Wait…there are WvW veterans from launch still here? According to other WvW veterans, you all left after HoT and the DBLs came out…:P
lol, yeah I guess that is the popular contention these days.
The thing about this game for me is that I will always come back. I might go on a two to three day hiatus to play PUBG or something but I will always come back to roam and run groups with my guild. People over dramatize everything, but the game is an excellent MMO and even RvR despite everything. I just want to help improve it if I can.
As a wvw veteran speaking on behalf of other wvw veterans I would like to submit a formal complaint that many many pve players have been voting in the poll, thus voiding the results.
Please restart the poll, and send an email invitation to vote on this to all legitimate wvw veterans, including the ones who have not played wvw up to 2 years ago.
Legitimate wvw veterans are those with a minimum of 1500 wvw ranks, any less than that and we risk the poll being polluted with votes from the new pve players who joined wvw recently just for the rewards system.
P.S that looks like a landslide vote to keep gliding in wvw.
It would have been nice if anet themselves would do this. Only because I don’t know everyone despite having been here since launch. Very difficult thing to do and I realized from the get go there would be people that didn’t follow the original post instructions.
Overall, I think it needs tweeking but is a welcome addition to the game mode. I am interested in seeing what else they do with the territories system.
So far the poll results are as I expected them to be. Obviously doesn’t represent all veteran players as a whole and can only be considered valuable feedback to a small degree, but is more or less what I expected. The ones demanding gliding be removed completely seem to be the minority so far. Thanks to all that answered the poll.
My personal opinion was that it could use some work but is a nice addition to the game mode. I also look forward to seeing what else they will do with the territories system. For me this opens up a new range of interesting possibilities to speculate on.
Over the past couple of days we have had alot of posts on these WvW forums making claims like “all veteran WvW’ers hate gliding” and “my whole friends list quit game over this”. In the interest of giving ourselves an actual idea of how the experienced WvW population feels about this, I have made a straw poll. I realize that not everyone will listen to me and there is no way to restrict who does or does not vote but I would like to ask those who haven’t been here since launch not to vote in this poll. I am making this straw poll with the intention of polling those players who have stuck with the game mode for the years we have had it available for the specific purpose of testing the claims mentioned at the beginning of the post.
At least they replied. Doesn’t really say much though. They’ve been releasing wvw content on their own “cadence” the entire time. It’s just been an extremely slooooow cadence. We’ll see what happens later this week but I’m not holding my breath. Either way, I know I’m going to buy the expansion no matter what happens just to stay up to par with the elite specs.
I don’t have any empty threats about leaving the game. I don’t have a long rant. I’m not even going to pretend that I am surprised. Honestly, I knew this would happen. I will be here until they bury this game, but I am thoroughly disappointed. How about you?
If you hate the game mode then you should roam. Or PvP. I would say some encouraging kitten like; “Oh, don’t worry Anet is fixing it” or maybe “Class balance will be fixed soon”, But I wouldn’t want to be unrealistic. I think most of us still here are just addicted to slaughtering each other and are willing to put up with anet’s kitten to get our fix.
I can see your point OP but destroying watchtower in the scenario outlined above doesn’t add up in the game economy, watchtower is a guild upgrade. Make another guild upgrade to destroy upgrades…perhaps/fair enough. But as someone who has to make these upgrades for my small guild, it just doesn’t seem fair. Those things cost gold to make.
How would you feel about it if destroying the spy balloon DID NOT wipe the schematic from the objective but instead merely required someone to spend supply to repair it like vier suggested above? Perhaps the schematic would remain slotted on the objective until the objective is flipped by an opposing side just like it currently is, but if the balloon is shot down it requires someone to repair it?
So, just because I’m curious, what point, exactly, were you actually trying to make?
If you were referring to the original post, the point of the thread was to propose a hypothetical change to the watchtower schematic making the spy balloon destroyable. Other than that I was hoping to discuss the possible pros and cons
They are currently destroyable, just take the tower. We really don’t need more siege BS in wvw.
Perhaps if Anet fixed the current serious issues I’d entertain this idea, but as it is, nope.
This would be a counter to the BS that is the watchtower.
We have different definitions of seige BS. I am always for defense of home BL, hence in favor of watchtower. I could go on and on about offensive siege BS, but I’ll just leave these two letters here: YB.
Anet will probably close this thread now just because you mentioned one server.
Random thought I had today, straight to the point:
Perhaps the spy balloon placed above objectives via the watchtower schematic should be made targetable by siege like balistas etc thus making the bubble destroyable. I feel like this could introduce interesting counterplay although I realize there would have to be some things taken into account like for example;
The max range you should be able to be away from the bubble and hit it with balistas should be identical to the range of the radar so that any invaders that get close enough to destroy it are still reveiled on the map for atleast the brief period of time it takes them to build. This way the change doesn’t render the schematic useless, but offers invaders another viable tactic to counter them.
Thoughts? Criticisms?
Highlighted suggestions:
Vier.1327
Yes, it is a great idea.
You coukd destroy it with balistas, and te defendera could repair it with supplies.
So attackers and deffenders have fun.
Caliburn.1845
Yes ballistas should be able to shoot down balloons. But make the balloon regenerate after say 10-15 minutes.
OriOri.8724
Personally I’d rather have the mechanic be where you can’t destroy the spy balloon at all, but by killing guards you can decrease the radius temporarily (until the guard respawns). 25, 50 or 100 unit decrease in radius per guard killed or something, up to a set minimum of course.
Put aside BG for a sec, what if its your server, would you think its fair? Maybe if some people would for once think objectively rather then instantly getting enraged because its about one particular server and automatically needing to spew their bias on here.
Always pulling the “What if it was your server?” card… Well, I cannot answer that question because I always played in the lower tiers (the ones you buy guilds from) and not with the stacked blob servers. I can’t simply know how I would feel if it was my server because it never been my server. But I problably would not come here crying that my server need more people if we were still holding our position in tier 1 since February 2013 (last time BG was ever ranked 4 or lower).
There are worst situations than losing a match in Tier 1 you know? Oh no, of course you don’t. You alwasy been in the top…
Sweet kitten ! The salt in this post…
everybody knows Jek is really a barrel of salt with arms so he can type.
You can wvw/gw2 in general with max graphics and frame rates above 60fp’s with an Intel i5 4690k as the cpu and an nvidia gtx960 as the gpu. Was my budget build for a while.
You should check out online retailers like newegg. They have a lot of good deal’s going on right now this close to the holidays.
I have been saying this for a long time. However, I think we should go a step further. Remove servers all together and pool the community, randomly assigning teams based off a number of things such as guild, time zone and the people on your friends list. This way teams are not made up with the same people from the same servers all the time, you can pull from the entire community to make actual balanced matchups and you aren’t splitting community’s up.
And that will only cater to the super guilds. I’m so over them that I’d rather be on the very last tier where I’d never have to play with them ever again. Everything they have touched has crashed and burned server landscapes when they all decided to up and move to another server.
It’s hard to escape people in an mmorpg. Have you considered maybe picking up a moba like league?
Condition builds. Yeah, you pick one up every so often but a part of you dies inside when you realize how ez mode it is and get bored. Thats how it is for me atleast. I always return to power builds. It’s just significantly easier to play condition builds. So much so that it’s boring.
We want Anet to reallocate some of that oversized art team to WvW or Hire programmers and minds within the community that play the game and care about it.
I have been saying this for a long time. However, I think we should go a step further. Remove servers all together and pool the community, randomly assigning teams based off a number of things such as guild, time zone and the people on your friends list. This way teams are not made up with the same people from the same servers all the time, you can pull from the entire community to make actual balanced matchups and you aren’t splitting community’s up.
Make light aura mitigate a percentage of the incoming condition damage and reflect that portion back (like retaliation does with power damage). This would also give us more of a reason to blast light fields. Just need to make the outgoing duration something reasonable like 3-4 seconds per blast or something.
I disagree with OP. We certainly don’t focus necros because they are weak. We focus them because good necros are deadly. Small group and up. This is why our small group almost always runs two as well.
1.) Buy new hamsters to replace the ones running the servers.
2.)Moar inv slots to carry these loot bags you guys leave all over the place.
3.)Fire Josh Davis
srs post….srsly
seriously:
1.) Upgrade your server rooms(for the love of god).
2.) Overhaul the WvW matchmaking system or get rid of servers and create teams from the populace in its entirety.
3.) Fire Josh Davis
That’s an average of 5 hours per day. GW2 addiction or what?
5hours a day bro? Do you even no-life?
No but seriously, I think there are (obviously, since 90% of wow forums is threads like these) a lot of people that feel the way you do. Unfortunately however, I think everyone that chooses to continue playing wvw will have to at some point realize that the systems we both use and have used in this game variant are not the best considering the nature of the game. Years down the road in gw3(and if they even consider continuing to pursue a Realm vs Realm game variant) I only hope that they decide not to divide the populace initially with servers. It would be much better to pool teams from the entirety of the populace and setting teams accordingly as opposed to dividing the populace then limiting matchups that much more due to this. If they could but take what they have learned from AB in gw1 and WvW in gw2 and try to polish a game mode…that would be great.
Will never happen without enabling everyone’s finisher’s to activate upon the targets hp hits 0, otherwise there will be no way to use finishers, effectively making them redundant which means anyone that bought finishers with gems/gold would have wasted their investment. Not to mention the numerous trait line reworks that would be necessary.
Tldr: that would require a lot of work for very little actual benefit, so don’t hold your breath.
Searched on youtube, yep still at least 1-2 years away like we guessed the same 1-2 years ago, not sure why people keep bringing it up like its right around the corner.
The same reason why I’m not sure people keep pointing out that it’s still in development like it’s never going to come out. See? I can do that too, now wheres my cookie you kitten?
Your cookie failed its kickstarter goal and the money has been spent on a chocolate bar thats already been half eaten. No refunds.
Sorry.
Please fund my new project Cookie 2.0 instead, thats sure to succeed! If you pledge twice as much as for the last cookie I will throw in a half eaten chocolate bar as a preorder bonus (may or may not be available at time of release)!
You are destroying his hopes and dreams. Let him dream about kickstarted games being able to overcome problems that a AAA studio with x10 the budget has trouble overcoming.
I am sure Camelot Unchained will be the greatest game of all time, just as soon as they get around to finishing the Alpha (in 2018).
It would seem you are trying to suggest that the entirety of the budget went into WvW…Which is not true at all lol anyone can see that.
Look, I would rather a company, whether it be AAA or not, take the time to make something polished instead of half finished. Right now we are essentially playing a game mode that is kitten. Doesn’t mean we don’t play it, nor does it mean that the game isn’t the best RvR around (atm)…nobody anywhere in this thread has said that. What I was TRYING to point out, is that there is so much demand for a well made RvR that millions of dollars are thrown at the idea by the community themselves. Perhaps the way I stated that was somewhat overzealous and I can see that the bulk of my meaning is lost on you people…can’t say I’m surprised, but come on. You can’t sit here with the cliff notes in your face and tell me the book doesn’t exist. I could have used other projects as my example, I only chose that one because it has been frequently mentioned on these forums compared to others regardless of the current state its in. To sit here and act like other entities aren’t trying to move in on this market and that there projects will never become finished projects or that 1-2 years won’t flash by in an instant is just abhorrently ignorant.
I’m going to go out on a limb and just upgrade to a 1080…maybe this will fix the problem…even if it doesnt a better gpu is a better gpu so I guess its a win win
I am always for defense of home BL, hence in favor of watchtower. I could go on and on about offensive siege BS, but I’ll just leave these two letters here: YB.
