mean 2 points are left undefended.
The stat choices are more limited.
List goes on..

Efreet.1895:

Thanks GH for ruining our part of EB while we’re not able to do anything against it because of our buggy keep :-) Very sportsmanlike.

Because like, we’re not crashing aswell?

Think its pretty obvious from earlier posts its not just you crashing, its a problem with EB i guess, it was mainly klovan but i’ve had it a few times at langor too.

Yeh we had a few crashs at klovan earlier too, weird lol.

Nymph of Meliai.6739:

x Charlie.4820:

yroeht.5843:

drkn.3429:

Re: reset – it wasn’t the ‘entire server’s blob’:
http://imageshack.us/a/img842/890/gw065a.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img10/946/gw068e.jpg

And, as you can see on those screenshots, we were outmanned all evening :/

Maybe we should take off our guild tag when sticking to other commanders between guild raids, this “RiOT blob” talk is really annoying.

So? We’re outmanned at times too and your guys don’t split up. It happens to everyone, No point carrying on about it.

Not true… last night we realised our group was getting too big and Crad took half of the group to home bl to defend bay before taking them to eb to take SM… while sneezy stayed on dz bl to take garrison and bay.

We’re still outmanned, you guys need to make a solid definition of a “blob” because it changes on a day to day basis. Most nights when i see surmia they’re running with 20~ people and always show up on diffrent maps with the same commander.

I don’t really care and don’t want to argue about it. We get it, you guys don’t want to have fights bigger than like 30v30. I don’t want to fight 20 people but i don’t come on the forums and whine about it or tell you how your guild should have split up.

Good fight in Rogues just now, We saw the flank coming but trying to escape on a gaurdian isn’t the easiest of things!

Made it all the way to wildcreek door and you got me

yroeht.5843:

drkn.3429:

Re: reset – it wasn’t the ‘entire server’s blob’:
http://imageshack.us/a/img842/890/gw065a.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img10/946/gw068e.jpg

And, as you can see on those screenshots, we were outmanned all evening :/

Maybe we should take off our guild tag when sticking to other commanders between guild raids, this “RiOT blob” talk is really annoying.

So? We’re outmanned at times too and your guys don’t split up. It happens to everyone, No point carrying on about it.

All servers have pug zergs or “Blobs” whatever you want to call it.

Most of the people who join these don’t have 30 man wvw guild groups and are probably in wvw alone (not to mention the lowbies there purely for xp), why would they run on their own? Same for when the big guilds don’t have enough to run in their usual size group, they’ll join the zerg.

This alliance talk is very weird, considering last night one of our commanders said “Don’t attack RoS, my friend is leading them, We’ve agreed to focus dzag.”

Nobody on at the time seem to agree with this choice however and stopped following.

EB isn’t a valid argument, 1 side will always be pushed its how EB works.

Kimbald.2697:

Yorric Hunt.8214:

Kimbald.2697:

To the 4 PRXM guys at Gods just now.
I’m the little engineer that kept bugging you without dying… for a while.

I really appreciate the /bow you all did when I finally fell.

Not that I did anything constructive in the end, but it was too good to pass on

Haha thanks dude you were a pain to kill lol. We normally bow to guys that are good players or give us a fun fight. We also put off taking the camp till we killed you, which took much longer than expected lol.

Had a duel in EB below Mendons a bit after that, where one guy fought me and his friends stayed and watched. But in the end I messed up, had my shifting button wrong on the last part of the fight so started messing up bigtime.
He beat me fair and square. Was a really fun fight too. Took aaaaages too…
We kept resetting our health till I went nervous I guess and missed the button

Yeh this was a guildy of mine, i was watching. Fight went on foreverrrrrrr

Nymph of Meliai.6739:

sendmark.4731:

Weird comment, as all I saw from Riot in their BL was blobbing up and doing a straight melee rush through veil. No variation in tactics, no splitting up for small group fights. In fact my first (perhaps harsh) thought was, how can these guys criticise Vizunah when they just fight just as one-dimensional?

As for tier below only have zergs of 30 ppl – that’s because they are second bottom tier and cannot bring any numbers. Arborstone is a server that got reduced down to nearly 0 people some time ago and dropped half a dozen tiers in a row, and Whiteside Ridge was always a small server who lost the only decent sized guilds they had months ago.

I don’t think you understand the difference between a zerg/guild, and a blob…

a zerg/guild consists of about 30 ppl (somewhere between 15 and 50)… following one commander

a blob = several guilds fighting together that make up almost every single person on the map in one big blob

You may be surprised to know that RiOT only had 30 ppl max at any one time. We were fighting almost exclusively as a single guild… although we had about 5 randoms tagging alongside us who kept on coming and going, most of the night we only had about 25 RiOT people fighting (just count the number of dead after our wipe at Bay in the photo – approx 20 ppl? plus about 5 ppl left standing).

As for splitting up into little groups… I never saw GH split into little groups all night except for one camp capping group I bumped into on my way to joining my guild when I first logged in (about an hour after reset). We were fighting greater numbers of foes most of the night… what did you expect us to do… try and fight that blob in the photo with 5 people? We are RiOT not bambies… we joined RoS from SFR not Vabbi.

If this is your definition of a blob (Everyone on the map + Multiple guild groups running together), then yes your guild is doing it. Your server is definatly not split into any kind of groups atm.
Atm most, if not all of your server are just hopping zone, wiping/recapping and repeat.
We just had around 20 guys come for us, despite being only 2 people in the zone.

Not criticising how you play, Just don’t moan about things your doing yourself.

Yea, this is alot worse than before, imo.

Yep, much worse.

Literally just die to a zerg before they even appear….
Can see why it benefits the guys who run in zergs, but seriously this is pretty bad for the rest of us.

Runcore.5107:

I just want for thieves some compensation and I dont care if this compensation will be portal or something else but Necromancers, Rangers and Elementalists have our +25% speed signets so I want something from them in return for our original signet and this portal is nice candidate for give to thieves as compensation for our stolen speed signet. They have something which belong to thief so thief want something what belong to other clasess. Its so easy. Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.

I dont know on which dream cloud you live now but we live on world of trade which mean I give you something and you give me something in return. Developers still owe something to thieves for steal their original signet and giving it to other classes.

Firstly, mesmers never got your signet. So its not a straight up, mesmers got 25% so we should have their portal.

Secondly, the Developers don’t owe you anything. If something is on the more powerfull side, its supposed to get nerfed, not nerfed then buffed.

Thirdly, When that changed happened, thiefs got 50% faster speed while in stealth trait.

TLDR; Quit crying, thiefs don’t need portal.

Just to let you know, if you log out whilst in the downstate you will be dead when you log back in

Basically, all i do is wvw. Which as most of you know has cheaters for the orb and stuff, i was glad to see the orb go, but thats not my problem. These are my problems;

People teleporting around, Jumping around, no animation, they don’t stop. (I’ve even had people tell me the guy who done it, think its hillarious and has posted all over vabbi forums, i do not know if this is true or if you have done anything about it yet but its annoying.)

Clusterbombs landing ontop of walls/Supply depots, NOT detonate cluster, Cluster bomb, i’ve seen a few thiefs doing this. I’m not sure if this is a bug or if its intended but i can never get my camera that high anyway.

And then today, this one tops it off. We killed 2 rams at a tower, did they run for supply? no, the mesmer just got through the gate (Don’t ask me how, he was using a staff) as soon as he got through he just ported the whole team in.

Now before you ask me if he was already in there, we haven’t lost that tower all day and he was defending bay from us about 10 mins before, I also have a level 80 ele, mesmer and thief incase anyones wondering.

Now, What exactly do i do about this? Would it be possible to email Anet and have Anet look into it? (if so how?)

I have both of the guys account names. (Which i won’t list here as i’m sure theres rules against it)

I’m sick of it, We’re in the lowest tier in wvw and its not nice having the top team cheat against you.

Please don’t tell me to “Report them” because there is nothing i can report them for.