Guild Wars 2

That Bronze League will likely be most evenly matched cannot be overstated. It’s going to be a bear to be stuck in an uneven match, so join Ehmry Bay and have a fighting chance!

Ehmry Bay didn’t have the advantage of having been an established beta test community, and we didn’t have the advantage of being carried by members of an Internet community that existed years before GW2 came to be.

Ehmry Bay was never in the running for top tier and those who consistently wanted to play in the Top 3 or the Top 5 have long since left the server. If you want to be in the top tier then you shouldn’t transfer to Ehmry Bay because we won’t get there unless we get a huge influx of active WvWers across all time zones, which is an unrealistic assumption.

With over 67,000 posts to date we do have the most active GW2 server forum community at ehmry.com where the moderation style is laid back and you aren’t exposed to temper tantrum throwing prima donna admins/mods.

Through Ehmry Bay’s ups and downs the forum provides stability and the forum resource isn’t at risk to just fizzle due to the owner transferring or losing interest as happened so many other server communities in the past.

Some say that Ehmry Bay has/had a lot more drama than other servers. I believe that we have just as much drama as other servers, the difference is that we actually have a place where that drama can be aired for all to see. Whether that’s good or bad is for the reader to decide, but at the very least “what you see is what you get” with Ehmry Bay and we do not delete the inconvenient truth just to present a facade of rainbows and pink unicorns.

On Ehmry Bay, and really on any other server this far down in tiers, your contribution as individual truly matters. You can actually make a difference and you can actually shape the course the server takes.

The people who are left on Ehmry Bay at this point really care, and that makes all the difference when it comes to the enjoyment and entertainment value players received from the game. The WvW commanders who are left care about being good with the limited resources they have. This one gal who runs “Tour de Waypoint” events in PvE and forum events week after week cares. The guy who maintains the public TS server even though he had to put up with all kinds of kitten cares so much that he maintains the server even though he isn’t on Ehmry anymore till we can get the license issues sorted out and transfer it to an Ehmry player. The guy who runs the forum (which isn’t plastered with ads like many other forums, and makes that guy no money at all) cares for Ehmry Bay players and will keep running the forum till Anet pulls the plug on the server (and probably beyond).

You can find good people on many servers, and you should absolutely get a feel for the top tier attitude so you know what it is like to be in tier 1, then come and check us out and see what it’s like when you play with people who care.

I submit http://www.ehmry.com for consideration.

14+ months into the game we have the largest and most active GW2 server forum.

I don’t have any issue with people leaving a server to try and find better gameplay for themselves elsewhere, in fact I encourage it because it’s better to leave than make everyone else miserable.

What I question is the expressed motivation to transfer. Someone in here said that “we are on Kaineng because we want to be top tier and we want large scale fights”. That makes zero sense.

EDIT: I get that a T1 server may be full, but there’s T2, T3, T4, no need to go to a T8 if you want to be in T1-3.

I certainly resent a T1 guild, who wants T1 fights yet joins a T8 server to then kitten up the gameplay of dozens of servers and thousands of players for weeks to come.

Littlefeather.8623:

I truly am sorry for the WvW state of both of your servers

No need to be sorry, the WvW state of Ehmry Bay is just fine for the people who are on it. Those who didn’t like it left to seek whatever it is they are looking for elsewhere.

This is very much a case of the problem being you. You as in your server, guilds transferring to a rising server because they want to “win”.

Someone else asked in here why people who want to play in T1 would leave a T1 server to join a T8 one. I don’t remember the answer, but no matter what it was, the truth is that people who join a “momentum server” do it because they want easy wins. It doesn’t matter how you turn and twist your rationale to say something to the contrary.

If you’d want top tier gameplay you’d join a top tier server, or don’t leave it in the first place.

Creating a server like Kaineng has become disrupts the normal gameplay of thousands of players as it moves through the tiers for no good reason at all. So while it’s not your personal fault that ArenaNet has created a game mechanic so inflexible that servers who suddenly rise are not appropriately matched but have to become the wrecking ball of normal servers for weeks, you also have to understand why people give you grief over it.

I can’t speak for anyone but myself, but if I didn’t like the gameplay on Ehmry Bay I’d go somewhere else. I don’t need to be pitied for not being on a top tier server because I made the choice to not be on one.

If it looks like a duck …

Henrik.7560:

Good luck ehmry, you guys do need more people, it sucks all those people went to maguuma and not you guys…

We could use some people who like mid-tier WvW. The folks who wanted upper tier WvW left and those who stayed (as a sweeping generalization) aren’t interested in the upper tier WvW playstyle.

In that sense it’s not too bad that we didn’t get a massive influx. We are looking for mellow WvW people.

Oozo.7856:

GJ to EB BTW

Not too late to join us!
We will remain mid-tier, and dare I say that you’d find a good home in our server forum community.

Sure, among more than 23,000 posts total you will find a few outliers, they are not representative of the content as a whole. Folks are welcome to have a look and form their own opinion though. It’s actually the purpose of this thread to encourage folks to do just that if they are interested in Ehmry Bay.

BTW, the PvP forum can only be read by registered users.

Well, it really explains how [PUNK] works which is one guild on the server. In all fairness too, that thread was one among those which prompted some reprimand and subsequent discussion with [PUNK] as a whole as to what they need to do if they want to continue participating on the forum.

If you look at more current threads/posts you will not find that type of posting anymore.

cesmode.4257:

To EB: Do you have a strong WvW presence in your tier? Able to field enough on most maps to take some points?

Folks who are more active can probably provide you with more detailed info, but WvW points are very much a matter of being selective with which objectives you take. We didn’t rise through the ranks with few players by being present in most maps. We definitely have a strong NA WvW presence for the mid-tiers. We are very weak in EU and weak in Oceanic time zones. However, I want to give a shout out to TDE which has shown a strong transition from being PvE to now doing scheduled WvW on oceanic times!

idari.4273:

You’re a little misinformed sir. RP transferred to eBay in T7, not T4

Sorry Idari. I went by a post from ONay ( http://www.ehmry.com/topic/904-aye-greetings-from-rising-pact-rp-latino/ ) on Nov 5th, which is week 45, during which we were in Tier 5. Honest mistake, didn’t know you arrived earlier, though we were in Tier 7 during week 42, which would have been October 15th through October 21.

BrockMcCleery.9562:

Emhry is a great server. It is a shame that numbers 24/7 matter so much in WvW ranks.

The thing is though that WvW tiers themselves are meaningless. There is no reward for being in a higher tier. Right now, for practical purposes, WvW tiers are a measure of WvW participation around the clock. The higher the tier the more likely it is that there is some large scale WvW action going on in all WvW maps at any time of day.

Ehmry Bay is a mid-tier server and those few who didn’t want to be in a mid-tier have transferred off. What’s left is a very solid community that will be a stable presence in mid-tiers.

While I am well familiar with the guilty by association fallacy I welcome you to have a look at the Ehmry Bay server forums where a number of members have responded to the one player calling you “maggots” that there is no need for such language and attitude.

It’s no secret that these official forums attract a disproportionally large number of trolls and the infraction system is too random and weak to actually deal with those attitudes. The official forums weren’t up when the game launched, but even if they would have been we still would have created out own community because of higher participation and collective “peer pressure” to keep the server forum usable.

It takes all kinds, and we, like any other server, have some folks who are more vocal and more trolly than others. On our community though there is a sense that no one who is participating wants to screw this up for anyone else and so there is a basic level of restraint that most often prevents people from just flying off the handle.

I invite you to have a look, and perhaps even register, and then compare our community to any other out there and show me one that has close to 1,800 members, close to 23,000 posts to date, and does not have any moderators who keep the peace.

We are self-regulating and part of that self-regulation is that members speak out against demeaning other servers. That’s all a community can do, they cannot make someone not post something.

saiyr.3071:

if someone on Ehmry makes a jab at Maguuma, it will be replied to. Deal with it.

Sorry someone insulted your e-honor.
I don’t think anyone has any issues with replies as long as they are factual.

It doesn’t take someone to be on your server to realize that someone from there coming here to say that you have no guild drama is either naive, not in the loop, or purposefully spreading misinformation.

As long as humans play this game there will be drama on any server because it’s human nature. Claiming otherwise lends you zero credibility.

wads.5730:

i’m sure my server isn’t immune to guild drama, but its certainly far far less likely to happen […] even though i’m not in any guild on my server

Between your server not having a public venue to vent drama, and you not being in a guild, it’s not hard to tell that you are comparing apples to oranges for no other reason than to bad-mouth Ehmry Bay.

There are probably plenty of threads about your server on this forum, there you can go on and on and on about how all other servers suck and the one you are on is the best thing since sliced bread.

Anatolian Turk.4057:

Humpink.2306:

Anatolian Turk.4057:

what else to sat. score update

How many Badges of Honor do you currently own?

around 2.3k, why do you want to know?

Because in my experience those who gloat the most are usually the ones who put in the least effort.

In your case though you were able to farm a bunch of badges unopposed and you still take no small amount of pride in that you were able to take over the whole map during a cunning and decisive PvDoor battle.

Respect!

Posting in this thread to be able to subscribe (does that even work) to bump it once Kaineng hits the T4 brick wall.

I posted it somewhere else, but the opener on the 25th will be the most important opener ever for Kaineng. If the other two servers manage to deny Kaineng and opening success then all the bandwagoneers on the server will quickly transfer off before the free transfer close on the 28th.

Anatolian Turk.4057:

what else to sat. score update

How many Badges of Honor do you currently own?

Mif.3471:

Humpink.2306:

HIRE was on the server for a month

Did HIRE recruit as much of your servers WvW playerbase as possible before transferring after a month?

Because they did exactly that to IoJ before they transferred to Ehmry Bay, and now I’m wondering if that was their plan for Ehmry Bay too.

I am not oceanic myself but I was usually online while HIRE was active. Compared to other guilds I would describe HIRE’s recruitment effort as low to moderate at best. Certainly not any kind of aggressive recruiting we have seen from KISS when they were on Ehmry Bay for a whole 4 days before making a decision to move off again (was an issue with their EU players and latency).

I know some HIRE folks made good friends with our PvE crowd, so much so that they actually joined a PvE guild and are going to guest on Ehmry for PvE.

I don’t know for sure, but I doubt HIRE picked up many, if any, players on Ehmry. Like I said in the post above, they too left on good terms.

Gorefiend.9675:

For example, if you need it, of the guilds you listed as having transferred off, two thirds of them transferred to Ehmry after our rise through the ranks.

This is really a point that deserves emphasis. Ehmry Bay got to T4 with a set of core WvW players most all of whom are still there to this day. There’s no need for us to lie because we have nothing to hide.

Ehmry Bay original guilds SM and TTD transferred off shortly after we hit the T4 brick wall. Their combined player strength was approximately 25-30 players total during peak time.

HIRE, BP, RP, and ToFu transferred to Ehmry Bay either shortly before we hit T4 or while we were guaranteed to be there the following week anyway. Those guilds subsequently left Ehmry Bay again when it was clear that we are not the hardcore WvW server they were looking for and any effort to turn EB into such hardcore T1-3 server was unlikely to succeed.

So we suffered a net loss of about 25-30 active WvWers as a result of the brick wall and the changes in free server transfers. That was certainly a loss that was felt, but it didn’t and won’t send Ehmry Bay into a free-fall down to T8 because we still have the overwhelming majority of the original guilds and their players still log on even though we are getting our kitten handed to us in the current match.

In fact, I made a post in the leadership area of the Ehmry Bay server forum asking whether it wouldn’t be better to just not WvW this week vs Kaineng since we are getting so completely steamrolled. I proposed that it may be better to let the WvWers rest, make some money in PvE, and then be back next week for a more even matchup.

That suggestion was summarily dismissed by all involved and both Kaineng and DR can attest that Ehmry Bay players are showing up and putting up a fight.

It’s human nature that some on the forums think the sky is falling for Ehmry Bay. Meanwhile, back in reality, the server is still there and people still participate in WvW.

I didn’t make the OP to beg for other guild/players to join us. I made it to point out that while many other servers use the “we have a community” line just as something they say, we do actually have one, and we do welcome folks to it with open arms.

I should also mention that none of the guilds that transferred off left on bad terms. Sure, there were some hurt feelings among individuals who felt that those who transferred off abandoned us, but the overwhelming majority of players wished those who departed well and left the door open should they ever want to come back.

We believe that players should play where they find the most entertainment value for the time and money they put into the game. We would be overjoyed if that is on Ehmry Bay, but if not then we hope that they can find what they are looking for elsewhere because after all we have a shared affinity that is GW2 and there’s no need to make someone feel bad just because they want something other than what Ehmry Bay can offer out of the game.

Hexin.5603:

Sunspots.9861:

One does not simply walk into Tier 2…

I do not know what strength is in my blood, but I swear to you I will not let the Kaineng fall, nor our people fail.

Eh …, one of the T4 servers is going to say to you: You shall not pass!

Once you start getting some actual resistance on the 25th your fair-weather players will shed quickly after the opener before free transfers close in the 28th.

All it takes is for the two other servers to spank you during the opener and the “winner” types will quickly decide to transfer to a T1-3 server.

What do you get for being in Tier 2?

I don’t think T4 qualifies as small group action. Sure, small groups can find something to do in any tier, but as a sweeping generalization lower tiers have more small group stuff happening.

Having said that, have a look at what I wrote about Ehmry Bay at Ehmry Bay: a tale about T4 and true community

I have read many posts on here from folks who ask guilds and players to transfer to their server because they need oceanic guilds, or NA guilds, or anything in between. Those posts usually start with “we have such a great and tight knit community” or some variation of that statement.

Ehmry Bay was down at T7, and worked its way up to T4 even though we didn’t have the numbers for it. The ascension of our server was as much about the dedication of the WvW guilds we have/had as it was about the ineptitude of some of our opponents.

Ehmry Bay never had an actual oceanic WvW presence, HIRE was on the server for a month and that did help once we were in T4, but they arrived after we had already made it to T4 with very little else but a strong US (West Coast) group and the help of a small oceanic contingent from TDE that would do WvW on a schedule.

T4 ended up being a brick wall that simply could not be broken down without better time zone coverage and greater numbers around the clock. The result was that people burned out, drama flared up, and with the news that free transfers are about to come to an end some guilds left because we were simply not pro enough.

It’s true. While we have many excellent WvWers, most people on Ehmry Bay do not treat the game as a job but rather as entertainment. The true hardcore players that would put in 16 hour days have left. What we have remaining though is the community so many other servers tell you about, the difference being that we can actually back that claim up.

Ehmry Bay doesn’t have mega-guilds with 500 active players. We do have some guilds which routinely bring 20-ish players to the map, we have many more guilds who bring a group or two, and we have the same crowd of pugs that every other server has.
We also have infrastructure with a public voice comms server for WvW/PvP/PvE, where guilds can request their own private channel with admin rights for that channel, so you don’t need to run (and pay for) your own voice comms setup.

We have the most active server forum community among all GW2 server forums. On those forums we don’t turn every word into “kitten” and we don’t censor/delete inconvenient post just because it may make our server look bad to potential transfers. On the Ehmry Bay server forum what you see is what you get.

Here’s a post one of our members recently made:

“People seem to forget what community / family really means. People who you fight with constantly, but happily team up with and defend from people outside the family.

Sometimes a little drama goes a long way to making something stronger. You have people from guilds who have “drama” with each other teaming up right now on this thread.

Ehmry is great. We’re dysfunctionally right on point.”

We have many small guilds who have carved out a WvW niche for themselves without that they need to roll with a zerg (which we rarely have enough people for anyway). Here’s what a commander from RE (on Kaineng, which is currently steamrolling us) had to say about one such small guild:

“I for one am impressed with some of the guild tags I have seen, PUNK being one of them, even though we succeed in fighting a nice cohesive turtle, it is still nice to see that type of organization in this match up. I personally didnt know how to react to it at first …”

So to sum this up;
If you are someone who doesn’t mind waking up to a map that often has been taken over by nightcapping.
If you are someone who just wants to log in after work, maybe do some breakouts, set up some siege, get a few badges and die a few times.
If you are someone who is in a small or medium sized guild and you are tired of some mega-guild constantly telling you how you should play your game.
If you don’t care about tiers, and if you don’t care that the guy next to you may not be a pro GW2 player.

If you instead care for a mellow place to play GW2, where WvW players are truly making an effort to improve communication and coordination between them without to step on anyone’s toes and where we have a strong and active forum community that goes along with it, then I invite you to check Ehmry Bay out.

CHIPS.6018:

I am not even from this tier, but I find it sad that many of you decided to trash talk Kaineng instead of self improvement. Number is not everything in wvw.

Wait …, aren’t you the guy who made a huge whining post about how every guild and player has abandoned your server? Numbers aren’t everything man, use your skill to dominate in WvW regardless of those departures!!!

ShadowSoljer.6524:

wait till next week when you can play another server that matches your skill level, because ours is far superior to yours, or so I’ve been told by you guys.

If that is what you got out of this thread so far then either your reading comprehension is failing you or it’s just a really bad troll attempt.

What’s happening in this match is primarily a glaring display of ArenaNet’s utter failure to design a decent and scaling WvW game mechanics environment. When you have more numbers than everyone else then you should win, no doubt about that, though that’s of course nothing to brag about and has zero to do with skill.

Still, a server with number like Kaineng should never ever end up in a match with a server like Ehmry Bay because the participation and coverage levels are orders of magnitude different. Since you referenced adults in your post, let me be the first to state that any reasonable adult would understand that.

You can gloat in this thread all you want, soon enough you’ll be on the receiving end of the gloating by those who are far superior to you in numbers and skill. In fact, your Dear Leader is so worried about this that he made the “War Machine is looking for an Alliance” post asking more grunts to join Kaineng in hopes of providing enough coverage to even be competitive in T1-3.

I’ll see you when you are back on your way down to T7/8. But don’t worry, I won’t waste my time camping your spawn then.

Loki.4139:

Can anyone post an updated score?

Thank you

It is completely pointless to ask for score updates in this match. Kaineng is going to win by a large margin.

Ehmry Bay Valued Player award voting is now in progress!

As someone who has actually laid the foundation for a forum community I can tell you that you should really decide which online presence is your community, because it sure looks like there’s http://crystal-desert.com as well.

Ehmry Bay has been in matches where we dominated the entire map and while that’s great for map completion it does suck for everything else.

The real party to blame here is ArenaNet for creating stupid game mechanics that result in such matches. The breakout events are nothing but a bandaid on a severed artery.

Paid transfers won’t fix anything. Working adults will just pay the money, $20 is an inconsequential amount to someone who has a decent job, and kids with nothing but time on their hand have the gold to just buy the gems to transfer. All paid transfers will do is put money into Anet’s pocket, but it won’t stop server migrations.

So when Kaineng hits the wall in T3 (or maybe even T4 already), where 24/7 coverage matters, and winning will no longer be easy, people will leave the server just like before and just like happens with basically any other server out there.

Lanthrudar.1437:

Best of luck, but again, ANet is not to blame for the actions of their player base.

What Anet is to blame for is creating such a flawed game mechanic in WvW that only constant server transfers make playing the game acceptable to a large part of the player base.

Draygo.9473:

Population has no real effect on the price of a given good in a videogame. (except in instances of extremely rare supply)

More people means more production of that good, more people means more demand.

Botters aside, people get mat drops from actually participating in the content. Lower participation → lower production.

Even with low player numbers the demand for high end mats remains high because the remaining die hard GW2 players are going for legendaries which require those mats.

Vorch.2985:

Guesting does allow any player to join any server in their region. This helps with server populations, but also means that those said players are not on their own server.

How is guesting helping with server populations?
All it does is increase the population of high population servers and lower the population of low population servers.

ArenaNet create a server vs. server game where server loyalty is not rewarded by game mechanics. Instead game mechanics exist to encourage players to just hang their flag into the wind and completely disregard server loyalty.

WvW isn’t going to get any better because a sense of community isn’t fostered by ArenaNet’s implementation of server vs server competition.

CHIPS.6018:

My guildmates are discussing if we should go into mercenaries and piracy because wvw doesn’t’ pay us enough.

Piracy in GW2 died the moment they removed the orbs. Holding the orb hostage at in Davy Jones’ locker next to a quaggan node was the ultimate pirate feat!

Now pirates are relegated to sync-dancing on the Idler’s Ledge in Lion’s Arch.

Wait a minute! I knew the OP name sounded familiar!
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/account/Friend-logged-in-from-Toronto/

Other than that, not sure whether server hoppers have credibility.

applekwisp.2139:

you cant wvw on your guested server

That’s exactly my point, I will be in WvW on my home server and PvE on the guested server.

If I go to a Tier 7/8 server I can karma train and badge farm all day in WvW and I can still hang in PvE on a server where the relevant temples are always open, and where I can get a dungeon group in LA as soon as I post something in map chat.

None of this is affected by whether my selected destination server is full.

This basically results in a further desertion of the low population servers, may as well just servermerge them now while everyone is busy kittening about the transfermania.

Fewer people play the game, fewer materials enter the market, prices rise.
3 million copies of GW2 sold is totally meaningless if not many people continue to log in on a daily basis.

Let’s say I am on a server where I am just not happy with the PvE participation because for practical purposes I am the only player on that server (you know which servers I mean!)

What’s to prevent me from just permanently guest on a high population server while I laugh all the way to the bank soloing all the WvW maps and grabbing all the WvW badges on all my alts completely unopposed?

CHIPS.6018:

The thing is I understand perfectly well why people are leaving. Hardcore wvwers like them and me wants to play alongside the best and fight against the best. Being in T4 or T5 isn’t enough to fill that thirst.

Uhm … Tier 1 isn’t the best, it’s the most. Most players online most consistently. That’s the basis of the tier scoring.

The 500-1800 range seems to have been removed from the wiki, but not before this guy took a screenshot of it:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/account/Server-Transfer-Concerns-merged/950325

nekos.2584:

From what i understand it will cost $5 – $7 to transfer servers. $28 at most per month for these guilds to continue transferring servers each week.

The wiki article, before deletion, said 500-1800 gems per transfer depending on destination population. Transferring to a “winning” server is going to cost you upwards of $22 or 40 gold per transfer.

At those prices large guilds won’t be moving back and forth anymore because the majority of their members will be unwilling to pay ~$20-$80 a month just to screw around. Those people will just quit GW2 altogether.

500-1800 gems depending on destination, too lazy to find the link.

I think there is probably someone from nearly all server, other than the “flavor of the month” popular transfer destinations, who has a similar story to the one of the OP.

However, at the end of the day none of it really matters. It doesn’t matter if guilds transfer off your server or move onto it. You as individual player have no control over that. The only think you have 100% control over is your own attitude.

Do you still have fun logging in? Yes? That’s awesome, you will find things to enjoy, even if outmanned in the WvW maps. No? Then walk away from GW2 because the WvW mechanics are what they are. Sheer numbers will always win, and full time zone coverage will always come out ahead. That is the reality of GW2 WvW.

SBI has a strong forum community at http://stormbluffisle.com/ where you can make new friends and enjoy the game regardless of what Tier your server is in.

BTW, tiers are completely meaningless, there is no reward for being in an upper tier.

Let’s just start by saying that while SM and TTD did move out they weren’t large guilds.

Blood Pact didn’t leave Ehmry. There also aren’t a bunch of others, which explains why you can’t recall them.

RP did move off of Ehmry to go on “vacation”, though it’s unclear whether they will be back.

HIRE, which arrived mid December, is just now in the process of leaving. They are the only ones which could potentially qualify as big since there were at times a couple dozen of them in WvW.

Participation (PvE and WvW) is down across all servers, mainly due to WvW having become the same old same old without any meaningful rewards. If you check other server forums you’ll find threads about that all over.

As a community Ehmry Bay is strong and once the free server transfers stop things are going to stabilize. People will continue to log in, and the sky isn’t falling after all.

notebene.3190:

Figured I’d ask here in case there were any big WvW mass exodus of guilds.

The place to get first hand into about this would be the server forum at ehmry.com where you are much more likely to get an answer that isn’t full of other server’s players trolling your thread, unless of course you did actually intend to create drama by posting here.

Every server had guilds come and go, that’s the nature of free server transfers.

Once transfers cost money guilds will no longer en mass transfer servers in search of greener grass. Instead players who aren’t happy with their current server will just quit GW2 and go play a different game instead.

Now that free transfers are about to stop many players and guilds are looking around to decide whether their current server is where they want to stay, or whether they make a last minute dash for another server.

The WvW is different in different tiers and not every tier fits every players play-style and what a player wants out of WvW. You’ll have to figure that one out for yourself.

What I would like to point out is that many servers have server forum communities set up where players can socialize with other players on their server, schedule events, have private subforums for their guilds, and not be subject to the often widely varying application of the infraction system on the official forums.

Most players can agree that what matters most is the players you play the game with, the people you see/hear every night, and with whom you can laugh even if you just wiped. It’s the people with whom you share an affinity for the game that make you come back to the game time and again.

So before you transfer servers, you may want to take into consideration whether your destination server has an active forum community. There is an almost complete list of server forum sites on GW2Guru at:

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/news/966-community-server-websites/

You will also find that server forum activity doesn’t correlate with WvW success if you define that success by being Tier 1, or as close to it as possible. Forums do obviously attract PvE players as well.

Still, if community matters to you then it is worth to look for servers who have managed to organize their population into a server community. There are good communities at all tiers which should make it easy for you to find a place where you want to be.

With free server transfers coming to a close I submit Ehmry Bay for your consideration. Many other server also have growing server forum communities, but it is with no small amount of pride that I am able to say that Ehmry Bay has the most active one of them all.

The only thing that was missing from the OP is the “we don’t care about winning line” Maguuma players constantly post on the Ehmry Bay forums. Other than that, well written, would read again.

saiyr.3071:

Actually, since guesting comes at the beginning of the week, it falls to Ehmry to do all of that in T5. If they get enough points to skip into T4 next week, well, I don’t think much demoralization will happen.

That’s what I am saying though, it’s comparatively easy to get into T4, it’s a lot harder to stay there and/or advance into T3.

Demoralization doesn’t happen in T5, it happens in T4.