Guild Wars 2

Honestly for zergs it seems like only scourge/spellbreaker/ possibly firebrand will be used over their other specs, you’ll still see stuff like healing tempests and herald. The main thing is scourge/spellbreaker bring a new level of boonhate to the game, which might mean a return to pirateship meta.

Scourge is pretty strong and definitely a part of any group comp, I’m just not entirely sure that it’s all that much better then current deathly chill reaper since if you want to go full damage on scourge you have to take dhummfire and sand savant or demonic lore, and if you do that you have 0 stability whereas deathly chill reaper even with dhummfire manages to have stab natively in its kit making it much safer for zergs.

My definition for OP in wvw is a build that is extremely strong for all fights, so things like condi chrono / warriors/ thieves are strong duelists, but are garbage in larger fights so I can’t call them “OP” when they’re only good for one thing.
Deathly chill necro on the other hand is really strong no matter what you’re doing in WvW, being good in roaming while dominating the large scale fight meta, so it gets my vote for most OP class atm.

RodOfDeath.5247:

boolah.1325:

Kilo.2539:

If you want blob fights and a “non-toxic” community, better to xfer EU.

NA players have just about ruined wvw on our side sadly. No pride, no kittens given.

So true..

EU has a much better WvW community compared to NA. Better fights too..

Unfortunately I think west coast players in the USA have no chance to play on EU due to the ping and such. I have heard the east coast players have a better time on EU servers. Something about new york city and super computers, stuff above my head.

I am curious why EU is much better than NA. My guess is the language barriers and the togetherness of an all x country server maybe?

EU in general embraced “GvG” culture more then NA did which is why you sometimes hear that EU plays the GvG game while NA plays “real wvw” , I still think people are really exaggerating a lot though and making EU out to be perfect for fights when most of the servers have the same problems that their NA counterparts do.

I’m surprised this build isn’t that popular in NA, it’s one of the strongest force multiplier builds that fits into any organised comp, I personally prefer the mantra of pain healing variant for most things (go ministels with transference sigils and riceballs and swap stab mantra with mantra of pain.)

Lol distortion share can get pretty silly, god bless that CD group.

Deathly chill reaper is pretty strong atm, but things like D/P daredevil with pulm or longbow druid shred them at least in a 1 vs 1.
One thing to note though, is the builds that beat reaper 1 vs 1 aren’t the ones to bring if you fight them in organised roaming groups with heal support eg dual reaper, dual heal ele and a guard , at that point you have to get dual mallyx revs as your core to fight that.

My rifle changes.
Netshot:
- Upon landing a successful netshot, can reactivate the ability to temporarily daze the target and apply vuln.
Overcharged shot:
- Is now unblockable
Jump shot:
- 1/2 second evade during leap
-Now knocksdown enemies upon successful hit.

Makes post about forum behaviour, topic devolves into massive toxicity anyway, god bless the forums.

Eh it’s fine, the players in EoTM are mostly PVE players getting some karma/exp, doesn’t really affect wvw at all.

I know linking has created it’s own issues, but lets not pretend that the servers were fine before the links either, most of the lower tier servers were dying or heading towards dying and everyone was transferring up tiers, I feel like it was either links or having the majority of servers below T1-T2 be ghost towns.

Has there been any MMO with actually popular esports? By nature MMO’s tend to be confusing/ hard to follow for spectators unlike games like League or CSGO that are easy to watch.

I like the post Haematic, can we have it in french?

hayabusafmw.9370:

Just waiting on crowfall tbh

cough It’s a scam cough

As far as glicko goes HoD is probally somewhere close to mag (HoD did get 2nd place over mags last place in T2 just last week.) It also crosses my mind that any server in T2 atm would mostly similarly roll over HoD and especially YB (YB is closer to t4 in strength but T4 already has 3 servers firmly there) , perhaps the real issue is that theres no 3rd T3 server?

Nomad/ Minstrels is fine for frontline Guardian/ Ele/ Heal rev due to their support capabilities.

Honestly ele wouldn’t even be the best with cele ammy atm, I can see cele reaper, DH and zeker being way more oppressive then cele tempest.

Even as someone who essentially embodies the PPK life by just running around by myself trying to find fights, I agree that PPK actually makes groups less willing to fight, especially if you’re up against higher numbers or a known guild group as simply giving up the objective and capping it back after the enemy leaves in most cases is less detrimental to your score then losing a fight, even if you end up keeping the objective.
However, I also think that it’s refreshing being rewarded for non PPT work making it “worth” it for me to forgo capping empty towers and camps in favour of straight hunting enemy players and rewarding a more aggressive style of play.
With that in mind I thought of 2 simple suggestions for PPK to keep it in the game, but reward skillful aggressive play instead of just making outnumbered situations worse then they already are.
1. Remove PPK earned against any player with a outnumbered buff – this is pretty self explanatory. EDIT: Apparently this was already added.
2. Triple PPK earned for any player with an outnumbered buff – this encourages outnumbered groups to fight even larger groups and have it be worth it.
With these two changes, PPK would serve to reward excellent fighting skills and aggression rather then reward simply having higher numbers.

I find downed state fine, just another thing to play around and adds more diversity in comps, eg scrapper is god awful otherwise, but brings res control so it ends up being useful.

bluri.2653:

I have not lol, idk whats with these threads zzz

Stop talking from beyond the grave!

The first duel shows why GS necro is actually god awful apart from larger fights, I would have just scepter autod for the win instead of messing around and missing skills.

I think red keep shouldnt be able to be trebbed from SMC and vice versa, I’m fine with SMC trebbing and being trebbed from the outer towers though.

Since people have been talking about mostly 1 vs 1 balance and super small man, I’ll throw in deathly chill reaper for large scale fights, I’ve played nothing but condi reaper since the change and am still amazed at how ridiculous it is, 40 bleed stacks + a bunch of cover condis near instantly and I run dual boon corrupts with nullification sigils so I can burn down even a warrior/ revenant by corrupting/removing their resistance.

If you get pulled against uneven terrain it can happen, watch out for small slopes!

If it makes you feel better, when the Anet dev showed up on Mag bl, things were a little less great for him, we revenged for you!

I think every class should have some option for +25% movespeed, approved.

Caliburn.1845:

YB had a queue of three on YB bl for a few minutes last night. No queue on EBG or any other map. On DB bl YB had the outnumbered buff flickering on and off for the first few hours of reset.

Clearly even numbers.

I mean, YB did do well in skirmishes outside the start! You even knocked mag to last place and won one, then DB won during SEA

Rambitshouse.8712:

I 1v2 scrappers on power death shroud necro the other day.

I am the greatest necro, not you.

Sure they were pvers, but I am the best. Here’s my build.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0NPp5QojR-E/hqdefault.jpg

I was gonna say power boonstrip necro counters scrapper, but you don’t actually have boon corrupts in your build, probally using the standard meta power reaper would decimate scrappers faster though

Hexalot.8194:

Taxidriver.2043:

Jerry CCH.9816:

Thx Anet WvW TEAM <3

NA top one tier awsome now

no kidding BG dont need to run away and get farmed by MAG anymore.

You know, this is some funny kitten.

You left Tier 1 because you “claimed” you wanted fights. So ANET pushed you all the way down to Tier 3 where you’re currently blowing out DB and YB (and it’s only Saturday) to the point where they’ll soon be instituting a boycott of their own, leaving you no one to fight.

You can’t make this stuff up. :-D

Mag is currently 4 points ahead and came in last place a couple of times, its hardly a blowout…….

You guys do know that Mag is actually losing skirmishes in T3 right? We even have a few last places already, it’s hardly a one sided matchup in score lol

I believe you can see it on the wiki https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/World , apparently the API is messing up atm though

Hey, DB is winning the PPT wars atm, they have 0.3 KDR but I believe in their PPT strength

Liston.9708:

Sorry Maguuma, no one down here has your numbers.

To be fair, Mag did have a 13.3 KDR on EBG after the first skirmish and EBG had a queue for every server so the numbers were equal, I’m pretty sure YB/ DB are also outgunned.

You should be able to dodge the dragons maw as soon as you see the animation, then you wouldn’t be hit with anything, you should run acrobatics if you’re having issues dodging.

I see no reason why there shouldn’t be more alternate gear paths, normal crafting should be always the optimal way, but alternate gearing paths should exist to reward playing, eg fractal research pages, raid shards, spvp (spvp is overtuned and needs toning down).
For wvw, example currencies could be badges of honour+ hero notaries + token gold amount, it would be strictly slower then normal crafting, but still manage to reward dedicated play.

Baronvonhippo.3157:

Such an amazing fighting server they are currently hiding from all fights. It’s okay we all knew Mag couldn’t hang in T1 this was inevitable, have fun being farmed for months till you fall back down where you belong again.

To be fair T1 has been the bottom of server activity for 5 months now….. Maguumas community really got sick of being stuck in a tier with a third of the total kills of even T4, no sane player would want to play in a tier with rock bottom activity when T2-T3 are high activity.

shiri.4257:

dunno why you’re looking for gvg style guilds. Most of them get rolled by pug blobs now a days and scream for ajams to support them. they eventually just reform in 2-3months and reform anyways, different tag, with new swag.

It’s hard for a guild against a map queue these days- the days of Red guard like guilds rolling over uplevel and uncomped zergs are long gone, you need a certain amount of numbers to compete against any remotely organised blob.

I ranked them in order of what your zerg needs the most:
Guardian- Support DPS ( obvious choice for #1, you need at least 2 per party for stab)
Revenant – Support DPS ( mallyx/jalis rev is a staple for any zerg due to resistance spam and damage reduction while outputting strong ranged damage with hammer)
Necro – Pure DPS ( Both power and condi necro shine in this meta, condi necro especially tears apart unorganised groups, whereas power boonstrip necro does a fantastic job of killing even the tankiest of targets)
Elementalist- Support ( I find DPS ele to be outclassed by DPS necro due to slow application of damage, no boon corrupts and unblockable attacks, however support heal ele maintains itself as one of the strongest builds.
Mesmer – Support ( Copying the EU meta mesmer which is a more support role rather the DPS role that NA has, support mesmer helps uptime of all your key boons, as well as heals decently and some also have started to use distortion to get through heavy bombs)
Warrior- Support DPS ( Run warbanner to res, wail on things with your strong burst damage and self survivalibility, just don’t be epidemic bait!,
Druid – Support ( You need one of these in your commander party to stealth your commander if he’s getting focused hard, but it’s a niche role, aside from that it heals well, stealth’s well, doesn’t die.)
Scrapper- Support DPS ( Run the super speed spam build to help your frontline push)
Thief – Pure DPS ( Justspam staff 5 and pretend you can’t read all the requests to switch class)

Odokuro.5049:

Why is everyone SO against playing the PPT game, I get wanting to, find fights ect. But I mean, how else do you gain noticeable points each week?

Look, I cap camps, towers daily while I do stuff, I’m not saying never cap things ever, but lets look at T1, where mass boredom has set in due to the PPT culture, for context, when I go roam in T1, it’s completely barren ASIDE from people turtling in a T3 keep/tower even if they have the numbers to engage in a fight, and I am not going to spend 3 hours breaking a defended T3 tower. The large scale fighting was even worse in T1, when you would form up numbers to fight, but a similar size zerg would be turtling again in a T3 keep or tower with siege…. It just makes it BORING AS kitten to play when no-one is interested in killing each other but instead playing siege wars 2 in a keep.
TLDR: The ideal way to PPT is to never fight anything, which makes it ungodly boring for anyone who is interested in fighting other players.

You know, I used to think T3 and T4 were empty, then I started actually playing in every tier and realised that there are more fights in T2 and below. T1 is a barren wasteland of PPT tryhards that never fight, if you want a good experience in the game, I recommend T2 or T3 for a fighting guild, and T4 for people who want to roam mostly.

I wouldn’t mind some passive lifeforce regen out of combat especially in spvp.

Honestly, whether the build is actually good or not is irrelevant to the discussion which is the only argument that I’ve seen in this thread against getting rid of it, is there anyone here that can actually defend ghost thief as a build that should exist in this game gameplay wise?

MadBomber.3719:

just have to make sure you corrupt whoever youre going to epi, you can still get rekt by it

I mean you should be corrupting them before you epi anyway, you get more condis for corrupting in the first place.

I actually like these changes, but I still dislike leaving on-hit sigils in the game, they’re just so…… boring….. , having all strong/dynamic effects trigger on swap sounds much more fun and interesting to me.

shiri.4257:

RIP T0 dreams, RIP xushin, RIP Hunk

Pfft, xushin never dies, hes off making 7 legendaries a day to sell on the TP, while farming silverwastes for 16 hours a day, hes a true god of the game.

People are actually playing reaper as condi epi mainly, at least in tier 1 and 2 for NA, not sure about other tiers or EU though, its rarer to see power reaper then condi epi shout reaper from my experience ( though IMO both variants are the best zerg dps, people just notice epidemic more then power wells)

Tiny Doom.4380:

Did an entire thread vanish while I was reading it? I was enjoying it too. Such nostalgia. Reminded me of the classic “No-one come to Maguuma, we don’t want any more people – seriously, we mean it” thread of the old pre-Season days.

Oh well, this one’s not bad either.

Anet is trying to silence the plight of Maguumas Christians and our wholesome family friendly values! I will pray for their sins in the hope that they may in time understand their wrongs and be forgiven in the eyes of the Lord.

Maguuma’s holy christian warriors, saddened at the loss of our head pastors and lack of heathen savages to fight in the name of our Lord have elected to spend the following weeks in deep contemplation instead in order to prove our spiritual purity whilst purging all the heathens in our midst.

Justine.6351:

Grim Reaper.3048:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Arcaedus.7290:

Liston.9708:

kefro.9312:

Probably because siege counts as population

this is 2017 not 2015…..

Yeah, but disloyal, bandwagoning “fight” guilds ignorantly perpetuating an old and now highly inaccurate stereotype, whatcha gonna do?

Lol are you trying to say YB doesn’t still hug siege? Because that’s not what I’ve been seeing this week.

Every server has those players that like siege. I see it in the same match up as you. I will say this about YB, on the first day that I came to YB, ( 2 Years ago ) up to now, YB has changed for most of us. We don’t use the amounts of siege that most of you think we do.

Ohhhkayyyy

https://youtu.be/jarKFnCQqhU

That’s not the real yaks bend, the real yaks bend would have at least 5 omegas and 10 acs to every camp, anything else is a insult to YB.

Noble.2670:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvNsIkj4vag

there you go..as requested. i guess after annoying us for 30minutes he got a bit brave and finally messed up.

Ghost thief player that alt f4’s when he gets downed….. now that is the definition of cancer.