Guild Wars 2

I think we need dev confirmation on this.

apharma.3741:

Guys he’s keeping it a secret so it gives him the edge to win the world championship!

O kitten u got me.

Blades Of Fatalis.1279:

Frostball.9108:

Levetty.1279:

Since you don’t explain why I am forced to presume you are wrong and everybody else is right.

Mirage enables things you normally couldnt do, like stack 20 confusion on enemies with cover conditions without trouble whilst still having good options for survivability.

uhhh what? 20 stacks of confusion is doable on base mesmer easily, chrono i can get 30-50 stacks without too much effort.
video proof of 49 stacks of confusion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmfp92Y_UtU
now, im not saying mirage isnt good. ive personally had good success with it. it fits my playstyle rather well, and while a lot of the traits need work i find them to fit my setup nicely. is it perfect? no. does it compare condi wise with chrono? also no.

I dont play wvw

nothelseth.4621:

To make it clear, frostballs current idea of mirage is the following

Krait runes for jaunt
ineptitude+blind on shatter
signet of midnight
axe

Jaunt on target, spam every single shatter, get the elite proc and get a massive condi spike. Playing this as a silly thief +1er

Cool in theory. In practice 1 well of eternity, 1 astral form, 1 leadership rune proc and all of your cds and burst is gone. Less effective than a thief by x100. Garbage in a teamfight. Inferior 1v1 to chrono, can’t hold a fight for its life, garbage 2v2, etc

Frostball has literally for years been the kid who always tries to refuse what everyone else does and do ‘’his own thing’’ and insist that it’s better. This is the person who plays the inspiration build with carrion and played bunker mesmer with the damage well.

Fantastic pvper, one of the best mesmers in the game by far but also someone who has historically ALWAYS been a contrarian who wants to be cool and stand out by never agreeing with what’s actually true.

Also, your build is bad lmao

I see you got sindys advice, although his guess on my build was wrong in some parts so such is yours. If you cant burst again within short periods of time with my build youre doing something mechanically wrong. All of your cds most definitely arent gone with one burst and the burst isnt gone with a simple thing like a leadership proc. You need heavy condi cleanse.

Dondagora.9645:

Frostball.9108:

Fay.2357:

Frostball.9108:

Also id like to mention that my current build is only the strongest build i have yet to see myself. Im not saying it is the strongest build possible or it is what everyone will play in the future. While my build might be strong, we have only had a few days to look at these things and its most likely that its possible to even make a much better mirage build.

My main point is that in the games current state it will be a better option than chronomancer.

It’s not like gw2 is a complex game with complex mechanical interactions. There’s not that many ways to build a character, especially with the obvious restrictions of being a condie build that bursts without relying on clones. You can burst with shatters, you can burst with weapon skills, you can burst with ambush skills. That’s literally it. All of those methods have downsides, and chrono is far better at shatter bursting.

I think you’re just afraid to post the build because then people would see how not impressive the burst actually is. There’s no shame in being wrong you know, it’s ok.

Thats why im surprised people have so much trouble finding mirage any good. Whats the difference between streaming the build and posting the build?

Simple. By withholding the build here and now, for whatever stupid reason you can muster, you’re preventing us from talking intelligently with you about why you think the way you do. You’re essentially the same as a person who goes “this thing is 100% true. I have evidence, but, y’know, I won’t show it to you. Just take my word, it’s very compelling.” So don’t blame us for not trusting you, but we don’t trust you. Give us the build or stop talking about it. Those are your rational options.

Its alright not to trust me but its stupid not to try to see the potential in something and give it more than one go before you say its bad. Ill be streaming the build after pof release.

Jace al Thor.6745:

Frostball.9108:

Also id like to mention that my current build is only the strongest build i have yet to see myself. Im not saying it is the strongest build possible or it is what everyone will play in the future. While my build might be strong, we have only had a few days to look at these things and its most likely that its possible to even make a much better mirage build.

My main point is that in the games current state it will be a better option than chronomancer.

See this is the cool thing. Your opinion is that you have the best build ever and the spec is so great and that you know it’s the truth because you were a pro pvp’er. The thing with opinions is, just like kittens, everyone has ‘em. Your contemporary has already disagreed with you. He says that Chrono will be the better choice. Now Helseth has quite the abrasive personality at times but I have to agree with him on this. Then when Fay, probably one of the most knowledgeable people I know on anything Mesmer, agrees and my conclusions are similar as is the vast majority of the people I’ve talk with about the spec I’m going to lean toward the spec has very glaring problems and isn’t the wonder you make it out to be.
Not only that but most of the people here have pointed out the problems being seen with the spec and your response boils down to essentially " I was a pro pvp’er and I’m right not you" really kills anything you try and tell me.

Youve probably not even read half of my responses then. How many times has helseth come up with a new build that was actually used? From the time ive been in the scene of this game that number boils down to 0, he always follows others. I dont know fay well so i cannot say anything about him.

I just said that its the best build i have yet to see, not the best build possible. It seems like you just want to tell me im wrong because other people think i am rather than reading anything i say.

Fay.2357:

Frostball.9108:

Also id like to mention that my current build is only the strongest build i have yet to see myself. Im not saying it is the strongest build possible or it is what everyone will play in the future. While my build might be strong, we have only had a few days to look at these things and its most likely that its possible to even make a much better mirage build.

My main point is that in the games current state it will be a better option than chronomancer.

It’s not like gw2 is a complex game with complex mechanical interactions. There’s not that many ways to build a character, especially with the obvious restrictions of being a condie build that bursts without relying on clones. You can burst with shatters, you can burst with weapon skills, you can burst with ambush skills. That’s literally it. All of those methods have downsides, and chrono is far better at shatter bursting.

I think you’re just afraid to post the build because then people would see how not impressive the burst actually is. There’s no shame in being wrong you know, it’s ok.

Thats why im surprised people have so much trouble finding mirage any good. Whats the difference between streaming the build and posting the build?

Jace al Thor.6745:

Abelisk.4527:

I have to agree with Frostball. I have fallen in love with Mirage and it’s disheartening to see a lot of people not enjoying the playstyle. I’m still tweaking my build constantly.

It’s not the play style that people don’t like I think per say. It’s the fact that half the stuff doesn’t work, have synergy with existing traits, etc.

Axe was a horrible choice for a main hand when the community had been asking for pistol, focus, and dagger. All potentially would have made for a better mainhand. Heck Pistol would be great because it’s a condi spec. But axe sucks. The clunky, pathing doesn’t work well, and damage is to low range to short. Dodges are having to be used offensively for burst, that’s completely against the inherent mechanics. Then you have the issue it’s slow. Chrono fixed that but now you’re back to travelers rune or what not for speed. This leads to the fact Mirage mirrors tend to spawn where you aren’t at and then you have to walk to them or burn blink/jaunt to use them.

Like I said, I like the idea and the potential play style. Anet Judy didn’t do it justice.

Im not talking about the design of the spec, i think the design is actually quite horrible so far and some skills are just really out of place and underpowered but that doesnt mean the specialization is bad. Like i made an example of the dodge stunbreak trait, the design of it really isnt healthy for the game but its an extremely powerful effect, like the daredevil dodge.

Also id like to mention that my current build is only the strongest build i have yet to see myself. Im not saying it is the strongest build possible or it is what everyone will play in the future. While my build might be strong, we have only had a few days to look at these things and its most likely that its possible to even make a much better mirage build.

My main point is that in the games current state it will be a better option than chronomancer.

Ansau.7326:

In an ideal situation, Mirage has insane condi burst, but in a realistic scenario that burst is much harder to achieve.
- Clones insta-die to cleave or AoE.
- You will often have phantasms.
- You won’t have all dodges for offense.
- There’s a lot of access to Resistance.

Mirage seems crazy for the numbers people get in golems (like Holosmith), but when you look a bit further into the specialization, it is clear there are a lot of issues, and some of them cannot be solved by tweaking some numbers here and there, they need deep mechanical changes.

Btw, don’t underestimate Chrono damage. They did some changes that became shadowed by the new elite specializations. This is what I can achieve with normal kiting, torch and F1 against a mob that kills clones…

Again, you people are looking at the wrong build type. Crazy condition stacks are easily achievable in normal games, with fast succession.

Fay.2357:

Frostball.9108:

Jace al Thor.6745:

Frostball.9108:

musu.9205:

Frostball.9108:

Refia Montes.3205:

Frostball.9108:

Levetty.1279:

Since you don’t explain why I am forced to presume you are wrong and everybody else is right.

Mirage enables things you normally couldnt do, like stack 20 confusion on enemies with cover conditions without trouble whilst still having good options for survivability.

Except Condi Chrono can do that too. With Moa, CS split condi burst it’s possible.

I said without trouble. And with chrono youre not going to be able to survive nearly as well.

for condi burst we could agree , but clone still dies easily for that happens , and defense from mirage is worse than chrono .

maybe you could link us your build ?

Clones dying easily doesnt matter, this is a burst build that doesnt rely on clones being alive for you. The defense for mirage can be upped as well which makes it have more defense and arguably still more damage than chrono. However i think the burst version is much better.

It’s a butst build… centered around clone ambush. Clones dying easily DOES matter quite a bit actually. Everything mirage can do I can do better on Chrono. Sadly Mirage just wasn’t fleshed out like it should have been. Axe is clunky and does poor damage, ambush skills should be baseline, the concept of mirage mirrors is a joke when they span far away with a short time frame to get to them. Can you get ridiculous stacks? Sure on a golem or a noob that stands still in hotjoin. Other than that the apex needs a fairly extensive rework

No, its not. If you cant do anything better on mirage you should look into getting some new build ideas going or just getting used to the playstyle.

Not relying on clones staying alive limits the options pretty significantly. You’re probably using the dueling blinds + confusion conversion along with torment and amped torch burns from illusions.

This works for a burst..sorta. You can combo axe 3 or scepter 3 with spamming a few shatters, mirage advance thingy, and torch skills to get a nice condition burst. However, it wastes a bunch of cooldowns to achieve, doesn’t actually apply significant cover conditions, and is extremely prone to pathing bugs if you’re using axe 3 for this.

Additionally, you don’t have inspiration, so you’ve got very limited condition cleanse that will rely on the mantra and jaunt, both with their own issues. You have extremely limited boonstrip, so good luck fighting classes with good boon sustain, stab, resistance, etc. You have very limited cc options, so you’re not really useful in fights for controlling downed targets.

Let’s talk about what mesmer does in sPvP. Usually you’re taking the role of the roaming +1 class with a side dish of map control through portal and single target lockdown with moa. As mirage, you can still take portal, but you’re a far weaker +1 due to the utter lack of cc and boon strip. You can still moa, but without CS it ends up in a very long cooldown. You’re much easier for the enemy group to lock down and destroy without the defense of shield, so expect to be targeted and trained down immediately every fight.

Ultimately it’s basically like helseth said in his thread: Mirage does everything worse than chrono, and is clunky and awkward to play as well.

You can ignore what im saying for now but youll accept it eventually once youll be playing mirage. Awkwardness and clunkiness is definitely in some parts of mirage but not really in my build from what ive experienced, there is one thing but its mostly due to the skill not working as intended. A lot of the clunkiness also comes just from inexperience and mechanical failure while playing.

TheOneWhoSighs.7513:

Frostball.9108:

TheOneWhoSighs.7513:

Frostball.9108:

TheOneWhoSighs.7513:

Frostball.9108:

Refia Montes.3205:

Frostball.9108:

Levetty.1279:

Since you don’t explain why I am forced to presume you are wrong and everybody else is right.

Mirage enables things you normally couldnt do, like stack 20 confusion on enemies with cover conditions without trouble whilst still having good options for survivability.

Except Condi Chrono can do that too. With Moa, CS split condi burst it’s possible.

I said without trouble. And with chrono youre not going to be able to survive nearly as well.

In what scenario are you talking about?

PvE?

sPvP?

WvW roaming?

WvW zergs?

The only scenario I would agree that the weaver would survive easier is that last one, a blob in WvW. All the dodging, stun breaks and movement abilities of the Weaver make it a lot easier to survive in a zerg if you’re caught out.

But I wouldn’t run a weaver in a zerg. It brings nothing to a zerg. It’s incredibly selfish, and simultaneously missing the kill & finishing potential of a daredevil.

Im talking of mirage and specifically spvp since i do not play in other areas of the game.

Then you’re probably just bad at chrono, to be completely honest.

Feel free to check my gameplay on twitch. Ive played in multiple top teams in the past, as anyone relevant in the scene would know. twitch.tv/frostball99

Literally means nothing to me. Especially in this game, where the competition has mostly quit.

“I was in a top team in a dead competitive scene”

In the past, as in when it was not indecent to have hope for the games pvp scene. Anyhow since you didnt recognise me to begin with its probably pointless to explain.

In case people havent figured out the build by the launch of the expansion, ill stream gameplay of it. There will probably be some differences in my build nevertheless even if people do find the essence of the build.

@Jace al Thor.6745

Jace al Thor.6745:

Frostball.9108:

musu.9205:

Frostball.9108:

Refia Montes.3205:

Frostball.9108:

Levetty.1279:

Since you don’t explain why I am forced to presume you are wrong and everybody else is right.

Mirage enables things you normally couldnt do, like stack 20 confusion on enemies with cover conditions without trouble whilst still having good options for survivability.

Except Condi Chrono can do that too. With Moa, CS split condi burst it’s possible.

I said without trouble. And with chrono youre not going to be able to survive nearly as well.

for condi burst we could agree , but clone still dies easily for that happens , and defense from mirage is worse than chrono .

maybe you could link us your build ?

Clones dying easily doesnt matter, this is a burst build that doesnt rely on clones being alive for you. The defense for mirage can be upped as well which makes it have more defense and arguably still more damage than chrono. However i think the burst version is much better.

It’s a butst build… centered around clone ambush. Clones dying easily DOES matter quite a bit actually. Everything mirage can do I can do better on Chrono. Sadly Mirage just wasn’t fleshed out like it should have been. Axe is clunky and does poor damage, ambush skills should be baseline, the concept of mirage mirrors is a joke when they span far away with a short time frame to get to them. Can you get ridiculous stacks? Sure on a golem or a noob that stands still in hotjoin. Other than that the apex needs a fairly extensive rework

No, its not. If you cant do anything better on mirage you should look into getting some new build ideas going or just getting used to the playstyle.

TheOneWhoSighs.7513:

Frostball.9108:

TheOneWhoSighs.7513:

Frostball.9108:

Refia Montes.3205:

Frostball.9108:

Levetty.1279:

Since you don’t explain why I am forced to presume you are wrong and everybody else is right.

Mirage enables things you normally couldnt do, like stack 20 confusion on enemies with cover conditions without trouble whilst still having good options for survivability.

Except Condi Chrono can do that too. With Moa, CS split condi burst it’s possible.

I said without trouble. And with chrono youre not going to be able to survive nearly as well.

In what scenario are you talking about?

PvE?

sPvP?

WvW roaming?

WvW zergs?

The only scenario I would agree that the weaver would survive easier is that last one, a blob in WvW. All the dodging, stun breaks and movement abilities of the Weaver make it a lot easier to survive in a zerg if you’re caught out.

But I wouldn’t run a weaver in a zerg. It brings nothing to a zerg. It’s incredibly selfish, and simultaneously missing the kill & finishing potential of a daredevil.

Im talking of mirage and specifically spvp since i do not play in other areas of the game.

Then you’re probably just bad at chrono, to be completely honest.

Feel free to check my gameplay on twitch. Ive played in multiple top teams in the past, as anyone relevant in the scene would know. twitch.tv/frostball99

TheOneWhoSighs.7513:

Frostball.9108:

Refia Montes.3205:

Frostball.9108:

Levetty.1279:

Since you don’t explain why I am forced to presume you are wrong and everybody else is right.

Mirage enables things you normally couldnt do, like stack 20 confusion on enemies with cover conditions without trouble whilst still having good options for survivability.

Except Condi Chrono can do that too. With Moa, CS split condi burst it’s possible.

I said without trouble. And with chrono youre not going to be able to survive nearly as well.

In what scenario are you talking about?

PvE?

sPvP?

WvW roaming?

WvW zergs?

The only scenario I would agree that the weaver would survive easier is that last one, a blob in WvW. All the dodging, stun breaks and movement abilities of the Weaver make it a lot easier to survive in a zerg if you’re caught out.

But I wouldn’t run a weaver in a zerg. It brings nothing to a zerg. It’s incredibly selfish, and simultaneously missing the kill & finishing potential of a daredevil.

Im talking of mirage and specifically spvp since i do not play in other areas of the game.

Refia Montes.3205:

Frostball.9108:

Refia Montes.3205:

Frostball.9108:

Levetty.1279:

Since you don’t explain why I am forced to presume you are wrong and everybody else is right.

Mirage enables things you normally couldnt do, like stack 20 confusion on enemies with cover conditions without trouble whilst still having good options for survivability.

Except Condi Chrono can do that too. With Moa, CS split condi burst it’s possible.

I said without trouble. And with chrono youre not going to be able to survive nearly as well.

You would since Shield, WoE and CS exists. Not to mention you run Insp trait line too.

If you think Chrono doesn’t have as much survivability, you’re wrong :P

Using big cooldowns for one burst —→ no trouble? While on mirage you can burst multiple times and have stronger burst.

musu.9205:

Frostball.9108:

Refia Montes.3205:

Frostball.9108:

Levetty.1279:

Since you don’t explain why I am forced to presume you are wrong and everybody else is right.

Mirage enables things you normally couldnt do, like stack 20 confusion on enemies with cover conditions without trouble whilst still having good options for survivability.

Except Condi Chrono can do that too. With Moa, CS split condi burst it’s possible.

I said without trouble. And with chrono youre not going to be able to survive nearly as well.

for condi burst we could agree , but clone still dies easily for that happens , and defense from mirage is worse than chrono .

maybe you could link us your build ?

Clones dying easily doesnt matter, this is a burst build that doesnt rely on clones being alive for you. The defense for mirage can be upped as well which makes it have more defense and arguably still more damage than chrono. However i think the burst version is much better.

Fay.2357:

Frostball.9108:

Levetty.1279:

Since you don’t explain why I am forced to presume you are wrong and everybody else is right.

Mirage enables things you normally couldnt do, like stack 20 confusion on enemies with cover conditions without trouble whilst still having good options for survivability.

What cover conditions? Torment and bleed? As if we didn’t do that already… Mirage can’t do anything that chrono can’t do except illusion retarget gimmicks.

I just wanted to specify so that people dont think you can only do confusion damage and that it would be a one trick. And saying mirage cant do anything that chrono cant is just purely wrong.

Refia Montes.3205:

Frostball.9108:

Levetty.1279:

Since you don’t explain why I am forced to presume you are wrong and everybody else is right.

Mirage enables things you normally couldnt do, like stack 20 confusion on enemies with cover conditions without trouble whilst still having good options for survivability.

Except Condi Chrono can do that too. With Moa, CS split condi burst it’s possible.

I said without trouble. And with chrono youre not going to be able to survive nearly as well.

Levetty.1279:

Since you don’t explain why I am forced to presume you are wrong and everybody else is right.

Mirage enables things you normally couldnt do, like stack 20 confusion on enemies with cover conditions without trouble whilst still having good options for survivability.

By this i do not want to imply that the design of the spec is good. They kittened up with the design of some traits and skills, some of them blow. Thats a fair argument and something that probably should be addressed when some of the traits are just flat out unplayable.

What i want to put forward is that mirage is far from underpowered and something id argue to be at least one of the best specializations for now. Mirage definitely doesnt need an all around buff but rather a new look at some of the skills and traits that are underpowered and flawed.

Im not going to go into how some traits like stunbreak on dodge should not exist. They will always come up anyways but to give some perspective, its like daredevil dodge on steroids.

Ithilwen.1529:

@ Frostball

You are factually incorrect. As the saying goes, “I was there.” I complained bitterly about it on forum at the time and was disparaged as “just bad” and quite a few other descriptions.

Another player reported 100 straight losses.. though that is only hearsay.

@ NotASmurf.1725

I’m sorry you chose to throw games. I was doing my best, every game. Ethics demanded it in my opinion.

Again, I’d like to know three things from ANET:

Was my account punished? (actually my alt account which I played through to getting The Ascension through sheer grind.)

Why were matches set up with such a harsh bias?

Is the matchmaker still making biased matches?

How hard is it to understand im talking about the current state of the game, the current matchmaking. Heres when i would say in all caps im not talking in past tense you —-— —-—. And again, no i am not incorrect.

Ithilwen.1529:

Frostball.9108:

Crinn.7864:

Frostball.9108:

Ithilwen.1529:

So now that you are talking, Gaile, I have a question:

Does ANET punish accounts by downrating them during the season so they get worse games? Was my account so punished? Is that why I got 68 straight losses?

I got inspired by this post. Id give 1k gold to see someone lose 68 games in a row and be able to prove it. I dont think itd be possible even if you tried.

It’s actually not that inconceivable. There has to be at any given point, a “worst player in the queue” that player presumably will be losing nearly all their matches, and if for whatever reason that player is really determined and does not give up, they could end up with a loss streak with no upper bounds.

It is. Try doing it yourself. The game forces you to win games.

Incorrect. Although I will admit that this was during one of the early “competitive” seasons.

As a secondary question: I’d like to know if the game is still deliberately setting up a winning side.

My question is; Was it simply the system designed to give win streaks? Or, (as I was told, ) was my account deliberately downrated to be consistently on the losing side?

If my account was punished.. that is a singulary ineffective way to do it. When a player is kittened, make sure they lose more. That way they’’ll feel better and be less anti social. Oh and don’t tell them why they are losing.

else if my account was not being punished, why was the system set up that harshly biased and is it still biased?

If the bias is still in the system it could be an explanation for the current match quality. Was that code properly returned to making 50/50 matches?

Its not incorrect.

Crinn.7864:

Frostball.9108:

Ithilwen.1529:

So now that you are talking, Gaile, I have a question:

Does ANET punish accounts by downrating them during the season so they get worse games? Was my account so punished? Is that why I got 68 straight losses?

I got inspired by this post. Id give 1k gold to see someone lose 68 games in a row and be able to prove it. I dont think itd be possible even if you tried.

It’s actually not that inconceivable. There has to be at any given point, a “worst player in the queue” that player presumably will be losing nearly all their matches, and if for whatever reason that player is really determined and does not give up, they could end up with a loss streak with no upper bounds.

It is. Try doing it yourself. The game forces you to win games.

Ben Phongluangtham.1065:

Frostball.9108:

Ben Phongluangtham.1065:

Good question. When I’ve done it myself, I did absolutely nothing. No chat, no moving and no condis were put on me. I’ll ask a programmer to look at the code and tell me on Monday.

Thanks, problem is i got stuck in one of the pillars at mid in temple. The pillars are fairly small so i kept getting hit from mid point. Anyway couldve relogged and didnt really matter so its fine, just wanted to see if it would work out.

Could you also ask if knockbacks and such also have effect? I guess you ment going over everything but just making sure. Also moving camera, as in left click held down to look around. Im testing some of these myself, will update if i find something out.

Moving camera is fine, boons are fine.

Looks like 3 things will interrupt the /stuck action. Moving, using a skill or getting into combat. Getting stuck in a wall close to point, it’s going to be difficult to avoid getting put into combat.

Well that doesnt matter so much i guess since you can relog. I think it could be very nice if the text on the warning when relogging was updated a bit? Its a bit too vague so some people end up not wanting to do it because they think theyll get dishonor.

Ithilwen.1529:

So now that you are talking, Gaile, I have a question:

Does ANET punish accounts by downrating them during the season so they get worse games? Was my account so punished? Is that why I got 68 straight losses?

I got inspired by this post. Id give 1k gold to see someone lose 68 games in a row and be able to prove it. I dont think itd be possible even if you tried.

Ben Phongluangtham.1065:

Good question. When I’ve done it myself, I did absolutely nothing. No chat, no moving and no condis were put on me. I’ll ask a programmer to look at the code and tell me on Monday.

Thanks, problem is i got stuck in one of the pillars at mid in temple. The pillars are fairly small so i kept getting hit from mid point. Anyway couldve relogged and didnt really matter so its fine, just wanted to see if it would work out.

Could you also ask if knockbacks and such also have effect? I guess you ment going over everything but just making sure. Also moving camera, as in left click held down to look around. Im testing some of these myself, will update if i find something out.

Moving camera is fine, boons are fine.

Kitta.3657:

Frostball.9108:

https://gfycat.com/LegalAntiqueBuzzard
https://gfycat.com/ScentedAdoredEagle

Im showing this because its honestly useless, its never good for anyone let alone the whole team to be in the enemy base. Its just a silly bug that came with the amazing new version of kyhlo.

Maybe ill get Anet to also fix this by posting it on forums and getting infracted, seems to be the only way to get a hold of them within a reasonable amount of time.

Do you think they should be punished for abusing it in an AT?

I dont think so, the bug is really not useful. If the team manages to down your whole team multiple times next to your spawn and then have the time to get everyone in the base youve lost the game either way, you wouldnt have any better chances of winning if they didnt do it. In fact, you most likely have a higher chance of coming back in the game if they try to do this.

NotASmurf.1725:

What happened?

Multiple changes to maps added in the past patches have dissappeared due to new patches, this happens extremely often.

The dissappeared things include teleport pathing, invisible walls, glitch prevention etc. Basically everything that has to do with maps.

Ashantara.8731:

Just for the record, there are also girls/women in PvP, “bois”. ^^

We dont discriminate in the Nacked Army, we refer to both with bois.

https://youtu.be/04854XqcfCY

Hello bois, im sure youve all heard the tales of the unbreachable wall on the way to legend in the pvp ladder. We did it. On stream. Nacked. On revenant.
Screenshot : http://i.imgur.com/uMKx276.jpg Vods at : https://www.twitch.tv/frostball99
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Ben Phongluangtham.1065:

It may be faster for you to type /stuck and then not move. After 30 seconds, it should teleport you back to your spawn. If you move or do any other activity, it will cancel the /stuck command and you won’t be able to attempt it again for 2 minutes.

Once it moves you back to spawn, you can’t use the command again for 10 minutes.

I did /stuck and didnt move for 30 seconds, no effect. Does it also account for if i move my mouse? Does it matter if i get hit? If i have condis on me?

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Im showing this because its honestly useless, its never good for anyone let alone the whole team to be in the enemy base. Its just a silly bug that came with the amazing new version of kyhlo.

Maybe ill get Anet to also fix this by posting it on forums and getting infracted, seems to be the only way to get a hold of them within a reasonable amount of time.

Please stop doing this Anet, its getting pretty annoying when the roll backs also affect teleport spots and not just glitches.

You can get in both bases in kyhlo just by jumping. Most likely not approved by Anet so i wouldnt do it in tournaments/ranked during the games. Doesnt look like that guys doing much harm though.

I think the reason the rewards are horrible is so that people have less incentive to join every daily AT. They want many people to have the chance of joining the monthly.

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Ben Phongluangtham.1065:

We’re aware of the issue and are working on getting people unstuck. Unfortunately, we’re going to have to cancel this tournament.

We’re working on tracking down the issue and hope to get it resolved quickly.

UNSTICK ME AND MY FRIENDS PLEASE
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Updrafts in pvp. The arena is horrible for reasons that shouldve been obvious. No 1v1 option outside of game browser. New map is small in comparison to the old. New map has worse training bots (theyre too close to the ledges and too close to eachother).

Yeah i know they wont add 1v1 or remove updrafts. Please add up to the list i most likely forgot half the things already.

Rev doesnt need anything really in my opinion, a very very slight buff if any at all. Dont tell me to go soloq rev i do that on stream without armor.

This happens a lot, not in every update but ridiculously many.

This was fixed 2 patches ago, and now its unfixed again. This is just an example of how it could harm the game.

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Will see i guess, i thought it was quality post though. Now theyll get to fix it.

Infraction, message said infracted due to rude to development team. I just told the truth though, i did their job better in 2 seconds and thats pretty sad.

All maps are as such. The limit youre talking of is just the real border of the map. You can find your way out of the map on purpose on most maps quite easily. Pulls, knocks and ports can get you out of the map every once in a while.

Gaile Gray.6029:

To folks who are arguing for a fix one week in advance of the release of the outfit. Let’s be clear: You didn’t have “early access.” You used data-mined information to try to gain access to, or look at, an unreleased item. We’re not going to try to chase down issue reports related to data-mined or leaked information. Doing so is not productive, and is counter to our policies about such content. Content that is data-mined is subject to change, subject even to removal. Those who view it or try to build a case for its future usefulness — such as seeing stats and expecting that they absolutely will not change — do so at their own risk.

I absolutely see why it wasnt fixed in one week but what youre saying seems contradictory to me considering youve done the exact thing youre saying you wont do in the past. I cant remember the item in question but there was a datamined code that would make peoples games crash which you eventually fixed.

bring back 2015

Guys, Endure pain proc isnt passive cuz i need to hit the warrior to activate it.

MissCee.1295:

Not so long ago, LoL held a roundtable meeting between developers and several player representatives. The purpose was to address issues with queue times and match quality.

More recently Anet have been surveying players regarding changes to WvW.

It’s obvious there is no need for “radio silence”. Yet the pvp community only receives the odd breadcrumb here & there from devs.

There are a lot of genuine competitors (at varied skill levels) in the pvp community, Anet needs to take their head out of the sand long enough to listen.

Maybe we, the pvp community, need to stop complaining and get proactive. Create a survey to develop an accurate picture of what we want? Is just an idea.

Anet has done the same thing with gw2, pro players and devs have met and discussed different things about pvp and how to improve them but a lot of the things are not really things we know much about. We can tell exactly whats wrong with the game but in alot of cases we dont know how to fix it. I know for example that the old leaderboard (the real old one, not the point system board) was better than the current league pip system but they still had problems like for example with how volatile they were. I definitely agree with pips sucking though, i think a numbers system would be better since itd also be more accurate, i dont think a win and a loss should always give you the same amount of pips or whatever, i dont really agree with having win streaks be a thing either but maybe theyre essential. I dont agree with safe walls above emerald. The no pip loss in case of desertion was a really good change imo. I feel like theyre going in the right direction, well see in future seasons.

I have no clue what could they do to make the matchmaking better. I think it could be a slight bit better because currently the range of people i can get in my team is between pros and people who dont really know at all whats going on. I have never played another game with a really good matchmaking though, has anyone else? I think the current system could be a bit better but i feel like matchmaking is never really going to work properly in a game unless youre playing with a full team. I just wrote way too much