Guild Wars 2

I was actually able to get online for the ‘epic’ event on Sunday. However, after about 45minutes I logged back off. It was un-playable. I would stand there, everything would freeze and then suddenly catch back up to see I had actually died and been revived in the time it had stopped. It was not fun.

I also wish that you stopped the focus of the Gem Shop being on RNG items. I want to give you money, because although there are teething issues with events, I think the majority of the game is great. But I want to give you money for something in return. Sell me weapon skills, sell me town clothes, sell me minis! Stop selling me something that I am unlikely to get any reward from.

teviko.6049:

Its…two-faced.

This just seems rather stuck in the past and agressive.

The game has changed. It is okay to talk to people outside your guild, it is okay to play with people outside your guild, it is even okay to represent guilds other than your main guild.

It is not two-faced. It doesn’t make you a bad person. It doesn’t lessen your feelings about your main guild or remove the fact that that you feel that is your home.

Giving these comments and this attitude suggests that the guild system will never suit you. That is okay, not everything will suit everyone. It doesn’t make it a bad system though it just means it is not one that suits your personal play style.

teviko.6049:

I’m all about praising and rewarding my members, but I am NOT about to give them what they want, when they want it, at the expense of my other members or else they will leave….I won’t do it.

I have to massively agree with this. In fact this is the exact sort of thing I was talking about when I said “The idea of a guild for me is one that suits your needs and you suit theirs.” If the member does not suit you as a guild then that is just as much of an issue as you not suiting them. It is about getting a group of people together that share a common goal and a common purpose.

There are two types of guilds I feel are going to do well in this game. The large zerg guilds which have been mention a lot. But also the often over looked smaller guilds that have clear goals and shared aims. I think this is where adaptation comes in. In other games the multi-disciplinary guild was king, people enjoyed be able to everything in one place. Here I think as people can join more than one many members are going to want to join a selection of more specialist guilds. The small guilds that I have seen who are strong and thriving have all catered to a niche.

teviko.6049:

you find that this system makes it so that if I as the top dog in my guild, the leader, the enforcer of my guild’s ways…doesn’t bend knee and kiss the ground around my members feet to make them stay, they just get up and leave.

This is the other part of adapting I think some guild leaders are missing. It is letting people leave, letting people not represent, not sweating about it as that is a part of this game. It is a different mind set but perhaps it would make you feel less jaded if you did not worry about chasing everyone on your guild list and just spent time playing instead.

teviko.6049:

You are not a guild leader and I almost wish you’d bow out of the conversation…leartn to adapt.

Aside I am sorry if my lack of guild leadership offends you , but after all guilds are not just for the leaders. I honestly believe in a balance discussion members opinion are just as important, especially when talking about changing the entire foundation of the system.

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It might seem like the multi-guild system isn’t working…simply because it isn’t fleshed out and supported properly. That’s my feeling, anyway.

This is a very good point, I didn’t make the connection when I ready your first post but it could indeed be a factor.

Fozzik.1742:

I probably wouldn’t mind the lack of tools if I already had a very well established, close-knit guild. I don’t have either of those things yet…so the system isn’t working as well for me.

Coming into a thread like this and saying, “There’s nothing wrong with the system…MY guild is just fine, you just aren’t doing it right” really just sounds condescending, insulting, and largely unhelpful.

I think there are two different issues here.

Firstly what do you mean by lack of tools? If you mean that the guilds have limited functionality to what we could have I would agree. There is an awful lot is lacking from the guild system in way of functionality.

However, is this the focus of the thread? Not really. This is more an over view of the entire concept of multi-guilds. I think you can say there is nothing wrong with the system and still believe smaller elements of it can be improved. I think saying others are being un-helpful just because they are coming from a different view point is misleading. Just because others find the system does work does not mean it is unhelpful to say so.

I personally do not think the issue is with the system, it is with people not liking change.

Things are different here. People expect their tried and test methods for leadership in other games to work here, they do not work with the new system. It is clear from many of the posts here that people are clinging to what they know, rather than working with the new system they are trying to make it so their guild is not a part of it. Guilds that demand full-time representation are living in a different MMO.

I think there are a couple of things to do to improve your engagement with the system. Firstly accept that there is a difference here. If you embrace the system, you relax about chasing people who are not representing you will find you have a lot more time to really work on what actually matters in the guild. Pay attention to those who are representing, make your guild a place they want to be. You will find then if others do poke their heads back into the guild they are more likely to stay.

On a personal experience note I have not joined a guild with representation requirements. I have joined guilds where people share similar interests, places where I can become part of a community. The idea of a guild for me is one that suits your needs and you suit theirs. If you are recruiting players who do not share the same point of view you will part ways pretty quickly. But also there is that first few days/weeks of fitting in. I have found myself in guilds that did not suit and that is okay there will always be an element of finding your feet.

TL;DR – Accept the system for what it is and work with it, not against it.

I would buy an army of them!

ArtanisKain.8579:

55 people have already died from this. I know in the grand scheme of things that doesn’t seem like much, but if you were one of those 55 families you would understand.

69 people died before it even hit America. I am not saying it is not an awful event. It is just that perhaps other areas of the world could use that money more, because they do not just have a deficit they have money at all.

I do not think that in game events are really the best way to work towards a money raising goal. They make people think they have helped when in fact they have done nothing. People need to actually give money themselves to causes they believe in rather than hoping for companies to do it for them.

I also believe Arenanet have shown responsibility for charity events. Even in small events I have heard of some of their employees taking part in a charity cycle ride. I am sure if they feel this is something they want to support they will do so with no need for in-game involvement, as after all does that not set a precident? Every horrific disaster being represented in game, a place people go to escape the world. Or should it just the ones that effect the USA?

Even if my first comment was harsh I still no not think this sort of thing is actually beneficial.

While I was very conscious in my first game that I was letting down the team games like this do have a learning curve.

Even after reading the rules certain things had me completely bamboozled. I found a pumpkin after much searching brought back and… well I still have no idea what do when I bring it back! The guide just said to return to get skeletons but after running inside outside, round the mausoleum and trying to talk to a skeleton I still haven’t a clue!

We can’t all be instantly good at a game so I do apologise for ‘ruining’ it for you, but I am trying my best.

I am really confused as to why people feel that grouping is not a viable option for an activity in an MMO. A lot of things will be easier the higher level you are but that does not mean your low level is excluded.

I am bad at jumping puzzles. I know this but I WILL complete this by shear stubbornness alone!

The only thing I do find frustrating is the wait. I die very early on and I then get to stand there in a time out. It feels like a punishment which I have to say is grating a bit.

Oh so it is actually part wax! That is interesting. Thanks all for the explanations.

Okay I will just stick with that time it seems to be mentioned more often. I was just wondering if something changed.

What did I miss:

we have published the time of the special event which will occur on Sunday, October the 28th at 12:00 PM Pacific Time

Posted by AnthonyOrdon here

and

The time is 3pm Pacific, this coming Sunday. Hope this clears up any confusion!

Posted by CC Dalmarus here

No this has not cleared up the confusion it is as simply combined and compunded it! When is this event?

Thrashbarg.9820:

Erin.7521:

Masterpyro.4310:

Its.. candy…

‘Candy’ could mean anything! What actually is it? Is it just boiled sugar? Are they soft or hard? What does it taste of? Why on earth can you buy 5lb bags?

You don’t really want to know.

Don’t worry I am not planning on eating it, never seen it for sale over here.

The event is not tomorrow it is mid-day Sunday.

Masterpyro.4310:

Its.. candy…

‘Candy’ could mean anything! What actually is it? Is it just boiled sugar? Are they soft or hard? What does it taste of? Why on earth can you buy 5lb bags?

Still not a clue what candy corn actually is.

Where is this watch it on youtube comment or is this just the special event thread being mis-quoted?

They need to do a range of collectable quaggan plushies, reelase new ones every so often and who wouldn’t want to collect the whole set?

I think might actually NEED a pirate quaggan in my life for it to be complete. Just take my money ArenaNet take it!

To be fair there term ‘rare’ you are so fond of was never used in any comunication.

Max Lexandre.6279:

I agree, ANet puts the things into the game without any explanation how to start all this events.

This is just not true. There are several NPCs (one just outside ever capital city) that tell you to head to Lions Arch. If you head to Lions Arch there is a massive circle on your map telling you where to go and when you get there the NPC has a large pumpkin floating above their head.

I have to admit I missed the NPCs to begin with as I was in the wilderness but heading to the major hub of Lions Arch solved all my issues with the event and I no more questions to ask.

I have to admit all my candy goes to the quaggans. If ArenaNet had any sense they would start marketing a range of quaggan plushies with different outfits and themes I would collect them all!

I have always recieved trick or treat bags of them 8 bags for 50 candy.

Join us on October 28 (midday, Pacific Time), when we’ll celebrate the holiday pinnacle with a bang!

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The patch notes give a time for the event suggesting it will not be 24 hours. It sounds like it is a one off event. Which is an interesting choice.

I believe this is 7pm GMT and that the UK will be back on GMT then so would be 7pm. Please do correct me if that is incorrect.

7. Have you bought any of the direct purchase, set priced halloween items. If so, will you be buying more?

I did by the mini pets but costumes are not my thing so I will not be buying those. If there were skins etc I would likely purchase them if I liked them.

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1. Will you or will you not be buying black lion trading company or random number generation materials again?

Yes. But not during this event.

2. Did you buy them in the past?

Yes.

3. If you would not buy trading post material/gamble, would you support direct to buy weapon skins and what general price do you find acceptable from a business standpoint both as a customer and realizing that they must make money as a business?

Even though I would play the RNG I would still say yes. I would buy them if they were direct purchases.

4. Do you believe that future events will also be handled with random number generation to make profit based on limited time item acquisition?

Yes. Basic buisness.

5. If you believe that the future events will be handled in the same manner, does this realization negatively effect your trust of Arena Net in regard to handling micro transactions for permanent content?

No. They have never been dishonest.

6. Did you obtain a skin or whatever it is you were looking to get from the black lion trading chests? From the Mad King Chests?

No I didn’t obtain the item I wanted from the chest. I also didn’t obtain the item I wanted from the Mad King Chest.

You do not get it in the mail. You use your candy scanner to get it by following the instructions given in the mail.

But surely CoF gear is still light, medium, heavy? So no matter how flashy there is a distinction.

Also as PvP happens in WvW as well as SPvP it is still an arguement I hear often against this sort of idea.

I assume this falls into the category of “Wouldn’t that make it difficult for PVPers to identify their enemy?”

As I am not a PVPer myself I have no idea if armour is something people use. I just run and attack anyone hoping for the best so their armour is a little irrelevant for my personal (lack of) play style so have never been sure how much truth there is to this reason.

I am with you though and think it would be fun to wear them the whole time.

I had to ask one question. “Where is the event happening?” The response given “Lion’s Arch”. Everything else was more than apparent, and I even later found hints to go to Lions Arch out in the world (just not in the middle of the wilderness where I logged on).

When arriving in Lions Arch there is an event circle surrounding the person to talk to and they are marked with the pumpkin so they were easy to spot. All other issues I noted people finding was simply because they had not actually read the information they were given. It was incredibly clear how to use the machine and what you were using it for but as people skipped through all the instructions (which were very simple) I am not quite sure what else ArenaNet can do.

I suppose the only criticism I can make is it was different to their normal design as it was written text rather than voiced or visual. Perhaps that would have solved some confusion, but would people have listened to a cut screen or would they have just skipped that as well?

I think the launch time being ‘unfair’ arguments are ridiculous. The world is a big place not all times are going to suit all people someone is going to have the patch in the middle of the night. Let’s all be thankful we do not live in Asia or Oceania so have nothing going on at practical times!

However, the issue of clear communication is something that should be addressed. Arenanet know they have a global game, they have also known for some time now when Halloween is so their deadline was pretty clear! If you want happy customers you do not give what appears to be solid information and then alter it.

Samrogan your idea that they should not release a time but can release a date so that the patch can be ready suggests it only takes a few hours to finishes tweaks and make sure they are tested and ready to go live, personally I hope they are not working to such close margins!

See this is why official rule sets don’t work. People have very different view on what constitutes a roleplay basic! For me I only agree with one of the three rules you suggested all the others seem limiting and would restricted roleplay rather than encourage it.

Personally I have found the unofficial servers to work very well.

Want! This would be do much fun. Could encourage people to travel more. I already played a few riddle puzzles in the game and really enjoyed them but combining it with exploration would be brilliant.

DreamOfACure I think it would be a useful addition as some people respond better to audio clues then visuals. Yes it is hectic but I keep an eye out for my visual clues, my prefered method as stated previously, while others would prefer to keep an ear open for the audio hint.

There will always be times when knowing someone is down doesn’t mean you are actually going to be able to help them at all, but I would still think it is better to know however you prefer to find out.

Then from LA you can get to any other capital city for free in what? Ten seconds or so? I do not think that is really an issue at all.

Okay massive sad face I have been looking at getting that armour set and thought it looked amazing but that little customisation? Really? Oh dear!

I have been involved in a lot of roleplay and there are several ‘hang out’ spots as well as people spread out over the rest of the world in some of the less frequently travelled spots.

Obviously there isn’t much dueling or inspecting, but there is real role play and a lot of socialising out there.

I think the more interesting thing this thread has bought up is there is an audio hint for the dodge bar! How have I never noticed that?

As you can tell I do not note audio clues and prefer visual, of which I feel there are currently plenty. However, I am not one to think that only things that suit my personal preferances should be included in the game like some of the above so why not include it.

It is only an error you make once though and then I have found it very easy to never repeated. It is also easy to edit that first post to remove the error so no one even has to know!

I have to admit I use bold more than I do actions so it is nice they made formatting so quick and simple.

Yeahy voice spam and profanity while trying to play. Great idea horrid in practice.

I am not sure why they have to be stored server side? You pay, your points are reset, then you use one of your saved builds to reassign them. Just like you clicking them but it knows which you want to click. Perhaps I am misunderstanding how the programming works or should I say guessing wrong as I have no real idea how it works! While of course it will take some work but I can’t imagine it being horrifically contradictory to the current system.

Well there is the but I want to play together so we need two copies arguement. It doesn’t have to be you stopping her playing!

I am not sure why the fee would be an issue. There is nothing here about removing the fee nor removing having to return to a trainer. Just then when you do get there you can just then load a previous build rather than have to assign all the points again by hand.

I do think there are arguements for mounts, I just do not think that encouraging people into lower levels is one of them. I am not against mounts nor am I pro them I am very much a fence sitter! I just think the arguements for and against need to be clear and real.

No idea why this isn’t in the game. A great idea.

Have you tried using the variety of bags available in the game? Such as oiled bags that junk items go into automatically? There are a good number for different item types that keeps your inventory sorted even when looting large amounts from events.

Edit: Corrected bag name, should have been oiled bag!

The User agreement says only one person will have access to an account. As a result this situation does not really have an honest uses only to get around the user agreement. Apart from as a family and surely the limitations of that are apparent before starting.

I just do not believe after the first hour of having a mount you are actually going to go to low level zones just to ‘go for a ride’ as it were. Even if you do I think ver very few people will join you in that pursuit. There needs to be something more rewarding to take people back to lower level zones.

I do not think the waypoints are remotely responsible for this nor would mounts help. Waypoints are instant they do not keep you out of the zone for more than a few seconds so their effect is minimal on activity levels. There does need to be more done to encourage people that low level zones are an option for their max level characters. However, mounts just aren’t going to do that no one will return to a zone just because they can now run through it on a mount.

Perhaps as a bit of a rubbish pvper I am just used to dieing more so it doesn’t seem as often!