Guild Wars 2

NikeEU.7690:

xbutcherx.3861:

NikeEU.7690:

Why couldn’t you run a Sinister warrior in a dungeon?

Because they are very bad maybe? I would insta kick cond warrior.

They aren’t as bad as you think.

Yes they are, applying 25+ stacks of bleed takes a while, raw zerker damage is the new meta.

NikeEU.7690:

Why couldn’t you run a Sinister warrior in a dungeon?

Because they are very bad maybe? I would insta kick cond warrior.

I hope these build are not for dungeon run right?

sinject.4607:

this is just a vague and short list of things i think need to be looked at

warrior:
rampage needs to be nerfed. stances should not be allowed to carry over into rampage, especially bezerker’s stance. for many professions the only counterplay available to rampage is to leave the point entirely (hoping the warrior wont chase you) and wait for rampage to wear off, giving the warrior a free (de)cap.

Rampage is not an stance

Ahleage.4026:

I’m stuck too.
I dont wan’t to complain because I really respect the developers as they deliver some of the most awesome mmo features ever created but I am just curious as I am software engineer myself. How is it possible to create a patch for traits, conditions and general character mechanics improvement and include a bug in a separate feature of matchmaking which should be written in stone as one of the core features of a game. Don’t you have some modules validation like unit tests or something? It souldn’t be possible for such a major bug so late in the application development to occur. Bah….but what can I now I’m just a dumb player right? who happens to work for oracle development team.

JAVA sucks!

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

There are a lot of symptoms of high latency in LA right now, where the actions on the screen don’t match the actions of the game:

• People dying while jumping in place or walking on solid ground.
• Going into underwater mode (or vice-versa) while on land.
• Hearing karka when they aren’t close by (or not hearing them when they are).
• Nearby items being out of range (interactable text, rifle targets).

Not sure if it’s just one instance on many. I counted at least 5 people reporting issues in five minutes time. When I restarted the game, I was logged in “inside” the landscape on IP 64.25.38.95.

SO you are the one hacking the IP and sniping everyone huh? Bad panda, very bad panda!!

probably snipers?

I see 1 from you

any reason given?

Combustive shot hits and still doesn’t proc berserker power. Anet please fix!

This is a horrible bug, it has something to do with the new slow condition?

I just fought a literally GOD mode Ele, he wasn’t getting damage by melee… you could apply conditions on him but not melee.

yeah same for me too

They are indeed very broken.

I feel sorry for the new players, really. I think a lot people will just quit

seriously? coming from an Celestial Ele lulz.

Burst Precision was bugged before and after, sometimes it landed a crit sometimes it didn’t, so it is not 100% like the description says.

The did not nerfed shouts, they removed the 300 healing attributed from the trait line as the others trait attributes (str, crit, def).

Just curious to see what is everyone running, I’m at work and can’t test anything yet =(

I think I will go 0 0 6 6 6 for sPvP and 60606 for PvE and WvW

I guess they did that because now we can use shout heal + Banner regen, having banner CD reduced and increase area effect seems a little too OP, that is just my point of view.

now those $50 HoT doesn’t look so good huh?

Well they deleted a thread asking for answers, and they closed my thread asking to communicate. I see where this is going and I feel so sad that after 3 years I think at least we deserved a replay about all this.

Perez.1670:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmErRm-vApI

lol

Rofl!

BrooksP.4318:

xbutcherx.3861:

Quiznos.4296:

xbutcherx.3861:

Quiznos.4296:

Greymelken.1892:

I stopped reading when you said Anet pricing.

NCsoft pricing would be more accurate.

Think about that, kittens. Think about that while you whine and cry to Anet about how bad they are treating you.

They just make the game, they dont sell it to you.

Nothing about HoT mentioned on NCSOFT’s site.
Arenanet announced the packages, not NCSOFT.
NC and their shareholders certainly influenced/set pricing, but it’s definitely A net who is responsible for marketing/securing the sales.

T

Here you go!
Ncsoft first QT 2015

I’m not sure why you’re giving me this?

Read educate yourself, marketing maybe from Anet but budge wise is from Ncsoft, Ncsoft funded this game and they are the ones calling the shots.

You really have no idea how parent companies and subsidiaries work do you?

I guess you don’t either.

Killthehealersffs.8940:

GeekDavid.2786:

Ricky.4706:

actually silence is powerful …it can be damaging or positive depending on how the pr guy uses it.

it could either be ……we are not budging …..or we were shocked and were busy beheading the marketing guy.

In this case it’s damaging because we’re already seeing people leaving the game on account of it.

If they come back and claim they beheaded the marketing guy, those people who’ve already left won’t see it cause, well, they’ve already left.

Their veteran customer base is getting smaller with every tick of the clock.

So 5 months now we dont have a Update the Veterans dont leave the game .
But now when they released the price ppl leave the game ?

Thanks for opening my eyes :P

They can leave and they can come back … they dont pay sub …..they already moved and come back with variuous games …

Edit: I simply call them traitors , because in the past they admitted hat they will leave GW2 for an other game that offers Arenas + Raids (and generally that the Devs listen to them) and now once more they say that will go back when the game goes F2P.
So the old veteran-royal playerbase mostly is a hoax rumor :P

Actually a lot people has left because of no new updates, PvP balance and other stuff, bringing them back with a 50 dollar tag will be really hard.

Quiznos.4296:

xbutcherx.3861:

Quiznos.4296:

Greymelken.1892:

I stopped reading when you said Anet pricing.

NCsoft pricing would be more accurate.

Think about that, kittens. Think about that while you whine and cry to Anet about how bad they are treating you.

They just make the game, they dont sell it to you.

Nothing about HoT mentioned on NCSOFT’s site.
Arenanet announced the packages, not NCSOFT.
NC and their shareholders certainly influenced/set pricing, but it’s definitely A net who is responsible for marketing/securing the sales.

T

Here you go!
Ncsoft first QT 2015

I’m not sure why you’re giving me this?

Read educate yourself, marketing maybe from Anet but budge wise is from Ncsoft, Ncsoft owns Anet and this game and they are the ones calling the shots.

Quiznos.4296:

Greymelken.1892:

I stopped reading when you said Anet pricing.

NCsoft pricing would be more accurate.

Think about that, kittens. Think about that while you whine and cry to Anet about how bad they are treating you.

They just make the game, they dont sell it to you.

Nothing about HoT mentioned on NCSOFT’s site.
Arenanet announced the packages, not NCSOFT.
NC and their shareholders certainly influenced/set pricing, but it’s definitely A net who is responsible for marketing/securing the sales.

T

Here you go!
Ncsoft first QT 2015

Celtic Lady.3729:

xbutcherx.3861:

Celtic Lady.3729:

Mega nerf to whom exactly?

to everyone but Engineer

Guess it’s a good thing I have one then. lol

I do too but I don’t main engineer =(

Celtic Lady.3729:

Mega nerf to whom exactly?

to everyone but Engineer

Teon.5168:

My wife and I got the base expansion. Looking forward to it!

Frankly, I am far more concerned with Tuesday’s patch.

And you going to ask for a refund on Wednesday after tomorrow’s mega nerf. =)

The whole community is going nuts because you lack of communication, I think is about time you start communicating so people can stop speculating over this whole ordeal.
You have 1 thread with more than 5000 posts, websites calling on players rage, more and more threads and still nothing and all because of your silence.
Please say something so people can stop speculating including myself.

Thanks

Once again:
Dev team = Anet USA manage the game
Profit and spending = Ncsoft Korea manage the money and marketing.
Resolution : Anet have to let Ncsoft know what is happening and Ncsoft alone makes the decisions.

Teon.5168:

I would suggest that you redirect your anger at the bean counters and corporate admin at NCSoft…….I doubt that Anet, especially the devs and programmers had anything to do with setting the price or how to release/prerelease the expansion.

Ncsoft pays the bills here not Anet, they just develop the game and their hands are tie until Ncsoft says otherwise.

No word from Anet yet?

The company calling the shots here is Ncsoft, and I’m familiar with their game model, Lineage2, AION, GW2 etc… I’m kittened too but I think Anet can’t release any information until Nsoft says so.

Chicho Gosho.6507:

Savior.5783:

Chicho Gosho.6507:

My post got an error so i’ll give you the short answer.
- It has been said million times already that the only GW1 expansion was EotN. Maybe try to compare those two.-
- You are comparing a complete product(Fractions) with a product that you have less than 50% of the info. It is clear what the outcome would be.
- The world “entitled” is used in arguments between new and veteran players, not the way you are thinking.

P.S. Nobody forces you to pre-purchase. If you do not like the information you have at the moment – wait.

- It doesn’t matter what you call it, and I never called Factions an expansion- I called it a sequel. They are both similar in that they give content to players at a price.
- Do you genuinely believe ANet has anything significantly more planned besides the big 3 that they announced? People have already playtested, and nothing much has been tested besides what Anet has promised. It is incredibly unlikely that Anet will give 50% more of what HoT already provides, otherwise they would have revealed.

Not only that, but Anet would’ve revealed more given such criticism they received for HoT. Instead, they’re remaining quiet. If you genuinely believe Anet has a secret cache of amazing content tucked inside HoT, well, I don’t know what to say to you.

- lol still a tumblr word, and a disgusting word to use regardless

- Both the apple and the orange are fruits. It doesn’t make them the same.
- By less than 50% i meant that you don’t know the rest of the specializations, guild hall info just got released, no info on the pve content, there were no betas yet, just stress tests on one part of one map. They are not remaining quiet, they are revealing information every week.

This is the whole point, they offering something you have little info about.

Anyways after Tuesday mega nerf I will know if I going to even think about buying HoT

Mourningcry.9428:

Referencing past products and pricing practices as a basis for current product,and arguably a vastly different product is not a valid argument.

I used to pay $2 to go the movies, now it’s easily $15-$20. Why should an IMAX experience cost 10x as much as the movies I used to watch?The movies are both made by Paramount, in fact some of them were even longer then 90min. Outrageous.

$50 is the current price of admission. What you got before has no bearing on what is being offered now.

$2 for a movie ticket? when was that 1945?

briggah.7910:

xbutcherx.3861:

briggah.7910:

xbutcherx.3861:

briggah.7910:

xbutcherx.3861:

briggah.7910:

xbutcherx.3861:

The funny part is that the main thread about this has 4100 posts which 4000 are players complaining about this vs 100 that think is a fair price.
Numbers don’t lie.

Seeing as everyone doesn’t post here and pretty much only those that want to share their opinions do. I’d say numbers do not matter.

You really think people want to make happy threads when they are constantly de-railed/high-jacked by someone else and then it just turns into a flame war?

When or if anet releases that amount of copies they have sold of HoT. Numbers will not really mean anything.

Really? number don’t mean anything? example of 3 players
1 player buy HoT = $50
2 leave because they think is not worth OR
3 players buy at $29 or $39 each.
Do the math genius.

Yes numbers don’t mean anything unless anet gives us a number of how many copies they sold.

Example:

So say the first day they sold 10,000 copies of HoT but have 4,000 threads of complaints. Which number is greater then?

Unless you know for a fact how many copies were sold you can not use numbers of threads to make your point. For all we know they may have sold 5 copies or maybe they even sold 50,000 copies.. We just don’t know.

Was that really hard to understand?

they sold 10000 at $50 each = $500k OR
they can sell 40000 copies at $39 each, you and I are assuming but looking at the forums you can see people are not happy and 4000 vs 100 is a HUGE difference.

Like I pointed out not everyone is going to come here and make a happy thread. Some players probably don’t even come to these forums. I’ve been playing for over two years yet my oldest post is from one year ago. I basically played the game for more than a year before even coming to these forums.

yeah people don’t make happy threads but 1500 post on REDDIT and 4000 post on a single thread here must be something right? plus all the articles about how players are raging about this.

I for one don’t even go to reddit. Those people I find are in their own little worlds. Not all of them so don’t mean to offend anyone that uses it.

I’ve also read a thread about someone that purchased HoT already but then from reading all the rage has had second thoughts. Now what was his reason for having second thoughts? Did he actually agree with everyone’s point or was it that he has seen so many people complaining that he felt he should just complain as well?

I think lots of people are complaining because so many others are complaining so why shouldn’t they complain.

Yeah now I know why you haven’t post anything in a year, read all the posts and find out why we all raging about this price thing.

Halan.7931:

Dinks.2478:

Mind your own kitten business then. People who don’t think it is worth it and who feel ripped off and who in general don’t like anets shady practices lately are voicing their opinion. If you don’t want to be told you’re wrong then stop telling people not to voice their kitten opinion as well.

You’re just playing hard to get. Either buy it, or don’t buy it. But no, you (and others) choose to whine, hoping to get something extra or just to make ANet feel bad.

Funny coming from someone asking for a ESO account to try it out, posting on GW2 forums lulz

briggah.7910:

xbutcherx.3861:

briggah.7910:

xbutcherx.3861:

briggah.7910:

xbutcherx.3861:

The funny part is that the main thread about this has 4100 posts which 4000 are players complaining about this vs 100 that think is a fair price.
Numbers don’t lie.

Seeing as everyone doesn’t post here and pretty much only those that want to share their opinions do. I’d say numbers do not matter.

You really think people want to make happy threads when they are constantly de-railed/high-jacked by someone else and then it just turns into a flame war?

When or if anet releases that amount of copies they have sold of HoT. Numbers will not really mean anything.

Really? number don’t mean anything? example of 3 players
1 player buy HoT = $50
2 leave because they think is not worth OR
3 players buy at $29 or $39 each.
Do the math genius.

Yes numbers don’t mean anything unless anet gives us a number of how many copies they sold.

Example:

So say the first day they sold 10,000 copies of HoT but have 4,000 threads of complaints. Which number is greater then?

Unless you know for a fact how many copies were sold you can not use numbers of threads to make your point. For all we know they may have sold 5 copies or maybe they even sold 50,000 copies.. We just don’t know.

Was that really hard to understand?

they sold 10000 at $50 each = $500k OR
they can sell 40000 copies at $39 each, you and I are assuming but looking at the forums you can see people are not happy and 4000 vs 100 is a HUGE difference.

Like I pointed out not everyone is going to come here and make a happy thread. Some players probably don’t even come to these forums. I’ve been playing for over two years yet my oldest post is from one year ago. I basically played the game for more than a year before even coming to these forums.

yeah people don’t make happy threads but 1500 post on REDDIT and 4000 post on a single thread here must be something right? plus all the articles about how players are raging about this.

And to make matter worse Chinese version was just release what? year ago? now think if they release this expansion next year at the same price they bought it for.

briggah.7910:

xbutcherx.3861:

briggah.7910:

xbutcherx.3861:

The funny part is that the main thread about this has 4100 posts which 4000 are players complaining about this vs 100 that think is a fair price.
Numbers don’t lie.

Seeing as everyone doesn’t post here and pretty much only those that want to share their opinions do. I’d say numbers do not matter.

You really think people want to make happy threads when they are constantly de-railed/high-jacked by someone else and then it just turns into a flame war?

When or if anet releases that amount of copies they have sold of HoT. Numbers will not really mean anything.

Really? number don’t mean anything? example of 3 players
1 player buy HoT = $50
2 leave because they think is not worth OR
3 players buy at $29 or $39 each.
Do the math genius.

Yes numbers don’t mean anything unless anet gives us a number of how many copies they sold.

Example:

So say the first day they sold 10,000 copies of HoT but have 4,000 threads of complaints. Which number is greater then?

Unless you know for a fact how many copies were sold you can not use numbers of threads to make your point. For all we know they may have sold 5 copies or maybe they even sold 50,000 copies.. We just don’t know.

Was that really hard to understand?

they sold 10000 at $50 each = $500k OR
they can sell 40000 copies at $39 each, you and I are assuming but looking at the forums you can see people are not happy and 4000 vs 100 is a HUGE difference.

briggah.7910:

xbutcherx.3861:

The funny part is that the main thread about this has 4100 posts which 4000 are players complaining about this vs 100 that think is a fair price.
Numbers don’t lie.

Seeing as everyone doesn’t post here and pretty much only those that want to share their opinions do. I’d say numbers do not matter.

You really think people want to make happy threads when they are constantly de-railed/high-jacked by someone else and then it just turns into a flame war?

When or if anet releases that amount of copies they have sold of HoT. Numbers will not really mean anything.

Really? number don’t mean anything? example of 3 players
1 player buy HoT = $50
2 leave because they think is not worth OR
3 players buy at $29 or $39 each.
Do the math genius.

Oldirtbeard.9834:

xbutcherx.3861:

Robotmoxie.4025:

Dude, read the news! You want a link “proving” something?

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/

Scroll this page for a WHILE.

You want to hear them talk about their new tech, and what the new classes can do?

https://www.youtube.com/user/arenanetofficial

Browse these videos for A WHILE.

Like, seriously. Follow their content updates! They keep telling us all this stuff that’s going to be in HoT, and people keep missing it because they don’t read the articles.

I’m not here to do your homework for you, but you can do all the homework you want, reading the blog posts and watching the videos to get all caught up on the features.

I’ll say again, Arenanet messed up by not giving us like, a rolling summary page or something, that updates with new features as they talk about them. Nobody knows what the heck’s going into this expansion because you have to read the friggin’ Library of Congress just to get it all figured out!

You really think they going to give you all that in 1 expansion? think again. Probably a year will pass before all that.

Think WoW’s content patches.

Never played WoW but from what I read and from personal experience from other games, this expansion has very little content.

The funny part is that the main thread about this has 4100 posts which 4000 are players complaining about this vs 100 that think is a fair price.
Numbers don’t lie.

MiniEquine.6014:

xbutcherx.3861:

Robotmoxie.4025:

Dude, read the news! You want a link “proving” something?

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/

Scroll this page for a WHILE.

You want to hear them talk about their new tech, and what the new classes can do?

https://www.youtube.com/user/arenanetofficial

Browse these videos for A WHILE.

Like, seriously. Follow their content updates! They keep telling us all this stuff that’s going to be in HoT, and people keep missing it because they don’t read the articles.

I’m not here to do your homework for you, but you can do all the homework you want, reading the blog posts and watching the videos to get all caught up on the features.

I’ll say again, Arenanet messed up by not giving us like, a rolling summary page or something, that updates with new features as they talk about them. Nobody knows what the heck’s going into this expansion because you have to read the friggin’ Library of Congress just to get it all figured out!

You really think they going to give you all that in 1 expansion? think again. Probably a year will pass before all that.

Funny thing is, that year will still be within the expansion. All of the future content updates are going to be for HoT, so if they have not released a new expansion in that time frame, then they will still be putting stuff out for HoT. We’ve been in a content drought because they are developing HoT, but after it gets released we will certainly see more.

Year AFTER the expansion is release.

Ranatoa.4869:

xbutcherx.3861:

Robotmoxie.4025:

I straight up just read the GW2 twitter feed and all the news posts on the main website. And watch the Points of Interest streams.

I’ve been doing so for months, and that’s where I got aaaaaaaaaall my information.

There’s a communication problem here on Arenanet’s end. I’d love it if they’d put All That Stuff I Mentioned into a single rap sheet of features that we can easily browse, but instead you gotta sift through months of news and videos.

and yet not a single link proving anything.

Here you go:
http://www.guildwars2.com

http://www.youtube.com/guildwars2

lulz!

Robotmoxie.4025:

Dude, read the news! You want a link “proving” something?

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/

Scroll this page for a WHILE.

You want to hear them talk about their new tech, and what the new classes can do?

https://www.youtube.com/user/arenanetofficial

Browse these videos for A WHILE.

Like, seriously. Follow their content updates! They keep telling us all this stuff that’s going to be in HoT, and people keep missing it because they don’t read the articles.

I’m not here to do your homework for you, but you can do all the homework you want, reading the blog posts and watching the videos to get all caught up on the features.

I’ll say again, Arenanet messed up by not giving us like, a rolling summary page or something, that updates with new features as they talk about them. Nobody knows what the heck’s going into this expansion because you have to read the friggin’ Library of Congress just to get it all figured out!

You really think they going to give you all that in 1 expansion? think again. Probably a year will pass before all that.

Harakael.5830:

Hi guys, gals and fellow quaggans,

I want to give you all my analisis on the HoT packages, im not trying to do this complicated, but to state some facts from a professional CRM & sales point of view, i looked for a feedback email but couldnt find any so here i am

I apologize on advance on my rusty english grammar

Anyways and first of all im not going to complain about prices, as i consider HoT cheap according to all the benefits and updates ANET has given all of us over time,

Just to state some of them you may have forgotten, or grown accustomed to:

We have a great community(For those who are in good servers :P)
Stable and competitive gaming world
Diversity of game modes PVE, PVP, WVW
Good Servers, low lag!! ( I live in Peru i should know)
Great Skin and Dye System
No P2W or P2P system

Being the last one i think one of the strongest brand loyalty assets the company has with us: clients, community, family or how you would like to refer to it.

Personally I would have never played GW2 if it was one of the previous commented, P2W or P2P, have played many mmorpgs of those and they done “work” like they should, that is why i try to help by gifting games to my friends, as any business person we all know we need to cover our fixed cost, wages, investments, servers, connectivity, and relying on Trading Post profits is alway hard as it is completely variable.

I wanted to state also that i am compelled, loyal, in love and totally addicted to GW2 in a good manner.

So, what happened with the HoT packages sale when i saw it.

50 USD for the expansion + core game for new users

Ok i must confess i laughed on people complaining by price, telling them, -”Hey it says it has a core client you won’t need, they will surely announce another pre-order offer for only expansion, im sure about it.”- Now i know i am wrong about it as i could finally read over it.

-continues below-

Stopped reading here ^