Guild Wars 2

Firebrand feels clunky in WvW. Spellbreaker will most likely destroy wvw fighting guilds. scourge is brokenly op as well because of its condi clear and barrier spam.

Oh and renegade… straight up useless for wvw. the “skills” die instantly in fights and are useless. The short-bow is clunky and slow.

Wheres the skill lag fix? I mean come on, its been years and it’s still in the game. Even in 20v20 fights on EB it happens.

Straegen.2938:

We just had a major update, WvW will see the new those 9 masteries and they just announced two smaller updates for WvW Armor and Gliding. It has been a pretty good year for WvW updates in total.

I get that WvW doesn’t get the love that PvE does but it is a very tiny population and they have made a concerted effort to up the loot making WvW play rewarding. Hard core players are effectively getting cheap Legendary armor.

People who play WvW almost exclusively like our guild and do GvGs and look for fights dont care about legendary armor or pips granting us less inventory space. All we want is server stability, fixes to siege dmg (like being able to stop a 25 man taking your tower with 3 arrow carts), new and better maps etc.

Shadelang.3012:

MadameS.3582:

MadMan.5109:

Dear anet can you please stop kittening up wvw. People like it just the way it is right now. When you guys look back at the release of the desert bl map. Was that a great succes? No. But u guys kittened up wvw then and this will be the same. Stop putting pve crap into wvw. We the hardcore wvw players dont play pve. So please stop messing up our content. I know for a fact that lost of players will be leaving the game because of these things. They only game back when its back to normaal.

Gliding for wvw is actually going to be super fun, I don’t know how gliding offends you so much, and if someone is running away from you in your territory, they wont exactly be able to glide off, so youll probably have a better chance at catching them than before. Stop crying about something that hasnt even happened yet. xoxo

Gliding offends because certain people didn’t bother to read the whole post before they started typing.

dude… what else in this post would make a full time wvw player happy???? please explain

Tiawal.2351:

This is a nice surprise. Not the gliding in itself, we will see if that can stay in WvW, but the fact that WvW isn’t completely abandoned. And THAT is great.

We have to be open to change, otherwise we are already dead (not the game is dead, but us). I know that Anet tried some weird things like the golem week and added those no-skill airship & dragon banners, overpowered AC damage to annoy fighters and make them leave this game, and more. We came a long way, and they mostly pushed away those who wanted a fair and competitive, skill based environment. Thus the “hate” has very strong foundation here. We still have to move on and accept those changes that could improve the game mode. Gliding is one of these, albeit further tweaking will be needed maybe.

Territories is great ideea however. This could be the start of moving away from boring “siege wars” to territory capture and holding, encouraging a split up into multiple smaller groups.

WvW became extremely boring lately because the post-HoT meta (WvW needs badly a WvW focused skill balance), pointless k-train or pip-train – instead a competitive scene with consequences. We need a reason to compete and a meta that makes it fun to do it. Even if accommodating different play styles would require a compromise.

Change is good, if it is a good change. Maybe this isn’t, or isn’t enough. Still is great that work is being done and slowly we can start to hope again that WvW will be reborn from the actual post zombie state (because it’s worse than dead, for years now)

what makes you think territories will make wvw less seige wars and more competitive? I am interested to hear about it because so far my guild and i just think they are to give you the placebo effect of owning land.

mrme.5817:

HatSimulator.9362:

Devs. Please. Is this ALL we are getting other than legendary armor? no different maps or wvw being seperate from pve?

Mike o’ said in the AMA that wvw and pvp updates are not tied to the expac. Which means there is no content for them coming “with” the expansion. It does not mean that there won’t be new content coming.
It’s comical how many people post crap without reading the whole dev post…

Very aware of this already my dude.

Hi, I’ve almost exclusively played WvW with my guild, DUI, for 3 years. Some of us are disappointed that we didn’t get some much needed changes to WvW.

Without going into specifics, will there be any more changes close to the first few months of the expac or no? If not, a few key people in our guild are going to leave just from being disappointed.

We were really hoping for maybe some server upgrades so it can handle 30v30 fights without lagging. Fix eb lag. make wvw its own game mode, new maps, better maps, better desert bl, a fighting exclusive map for 15v15 like gw1, etc

Devs. Please. Is this ALL we are getting other than legendary armor? no different maps or wvw being seperate from pve?

hey uh anet, is this it? Is this the only WvW changes we get for the expac? or is there more?

Link.1049:

I do play thief. Have for 3 years. I built a dragonhunter and brought him into a match after visiting metabattle.com… literally just mashed buttons and didn’t have anyone telling me to kill myself because of the class I was playing.

If someone tells you to kill yourself on thief you have succeeded in your job. Tilting someone so hard they whisper you to die is the best thing you could do on thief.

also, SO WHAT if they do?

So instead you should play thief, mesmer, rev, engi, or ele. Every class is good if you arent a baddy. Lol

I got some salt for this.

kitten druids in WvW. Every time I fight a druid, even with many people, they never die until at least 20 seconds after the fight starts. Against druids its always longbow 2 immobe you for 7 seconds one trick pony garbage.

When I see druids, I literally just walk away and /laugh. Some if not most of them have no idea what to do after they waste longbow 4 and 2.

Cancer

Cant be that hard to actually hit 1 2 3 4 5 is it?

dodging epidemic bullkitten condi garbage

Please delete epidemic from the game or fix it. I beg of you anet. This is absolutely insane. every single guild is running it now

XTR.9604:

HatSimulator.9362:

These are cool but me and my guild discussed your builds in length together.

I really don’t like your warrior builds personally as I think phx str is worthless with no str duration. Also tactics is just bad in wvw especially if you drop disc for it

As previously mentioned, I took this trait line for small 5 man power warrior setup for more CC and might, it isn’t necessary and I did give an alternative build to that.

HatSimulator.9362:

your condi necro is bad as well. You should (read as NEED) get up to 50% condi duration AT MINIMUM. This is easily done by switching your trinkets to trailblazer then the rest should be dire if you can’t afford Trailblazer. In the end, all your gear should be full trailblazer no exceptions. You’ll get almost 80% condi duration which is needed in WvW with all the condi food and kitten.

I don’t personally play condi warrior, my fiance does for our small group and runs this build. Her damage from condi is the second largest in our group, only second to my condi warrior because its burst is probably the highest of anything in the game right now lol. Trailblazers is good stuff, but it isn’t needed to make the build work.

HatSimulator.9362:

Frontline ele with full celes seems okay but idk… I’d switch some of those up with cavs or marauder myself

Build needs a little bit of update honestly, if I were stilll running my ele, it would be a mix of marauder and crusaders most likely for small group play or solo play. My full cele build did me very well for a long time and eventually I did change to a marauder/zerk/cav build for solo play. There are videos from that time and build is linked there as well.

HatSimulator.9362:

Delete boonshare MEMEser. I’ve seen guilds with almost 5 of those and they can only stack 10-20 seconds of like 3 different boons with a perfect rotation.

Yep agreed, boonshare mesmer is dead now – I just dropped it off the list since it isn’t actually a viable build anymore in my opinion.

HatSimulator.9362:

someone in my guild said you had bad rev traits on the roamer build but idk about that one.

Rev in general is not very good for roaming anymore since the more recent nurfs, but that build still stands pretty strong for small man group play. Revenant is still super glitchy and annoying to play because of weapon swaps not working half the time, so most of my guild is moving away from running revenants in our group comp now as well.

HatSimulator.9362:

Frontline guard with full nomads and a staff gs is god awful. Switch those weapons to a mace/shield and hammer if you’re going full nomads. Greatsword is wasted as it has no healing. Also idk why you don’t take pure of voice unless you have extremely good condi clear from some other class.

Agreed, I never run full nomads, I was asked by a friend to throw an ultra tank guardian build together lol. I would never ever run that build personally because I survive in larger groups with my guardian running marauder/zerk lol..

Not every build there is for everyone, you choose what works for you. I’m not building meta builds, I’m building stuff that works for certain situations. Most of those builds will work where I grouped them under very well, but the roaming builds are group synergized for MY group based on my groups needs, rather it is damage, more CC, heals, or whatever.

Yo, appreciate the responses. Thanks for actually listening and taking my criticism well. My bad on the warrior thing

These are cool but me and my guild discussed your builds in length together.

I really don’t like your warrior builds personally as I think phx str is worthless with no str duration. Also tactics is just bad in wvw especially if you drop disc for it

your condi necro is bad as well. You should (read as NEED) get up to 50% condi duration AT MINIMUM. This is easily done by switching your trinkets to trailblazer then the rest should be dire if you can’t afford Trailblazer. In the end, all your gear should be full trailblazer no exceptions. You’ll get almost 80% condi duration which is needed in WvW with all the condi food and kitten.

Frontline ele with full celes seems okay but idk… I’d switch some of those up with cavs or marauder myself

Delete boonshare MEMEser. I’ve seen guilds with almost 5 of those and they can only stack 10-20 seconds of like 3 different boons with a perfect rotation.

someone in my guild said you had bad rev traits on the roamer build but idk about that one.

Frontline guard with full nomads and a staff gs is god awful. Switch those weapons to a mace/shield and hammer if you’re going full nomads. Greatsword is wasted as it has no healing. Also idk why you don’t take pure of voice unless you have extremely good condi clear from some other class.

K so ill spoonfeed you

What I use: http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQJASRnMdANegdhA2kC0hglsATpGU4iBvf2Q7qFZwVACAA-TVTBQBKwEX+0FAgDBwVUO0FlE7b/hFcBAKiSENcEAI3DAYCKBDo6PKRJUAAEgbezs5NDgUAFp1C-w

You have to play smart of course.

What I use if I need 3000 more health – http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQJARSjMdQVI2FCOeAdIWyCMlaQqLG8+ZDtrWkBXBIAA-TlSBQB+TXwZUCuv9HWwRAQDXAgMq8gcHCAA8AA4iSsEq+DpAiYrF-w

I just wish we could stack more than 250.
I get 250 elder wood and mithril so fast its crazy.

are you serious? It did get changed? so it actually got nerfed, not buffed? Great

I’ve tested this in all game modes. Rupturing smash never got changed.

its STILL broken. Fix this please

After the recent maintenance, the skill was still not fixed.

dual strike should stack like 5 might or idk give superspeed or something

Platinumz.8756:

I can confirm the 360 arc change isn’t working like the patch notes state. Not sure about the Daze duration but the animation speed is faster now.

Ya i noticed its actually faster but the animation is exactly the same

Rupturing smash still has a 1 second daze in tooltip and the animation is still exactly the same.

I could be wrong, But I’m pretty sure it did not get changed at all.

Cecilia.5179:

HatSimulator.9362:

Cecilia.5179:

Well if they are playing sustain druid, marauder warrior, or pu condi mesmer, I am inclined to do a few nonchalant hops on their corpse. This is also a really good way to get people to hate mail you.

whats marauder warrior? is that condi or just a warrior with PTVF gear? Seems like an odd hatred.

Also, i always jump on mesmers, thieves and rangers.

Marauder Warriors are the ones that are basically immune to everything half the time, do insane damage, and using greatsword to nab the still unnerfed adrenal health. They like to run damage reduction food or regen food. I find them somewhat cheesy but less cheesy than pu mesmer or sustain druid.

ohhh kitten… I play that.

Cecilia.5179:

Well if they are playing sustain druid, marauder warrior, or pu condi mesmer, I am inclined to do a few nonchalant hops on their corpse. This is also a really good way to get people to hate mail you.

whats marauder warrior? is that condi or just a warrior with PTVF gear? Seems like an odd hatred.

Also, i always jump on mesmers, thieves and rangers.

Its fine tbh. It lets people know when you have buffs on so they stand near you

lol shield is good bro, idk what youre talking about

Yaaa no one here is complaing its bad for pve beecuase no one cares. Most people are trying to find a way to make it good for pvp

Warrior is dead unless you have 1-2 others helping you on point.

I cant get anything to work in spvp but eviscerate and gunflame, which are bad when you have a kitten team

die to reaper die to engi die to thief die to dragon hunter die to everything but your own class

Pretty much need hoelbrek for this with how many reapers are out there and engis, almost everyone is condi and i only die to condi

I can attest to this build being good, its a hell of a lot better than mace/ sword

This is better than anything else right now.

couldnt agree more, how could anet be so oblivious?

eyestrain.3056:

Out of 20 guild members only 1 is willing to pay that price. It’s not a scientific sample but it’s probably not too unusual either.
For a couple pve maps and elite specializations the price is absurd. If I had that money to spend I could buy another game, not just DLC.

If a 10-20$ HoT ONLY package doesnt come out soon I have a feeling you wont be selling as many copies as you’d like. Hiking the price up in anticipation of that is just shooting yourself in the foot. Better to go high quality, small portion, reasonable price than medium quality, medium portion high price. The latter is how you lose loyalty, but the former is how you gain it.

Same here. Someone logged on to complain as well and is now taking a break from the game because of it. Only 1 guy was willing to buy it out of 100 members

Angel.6085:

You guys realize that $20 is roughly the cost of any living story. IE one or partial sections of one kittenty map and maybe 3 missions right?

All of you people expecting this for $20 are just not thinking, at all. It’s pretty funny.

I agree the standard should have a character slot. I also expected it to cost $50 and you should have expected it too.

Given that Anet has sold GW for what, $5? in the past, I seriously hope that they drop the price to $44.99 and let the people cry about it.

Please explain how you think this expac is adding enough content to be worth the price of the base game at release lol

Seriously, I’d even pay 30 for this with just the expac. The core game is at least worth 20 dollars at this point, Anet really thinks the expac is actually the same amount of content as the base game?

Kelnis.1829:

Hey, John Smith, bought the $99.99 version. The value isn’t what I’d call “ideal,” but I am one of the players that was looking to buy a physical collector’s edition ($150-200.) Overall, disappointed with the versions offered, but I was going to buy gems tonight anyway – ended up working out I guess. Also, HOW DARE YOU EXPECT PEOPLE TO PAY FOR YOUR EXPANSION.

Sorry your official forums are full of vitriol instead of more constructive feedback.

Im sorry, in this situation you are the 1% and every single other person is the 99%. your voice doesnt mean more than every one elses just because you had 100 dollars to blow on gems

“industry standard”

Oi, WoW added a whole lot more content than this expac, and didnt fore you to buy another copy of the game

I like how anet isnt responding to ANY of the community outrage here, and on reddit, and in game. No one is happy right now. I don’t know, I’ve sunk so much into this game but this is insane.

I, personally, feel like ascended is an extreme waste in wvw. You arent doing high level fracts so its pretty useless. the stat gain is pretty low, maybe 20 points here or there.

aB EXT.1287:

HatSimulator.9362:

1. Dueled a mesmer with full buffs, food and tools while he had none
2. dueled a ranger with full buffs food and tools with 25 stacks of whatever
3. fought only 2 sorta tanky eles. The rest were rangers, thieves, and the same mesmer
4. most of this wasnt roaming, it was outweighed duels.

cool build I guess, but I don’t see it working against anyone with armor or brains to capitalize on wasted dodges

and wtf was that engi doing? lol

Mostly fair observations. It does bother me that for some reason a fair amount of people were running without buffs that day. That being said, I personally don’t think I would have lost any of those fights had I not had more stacks than the opponent. I’m going to run without a stacking weapon next time I venture out for fights anyway. I have no argument with you on the weighted appearance of the video. I actually wasn’t really expecting to get so many fights that day (it’s usually super boring during daylight or super ganky in the evening), hence why I decided to make a montage.

That being said, I feel that the build is actually pretty well rounded. You have the potential to have constant high pressure due to your versatility, while retaining high HPS from adrenal health + signet, not to mention you’re pretty kitten tanky. If I were to improve (i.e waste less dodges) then it would be even more effective. The only hard counters I’ve encountered so far are condi PU mesmers and terror necros.

Hopefully I’ll get some 1vX fights this week to mix in (which is what you seem to be implying roaming actually is?) and see how it shapes up.

Going to look at possible revisions before I think about posting the build.

EDIT: Also, that engie was clearly either new or in full panic mode. Rifle totally counters bombs. Did all my melee damage with zerk stance active then gtfo. Poor dude(ette).

I do apoligize. I think I was depressed when I wrote this. I’m just really cynical and can only point out bad things.

now that im feeling better, cool video, just find something other than filthy rangers lol :P

1. Dueled a mesmer with full buffs, food and tools while he had none
2. dueled a ranger with full buffs food and tools with 25 stacks of whatever
3. fought only 2 sorta tanky eles. The rest were rangers, thieves, and the same mesmer
4. most of this wasnt roaming, it was outweighed duels.

cool build I guess, but I don’t see it working against anyone with armor or brains to capitalize on wasted dodges

and wtf was that engi doing? lol

Really just wanted someone from tech to see this ad be like oh let me go fix that or something is all

OstrichEggs account has been hacked ON STREAM twice now. The email was changed to a spam email that somehow got through anets support team. Baffling but the email was like hghhghgh123@hotmail.com.

Please please fix it. He doesnt really have a way to contact support right now.

Darnis.4056:

HatSimulator.9362:

Darnis.4056:

……….Not sure if trolling, or mentally handicapped.
More like #796 Engi NA.. and barely in the 300s of team que..
Yea definitely trolling or Brazilian.

solo queue rank suddenly means something! LOL

The top 20 people in the solo queue all got there after not playing for months then logging in for a day pal.

Dude, Are you trolling? The point of those videos was that you’re blasting a field in the start whether it be fire from ele (every team has an ele every match) or a warrior with bow. Not you randomly blasting NOTHING.

I got the point of the videos, Doing a funky rotation at the beginning of a game doesn’t add skill cap in any way shape or form.

Ele can provide 60+ seconds of swiftness alone.

Yea that’s true being in the top 100 of soloque doesn’t mean much, but you’re in the 800s of soloque/300 teamque, that’s legit farm fodder.

Lol legit farm fodder! It’s like I can choose what team i’m on? Im not in a guild that goes into team queues daily.
And its ok that you didn’t know. At least accept it. The point is that you said ele was the only thing needed to stack anything at the start of the game which is untrue in every way. Of course, it doesnt matter now.