Guild Wars 2

Pretty accurate.

Swagger.1459:

Of course it’s been lip service… Anet is not changing stuff for us really, they are pushed to do things now that a super pvp game called CU is becoming reality and they have to compete…

We will see an effort now because they don’t have a choice anymore.

Camelot Unchained is so so far from being able to compete with GW2 that it’s not even funny. GW2 will kill itself long before CU comes close to touching it…

I wouldn’t worry about it. Just wait until Season 2 when win streaks bumps you over that hump.

lalalalala

I’m just here for post count

Remember when Anet said that elite specs would not be more powerful than core specs?

Remember when Anet said there would be a balancing patch before Leagues began?

Remember when Anet said there would be WvW tournaments regularly?

At this point I ask you, do you still believe anything Anet says?

chibbi.3706:

DH is not a problem, you just go through the traps with stab and you dodge, or pop an invul like endure pain.

If only a warrior’s endure pain had a 20s cooldown like your traps huh?..

Sure use up all your dodges and cooldowns so the second set of traps will wreck you when you try to contest the point. Great idea.

At some point posts like this cease to be funny , cease to cause any anger from me or any despair. I’m reaching a point where I simply dont care about the well-being of GW2 as a game anymore. There’s better things to do with my free time than rage at Anet.

Ragmon.6350:

All of the professions need an overhaul. The conditions and boons need a redux, that and some boons and conditions need to be profession specific (max 3 profs should have one try of cond and boon).

ramble ramble, the whole system needs a major rework to function properly in the future.

In other games that’s usually part of an expansion. An overhaul to classes is expected when introducing an expansion with new classes and so many new builds. In GW2, the expansion released WAY before it was polished or even had enough content.

TheOneWhoSighs.7513:

Harvey.7820:

TheOneWhoSighs.7513:

Vieux P.1238:

Mark my words.. This game is going to DIE before next expansion comes out!

Silly human, MMOs don’t die. They just get remade.

They just become Aion, Rift, SWTOR, Wildstar, Archangel, etc.. They become a conglomerate glob of available MMOs on the market that only a tiny population continue to play because they’ve already invested so much into the game and are unwilling to let it go.

GW2 had the potential to topple WoW’s waning popularity. It got so many things right. Dodge roll, action combat, unparalleled art team, B2P business model, gear neutralization in PvP, World vs World. So many things they did so right but with HoT it just seems they’ve become further and further removed from their vision of what GW2 should be and what made it great in the first place and more and more focused on Gem Store, paywalls, grind walls, time gates.

I mean, why was the Esports direction even taken?? It was the marketing guys who thought it would be a good idea, not the developer’s original vision when GW2 launched. Any company that lets its marketing team run the final decision will get exactly what Anet has on its hands right now: a bitter playerbase that feels it’s been alienated and exploited for money while the company no longer has the player’s best interests in mind.

GW2 feels a lot more about how I can help fund Anet as a company than how much fun I’m having in the game. The immersion is leaving and along with it the playerbase.

Will GW2 die? Probably not, will it join the mass of MMOs that nobody cares about anymore and slowly withers away as its disgruntled veterans move on to other games?

My fear is that it already has.

sigh

“should be and what made it great in the first place and more and more focused on Gem Store, paywalls, grind walls, time gates.”

Gem Store <— The gem store focus is minimal now. They’ve largely just done mild reskins. Compared TO THE LITERAL 3 YEARS OF RESKINS WE’VE HAD

paywalls <— It’s an expansion, what the hell were you expecting?

grind walls <— The player base has asked FOR 3 YEARS NOW, TO HAVE ACTUAL END GAME GRINDING

time gates <— A natural part of end game grinding, and a reason to take a break from a CASUAL MMO

why was the Esports direction even taken? <— It was taken decades ago, they’ve been hosting tournaments for a while now.

Edit:
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/check-out-the-esl-guild-wars-2-opening-cup-finals-this-sunday/

So your sentiment is that nothing is wrong or out of ordinary right now in the current state of GW2? Is that honestly what you’re trying to preach?

The problem isn’t Metabattle. If there were to exist a build that could kill everything with 1 button and no thinking players would eventually find out and use that build regardless of whether or not Metabattle existed. The problem is that this game is unbalanced the the Devs dont know how to fix that.

TheOneWhoSighs.7513:

Vieux P.1238:

Mark my words.. This game is going to DIE before next expansion comes out!

Silly human, MMOs don’t die. They just get remade.

They just become Aion, Rift, SWTOR, Wildstar, Archangel, etc.. They become a conglomerate glob of available MMOs on the market that only a tiny population continue to play because they’ve already invested so much into the game and are unwilling to let it go.

GW2 had the potential to topple WoW’s waning popularity. It got so many things right. Dodge roll, action combat, unparalleled art team, B2P business model, gear neutralization in PvP, World vs World. So many things they did so right but with HoT it just seems they’ve become further and further removed from their vision of what GW2 should be and what made it great in the first place and more and more focused on Gem Store, paywalls, grind walls, time gates.

I mean, why was the Esports direction even taken?? It was the marketing guys who thought it would be a good idea, not the developer’s original vision when GW2 launched. Any company that lets its marketing team run the final decision will get exactly what Anet has on its hands right now: a bitter playerbase that feels it’s been alienated and exploited for money while the company no longer has the player’s best interests in mind.

GW2 feels a lot more about how I can help fund Anet as a company than how much fun I’m having in the game. The immersion is leaving and along with it the playerbase.

Will GW2 die? Probably not, will it join the mass of MMOs that nobody cares about anymore and slowly withers away as its disgruntled veterans move on to other games?

My fear is that it already has.

Yeah I quit too. I just dont have the heart to keep waiting and waiting and waiting without a promise that the balance patch at the end of January will actually bring any balance instead of just creating a new overpowered Meta.

My faith in the balance team is largely waning and I just log on for my dailies in a Hotjoin server when I feel like playing a bit. Otherwise I just log on for a few seconds to take my daily reward and go back to gearing my Warrior in WoW to prep for Legion’s launch.

Vieux P.1238:

That’s ok.. Blade & soul will keep us company.

+1

Some people still enjoy smoking cigarettes. This doesn’t mean that smoking cigarettes is healthy. Glad to hear you’re enjoying the class, but there is merit in the QQ that’s out there.

FriendlyInvader.3126:

Lets see what balance changes and PR comments they have to save grace after new years first. You can’t just release this mess and not communicate AND expect your game to be successful.

Does it really matter what comments Anet makes when they’ve been proven liars?
They said elites builds will be an alternative to core builds and wont be a direct upgrade. Well guess what? The only class this is true for is Warriors and that’s why nobody plays them in this current “meta”.

What about the fact that there are so many more evades in the game now? Not only do we have too much CC (Taunt I’m looking at you), too much chill (reapers), we also have classes that can evade for days (mesmers, revenants, daredevils, etc.)

The game is so messed up right now. 1v1 duels feel much less skill based now and especially so if you’re trying to play a core build instead of an elite build despite Anet’s promise to balance core vs. elites.

I’ve resorted to taking a break as well and just enjoying WvW for now where Warriors aren’t a liability to their teams. I’ll be looking forward to see what balance comes in S2 especially after Anet’s repeated failure to deliver on their promises.

Rush cant even hit the target on even ground when they are running away from you much less if they strafe or are on uneven terrain. It’s one of the least reliable skills in the entire game.

I’m a warrior main too but I’ve found that scrapper plays like a how a warrior “should” feel in sPvP. If you haven’t tried scrapper I’d recommend a variation of the current meta build. You’ll find you’re extremely tanky and have a high melee uptime with good CC and support.

I mostly just avoid Leagues now due to the blatant imbalance and class stacking so I play some unranked and go back to WvW.

Crinn.7864:

Zdenny.2704:

Did you watch ESL yesterday? This meta is about bunkering and holding the points. Anet wants to be it played this way. You cap the point and try to hold it as much longer as you can. Nobody is going for kills, the cap points win the game. Ppl are fighting for minutes on one point just to protect it. Stick to it and you win the video game too. Go for dps, kill everybody, but if you don’t capture you will never win. This happens so many game those days for me.. Half of my team is usually only fighting and nobody is going for capturing, every single random game.

Edit: Go bunker, win the video game.

You realize that you have to kill people to get capture points right?

You realize that you dont have to kill people to capture points right?

Your first mistake was logging onto your warrior.

Everybody knows this. Nobody cares.

ESPORTS BABY HERE WE COME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes. Tier 4 of Emerald is significantly harder to pass than any other tier in Emerald

Guardian is much more viable than warrior in sPvP. Both are good in WvW. I dont know much about rangers.

cyberwolf.5830:

it should be the same as the lord from stronghold

+1

That 50% Win/Loss ratio MMR system working at it’s finest. Dont worry you’ll be sure to win your next game with a similar score in your favor.

The developers at Anet gets to have a vision and they express that vision however, developers within companies have no power because they dont bring in money. The people who bring in money decided that selling more HoT copies is more important than a fair and balanced game so they forced the developers to jack up all the elite specs in order to make more $$$.

Juba.8406:

I eat reapers for breakfast with my warrior.

Then you must run into some really really really really bad reapers at your MMR.

Stargalleum.4970:

Two really needed changes:

1) Nerf Revenant Hammer #2. Some guilds are going full revenant now and you can do 7k+ damage per hit to 5 players, on a skill with a 2-second cooldown. This is an absurd amount of damage and makes it so you can’t even get close to guilds that are running this setup.

2) Reverse the stability change in WvW, so that stability does not get stripped when CC is done. Again, this makes it very difficult for a group to engage another group, because they can simply be CC bombed.

I’m glad you’ve made a couple changes relevant to fighting guilds (the rally change, and points for killing). But the two things I mentioned above have the biggest impact on fighting guilds, please address them.

+1

But thank you for the amazing suggested changes thus far Anet!

The power creep in this game is beyond ridiculous. This is a step in the right direction. Keep nerfing everything.

Cynn.1659:

Teamplay is diamond skin counter. You just have to burst down the guy as a taem. Before he gets healed. And this is coming form someone who plays diamond skin ele. Eles have great sustain in 1v1 fights, but in teamfights. Just focus them down, and they will run out of heals eventually.

And while the whole team is busy chasing around the Ele they are getting bursted down themselves. This is a not a valid argument. If you need 4 other players to focus you in order to threaten you then your class is imbalanced. That’s the very definition of being OP.

samzius.5809:

I dont think the bunker meta is a problem because of class balance, i think that will always be the meta if people are serious about conquest. Its a flaw in the map design not the fine tuning of classes. The objective is to stand on points and not die.

I can agree with you on this. The bottom line is that I’m not a developer. These are issues developers should be aware of and address actively. I’m a player and if something isn’t fun, I say goodbye and move onto a game that’s fun.

It’s an L2p issue. Warriors are fine. Mesmers and revenants need more buffs.

There is no hotfix coming. Wait 2 months until season is over. No hotfixes, no balance changes. Nothing. Just wait

I personally dont give a flying rats kitten about some “legendary” backpack. The PvP in this game is unbalanced as hell and the meta simply isn’t fun at all with 3 to 4 bunkers on a team.

Game is balanced. Welcome to Esports

Browrain.7346:

We get it. Bunk mes is boring to fight against. We’re all in agreement there.

Everyone agrees except Anet

King xiuras.3615:

Dear players and dear Anet.

I’m playing warrior in pvp which is my main. I am still using the gs/hammer build. This build is still good in pvp, tough its not a meta anymore. I am tired of people saying war isn’t meta anymore. Let me set up a few things:

- I am not as brainless as a DH trap guard.
- I am not such a powerful monkhealer as druidù
- I am not a thief who dps ppl to 30% and uses the elite skill to stomp ppl
- I am not a chronomancer who put ppl in a circle, removing their stability and letting them fly in the air.
- I am not a reaper necromancer who got unlimited stability and 2 lives.

Pvp is about fun. It doesnt have to be always META. Stop the fuzz about how bad war is in pvp.

Greetings.
A pvp player.

I think you need to leave hotjoin and raise your MMR.

And the amount of terrible reaper players is ridiculous. I know they aren’t part of the “meta” at the moment but there’s so many incredibly bad players who all migrated to reaper.

skullfaerie.7203:

……This, uh, marketing team needs to seriously consider a change of career.

They wont need to as long as executives at Anet are as brain dead as they are. They cant react to something not working. They just watch it burn.

King Achiilies.4890:

Cruuk is a kittening scrub. Everytime he is on my team I have to stretch out my back and shoulders. That feel.

Cruuk can decap, but his ego is way higher than his skill.

How about the core issue?

Class imbalance

How many Esports would be Esports if there was this amount of imbalance? Would LoL be fun to watch if every team stacked the same exact champion? There’s a reason only 1 champion can appear in a match. So that of the same champions dont show up on each side like you’re seeing with the current “meta” builds in GW2.

I agree. I think we should buff bunker mesmer and condi revenants. Also, Warriors need to be nerfed please. Ty. I sign the message.

“You’re playing GW2 wrong. You have to get into an “Esports” team. Then you’ll have fun! We promise! (Oh also you have to play an elite spec so buy the HoT Expansion"

-Anet

EDIT: “Also, please come check out our gem store sales” -Anet

What about those times they stream for about 20 minutes on mute? Sometimes the GW2 stream is so far from professional that you give up trying to give helpful suggestions and sit back in amusement and laugh at them throw $400,000 away and think they’ll make an “Esport” out of their unbalanced bunker meta game where you have to buy the HoT expac to even be remotely competitive.

Burn.5401:

They still can’t balance their main mode “conquest” and you expect new modes? Optimistic to say the least.

+1

The big picture is they want to be an Esport without a proper matchmaking system in place. Like saying you want to be an olympic runner but you wanna keep sandals during races.

There’s a new topic like this every other day. Anet doesn’t care.

What Death Aggro said is right but one issue is that with the current system this “self-correcting” time period where everyone is still moving up the ranks and the Divisions haven’t yet stabilized will happen each time a new season starts and everyone is wiped back to Amber because the MMR system is separate from the League system. That’s the true problem.