lol. S1->S2->S3->S4->S5->S6 and 4 year~ wake up ~ man. The population decrease time by time. The game kill by power creep , raid , balance , design. Game is gone and drop a sentence – They are fail. I’m just sorry for MIKE and GW1. Anyway, He employment too many genius to break his game.
If you still have any hope for this game. I am so surprised.
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DH is not really meta. Easily countered gameplay is easily countered. This is why it falls off in usage the higher you go.
Traps are triggered by pets/clones. Dodge through them.
Not sure why you’re mad, but just calm down and try different things. Unless you’re a necro, at which point get your minions to eat the traps and line of sight cheese.
OH god! pet? what? their trap CD all faster than you and begin CD when they have dropped the first one. if you want to beat a DH, just keep your range attack , make attention on their Spear of Justice and find a chance to burst them then all be fine. You don’t know what is the real problem – your teammate , DHs stack in every match , Double Triple Quadruple Test of Faith stack on point , blind per 0.5 sec , pull out pull in 5 sec+, all those kitten things make the game and fight become not fun more.
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NO. there have nothing both on PVP and PVE. People still kitten the balance in PVP and pass same keys to pass same raid week by week, day by day in PVE like a bot/zombie.
What does this word salad mean?
To answer your question OP, no they don’t use that single point of data for balance changes.
They look at season performances of different classes, sPvP data they gather, raiding and dungeon data to help them make balance decisions.
All of that made me wonder, how did warrior get buffed? crying thief
lol, if they have collect the data at least season, pls make something change on DH meta, change their brainless combat mode. Change something on trap.
sorry, here haven’t any change. We will still have DH hell god meta in next season. Traps still stack on point, pull out pull in block block blind blind spam the key together.
We have 4 DH meta season already, s1 s3 s4 s5, I don’t want more.
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NO. there have nothing both on PVP and PVE. People still kitten the balance in PVP and pass same keys to pass same raid week by week, day by day in PVE like a bot/zombie.
Sorry, the balance and skills design since HoT were BooM!~!! BOOM!~ BOOM~~!! HO GoD man Down!!! Save in A sec~~ Then~~ BooM!~!! BOOM! ~~~Man Down ~~ Ho My GoD!
You break the balance, The balance break you!
This game is dying, nothing can change.Lol ok, I guess? Again I do find it funny when people claim. That a PvE game is dying because it has very very bad PvP, no surprised there right. lol
GW2 will out survive both it’s PvP and WvW scenes and communities. As long as ANet keeps GW2 casual and handing out rewards for a fraction of a fraction of the work people have to put in for all of the rest of the MMORPGs on the market. GW2 will do fine.
Ya! gw2 will DO fine, it sure fine! ~~ Do you know what meaning on Q4 of whole year?
And HO! They have working hard on LS and Raid few months ago! Ho! GOD! Do you think PVP and WVW have no any effect on PVE? People play with friend. People play with other. This is a MMO. One leave all leave! And those leaving peoples will kitten your game on youtube, twitter, twitch, reddit….. Anyway, HoT is a SUPER POWERFULL BOOM!~!~!
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Sorry, the balance and skills design since HoT were BooM!~!! BOOM!~ BOOM~~!! HO GoD man Down!!! Save in A sec~~ Then~~ BooM!~!! BOOM! ~~~Man Down ~~ Ho My GoD!
You break the balance, The balance break you!
This game is dying, nothing can change.
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Do not always stay on the point that you will be a big target and the obstacles is your friend. Those are hits for Nec fight with Ranger.
and sorry, i am use dagger. lol
They are not OP in top base. I can use Nec kill them like a bady. They have good sustain but no good output combat. Thier burst are also easy to dodge and need many condition to make it done.
Serious, Who are care Top 250!? They can easy to handle every changes of balance from their skill. We talking about long term development, pls care the new player base. Who want to see the DH in everywhere? If no new blood join your game, all will be over!
That’s why my friend all leave this game. Anet haven’t give us see any hope again again and again. We just see another worst balance patch.
Agree!
Give everyone that F1 F2 F3 F4 block block block blind blind blind heal heal inv inv inv return again~ again~ then everyone with have a great build diversity.
I just hope Anet would give us a Real Balance but this is just a hope….
Seriously, they don’t have much time more.
Balance the game and introduce new expansion pack to save this game. That’s all they can do now….
I like the video…. but
Sorry,
“You break the balance , The balance break you! "
This is a truth and no game can leave alone. See the history.
When PvPer and WvWer leave this game then PvEer will follow.
This is a structural problem. This is a MMO. We play with friend and other. No Friend!? No people!? No Game!
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They(Anet) are not yet aware of their problems is Healer. MMO PVP should never put a Full Healer/Full Support(ELE) in the game. This will fix your build fix your class fix everything. You can reference the other failure MMO that name WoW. There never have a fair match under them.
Just a simple question:
How do you think a team have ELE vs a team no ELE in same level?
How do you sure every team have a ELE? How long are the queue time if you sure every team have a ELE and that ELE with a heal bot build?You should never put a full support in the PVP that you have a great balance before HoT. Now we see the ELE just a heal bot and he must be a heal bot.
If you are actually that worried about Team composition then maybe you should petition for Full 5v5 team queue instead of in the randomness that is Solo Queue, Just saying. Players make their choices when they queue on a class so let their choice be final, it’s simple and will give Anet a plethora of data to see what the Overused/overtuned classes and they can balance accordingly, this is compounded by the fact they allow players to Class stack and since certain classes Stack extremely well while others can’t is another disparity that needs to be addressed and actual balance can happen.
I don’t want to team queue or something about “team” more. I just want to say, their balance can’t support their change NOW. Nothing can bear their failure again and again. We see their NCSoft Q4 2016. They are going to a wrong way. Please Jesus please! Anet need to make a “Real Balance” “Huge Change” to save their game, Don’t give us that “Chilling Scythe: The aftercast of this ability has been reduced by 0.06 seconds.” more.
Seriously, we are not a X-man or Superman to handle that 0.06 sec with ping. This is not a joke.
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Just a simple question:
How do you think a team have ELE vs a team no ELE in same level?
How do you sure every team have a ELE? How long are the queue time if you sure every team have a ELE and that ELE with a heal bot build?
You should never put a full support in the PVP that you have a great balance before HoT. Now we see the ELE just a heal bot and he must be a heal bot.
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There are some main problem that “can not allow class stacking” cannot make any change for them. We can see
“Off + Def same time spam”
“Teef PI head shot+dodge spam”
“Warrior heal 1000hp per sec”
“block block block+heal heal heal+AOE+huge dmg range spam”
“block block block + burn YOU in A sec condi(50000-70000BUNING)”
Do you have confidence to balance them?
If not, pls let us stack and change class, I don’t want a fight that
“Have not yet begun to know the outcome”
I don’t have HoT Expansion.
-Loses to guardian
-Loses to revenant
-Loses to warrior
-Loses to thief
-Loses to ranger
-Loses to engi
-Stalemates ele
-Loses to mesmer
-Loses to necro
PVE still for Hard Core. What have they learned? What have they seen?
yay LS3 is too hardcore, lac doric is impossible omg omg.
fractals? only hardcore players can do them.
….Seriously? You shouldn’t touch others MMO then. Even raids in GW2 are casual friendly.
If the game is not fun for you it’s fine. But at least do some efforts with your criticism. GW2 is probably still the more casual friendly mmo available on the market as far as I know, and I played numerous others mmos (TESO/FFXIV/Aion/Tera/Rappelz/Jade Dynasty/Perfect World/WoW).
YA! LS is good for play and make me login 2 hours then afk or don’t touch PVE for 2-3 month again.
fractals??
what? fractals?? If you still play it day by day. I admire your perseverance very much.
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The game is not fun. This is the main reason.
My PVP friends all leave this game because that brainless skill spam.
HoT is a totally fail patch.
Skill and Class balance are broken from HoT. This is a basal system of the game. They design many absurd skills and haven’t assessed the result. Then PVP and WVW are decline. In other side, PVE become a hard core game to get rid of the new player and normal player. They said they had learned from HoT. However, after 10 months later, Skill and class still ridiculous. PVE still for Hard Core. What have they learned? What have they seen?
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Just one simple questions – if Anet let us team Q + solo Q. Then everyone will be happy. This also don’t a difficult work and they have done it since 2012. What is their consideration to make them cancel team Q + solo Q?
Decision never make from one people in a company.
They have data
They have discussion
They have consideration
What they do that mean What they lose.
1. We back to see S4 team vs team – The system chooses the team vs team first . Then we have a crazy queue time in top. Anet decide to cut team queue and pull the poll out. The poll is guide people to choose. That all they(Anet) want. That why they don’t give you a Poll that Name -Should We have Team Queue and Solo Queue? Because they do not have that enough PLAYER BASE! . Do you want queue time destroy both sides?
2. Balance problem. You can not make sure there have a supporter, ADC, defender in every team at solo queue. Let’s us see S5 class stack together. But in team, that is not problem. We can see S1 to S4, Anet hard to want people to make a team and guide them make a team. But Sorry, less people want to build a team is a real. How to balance both sides? Don’t do anything? Remake those balance form each class? How about PVE that kittening Raid?
The role of Viewer in the system. Viewer number show many things. You also can see the viewer number of lol, dota, csgo …. those successful game.
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1. GUILD Wars is not about guild. This guild not that guild. See the history to know why the name is Guild Wars.
2. Pls don’t say team more under that kittening less player base. Here just have team vs solo or crazy queue time. That’s all.
3. Balance from 1v1 before HoT. Now? Balance 5v5 after HoT then cut the team queue. LOL, 100% surely get suck .
dang man. that’s so well reasoned & so flawless grammatically i’ve reconsidered my whole position /s
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still, i’d love to know what crystal ball you’ve been using to find out that the population can’t support team queue. personally i’m unsure if the population would be able to sustain the queue, but i’d actually like to find out.
Viewer of twitch, esl, wts, youtube , queue time and that 70% NO TEAM QUEUE MORE poll. Anet would not give you a number but something you can find out for reference.
Sorry, eng is not my main language.
1. GUILD Wars is not about guild. This guild not that guild. See the history to know why the name is Guild Wars.
2. Pls don’t say team more under that kittening less player base. Here just have team vs solo or crazy queue time. That’s all.
3. Balance from 1v1 before HoT. Now? Balance from 5v5 after HoT. Add the full support , ADC , Defender…. then cut the team queue. LOL, 100% surely get suck .
1+2+3 = there should not have team queue and return the plan that before HoT to build up that kitten poor less player base first. Then we can talk something about team queue after that.
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Anet put many sustain , AoE , passive in HoT and reduce skill requirement. They want to let Low skill player / New player have something fight will veterans. Unfortunately, veteran use them like a hacker and make New / low player feel hopeless.
I have say a lot of times, This is not a balance problem. This is a design problem. Gw2 game mode Point stand + AoE + off&def same time + candi stack spamm —- you cannot get any balance in both side under those ridiculous condition. New player or Low skill player who don’t know ALL CLASS ALL SKILL rotation don’t have any chance. They can not even hurt the veteran in that block block block inv inv move out dodge dodge blind blind heal heal move in system and die in sec for that ridiculous damage / AoE. They even don’t know how to die by crazy condi stack .
They are in CSGO may be kill a veteran by a lucky shot and get satisfaction. But here, sorry
veteran100-0 newbie <—- THIS IS THE PROBLEM! If a game 100-0 that mean no/less new player will join and stay.
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PvP and WvW are the parts those don’t need input a lot of resources but can get great return. You no need to do many 3D character model /dungeon design/ Map building / dub / story writing / reward….. If you make them better. You will get long game life / stable player base and a lot of time to build up the PVE. That’s why no one want to make MMORPG more and turn to make MOBA. Unfortunately, Anet don’t handle it.
WvW and PvP are TWO parts of this game those need class/skill balance. But HoT Power creep, Raid and skill design destroy them. Those AoE , condi stack, block inv dodge, passive skill, off+def same time spam….. make them confusing and boring to watch/play.
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If I need a ADC, Why I choose ELE? ELE has got the mark of Healing. It came from HoT. Came from Power Creep. No one can make it change!
Anet should never give a full healer in PVP. That is their fault. You can see HoT from a bunker meta to now the damage out of control. That’s all about Healing Problem. You can refer Other failed MMO PVP – WoW.
Healer leave PvP alone
This is NOT a balance problem , BUT—-
If there have 2-6 DH in every match. What do you feel?
I have said this is DH meta when S3 and S4 already.
I can see the next season NOW, lol.
Woo deathmatch!
Before HoT this is OK.
But you are in this paper->rock->scissors HoT now.
Too many inv, block, dodge. All meta class off+def same time spam now. What do you think on ele? Let’s them join that spamming pool or bring celestial amulet back or give them block block block blind blind blind like DH?
This is HoT. No block No dodge No inv that mean you are a glass! you don’t have Damage!
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Hi all,
We’re wrapping up work on Episode 4 of Living World Season 3 and expect to launch it in February, hitting our normal cadence of a new episode every 2~3 months. I want to give a quick heads-up here on a few topics that I know the community is anticipating, things that will and won’t be bundled with this episode.
This release will include the promised fix to AB multi-looting. The fix is simple: you can loot each of the great and grand chests once each time you complete the meta, once per map cycle.
This release will also include a new, challenging group-farming spot for leather.
This release won’t include legendary armor. We’re getting close to completion, though, and may be able to ship legendary armor with the Ep5 release.
This release won’t include a skill balance update. As we did last time, we’ll ship the next skill balance update off-cycle from Living World releases.
Mo
Something about PVP and WVW skill balance.
Offense is Offense
Defense is Defense
Pls don’t make them spam in same time.
PVP like a boxing before HoT.
Now became a affray since HoT.
ESL/WTS/Twitch is losing too many viewer….
Your skill designers are destroying your game ….
I don’t know you know or not, but pls save your/our game ….
Next Expansion = Another Power Creep
The only thing i learned from the past is that people resposible for class changes apparently can’t differ between serious and joke posts (anyone remember satirical thief nerf wishlist thread that was created purely for making jokes yet dev team actually took it serious and implemented most absurd changes? devs think DH traps are fine but choking gas is OP /smh)
Given that experience, i am afraid Henry will probably get his wish granted regardless how absurd it is. Time to join DH band wagon, screw skilled gameplay, embrace the faceroll!
@xeonage.1253: please get your numbers straight. What you posted is not true. I suggest you to visit GW2 wiki.
It is true, believe me. if you a thief you should know how to do 9xdodge 2×1200 in a fighting. Anyway, In this post, you are OP.
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Thief doesn’t have that many stunbreaks.
Why I can stun breaks every 12 sec with 2sec block? Why? May I get bug in this game?
and I want to know what other class can stun breaks every 12 sec?
That’s 1 stunbreak firstly, which doesn’t even matter if you’re stun chained i.e. warrior’s headbutt then taunt proc on entering zerk form. 1 stun break isn’t enough to not get you killed from the incomming burst hit. Also, want to know other classes with 12 second stun breaks? Probably none. Though I bet you’d like to know 2 classes with 10 second stun breaks. Warrior’s outrage and Revenant’s traited legend swap. Not to mention revenant’s no cooldown stunbreak utility skill in shiro which can be spammed.
12 sec SB + 2sec block with 9 dodge + 2×1200 range mobility. If a stun can get you kill. This is unbelievable.
As a NEC, don’t want to chase the Teef. You just put 5 ring under yourself and pray Teef don’t go to find you. This is all you can do.
I have to say, some Pro player always say CC → Burst → Teef down~CC!? What!? Are you fight with L2P teef!?
Thief doesn’t have that many stunbreaks.
Why I can stun breaks every 12 sec with 2sec block? Why? May I get bug in this game?
and I want to know what other class can stun breaks every 12 sec?
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Welcome to HoT off+def same time spam.
You will have your great time to feel the pain.
Pvp on December 2014: 10k players, was the max of all time in that moment.
Pvp on January of 2017: Only gw2 efficiency had 25k players with skill rating.
Games not dying, has its problems and you are bored, but that doesnt mean its dying. Self delusional could be used to:
thinking issues= dying and i think/feel that its dying = its dying.In any case, hope your pvp crisis pass and you continue to play.
Pd: Not my main language.
Or see this NCsoft 2014.4Q to NCsoft 2016.3Q
I have to say, this is very pitiful…..