Guild Wars 2

I have been told about a possible exploit that can cause the game to crash for everyone on a map.

I will not post the exploit here (in order to prevent even more people abusing it).

FYI, this post is just to inform the devs that I have submitted a report of this via the online Support form. The Support Request is #484926.

About 10 of us just reported an Bronze Invader Ehmry Bay thief from GF guild who was teleport hacking so badly it was obvious to even the new players in wvw. gg.

Kaineng – you guys really wanted Durios back!

I don’t think I’ve ever seen so much siege used to retake a wooden tower before: 4 catas, 2 trebs, and a varierty of arrow carts and ballistas. Your entire EB team must have been at Durios.

Over an hour long too, that was one hell of a siege.

For all practical purposes some of these are impossible to achieve.

IMO, 500k Stonemist defenses is impossible except in theory. People who think it’s a long term goal are deceiving themselves. Even the 2.8 years theoretical “best” time is way, way too generous.

To defend SMC every 3 minutes your team not only has to be holding SMC but it also has to be under attack non-stop.

Even if someone treated GW2 like a job and played it 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, and your team somehow held SMC 50% of the time while it was constantly under attack, it would still take 24 years to get 500k defenses.

GW2 servers will be long gone before that ever happens.

Right now in T2 SoS is currently scoring 45k against FA’s 63k.

For comparison, FA’s last T3 match ended with a score of 313k against DB’s 162k and YB’s 125k. Unless all the guilds jump ship from SoS there’s no way you’re dropping to T8.

SpitFire.4690:

[RISE]…
P.S. Thanks to [Meow] 1st hills reinforcements and [WM] for 2nd hills reinforcements!

The fights we had on hills were the most fun I’ve had in weeks. That last attack where WM reinforce you guys was really good. And to top it off 20 SoS also rushed into hills at the last minute to make it a 3-way fight. We were pretty happy when the claim completed and the gates closed with all three teams still inside

I ran with an unskilled zerg last night and we took YB hills and garrison in 30 minutes. We had no plan, no commmunication and no rams. Unskilled zergs ftw!

Most of OG’s strategy is based on 2+ d/d eles unloading all their burst damage on lone players and then running if they don’t insta-win.

Having any amount of confusion affecting them ruins their ganking method. Rather than do what everyone else does (ie, remove the confusion, not burst a dozen skills at once while confused, or just avoiding the bubbles) they complain instead. This is an OG l2p problem.

The last day or two have been pretty fun. After a slow start DB has started bringing a lot of pressure to FA.

Constantly flipping our towers in EB and even getting to our keep’s lord’s room several times. At the moment DB towers are all upgraed in EB while FA’s are all wooden. If someone didn’t know the score they’d assume DB was winning!

Ballistas and golems have an aoe cap of 10. All other siege (including cannons) is 50.

PaulV.3245:

@ Maniac
- I see what guilds you rep sir.
Tell me, did they happen to be on at that time…. I wonder.

I do not expect any constructive arguments or explanation as to this behavior; I am just pointing out a fact – a fact that you conveniently left out w/ your select choice of cut/paste.

You do realise the PRO guild from the screenshot is a Dragonbrand guild and that Maniac is from a totally different PRO guild on FA?

daphoenix.4283:

Heres my gear set I usually use and its respective stats, since everyone always asks :P.
Also will put more analysis since everyone likes to theorycraft

http://imgur.com/yDEDhdX

I use full knights armor usually. Sometimes I’ll run PVT armor in fractals with Clerics accessories w/ 3% crit dmg jewels if I need to survive more often. I use full berserkers with rubies (2% critical damage, 14 precision, 20 power) if I know I won’t take any hits from the enemies.

Your image shows you have +70% boon duration.

Normally that requires mean water + monk runes. How are you getting such high boon duration while slotting jewels in your armor (or am I misreading your specs and the pic is for your runes set and the jewels are for alternate sets)?

GottFaust.5297:

It’s so aggressive, in fact, that it can sometimes cull up to fully half of the allied players you would normally see. This leads, understandably, to the illusion that there are far fewer allied players than there used to be.

Seriously, you think all these people reporting queue problems are standing amidst a crowd of culled, unseen allies and not realising it?

If this were the case we’d be seeing lots of reports of people seeing dozens of green dots on their mini-maps whilst not seeing the actual players themselves. This isn’t happening.

Enenion.8127:

A couple of things. First your math is incorrect because it doesn’t factor in leap years, and there would be at least one in a six year period.

Well, you can actually have 7 years straight without a leap year (although I doubt anyone will be playing GW2 when this next occurs).

OutspokenAardvark.9781:

JaredKincade.9761:

Flawed Victory.4321:

DivineBeing.2086:

Flawed Victory.4321:

DivineBeing.2086:

That’s just it. We have improved. I am noticing some much better organization from ALL of the guilds. Many of them have started really learning from each other by creating specific roles and builds to compliment the entire zerg.

Here is the facts though. SoR was vsing TC and SBI. SBI is a dead server. So SoR, with there new and improved night crew, completely stomped TC (who has NO night crew) into the ground.

We are fighting FA and TC right now. TC did get some transfers but that’s not a big deal. The huge difference in this match up is that FA received 90% of the IoJ night crew, if not all of them. IoJ was ridiculous in the oceanic timezone. FA has always been pretty good in NA prime time, so adding a night crew makes them a force.

This means our night crew isn’t able to reach the 600 PPT it did last time we were matched up against SoR and TC (both didn’t have any night crews). And by the time we logged in, all our keeps, along with some enemy ones, were fully upgraded. So it was a matter of holding as much as you can.

I don’t agree with that. better organization? really? you lost your garrison, just. without anyone noticing i bet. it happened before, and it is still happening now.

Expecting us to never lose a tower/keep is unrealistic expectations, especially considering the dynamics of your opponents. We aren’t the only ones who can improve, other servers can too.

Anyways, you obviously have your mind completely set on this notion so any discussion to convince you otherwise is futile and a waste of time. So, this will end here.

Anyways, score update please? I like to keep track of the scores throughout the day to see how our crew is doing in each timezone.

Thanks!

Will end. Just want you to know, try to accept others opinions and don’t shut your door tight. Being content with current situation never get you further.
I did mention TC and FA are stronger. They improved and are improving. They have upgoing learning curve but BG’s just seems to be flat. I assume you understand the word parallel. I understand what you’re trying to say. But please just chill and think from every angle.

How can you possibly say our learning curve is flat, you’ve played us for one week. Lets have this discussion after 8 weeks of play hmm? You don’t have the slightest frame of reference here to form an opinion.

You cannot compare SORs point gap with BGs in tier 2 because they were fighting one opponent, and neither opponent had oceanic coverage, FA does.

You are trying to make conclusions based on unreliable facts. Just like I can’t say how much FA has improved since last week. I do know, its been fun playing against two servers put together (Isle of Aspenwood), plus TC.

I believe all three of you who are arguing are from BG.

This is pure win.

BG: Whenever we break into a keep to take it back from TC you guys seem to appear out of nowhere.

It’s like our wall breaches are a magical portal that summons Blackgate invaders to the party. It’s funny how we take something back from TC and end up sweeping for BG mesmers.

IRSyKo.5843:

NA primetime wasn’t FAs weakest slot lol, oceanic primetime was.

Yes, Oceanic time used to be very bad for FA. Now our weakest period is the late Asian and EU prime time.

oZii.2864:

Best roaming Group I seen on Mags was AON that is all I have to add to this thread

Agreed, AON are a great roaming guild.

Mike.7320:

I clearly saw two OG in the video, certainly not a roaming party and certainly not enough to make up for 5v2 og and up lvls that i continuously saw. also randoms floated in and out from FA the entire fight.

Nope it’s definitely 3 OG. Watch the video more carefully. At one point all 3 are downed at the same time. It’s not mesmer clones.

As I stated in my post, I’ve never seen you guys until tonight. So this is the only time I’ve ever fought you.

In my post I never said anything about owning you or being better than you. You’ve been posting in this thread about FA only zerging and being outnumbered all the time so I posted a fight showing small equal numbers (you actually outnumbered us each time). It has nothing to do with any other fights.

Mike.7320:

Aside from aoe you had next to zero single target abilities so dont act like you where the person downing people with 2k hits here and there

What? That’s the dumbest statement ever.

Besides, watch my stacks they go up 7 times. I only have a stacking sigil on my dagger.

I keep reading posts from this OG guild but I’ve never met them…until tonight. Here’s a vid of our encounter. (NB: My guild has almost no spvp/tpvp players and certainly makes no claims about being good at roaming fights).

Initially 4 FA vs 5 Maguuma. After we retook our supply camp it was 5 FA vs 6 Maguuma (it’s hard to tell if they had more as they kept spreading out, but you can certainly see at least these tags — 3 OG + MUG + SKIL + PXP).

My main concern during this entire video was retaking our supply camp. TBH, I can’t see any justification to the claims that Maguuma’s roaming gankers are any better than FA or Dragonbrand players.

Rhyis.7058:

Maguuma has spent it’s entire WvW lifetime losing. We like losing and we know how to defend. If you can’t crack the egg that is Maguuma, maybe you should hit DBs borderlands.

If you look at the last 10 matches (not including this one):

Maguuma won 4 of its matches and only came last in 2.

Fort Aspenwood only won 1 match and was last in 5.

I think Mag are in for a surprise when we hit Oceanic time. Even FA was taken by surprise by NNK guild the first time we faced DB.

Ninein.4782:

Maguuma: 4 map queue reset, 2 map queue NA primetime, 0 map queue offhours
FA: 4 map queue reset, 3.5 map queue NA primetime, 1.5 map queue offhours

Kaineng can fill in the blank for comparison.

FA has more like a 2 map queue during NA prime time and 1 map queue for Oceanic hours. And our queue during Oceanic hours is only when we move the bulk of our team to one map (eg, we had a queue last night when we called guilds over to do a golem rush in EB).

From what I’ve picked up Kaening is going to dominate (at least numbers wise) both FA and Maguuma when it reaches our tiers.

I will confirm that FA has had at least two reasonably large sized guilds transfer to us in the last day or so. A big welcome on board to our new arrivals

akanibbles.6237:

From an oceanic point of view, which server is best to join?
Do both IoJ and CD have reasonably presence at this time (around 1am to 5am PST)?

IoJ is one of the unofficial Oceanic servers and should have a good Oceanic prescence. However Oceanic hours is my main play time and FA has been doing about the same as IoJ in these hours over the last two weeks.

Kman.7358

Pdox, pDyn and HAX have been on CD for a while. I remember seeing them around, but not in massive numbers.

The guilds I listed were all from the registered history in the last 5 days. Some of those may have been on CD for a while but only registered last week for some reason (perhaps due to geting larger).

RyuDragnier.9476:

If I were to guess, just one thing cropped up this week that wasn’t there last week…college. College started this week, and that might explain the turnout and numbers…

All servers have people in college. That’s not something unique to CD.

More likely the difference between this week and last week can be seen from the registered guild transfers.

For tier 3 the new guild transfers and registers in the last five days are:

Crystal Desert’s new guilds:
– [BOR] Baghatur of Ragnarok
– [pDyn] Primeval Dynasty
– [HAX] Hollow Ataraxia Malaysia
– [TALE] Paperback Novel
– [CTRL] Subliminal Messages
– [Pdox] Paradox Prophets
– [AGGF] Agogo Frawers
– [LoM] Legion of Malice

Isle of Janthir’s new guilds:
– [MMAD] Methods in the Madness

Fort Aspenwood’s new guilds:
– None
(FA actually lost one guild, [FCF] Flying Clams Forever).

Hekatombaion.4320:

If we want to do this hit squad thing to actually show them that they should spend some time on the IoJ border then we need some later-morning players to really abuse the FA map an decimate their infantry.

This is the exact opposite to what you should do if you want FA to visit IoJ BL more often. In fact, for a couple of weeks CD tended to favour attacking FA BL, so our natural response was to return the favour.

To be honest, one of the reasons some of us go to CD BL is because IoJ is already there. If CD went to IoJ BL more often we’d probably do the same on IoJ.

Kman.7358:

I believe he was talking about WOLF. We got another new guild alongside them I believe but the name escapes me.

Tonight I saw two CD guilds that I didn’t t recognise from our previous two match ups. One was EA (Electronic Arts). The other one I can’t remember exactly but it was something like OBL.

ULTD – It’s a real shame for FA to lose such an organised guild from our prime time. We’re going to miss having you guys around.

Great fun in FA BL tonight, so many IoJ from Never Die and Avatar. Lots of good fights outside Greenbriar, Godsword and Hills.

Waking.6052:

Golem ‘rushes’ on IOJ can be anywhere from 5 minutes to 1 hour in the making. It depends on what the guilds and alliance are doing.

Here’s a short video of IOJ’s golem rush on Greenbriar in FA BL a couple of hours ago. You guys brought six golems (maybe 5, it’s hard to tell) and the NPC commander Siegerazor to Greenbriar and did about 1% damage to the gate.

I think these were the worst piloted golems I’ve ever seen. They spent more time spinning around trying to hit defenders than they did hitting the gate.

Heinel.6548:

And now CD is outmanned in all maps. Does IoJ and FA not have holiday obligations at all? VISIT YOUR FAMILY!!

Haha, best post in this thread so far

We may be coming third but this match up has been the most fun I’ve had in WvW for a long time.

I’m an FA player and I was going to join the dolyak march (with my mystery tonic) but was unable to as I was working at that time.

I just wanted to say I’m very disappointed to hear that some FA players thought they’d get some kicks out of ruining other people’s fun.

You were asked in team chat to NOT attack this one group (which included members from FA as well). There was nothing to gain by attacking this event other than to get some selfish laughs at everyone else’s expense.

Those who say WvW is pvp and this stuff belongs in PvE completely missed the point — doing this in a PvP area was the entire point of showing good sportsmanship.

In fact, you had 3 options -

1. Leave them alone.
2. Join them.
3. Grief them.

I think the fact that a group of you chose the third option reflects badly on both the players themselves and their guilds.

ktith.6197:

We have made a decision and will be transitioning to the Maguuma server over the course of this week as we find the server open to move onto. Thanks again for all the feedback and a peering into the rivalry that exists here.

Maguuma is a great choice. They are one of my favourite opponents.

From my experience playing against both Mag and Yaks I’d say Mag’s numbers are quite a bit lower than Yaks. However, Mag have some great (and sometimes weird) tactics and are almost like the gate keepers for tier 4.

DivineBeing.2086:

@phaeneo
It’s not use arguing with these guys about the alliance even though multiple posts have confirmed there was a party with FA/CD commanders in order to take over TC BL.

I certainly wasn’t arguing with Phaeneo. I posted from the POV of an FA player who was actually there for the FA attack on TCBL last night. I think he appreciated having someone from FA post their POV of what happened.

I don’t know why people think there was a party of FA/CD commanders. I was one of only about 10 FA players in TC BL for the first hour of our attack. I was also in teamspeak with the only FA commander in TC BL for this entire time. We had no contact whatsoever with CD during our entire time there (other than when we attacked each other later on).

phaneo.4597:

Was there an alliance in TCBL? It was openly admitted.

I was one of the first FA players in TC BL when we started attacking, so I’ll clear up what I know from the FA side.

First off — there was no alliance in TCBL last night.

About 10 of us ported from EB to TC BL because we saw CD was attacking bay there. We thought it would be a good time to try and retake some of our stuff.

There was absoltely no communication between the 10 of us who ported to TC BL and the CD players there.

All we did was attack our side of the map, first retaking Redlake tower and then going for the hills keep. During this entire time CD was fighting at the bay, and we had no intention of going to that side as we had so few people.

Just as we took down the western wall of the hills keep a bunch of other people from our guild joined us. We also had a fair number from other guilds like JPN. We progressed up our side of the map while CD was going up theirs, not because of an alliance but because it was the path of least resistance. At no time did any of us talk to any CD players on the TC BL.

Lanimal.6541:

4. TC Water Gate – Called out that FA had suddenly gone very quiet after they got initially repelled at Cragtop. I actually said “they are probably going to golem rush water gate, its too quiet”. No one watched it :/, a golem rush is very easy to nullify (wreck in a few minutes) @ water gate if we had eyes on it.

To be fair it wasn’t the water gate we attacked. We took 8 golems to the SE gate of your garrison. TC knew we were around cragtop and garrison, and the watergate is a kill box if defenders are in position with siege. Also, after leaving cragtop we made sure to take out all your siege at the SE gate before running off to build golems.

ninjambo.3784:

If you guys (TC) weren’t hacking today to retake SMC 4+ times within 5 minutes FA taking it, then hats off to your mesmers. I guess CD and FA are gonna have to get better at playing hide and seek :/

I’m confident in saying TC are legit on this, we’ve seen their mesmers using a very good hiding spot within inner SMC that only a few of us seem to catch. It’s up top and a quick run around the upper area, just scanning the top as you do a lap, will not spot them.

Any of the NA tier 3 servers would meet your criteria — FA, TC or YB.

I’d also recommend any of the tier 4 servers, especially Maguuma. They are a good server with spirit and a few more guilds could start to make them competitive for tier 3.

This was occurring a lot last week and when I saw a bunch ballistas and arrow carts placed uselessly in EB I questioned whether someone was deliberately doing it to max our siege cap and waste supply.

This had a severe impact on our ability to take and hold stuff in EB, and is having the same impact this week. For example, we took both Klovan and Wildcreek last week but were unable to place any arrow carts for defence because we were at the siege cap. It was incredibly hard to hold anything we took.

The only way we could get around this was to allow our keep to be breached so attackers could wipe all the useless siege.

As the OP has stated, this is game ruining as it essentially prevents a server from being able to attack or defend new holdings (and even gives other servers the idea that we’re deliberately not defending when it’s really because we can’t defend properly).

A thumbs up to the Yaks Bend players who persisted for so long, and so hard, in FA BL to retake Redvale from us. That siege at Redvale supply camp went literally for hours, longer than most keep sieges!

Thanks for the intense fighting this week. It was funny to see huge fights at SMC and it changing hands from FA → YB → TC in the last hour or so of the match as well

Salutes to all FA, TC and YB players who maintained fought bravely this week.

Nut.4713:

Sure thing. Let’s agree that FA stop creating straw men then. Deal? Glad that’s settled.

A moderator has already said they’ve had to moderate excessive trolling. If all you want to do is post insults and antagonise people start a new thread and do it there.

Just recorded 2 from Yaks Bend ALT-F4ing on me in the middle of a fight, then one from TC almost immediately after. Wow, really getting out of hand.

Bedinar.1754:

I think the portal bombs are a new trick to be honest, one that we learned from TC this week. I had never seen more than one portal bomb before this week. Just my 2 cents though.

YB were doing them all the time when we first played them. TOG guild in particular tried to portal bomb us every time we met for the first couple of days.

ykyk.2740:

From the point of view of TC, you guys have much more than us (and sometimes Yak’s combined!) during that time period. Yesterday in fact we were barely above outmanned on one map, outmanned on the other and had all our players shuffle between TCBL/EB desperately defending key objectives to stop the FA onslaught We’re used to it though, matching against CD for 2 weeks already.

It seems all servers have the same feeling about their Oceanic numbers

For the example you gave from yesterday, we had one particular guild that went to TC BL to take stuff. Then when you guys all transferred there to defend your garrison we quickly moved to EB to take SMC. If you exclude that one guild we pretty much wouldn’t have had any prescence at all on TC BL all night, and certainly wouldn’t have taken SMC in EB.

I think most servers have a pretty low Oceanic presence so the few players who are on have a noticable impact if they are careful in what they attack.

ALT-F4 is happening a lot now. The first time I really noticed it was 2 or 3 matches ago, one particular team had a lot of players doing it. I’d never really seen it before that match. Now I’m seeing it from every team we play. Seems like once one server starts doing it all the others say “What the hell, I will too”.

It’s a bad precedent that’s now become standard for kitten players.

IRSyKo.5843:

Just talked to the guild leader of OBEY. Can confirm they are in the process of moving thier members to FA. He said they are a PvE focused guild but does WvW at times. they usually field between 20 to 30 in WvW.

Hi IRSyKo, do you know what time slot they usually play in (US prime time, Oceanic or EU)?

sceptus.9415:

You need NA players more than you need Oceanics. You are losing more points in the day and you have a huge zerg at night. Just saying, not trying to be mean or cause any bad feelings, but its my observation from playing you folks this week. What you need to do is teach your already great night zerg how to defend its territory. Add some NAs to your server and you have a tier 2 or 1 game going on.

Your are wrong about FA’s Oceanics. We have very few of them.

We are usually outmanned on 3 of the 4 WvW maps during Oceanic hours. One or two guilds have a reasonable number of players (15+) in this time period and the maps they go to are the only ones we aren’t outmanned on. It’s only because they skip between maps during Oceanic time that it looks like we have a reasonable force.

The FA recruitment thread just confirmed OBEY moved to FA. It also stated they are primarily a PvE guild, and from the numbers I’m hearing very few of them do WvW.