So you ground out stuff. And you were happy to ground out stuff.
I got the max titles for the skills so I could have BIS skills on many characters including Sunspear, Lightbringer, Norn, Asura, Deldrimor and Ebon Vanguard.
And if you say those skills didn’t mean a whole lot more to GW 1 PvE than BIS gear here, I’d say you were dead wrong. Do you know why Anet limited those skills to 3 per skill bar? Because even with three you were too OP to play normal content. If you could have 5 or 6 of those skills you’d be unbeatable.
So you say over and over again my gear was the best, but your skills weren’t. And yet somehow that’s okay with you. The question is why are skills and grinding out that different from gear.
I say it’s in your head.
I didn’t completely answer your question when you asked me the same thing so I thought about it a bit more.
The biggest difference I see between the EotN skills and Ascended gear is that the skills did not replace something that players previously did or earned. They did not make anything else purchased obsolete. While some people may feel Exotics are cheap and easy to obtain, not everyone feels that way and is one of the reasons they may complain about the added vertical progression.
Another thing is that the PvE skills were named that because they were not allowed in any form of PvP. That is also not the case for Ascended gear and is why some of the WvW crowd is upset. Especially as that gear was not available at the same time in that game mode.
The last thing that came to mind is that GW1 was very dependent on specific builds. Some builds took advantage of PvE skills, others did not. Gear is not optional. Everyone has to wear it. It will affect every event, challenge, build decision, etc. Many outcomes and decisions are impacted by a gear change.
I’ll see if I can stir up any additional thoughts.
Anet seperated PvP into WvW and SPvP and said, from the very beginning, WvW was never meant to be balanced. That’s why gear is allowed in WvW.
I don’t think exotics are so expensive that it’s such an issue that we have to replace them…particularly because the content doesn’t require it to be replaced.
As for the skills in Guild Wars 1…they were still more neccesary (or at least they’ll make a bigger difference in the long term, than ascended weapons will.
Thats why youll see “transended” weapons next year. Its a gear tremill, no point in denying it.
Sorry but without the content requiring the upgrade it’s not a treadmill. If I don’t need that gear to play the game…then it’s not a treadmill.
I played Rift. I needed a specific amount of focus to queue for a dungeon. Not to beat it…to queue for it.
That’s why I say it’s not a treadmill. In games with gear treadmills there’s a new tier of gear every 3-4 months. If Anet introduced a tier of gear every year and a half, slowly in stages, I wouldn’t call it a treadmill.
I would. Because one treadmill is set at a shallower incline than the other one does not make it “not a treadmill.” People get on real treadmills not because they want to go somewhere, but because they want a result — usually, cardio. A lot of them dislike the process (reading or listening to music to distract themselves), but they want the result.
It’s not about needing the gear, either. It’s about keeping the players who can go to other games to feed their playstyle, while hoping that the ones who don’t want this crap will stay anyway, because there’s nowhere else to go. Don’t you defend so many aspects of GW2 so vehemently because this game gives you enjoyment you cannot find in other games? So, you don’t value having BiS gear. There are people who do.
But a treadmill, by definition, never ends. So if legendary is the final tier, then it can’t be a treadmill, because it’s final. That’s a definition.
You can call a bird a stone, but a bird isn’t a stone.
nice analogy
There won’t be another gear set. Here’s why: see the image below? That’s a CMYK color wheel. ANet starts their gear out with Cyan, moves to Green? Then Yellow, Red (actually a red-orange), Magenta (ascended), and blue (which is actually blue-violet AKA Legendaries). They’ve got both the primary and secondary colors, and now there’s nothing else to add.
..Thus ends this terrible argument that there will be any kind of gear treadmill. You can see from the gap at launch, which was missing magenta, that ascended gear was planned far before launch during the initial colorizing of gearsets.
Ill bet you next tier will be teal
So you’re saying that there will be a tier above legendary? Not likely.
Well, until level cap they will just raise legendary to new stats just like ascended. They made legendaries tradable for a reason. Imagine how much $$ is potentionally 1 legendary worth
you keep saying ppl buy legendaries do you have any numbers to back up the claim or it is one of those things players say to make themselves feel better?
In games like path of exile where an idiot pays up to 10k just to design an in game item.I wouldnt be surprise there will be quite a number of people buying legendaries in this game.
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Everyone seems to look only on the dirty side. Up side is it extends game’s longevity. This game almost has no progression once you hit 80 or 400 in crafting.
There is no progression in treadmilling. Crafting is the most tedious, boring, uncreative part of the game. That you now get to craft to 500 is not a positive.
Many people are being negative because time and again Anet emphasized that this game would be about horizontal progression. That you would reach max stats, and from there you would play to experience content not to grind to the next bigger-than-max stats. But that’s exactly what they did.
Unfortunately, there is. There are people who want the “best” in game – meaning they want to get the max out there – and this one answers for that “want” in crafting.
It’s becoming stagnant – soon everyone would go max and people will get bored. They need something to work on – and this is one of it.
gl grindig