Guild Wars 2

Calcifire.1864:

Aury.1367:

- There is not a single “chilled” effect on shortbow, missing synergy with other condi traits

looks at Icerazor’s Ire

hmm, the guy is a caster who is called Icerazor, and he clearly shoots bolts of ice at the enemy

yet he cripples and causes vulnerability, the two most useless conditions due to their ineffectiveness and the fact that vuln is one of the most common conditions to just passively apply.

No sign of chill on the ice themed guy who specialises in debilitation :/

I saw this too, even the icon looks like its chill themed.

I fully agree with this.

Just tested it out, and holy crap that bar drops fast, unreasonably so.

Jumpin Lumpix.6108:

azizul.8469:

the last backpiece need rank 350 ? oh.. ok.. there you go….

still don’t understand why you care if the reward is easier to get, you love the game mode remember? I want the reward, in a realistic time frame, why is that asking too much? not to mention you get way more wvw rank from PvD instead of zerg vs zerg, havoc or roaming, why is this playstyle rewarded with rank more then others? Why is this justification for dedication to the game mode above all others?

Because i do not have the time to grind 2000 rank.

Plus if it did require 2000 rank..why would it require hell of alot more effort than fractal or pvp backpiece? seems kinda unfair to the local wvw’er

azizul.8469:

i don’t think there is minimum rank to craft the legendary back piece. you just need a lot of those claim tickets….

People keep claiming you need rank 350 and even rank 2000.

I am getting various numbers and no idea which to believe; also source would be useful, thanks.

Ryou.2398:

Blue.1207:

New condi ele build topping 50k dps. Condi Rev will NEVER be taken at this point.

A condi rev can offer more then just dps.

True, however other classes do too and do it better as well.

Whats the point that it gets 30k? Every other condi spec beats rev. Everything beats rev at this point.

Blue.1207:

New condi ele build topping 50k dps. Condi Rev will NEVER be taken at this point.

Hes right you know.

Blockhead Magee.3092:

Azoqu.8917:

About the only class right now that can/should go power is Guardian. Only because they have no condi spec to speak of.

Power warrior is still a thing.

Though, it sure seems that Anet wants everyone to play condi.

Power Warrior is a dying breed, Condi PS outperforms compared to power PS.

Azoqu.8917:

About the only class right now that can/should go power is Guardian. Only because they have no condi spec to speak of.

Bet the next elite spec is condi based. Judging from the pictures of leaks..i know pictures..but they LOOK condi based. Well warrior won’t be condi, i mean they got condi with their last elite spec..eh never know.

What is happening? Ele is able to get 57k condi dmg and many other classes are already condi leaning, what is the bloody point of power builds now? Of course we are not getting another patch for another 4+ months so we are stuck in this condi cesspool. Already i see raid lfgs saying “condi only”

Amaimon.7823:

you mean the become larger tonic?
if it’s until cancel, then we can’t use it in combat because we need a cancel skill

You could just click on the tonic again to cancel the effect.

Why does it have a timer? Can’t it just be infinite unless we cancel like all the others?

That is disappointing.

Can you dye the green bits as it is a backpiece form? or is it only for the glider?

!~COMING SOON TO A PATCH NEAR YOU~!
REV BUFF!

-Increasing facet of light duration by .1 seconds!
However a heavy buff like this has to be balanced soo..
-Increasing upkeep of all glint skills by 1

Thanks and enjoy the powerful buff
-Anet.

!~COMING SOON TO A PATCH NEAR YOU~!
REV BUFF!

-Increasing facet of light duration by .1 seconds!
However a heavy buff like this has to be balanced soo..
-Increasing upkeep of all glint skills by 1

Thanks and enjoy the powerful buff
-Anet.

I agree 100% every patch that has been released so far for rev for the past few ner-i mean balancing patches have only nerfed heavily and given bread crumbs of buffs, or stuff that people did not ask for.

inb4 people who do not play rev come in here and say rev is fine/rev is op.

Thing about rev is outside of the herald what does it bring? The main problem while the class was in development it…from what i see anyways…was built around herald…you take away the herald you get a weak mess of a class.

TokyoGhost.6492:

well, seems like I won’t be coming back for several years, if ever :/

Thanks for the update!

Look up pantheon rise of the fallen, currently waiting for that to come out.

Hello sir! i will give you a tour of the revenant building, please come in. Alright on this side you see a massive pile of weights, these are nerfs, notice how much they hinder the the revenant, poor thing can hardly move! Alright moving on to our right we have..what was that? feels like we are walking in a circle? oh yeah this place has some rooms that feel out of place and seem like they have no place to be here…anyways moving on. Hm? what is it oh that? that is..oh crap ah run my friend! what? those those are bugs, yes there is a metric **** ton of them, don’t stop run!! Sadly we have to stop the tour because the bugs have have overrun the building. What? why am i placing this mask over the door? oh it’s make people want to walk into the building, yeah the mask looks fun doesn’t? but behind the mask is a overnerfed and bug ridden place indeed. Oh one last thing, see that massive creature? that’s anet better run its about to vomit more nerf weights on the building. Anyways have a good day sir!

tl;dr: Try guardian instead.

You sort of fixed Ventari, now fix the other 2 specializations.

Kayte.5378:

Colly.4073:

Mesmer get’s screwed over at every single patch so i’m not surprised this time.

hahahahahahahahaha.. hahaha .. Please..
Not trying to be offensive, but it legit made me laugh.

Also this.

As a rev main you can calm down; we never wanted this and as a whole we are still going to get melted against a condi mesmer, plus don’t expect to see many revs this upcoming season anyways since they did not address what most of us were asking for anyways.

Burtnik.5218:

Main thing that killed condi rev was BWE2 change. Mallyx was supposed to be weak to power build but hardcounter condi ones. Now hes trash vs power builds and weak vs condi ones. Makes sense right? Still waiting for condi copy to be back along with pulsing resistance on elite.

Good times, but back on topic for the thread; i am sure they are willing to give condi rev buffs, BUT i am guessing they will nerf power rev even more if they go through with this…As we seen with the trend of nerfs with rev its massive nerf and small buff.

As well as revs…just leave us alone man..we are wounded on the ground with everlasting salt poured on our wound already..

Their original purpose was to sell copies of HoT, now thats over and the majority of suckers who bought that for the class they can “balance” the class how it was “ment” to be.

Please note this is a joke.

Next legend: trahearne.
Weapon: Greatsword
Unique class mechanic: The nerfhammer, basically whenever you click this a random ability is reduced by 50%, no cooldown on this; please note that nerfhammer’s effects are permanent, so once they your staff 5 is reduced by 50% it cannot be buffed again.
Utilities-
Healing = “A new experience…” Revive all downed enemies
Utility =
1 – “Commander, to me.” Pull friendly ally towards you and stun them for 10 seconds.
2 – “This won’t end well..” Apply max condis to allies within 6000 range of you.
3- “A word?” Stuns and binds all allies within 6000 range of you for 30 seconds.
Elite = “Commander..kill me..” Kill yourself.

Good thread, but, sadly A-Net does not see the suggestions players make, only the nerfs. I remember awhile back someone complained how enchanted daggers hitting through shield or something is op, and lo and behold next patch they listened to him…while neglecting the many suggestions to reworks to class and fix the glaring bugs.

CutesySylveon.8290:

Iain Ross.6903:

Oneira.7691:

Iain Ross.6903:

Correction: Since rev is the strongest class in the game right now, we’ll bring it down a bit to still be really strong, but not too dominant*

Oh yeah, the “slightly” line: 50% and 33% nerf to the 2 main attacks of the Rev is “slightly” and “down a bit”.

It’s funny looking back at the May 2016 nerf to SOTM of 15%. People were saying that ANET did the right thing by being conservative so as not to kill class viability. Then 6 months later they come down with a radical downgrade that looks like it will threaten class viability. 50% downgrade after a 15% downgrade means about at 43-44% downgrade in damage overall. Almost half. So much for taking things slow eh?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Surge-of-the-Mists-Nerfed-YES

I will not be playing my Rev in pvp.

It’s about 10-15% nerf to rev overall, who had insanely high damage in the first place. Rev will still be meta and one of the strongest classes (I believe mes is not the strongest) and then rev) Just the shiro port alone will make it essential.

If every other class has a value of 15k and rev has a value of 20k (which is p much the case) and then rev gets nerfed 15%, let’s say 20% just to be generous. Ppl will QQ about the 20% even tho you’re still at 16k and 1k above the other classes. Look at the results instead of looking at only the changing number to have an excuse to cry.

Funny how you prowl all across the rev forums claiming rev is the godsend of classes, yet never specifically explain why, or even bother to acknowledge the glaring issues with the class, but instead just say ‘High damage, and teamfights’, completely ignoring that rev’s damage falls quicker than a stone in teamfights, and most of its viable support comes from the lazy design of boon bot Glint, which no one wants in the first place.

Shiro’s port is trash compared to other options. Lousy tracking with terrain, consumes energy if failed, requires a target in the first place, obvious animation, requiring shiro and locking you into other utilities you may not need, along with his trash heal.

Finally someone said it.

Rev is getting more nerfs to pvp and DH is getting a buff? i am correct on this right? if so….well ill join the bandwagon.

inb4 “rev is still meta”…dunno how you can say that when our most damaging abilities are basically halved.

also, for all that is holy, fix the jarring bugs that have been plaguing this class instead of prioritizing unneeded nerfs

On the off topic..i didn’t see what warrior is getting, can anyone tell me?

#RIPrev2016

Lexander.4579:

dont think that rotting corpses everywhere would appropriate for a child-rated game

First…its rated T…second…Risen are basically rotting corpses..have you seen Orr before the nerf? they were everywhere..third..i never suggested them to remain there on the ground, that will quickly clutter up and lag the server..i merely suggested bodies just dissolve into the ground, or anything for that matter, long as its not a lame vanish..

LouWolfskin.3492:

Hm… guess that’s just a bane of MMO’s then. I barely see despawn animations that go beyond the enemy sinking into the ground to imply decomposing.

Not just in this game, in quite a few to be honest.

Normally id agree. if gw2 did not have unique spawning i would of not even brought this up, but they do have unique spawns, unique dying animations, but as for despawns..it falls flat. So as i said..why not just dissolve them into the ground? simple, easy, and more importantly does not look lazy. It is a little thing, but seeing as how often we see something dying it would be noticed.

I mean some finishers in pvp have unique despawns..namely…the wurm, and shark finisher. where both eat your body.

LouWolfskin.3492:

I’m pretty sure we have varied deaths animations.

Like, kill an enemy with lightning damage and he spasm because of electricity.
Or with poison and they grab their throat because they have trouble breathing.

So… not sure what you’re talking about.

Not talking bout animations, animations are fine. I am talking about despawn of the enemies, when they hit the floor and then just disappear after a few seconds.

Guess i should of made that more clear.

Something that has bothered me for the longest time was the death of mobs, which is just a vanish, nothing fancy, just poof. They made the time to gave alot of enemies a unique spawn animation(which i am glad for), be its a skritt popping out of the ground, an icebrood appearing out of a icy mist, or even a plain risen appearing from a poof of black/green smoke.

So i am curious why not give them death despawns, i mean they bothered to give them a spawning ones? it can be something as simple as devolving into the ground. I know it might just be me but seeing them just be there one second and gone the second is just..eh.

I am curious what everyone here runs for their pvp build. The one inthe meta site is nice and all..but, eh, don’t know it seems off.

Tips on surviving would also be great…like how to counter a warrior that will not die, etc.

Hirasaki.6208:

Made it to legendary league solo queue using hammer zerker rev with only 1 condi clear. You don’t need anymore than that lol. You just need to kill them before they can apply a ton to you. You just need to avoid 1 vs 1 this specific classes

1.) Mesmer (Confusion Mesmer, Strong vs Power Rev)
2.) Engineer (Applies a ton of Condis if using pistol Very Strong vs Power Rev)
3.) Necro (Applies condition and is able to take a ton of damage but not as strong as condi engi or condi Mesmer)

Other condi builds are manageable with Invocation and …. Staff 4. You can also put purity/generosity as weapon sigils but they tend to lower ur dps which gives the condi classes more time to put more condis on you.

Really? a hammer? hmm from fighting other revs hammer it is very predictable from what i seen, but guess ill give it a shot.

Rolisteel.1375:

I’d like to see that condi reaper that destroy absolutely everything in solo q. Where is the video? Also what is your skill level? As if you are low/low-mid skilled i can understand you are getting destroyed as this where necromancers shine killing low skilled players that eats all damage and don’t use control effects. The higher skill level you go the lower solo necromancer value becomes. You have to hope to get good teammates with good dps pressure or bad enemies that can’t focus you down.

Hue, apply all the condis, wait a few seconds, and you got yourself a dead rev; As rev relies on other classes for condi clears and heals.

Before anyone says “Don’t get hit lol” yeah you are quite funny. Anyways how do i deal with it? i tried mallyx, but that hardly does anything.

Against condi? no they will die in seconds; against everything else? sure.

Lexander.4579:

nice that you enjoy your “little” top class in game

HAHAHA, wait you are serious? Get any condi class to fight a rev and the condi class will win most if not all the time.

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

I almost forgot the days where I could send my pets up walls in WvW to kill people on siege! Those were the days…

I did not wvw right away at launch…but this was a thing? dang pets had spiderman DNA huh?

DeceiverX.8361:

For the thief… launch. Easy.

Quickness still at 100% cast speed and not a boon, PW dealing another 20% damage, with no precast animation, no Revealed debuff, no ICD on stealth attacks, CnD dealing 20% more damage, Mug critting, Assassin’s Signet applying a 50% damage modifier, Critical Strikes trait line actually being useful, permanent 14 might and stealth from SA alone, infinite stealth on D/P alone, multiple trait lines with crazy strong adept traits, Basilisk Venom couldn’t be stunbroken and ignored stability, permanent blind/multi-pulses on Black Powder, Dagger Storm dealing way more damage, Dancing Dagger’s damage up by ~75% with an extra bounce, shortbow range at 1200, shortbow AA having more damage, shortbow AA ignoring stealth and teleports on bounces, HiS cleansed all the DoT conditions, Infiltrator’s Strike costed less initiative and didn’t have a second part – just an instant evade, and most significantly, no silly powercreep yet in the core game.

I probably missed a few more big ones since then, but those were just the major ones that came to mind.

I remember fighting thieves at launch….rage would be putting it mildly.

DirtyDan.4759:

Ele: Icebow #4. I miss you.

Oh man! i almost forgot that somehow, i remember how that just SHREDDED pve content.

While recovering from the patch nerfs i been looking back and thinking of the old overpowered days..“what was my class’s peak? before all the nerfs” This is just a for fun thread where you say what your class is and what caused your class to “peak” I will start; necros and jagged horrors before the 30 second lifespan nerf, all those bleeds.

Obindo.6802:

CutesySylveon.8290:

Never once did I say that rev isn’t strong. No one with any sense would say that it doesn’t have strong points, but to say it’s the strongest class in the game, as a random no less, is just willful ignorance.

If you leave any class that’s capable of doing something like support or dps, then yes, they can shift a fight. That axe power necro won’t do much if you pressure him, but if you ignore him, then yes, he will cause you issues and can possibly sway the fight.

Try to stop pointing to els players to drive your point home when you offer no argument to defend your point. Saying it’s the strongest class with the evidence of ‘just because I said so’ or ‘esl’ doesn’t mean a thing. Other people who play the game are capable of just as much understanding of it as any ‘pro’ player, so stand on your own, instead of kneeling to them.

And btw, just saying DH was viable doesn’t mean that it was viable.

I know it doesn’t mean that it is viable, but it is viable, I’m informing, not arguing.

What other evidence is there about what is strong or not strong, than competetive play? Everything can be distorted into “your opinion” “completely subjective” as an escape for being an idiot.
“Kneeling to them”? I refer to esl as us, I play in esl myself.

I asked some friends btw:

Difficult to trust that honestly, no date, no nothing, for all we know those screens are pre patch, Ill take your word for it when i see a video from them discussing this, plus reasoning.

Ok this is unacceptable, raids won’t take us now, In pvp combined with all the previous nerf bats we recieved and now with our dagger nerf(the absolute worst heal in game at the moment i think), and the passive heal regen has been upped to 2 upkeep, we are almost a free kill.

This is bs, you nerf nerf nerf without actually giving something in exchange, its just take take take.

What makes me mad above all else though is you focus on NERFING first rather then fixing the many crippling bugs that the rev has.

So will anet actually undo any of these nerfs? hah course not maybe in a few more months when they hit us with more nerfs; how bout all utility skills require 50 energy/max upkeep?

Heh i guess people might buy less HoT now since the class they are selling is almost useless.

Before someone points out “play another class” 1. One of the prime reasons i bought HoT was the rev and 2. I am one of the people who play only one class.

Am i overreacting? I do not know anymore, just looking at the previous balance patches rev has being slowly nerfed more and more.

Rant over. Lock this thread i don’t care, i am just a very frustrated customer at this point.

maddoctor.2738:

I find the new destroyers to be a downgrade instead of an upgrade. They are much easier to deal with than the old versions because they don’t do any damage and die instantly.

The destroyers in Taimi’s game were a real evolution, but for some reason we don’t fight those but rather some weakened versions. The new destroyers are a joke. Not that the core tyria ones were very threatening, but in higher level zones they were more of a threat than the new ones.

Also, I never liked the design of the GW2 destroyers, they had such awesome designs in GW1 and they made them look generic re-skins of existing creatures in GW2. But this isn’t an expansion so I hope when the Primordus expansion is released we’ll get loads of totally new mobs to fight with actually interesting mechanics and powers.

This, a million times this, during the story mission when it said “the destroyer of hope approaches” i was excited i thought id see the destroyer of hope from gw1, instead its just the same destroyer from SF and megadestroyer.

So..what do you want? just keep things the way they were and so alot of other people get pooped over? I lost nothing thankfully.