Guild Wars 2

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Konig Des Todes.2086:

The betrayal was wiping out the seer race. Which the tablets make no mention of. The fleeing the world came after the betrayal.

If it was merely a case of “the victors write the history” case, then the tablets would be talking about righteous retribution against those who would steal their magic and cower with it all. It wouldn’t say the seers wiped themselves out.

The betrayal was not agreeing to give their magic to the seers to be sealed in the bloodstone, and then fleeing. They fought the seers after they came back.

I see nothing overtly wrong with the tablets. Remember, they’re written in the perspective of the mursaat so we aren’t supposed to take it as gospel. From my understanding, the 5 ancient races handled the elder dragon rise differently. The jotun/dwarves hid. The seers tried to store magic and the mursaat/forgotten allied with each other. The mursaat and forgotten attacked Zhaitan but failed. Some time after that the seers must have approached the other races and proposed they all store their magic in the bloodstone. The mursaat didn’t want to so abandoned the other races and slipped out of phase with Tyria (the betrayal). Sometime before or after that, the forgotten had freed Glint and she sheltered the four remaining races from the dragons until they went back to sleep.

The part where it says “The Seers set about sharing their stored magic with the world, though society had devolved into divided, violent tribes. Wars broke out over control of the magic pool” doesn’t say at all that these wars were between Seers. It may even be talking about the wars that lead King Doric to go to Arah to get the gods to reseal the magic in the bloodstones.

Why the hell were we able to SEE Lazarus?

None of our characters or NPCs have ascended.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

1. Most important thing to keep in mind is that the risen didn’t just drop dead after Zhaitan’s defeat. They continued to wander Orr and elsewhere, remaining as active as ever before. So Zhaitan’s defeat wouldn’t mean Elona’s northern border suddenly freed up – it just meant that the risen there would no longer get reinforcements.

What actual evidence do you have for this?

When was it founded? I’m assuming after the events of EotN since they were studying elder dragons and allied with the exalted.

But then there’s this surface data entry that sounds like it’s from before the asura came to the surface.

Overall I liked the story and looking forward to the next living world season!

I liked Rata Novus but it was a complete waste and super anti climatic to just find out that dragons have a “weakness”. Couldn’t we have learned about the dream thing there? Would have meant a lot more.

Exalted were made specifically to combat the dragons right? Where were they? They just stayed in their city and that’s it.

Where the hell is E?

The egg was made out to be some super important thing but once we gave it to the exalted it became a distant memory. Why did we just hand it over to the exalted anyway? We don’t even know them and we suddenly trust them with the egg? And what about the dozen or so other eggs and baby dragon we know are out there as well? What’s so special about that one egg? Hope these questions get answered in the living world.

Have you guys forgotten about the Altar of Glaust? I hope not.

Nebroxah.5387:

Ok, here we go. The new Revenant looks, well, amazing. I mean, dual-wielding swords with jade daggers that stab people as a healing spell awesome. This class seems totally prepared to dominate.

In fact… I hate to say it, but it might be too awesome.

I remember not too long ago, when I was playing Guild Wars 1. I ran a Warrior. Beefcake, sword and board at the ready, loaded up on Strength and ready to Hundred Blades any opponent into oblivion. But then came Nightfall. Then, came the Dervish.

Since that day, in Guild Wars 1, there has been no reason whatsoever to play a Warrior.
Damage? Dervish.
Tanking? Dervish.
Single-Target? Dervish.
Multi-Target? Especially Dervish.
More energy? Oh yeah, Dervish.
PVE kings? Dervish again.
PVP usability? What? Oh, Dervish.
Knock knock, who’s there? Dervish.
The only disadvantage to playing those sun-baked special snowflakes was having to fight in a dress.

The Warrior class lost not just its identity, but its usefulness. It’s not that there was a player preference to pick a Derv, it’s that there were clear gameplay advantages to picking a Derv without balancing factors. Ok, so their armor score wasn’t as high, but come on, you built the game with a meta that specifically drove away from tanking anyway, and decided to go for dps race / heals as the only factor.

So now, it’s 2015. I’m playing a Warrior. Again. In a meta without tanking. Again. And dang does this Revenant guy look awesome. I just hope he’s not too awesome.

How much GW1 did you really play? Because warriors got into parties for elite zones and dungeons. Dervs didn’t. Hardly an invalidation.

TheBlackLeech.9360:

Mada.5319:

TheBlackLeech.9360:

Mada.5319:

Uhhh Riven Earth is already in the game. The bottom half of Metrica Province is Riven Earth.

The area between Rata Sum and The Grove is called Alcazia Tangle.

The bottom slice of Metrica Province could be the top of Guild Wars’s Riven Earth…. but all of Riven Earth is certainly not the bottom half of Metrica.

It almost certainly extends east from the New Rata Sum

Those two red circles aren’t the same thing.
Here is the gw2 map and gw1 map overlaid over each other: http://thatshaman.blogspot.co.nz/p/historical-guide.html

Notice the river running diagonally from top left to bottom right?

That map is anomalous at best. …and all It does it prove that the maps don’t match up exactly unless altered and stretched or details are ignored.

Alcazia would be the bottom most part of the area we would potentially get as an explorable zone…. and it would be more than half under water.

There’s also no reason why both those zones gw1 zones couldn’t comprise one gw2 map like Kessex peak + Tears of the Fallen etc. = Kessex Hills

If that makes you feel better, sure.

TheBlackLeech.9360:

Mada.5319:

Uhhh Riven Earth is already in the game. The bottom half of Metrica Province is Riven Earth.

The area between Rata Sum and The Grove is called Alcazia Tangle.

The bottom slice of Metrica Province could be the top of Guild Wars’s Riven Earth…. but all of Riven Earth is certainly not the bottom half of Metrica.

It almost certainly extends east from the New Rata Sum

Those two red circles aren’t the same thing.
Here is the gw2 map and gw1 map overlaid over each other: http://thatshaman.blogspot.co.nz/p/historical-guide.html

Notice the river running diagonally from top left to bottom right?

Uhhh Riven Earth is already in the game. The bottom half of Metrica Province is Riven Earth.

The area between Rata Sum and The Grove is called Alcazia Tangle.

I’m still confused. Can you explain these:

If the Enchanted are just servants/constructs of the forgotten, how can they be exalted?

In the 1st HoT trailer we see that these ruins aren’t actually golden/gilded, the exalted thing casted some spell and turned it gold.

The Hall of Ascension/Hall of Heroes isn’t just golden/gilded. There was a lot of blue and grey as well as green.

The Enchanted don’t levitate or glow.

Enchanted weren’t spellcasters.

Tendril things coming out the back.

Is there an ingame source that says the Enchanted mimicked the mursaat? I haven’t been able to find any. All I’ve found is a wiki page that says there’s a resemblance without citing a source (other than mursaat and enchanted having no relation) so it’s just the editor’s opinion. Then there’s the note about the Tower Golem.
But other than the horn feature they share on their helms (and even those aren’t the same), all three look nothing alike.

“we have some really cool plans for the Mursaat but unfortunately I was told to tell you guys that you’ll have to wait until GW2 to find them” – Linsey Murdock, October 2007
source: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_talk:Linsey_Murdock/Lore1#Asura_and_Mursaat

The official HoT trailer showed three Exalted Ones with obvious colour variation. So surely the gold glow of the Rock Dog should be completely unrelated? Not to mention Rock Dogs have no relation to enchanted/forgotten/mursaat/golden cities.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

These ‘Exalted Ones’ are just GW2’s version of Enchanted armor that never got a proper name. That’s my theory, at least.

What on earth makes you think that they are Enchanted? O.o

We don’t know anything about HoT yet. Comparisons can’t really be made until after it releases.

Don’t forget that those 41 “new” armor sets from EotN were all just re-skins of older armor.

Only thing we can compare is the price. EotN was $40 and came with a bunch of bonuses (but no new character slot) while HoT is $50 with no bonuses.

So HoT better be bigger than EotN.

Regina Buenaobra.6193:

To clarify: $50 is the price of the expansion. We included the core game as a free bonus to make it easier for new players to get into it.

One of the first things they teach us in economics is that there’s no such thing as a free lunch.
If a restaurant offers lunch for free, then more than likely they’ve raised the price of their drinks.

So even though Anet is offering the core game for free, it is more than likely that the price of the expansion was raised as a result.

Nice try.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

When Wynthyst died, Anet added a gravestone for her under the name Thyst in Ebonhawke.

Had no idea she passed on. She did so much for the wikis. RIP Wyn =(

xinkspillx.3914:

You should actually read my entire post. I addressed all of that. Yes, player characters could make use of secondary professions and NPCs could as well, but in the lore typically what counted was only any NPCs primary profession and Thackeray straight up changed his, something I think nearly no one else could do.

I’m also not suggesting a name change to Paragon as I agree it would make no sense now. My point was just that ANet COULD have made the Elite spec Paragon in a way that made sense.

You are trying to say that just because one GW1 NPC changed his profession from one associated with bows to one associated with spears somehow means that a GW2 profession unrelated to spears changing to one with a bow can be called a Paragon.

Do you see how your argument falls a part here? If anything, your argument supports the Guardian’s elite spec being called something related to rangers, which is exactly what Anet did anyway.

Also, in what way was the Paragon important to the development of guardians? Many of the guardian’s skills are old gw1 monk and warrior skills. Stand Your Ground is the only old paragon skill.

Paragon makes no sense. The guardian elite spec doesn’t have chants, echos or use spears. Paragons are also from Elona.

xinkspillx.3914:

TL;DR: An important NPC Paragon DID use a longbow in GW1.

Irrelevant. All professions in GW1 could use all weapons.

Pyriel.4370:

Mada.5319:

Pyriel.4370:

Who says that they are copying player theories? Wouldn’t it be reasonable to think that the Devs left clues in the world to let players figure the story out for themselves?

There were no clues. All previous speculation were baseless….. until now.

cough Scarlet.

aaaaaannnnddddd https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWtFf7UbtAQ

Not baseless.

I suggest reading through the lore forum instead of watching youtube videos by a guy who’s gotten it wrong more times than right.

Pyriel.4370:

Who says that they are copying player theories? Wouldn’t it be reasonable to think that the Devs left clues in the world to let players figure the story out for themselves?

There were no clues. All previous speculation were baseless….. until now.

Farzo.8410:

Bolbo Baggins.8594:

Unloveableone.6082:

Mursaat are in this video.
I am so certain that is a Mursaat.

It has more resemblance with a Seer

From the guildwars 1 wiki.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Ancient_Seer.jpg

Seers got 4 arms.

The creatures in the video also had black-like tendrils coming from the back, just like the Mursaat.

My thoughts exactly.

I think anet did this mostly because it’ll make for a good story with the intra- and inter-race tensions that will surely be rising. I’m sure they’ll come up with an explanation to make sense of all of this.

Please don’t get your hopes up.

Every dragon having their own expansion will get boring and repetitive really quickly. It’s not like we don’t already know how to kill them….

+1

adding another cliff hanger over a pre-existing cliff hanger is just bad story telling.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

If Caithe isn’t immediately executed for this series of crimes upon capture then I probably will not continue playing this story.

yea right

You’ve played your own character for over 2 years. 2 hours at most of playing an overpowered thief isn’t going to kill you.

If there wasn’t an expansion in the works, Ree and Jeff would be the ones writing the living world stuff.

Shriketalon.1937:

stuff about Braham

So what if he doesn’t have his own motives? So what if he’s just there to support?
Why do people always need to have their own agency to be a part of the story?
He had his story, back in flame & frost, and he’s now made some friends. Friends help each other right? Does he need a reason to help his friends beyond the fact that they are his friends?

lordkrall.7241:

One thing to keep in mind when it comes to realism and such: The game world does not necessarily move as fast as the real world.

We actually know for a fact that the attack on Lion’s Arch was more or less over and won within a day or two, and yet in real world time the attack took place for weeks.
It is also rather unlikely that the time between the Breachmaker and the current events are several months, but rather a few weeks at most.

No. They changed the calendar to be in line with the real world so it was indeed two weeks for the attack/retake of LA. Anet shot themselves in the foot with the calendar changes, let them live with the consequences.

If Caithe was working for Modremoth explain why she:
1)Helps us and kills modrem along the way
2)Didn’t attack us
3)Took the egg away from the modrem

Ahh Rise of the Destroyers does indeed have some of the combat music hidden within it. Thanks!

And those extracted onse… I’ve been trying to find the second one for MONTHS. Used to hear it heaps while playing Hero Battles. Thanks for that

While in combat whether in pve or wvw, some music plays. Some of them are pieces that are in the gw2 official soundtrack (ost) but I’ve noticed that quite a significant number of them are not.

The ones that are not in the gw2 ost are combat music from the original guild wars, specifically from Eye of the North. Problem is I’ve been unable to find those pieces and they aren’t part of the Eye of the North soundtrack either.

Does anyone know where I can find and listen to them? Or their names? I’ve tried youtube, grooveshark and sound cloud and they’ve all come up with nothing.

If you break out of the Silverwastes map you can see a large underground zone that’s probably gonna be a part of a future release. Might be where the White Mantle went “underground” to.

We already have mounts. It’s called the magic carpet and witches broomstick.

Now please let this unnecessary idea die.

Horrible.3470:

The only feedback I have is pretty plain – please stop trying to connect so many things to GW1.

Players new to the series with GW2 won’t know the difference between ‘new’ history and the revision of ‘old’ history, and players who put a lot of time into GW1 don’t always see these historical retcons as a good thing.

The story is very hard to enjoy when every time you stop to read something, you run into something that contradicts previously established lore.

Tying things with gw1 is why this patch has been so well received. Both games took place in the same universe, ignoring gw1 would not only betray anet’s most loyal customers but also make no sense whatsoever lore-wise. If you didn’t play gw1, there are so many resources out there for you to catch up (besides buying the game and playing it yourself).

However, yes it is extremely important that anet doesn’t botch up the lore. I think they now know how important the lore is to their players, after the fiasco over the calendar change.

Also if you use an aoe skill with a lot of particle effects (time warp, feedback, swirling winds) in the area in front of Abbadon, you see one of the teleporters from the Crystal Desert. http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Teleporter
You can sometimes see it just as you zone in as well.

Lots of Crystal Desert references in this patch!

No more ritualists

Scott McGough: The alternate magical energy employed by ritualists has fallen out of general usage, as illustrated by the absence of ritualists in Guild Wars 2. The techniques ritualists used for casting spells are still valid, but in the 250 years since Guild Wars, Tyria has learned and mastered more efficient ways of casting spells. It’s analogous to telegraph technology—it still functions and it still does the job of communicating across long distances, but in modern times there are newer, better ways to communicate so the old ways are effectively defunct.

source: http://www.guildwars2roleplayers.com/forum/page/1/m/2737230/viewthread/9902543-2rps-lore-interview-arenanet

Mitch.4781:

It seems such a shame to put in all this design, art and effort and have it limited to one segment of living story?

Glint’s Lair in gw1 was also only limited to one segment of the story. The effort was necessary to advance the story.

Hey, don’t forget to look at Elite Areas from GW1!
Underworld, Fissure of Woe, Domain of Anguish, Urgoz Warren and the Deep were essentially raid-like content. Would be awesome to see elite areas like those in GW2!

Tengu has been the most likely candidate to be a new race since launch. They were never classified as a “lesser race” unlike the skritt, quaggan etc and they even have a homeland.

One of the reasons why Isle of the Dead was my favourite guild hall in GW1 was because of the Crystal Oasis track that played there. The nostalgia was real today. Thanks anet!

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

phabby.8945:

Gw1 system was so much better then the current crap RNG based one , at least you knew where to farm if you wanted something,

Really? Because I should point out I have tried many . . . many times to earn skins I wanted in GW1 and still remain without them unless I choose to drop some ectos (not plat, ectos).

Not counting Tormented, mind you. I’ve never gotten myself any of the following:

Froggy Scepter
Icy Dragon Sword
Vampiric Dragon Sword
Celestial Weapons
Amythest Aegis
Draconic Aegis
Mursaat Hornbow (the drop)

I also never got a Fiery Gladius OR Fiery Dragon Sword of good quality so Koss could swing one around.

You misunderstood his post. He is saying that in gw1 you knew where to farm for something if you wanted it. The RNG still existed just like in gw2 today.

The ability to buy/sell the items is what made the gw1 system better imo.

WTB Isle of the Dead and Isle of Solitude

FA is now a “High” server costing only 1400 gems to transfer!

So instead of developing things the players have been asking for since release (precursor crafting, real endgame content, WvW changes etc), they make this abomination that will only drive more people away?

Do they think people are really so stupid that they can’t comprehend multiple things at once? Or that people are so brainless they don’t know that they got the wiki, this forum, map chat and their contacts through which to learn this game?

Mental Paradox.3845:

The stone tablet behind the Queen is Althea’s actor stage, turned on its side. You may have noticed it’s missing from Ascalon.

Althea’s actor stage wasn’t white or gold from what I remember of it.

If you’re an ocx/sea guild and you’re looking for an endless source of loot bags, FA is the place to be. The SoS karma train is mighty delicious.

Nerfing celestial amulet will see eles removed from play again.
Nerfing battle sigil is going to hit other classes far harder than it will hit the ele.
The individual ele skills are not the root of this perceived problem.
Only thing I agree with is being able to spam Lightning Whip when stowed to proc signet of restoration heals. That needs fixing.

I think waiting until after the feature pack and seeing how the meta shifts is the best course of action.

Angel McCoy.1832:

Tell me this. Why, in your opinion, are folks so enamored with the Mursaat?

Of all the antagonists anet has ever created, they were by far the best.
Great lore. Amazing design and combat mechanics. A lot of mystery surrounding them.

And let’s not forget the Mursaat Rally

As well as:
Lazarus the Dire: “Accursed human! You have done this to me! I will not forget this!”
Lazarus the Dire: “Countless generations will suffer for your actions this day!”

So we must get something more!

Johnny Boi.4980:

Spoilers for The Dragons Reach Pt. 2 below!

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I think I should bring back this thread in regards to what happened at the Summit meeting instance.

At the beginning, you see and can talk to Caithe after her very long & quiet absence.

After the meeting gets sabotaged by Mordremoth… She is absolutely nowhere to be seen. Which is odd considering she is probably one of the most loyal sylvari to her mother (as far as we know).

Later when you talk to Trahearne, he suggests the possibility that someone may have ‘lured’ the dragon to the meeting, because it was just so well timed. Could this have been her secret..? Or a small part of what’s to come?

Thoughts?

She was nowhere to be seen because you killed the Modrem she was attacking first, so she left. If you left her Modrem alive and dealt with the ones attacking the other npcs, she would have been there till the very end.