Guild Wars 2

Strider Pj.2193:

loki.7928:

Strider Pj.2193:

Well hello Linda.

Do you like close combat? Or ranged? That seems like that is a defining question with the two classes you note.

For WvW i like/Love Melee and CloseCombat. But for some reason i dislike it in pve..

Mes chrono tends to be more support and ranged. Not exclusively, but mostly.

Saying support chrono is ranged at all is plainly wrong. Sword/shield has no range at all and staff only ranged thing is chaos storm, while it being casted when you are in melee range is much better. All your utility skills are pbaoe with exception of null field if you are running it. Well of Etenrity and gravity well/time warp are ranged also, but again tend to be better if cast when you are in melee range.

Do you realy want WvW to be empty, like it was with HoT release? That’s part of why desert was soo hated, IT WAS EMPTY. Why was it empty? Everyone wanted their elite spec.

I was one of the earliest to get elite spec on my server and first in the guild(i used 15 teleport to friend and stuff like that), i went to WvW and it was completly empty and i logged off, what else could i have done? Now imagine how many more did the same thing when they’ve seen it was completly empty.

Threather.9354:

Some EU servers use discord, not gun name them cuz you will just bandvagon, pleb.

Discord over TS advantages:

• Has chat channels included (possible builds, videos etc), no need for server forums thro web browser.
• Voice quality is higher and delay is less, haven’t had “server crashes” or “robotvoices” due to too many online even once like in TS.
• Supports YouTube videos and lot of other sites (can setup perma music bot where people request songs for free)
• Is Free
• Accessible with web browser and joining server is easier for first timers

TS over discord:

• Discord doesn’t allow you to join multiple channels at once on different servers
• The overlay is more plain thus easier to understand
• Can setup Whisper Chat for focus parties, stab 2 etc.
• More people know how to use it thus there will be less confusion.

This, multiple channels at once and whisper lists. It might not be that usable in this meta (still is, but not to effect it was in times of focus party). Might become again.

Other thing that was not mentioned, some servers have founds collected for another year of server. I know my server has founds already partialy/fully collected for when we need to use them in march.

This sums it up pretty nicely, this spec is just worthless in it’s current form and i don’t know how to even make it better without rethinking half the traits all ambushes.

Artaz.3819:

Sword ambush + Sigil of Absorption (WvW or PvP) or Sigil of Draining (for spike damage) … not to mention up to 4 stacks of Stability lost too … and I’m not counting all the traits that synergize with interrupts. Interrupt builds just got a whole lot more powerful.

GS ambush is basically a let’s-tag-everything move which is great for a whole different reason (PvE or WvW zerg). The problem here is just the cast time needs to be shortened but maybe that’s the intention of balancing since this seems like a huge possible power alpha spike if 3 illusions are out.

How do you think of removing 4 stacks of stability using that?

Removing stability has 0.75s internal cooldown.

Rev realy hits like a truck.

SrebX.6498:

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582:

Nighteyess.2149:

I’m kind of concerned that with the amount of boon strip in the new elites that it will kill any melee combat.

The elites that use melee to strip boons, won’t use melee because there’s boon strip? I think the opposite, Hammer Spellbreakers ftw.

That’s exactly the thing. If stripping requires melee, you won’t be engaging in melee…
I’m very concerned for the upcoming meta :\ I think there’s a good chance Pirate ship meta is going to be back…
I sure as hell hope it won’t though, it’s only left to wait and see now

But you want to strip enemies boons, soo you have to go into melee, becouse warrior strips are going to be melee… So for that warrior to survive you need to have somekind of melee support.

What i hope will happen is revival of backline and with that revival of focus party.

If you were as good as you say you are and a vet and whatnot, people would already know you on your server. I can play anything i want on my mesmer and be on ts or not and most commanders won’t bat an eye. If anyone asks, why i run something, i bring out whole theory behind it and than they are like, oh this makes sense.

Why? Becouse they know me. Oh he’s a member of that guilds he knows kitten and stuff like that. Some of best portal boombs on server were done by me and my guildie. Before boonshare became popular and mesmer was still considered focus party material, commanders started putting me in their parties becouse of how much sustain i brought.

Like realy, put some work into it, get a name on your server and stop whining, yea you are deaf, a lot of people are and they have to work extra hard to achive something. People have all kinds of problems and they don’t whine here and demand punishment of commanders that are doing community a service.

My current build: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQNAseWncfCFohVpBGpBEgilVjqMCGhA48ISior+Yj2rF-TFyHABAcIAYSJY36D6R5X47P0u6PwfCAy/JAIKgMD-w

But well, i think you should change zerker trinkets to something a bit more tanky.

Also that dueling traitline is personal preference, which is probably not optimal and should be changed to chaos or domination, with chaos being safer option.

You can always check http://metabattle.com/wiki/WvW
Just make sure to read what particular build is ment for.

You literary have arcane skills on core elementalist and arcane traitline… It also seems to be quite purpleish.

No mounts in WvW, EVER.

Why would it need to be ranged to be used with sword?

Ok let’s write this the long way.

1. A mesmer would not be using 2 pistols to execute any skill, since offhand can be different. Meaning that you can have torch, focus or sword instead of a pistol in your offhand. Unless ofc, ANet gives mesmer skill 3 similar to thief. Also that purple splash on screen seems to be in the background.

2. Here is my suggestion as to what mesmer reveal was in this trailer.
If you look at the background of the necromancer, you can see 2 phantasms that are apparently using bows, which suggest a npc that is using those 2 phantasms or it’s part of new elite specialization for mesmer and since all phantasms use weapons they were summoned from, that would suggest mesmer is getting eather a longbow or a shortbow.

Links are there as proof.

If you don’t understand me now, you are eather trolling me or are blind drunk.

http://imgur.com/a/t84mx

DaShi.1368:

Another p/p mesmer in the latest trailer. :o

That is not a mesmer, especialy since it would not be using both weapons to shot(remember that you can have something else in offhand).

But there are infact 2 illusions with bows in their hands, right before the necromancer swings his greatsword.

http://imgur.com/9BA4agZ

https://youtu.be/z_VNG6N2evU?t=59s
If you set it to 0.25 speed it’s a lot easier to catch.

They had tactical importance when barriers were still in place, but they removed them becouse people complained about them.

GH+Vabbi+UW is going tier1 soon, stay there.

It was done 2 years before pve masteries…

Erzian.5218:

SloRules.3560:

Erzian.5218:

Engi, thief and druid are not less viable in wvw than nec, guard, rev are in raids. While not optimal, they have builds that can contribute well enough.
The reason for being kicked is actually pretty simple:
a) stubborn/narrow-minded players (if they squad isn’t full either way)
b) stability: Open tags/raids often do not have enough party stability to give it to everyone, therefore it is given to the players/classes that are deemed most useful. This does not mean that the others are useless or not viable, they are just not optimal (Just like you can play high mmr pvp on guard or raid on necro – it is possible but it is not optimal).

Would be nice to have a 2nd class with access to strong party stability though.

Mesmer has quite strong party stability trough mantra of stability and boonshare. But mantra is only 240 range, so tightness is essential.

Don’t think 240 range is practical in most squads
Unfortunately mesmer is also a class that you do not want to stack in squads.

Acctuly, mesmer is one of best classes(i would prioritize it over revenant) for any group, it has huge boonshare(every single boon in game, with everything but quickness and resistance being 100% uptime for first minute or so of the fight), while providing stability and cleanses and healing along with some of best CC in game.

People are just too stubrn to understand it and most mesmers are not good enough to play it(and lack 1000g to get the equipment).

Erzian.5218:

Engi, thief and druid are not less viable in wvw than nec, guard, rev are in raids. While not optimal, they have builds that can contribute well enough.
The reason for being kicked is actually pretty simple:
a) stubborn/narrow-minded players (if they squad isn’t full either way)
b) stability: Open tags/raids often do not have enough party stability to give it to everyone, therefore it is given to the players/classes that are deemed most useful. This does not mean that the others are useless or not viable, they are just not optimal (Just like you can play high mmr pvp on guard or raid on necro – it is possible but it is not optimal).

Would be nice to have a 2nd class with access to strong party stability though.

Mesmer has quite strong party stability trough mantra of stability and boonshare. But mantra is only 240 range, so tightness is essential.

Erzian.5218:

Unless you have a name/reputation, guard and to some extend rev are the only 2 classes that give you a guarantee to get into a useful subgroup (read: stability). Guard because it brings stab and rev because it brings resistance and is not that popular (at least on my server). As soon as you play anything else, be it reaper, ele, thief or ranger, it does not matter because you might end up without stability either way as soon as there is a lack of guards. Necro has the advantage that it is usually prioritized over the other contenders. On rhe other hand, many wvw players have the strange habbit of making subgroups of the same class as soon as there are not enough guards e.g. Alle the necros in 1 group, all the eles in another group and so on, as if they were desperately trying to handicap their squad as much as possible, just because they do not have the desired amount of guards. My favorite are the ranger only subgroups to ensure that spotter stays among the rangers and the reaper and thief only subgroups to reduce the amount of boons in those subgroups to a minimum.

I just leave such squads, or tell commander to fire his lieutenant.

As for getting kicked, well tough life, change your class/build or become known on your server(there is a reason that players like sindrener aren’t kicked).

I was also always put in “rejects party” becouse of playing mesmer, but people came around and seen that i’m on point with my skills and that my party has 5 boons more than every other. Eventualy more and more commanders are recognizing that mesmer can be a replacement for second guard(yea even in pugs). Ofc there are commanders that are stuck in old ways still, i just don’t bother with those.

If you are playing normal ranger, non-healing druid, dagger/pistol thief, than there is no reason to not get kicked. I can’t go play dungeons on my minstrel mesmer and expect to acctuly be allowed in the party.

I know I’m potentially opening myself up to intense ridicule with this post, but can we please, please, please have a different (PvP maybe?) way to obtain the Gift of Exploration? I’m sorry, but I hate PvE with an intense burning passion, and making me play PvE to get this necessary item for legendary crafting only intensifies my hatred. It was never even for sale. I don’t like PvE, I don’t like the people who PvE and come to my prefered gamemode to whine.

Metabattle builds are ment for guild groups of 15. Ofc every guild runs variations and adjusts to particular mesmers style of playing, but that is something mesmer has to figure out himself when he’s experienced enough, but by that time he wouldn’t need build guides.

And what is wrong with metabattle builds?

Metabattle + google

It is more that meta evolved past it(no backline in any of the guilds). You can still play it in pugs.

Power warrior is still best dps build. What is your complaint?

Problem is that there were in ve farmers karma training eotm whole day, so by using ranks to limit stuff you are aimply rewarding them

I like that you are trying different aspects of mesmer, but compared to SOI classic builds it seems a waste, kinda, even with higher healing potential. Look at your parties boon uptime, they are constantly low on fury and protection is also timing out, some more low impact boons also run out like vigor and resistance, all of those you can keep up with double SOI.

EDIT: Not to mention huge uptimes on quickness and resistance(when coupled with a rev).

Can you edit first post with all the links?

Ok I Did It.2854:

Honestly I suspect the people who love the DBL like to K-train and avoid all fights,

The DBL is to big for this game, it would be ideal if the map could have 200v200v200 players, then maybe, but as the game engine would likely explode the lag that it would generate would be felt in Cursed Shore,

Hopefully if they do make a new map with the new expansion it wont be so big, it will also promote more open field battles, im thinking of a capture the flag style thing, where your team has to be on x point to get points, where no siege can be placed, thus promoting open field battles.

How does it promote k-training, realy is there any argument that you can make to back that asumption.
Even siege cant be put into a tower to attack a keep which forces the attacker to put it out in the open, but can also put it in uncounterable positions so that defender has to come out of the keep to defend it or lose a wall.

Biggest problem is that there is no goal to WvW, which means that easiest manners will be taken(blobs). You just have to Split up to cover the whole map, which makes me Wonder if you arent the one that likes k-training.

Fyi i stop playing as soon as there is lag, which can be 50v50 with current levels of condi spam.

Like stated in my previous post, atleast try the map before critisizing

My server had Desert borderlands as home for 2 weeks now and it finaly saw some play from pug commanders. Let me tell you, that they just don’t know the map and are always, ALWAYS taking the long way.

Oh i’m at north shrine, i want to go to south and we have all 3 of them, goes though the keep!??!?!?! WTF take the new travel mechanic.

People not knowing you can aproach earth keep from south since like May last year and still going basicly to eather of the shrines or even to the side towers.

Having lava and not using it. Having windfall and going down the stairs. Having launch pads and not using them to basicly skip half the obstacles on the way.

As a smaller group you can quite easily evade a pug blob as opposed to alpine when you just get rolled over or chased around the whole map.

Pretty much only thing still wrong with this borderland is fear on firelord and that freaking circle on windlord, i kinda like earth lords effects, except for when it creates inner ring of stone and spins.

Btw, your ideas OP are kitten.

It does feel laggier as weeks go by, even with lower numbers, while once true lag only came out in a 3-way, now it’s unplayable for non-spam 1 classes with 50 people on each side(ok maby more).

More and more people have been switching to condi, even pugs play condi now.

Might help if you state wheter you are doing this for EU or NA.

Anyway, i would love to do something like this, just to have some Mesmer feedback, since Mesmers tend to be alone in the guild, but i’m commited to a guild already. Might ask you for a video review once i upload one that has chat covered and TS chatter restricted.

This guy has some of the best GvG mesmer footage i’ve ever seen, if you don’t feel like talking to him 1 on 1, atleast take a look at his videos on youtube.

Thing is that it’s a mainhand weapon, sword is already the best weapon we have. So it’s likely we wouldn’t be able to use one of these or use both and than use our crappy offhands(there is a reason shield is in every build). I don’t like this, i would realy preffer another offhand or 2 handed weapon. Unless they change something about our offhands ofcourse.

I’ll buy it just for mesmer elite specialization and story(yea you can argue it’s pve, but well i realy like gw2 story)

Fat Disgrace.4275:

Why on earth do you need 7 armour sets? I think I have 2 at the most per toon. Why 7?

I don’t know about him, but i currently have 3(marauder, commander and zerker), but would also like wanderer, crusader, minstrel and celestial for my guild uses and i’m not even in condi sets… Which i don’t realy like to use, but would also be very much beneficial, soo trailblazer and dire.

That brings us to 9 sets.

Excuse me, but if you want to command you should know that.

AH guardian is best and used by pretty much every guild/commander.

Jaina Ashlynn.1043:

SloRules.3560:

Jaina Ashlynn.1043:

Well I guess I’m playing my DH wrong because I run staff/GS pretty much all the time. I do carry a hammer but hate the thing & don’t use it. I also run durability runes and not mercy runes. You are right on the armor (3.3k) and heal power (right at 600).

Acctuly you are doing it wrong by going DH.

Matter of opinion on that and I’m not the only one doing it “wrong” given the number of DH I run across. I run the elite trap because the rest of the elites are basically useless. The spear of justice is handy for getting the ones that try and get away assuming they don’t have stab or a block. I also carry, and at times use, the longbow to help pin down enemy players. There have been several times, when not running with the pack, that I needed the extra range from the bow and couldn’t use it because of core guardian.

And those people are also doing it wrong, DH just sacrifices too much compared to core guardian and that is what pretty much every guild figured out shortly after HOT released.

If you want to roam, just use a different build, like everyone does that.

EDIT: Nvm… I’ve just seen you are NA, do as you like.

Jaina Ashlynn.1043:

Well I guess I’m playing my DH wrong because I run staff/GS pretty much all the time. I do carry a hammer but hate the thing & don’t use it. I also run durability runes and not mercy runes. You are right on the armor (3.3k) and heal power (right at 600).

Acctuly you are doing it wrong by going DH.

Just want to barge in and say i like desert borderlands and i’m not a PvE player, nor do i roam much.

Thing is meta is made by the guilds for the guilds and guilds tend to fight other guilds, which results in a battle where people just aren’t going down that much.

Other thing is that you can’t turn around a fight using that sigil when compared to sigil of energy.

If zerg has veteran players in it you are not going to bust it anytime soon. Doesn’t matter which builds you play.

It does sound interesting, WvW sure needs a shakeup, but how to balance this?

I mean there have to be shortcomings, weaknesses to everyone of these jobs, otherwise it’s just straight up powercreep, that i think this game does not need.

OriOri.8724:

And, in my opinion, that is exactly what an elite skill should be. They shouldn’t be utility+ skills, they should be fight defining skills. That’s why we have only 1 elite slot, and why the CDs are so incredibly long. They are supposed to swing a fight in your favor if you get it off.

And right now they don’t. They just don’t. Which, to me, makes them failures as an “elite” skill.

Moa is almost a guaranteed kill in sPvP, it’s not even used in GvGs, becouse it is considered poor practice-

Gravity Well always results in corpses, when timed correctly(no stab on enemy…)

Time Warp makes up for soooo much more preasure from your entire group, that it forces enemy retreat from that area or a Time Warp of their own.

Mass Invis is a guaranteed full out of combat reset, or a devastating out of stealth attack.

All 4 are massive in their respective fields and i only listed WvW, PvP posibilities…
You are trying to make them better, why??!?!??!

Our elite skills are already among the best out of all elite skills across all classes. All 4 skills you listed have a potential to swing a fight in your favor. With a skill for situations from 1v1 to 100v100.

I do not own any of these, but i have to say that if there was a button to mute dreamer, it would be first thing in settings i set. It is sooooooooo annoying. Please change it.

All good and well, but do you know how much work that would take…

zealex.9410:

and dont u have the slightest of time to cleanse that in a group?

same time (1/2s cast)
2x/3x https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Corrupt_Boon
2x/3xhttps://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Banish_Enchantment
3x/4xhttps://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Purging_Flames
+random condies
—————————————————————————————————————————-
2x/3x/4x epidemic(1s cast)

You don’t even have to hit everything and people are going to start falling.

Spurnshadow.3678:

Sounds to me like a lot of you people are running around like chickens with your heads cut off. Get in an organized group. Join a guild. Run proper group comp. Epi and condis do nothing. I never have a condition on me for more than one or two seconds.

On the other hand, resistance is OP. I don’t understand why anyone is running condi in large scale combat unless they’re facing a total pug group on EB or just a terrible guild.

^That is from EU WvW turnament on monday. It looks like it’s working.