Guild Wars 2

I could deal with the terrible Tab Targeting, if i could ever find my cursor. I use my mouse to turn, and during big battles it’s very difficult to remember where it was 5 mins ago when i started pushing it. Then when i need to ground target, I spend a couple of precious seconds trying to pick out my cursor. Or when i’m trying to switch targets, and tab targetting fails, takes me a couple seconds to find my cursor so i can target the person right in front of me.

Because then 3rd place is only playing for 2nd. What’s the point in fighting to not win? Supposing that the scores aren’t so unbalanced by the end of the weekend, 3rd place could still become 1st place. This can be true any day, really, if the matchups are kept close.

Let’s say scores at 20K, 15K, 14K, then by your logic, second and third would simply switch around every couple hours, and whoever’s in second at any given time would be getting beat up by 1st. But, if 2nd and 3rd beat up on 1st, suddenly the scores would become something like 22K, 20K, 20K. And that continues, until scores are even. And at the end of the week, every single server has a chance to win.

tldr: Nobody plays to not win.

Numbers are all made up, not based on anything. Just showing an example.

Actually, if IoJ was in first place, and CD was in second place, it makes perfect sense to go after CD for us. That way, you dont’ catch up. Seriously, it’s like CD is full of whiners who can’t handle a 3 way fight. We knew, and still know, that CD is the bigger threat than FA. Put your big boy pants on!

It’s not about spawn placements. It’s about going for the server that’s most likely to give you trouble. Especially when in first. Stop crying over being “double teamed”, because if you can’t hack it here in T3, you’ll be even more upset if you ever make it to T2.

Just because it didn’t happen last match, or the match before, or any match you’ve ever been in, doesn’t mean a thing. FA didn’t help CD try to take down IoJ the week we won? boo hoo, maybe they’re learning. Maybe they realize that by keeping the scores close, it’s their best chance of staying in T2. CD has some great players/guilds, but your forum warriors are starting to make you sound like a bunch of preteen emo kids. At least FA doesn’t come to the forums to whine…

Hek, never once did i insult CD or FA. I was just pointing out a few things to you, and you decided to turn it into a peeing contest. There are fantastic players and guild on IoJ, and I’d take them all, even the worst player, over you any day. I’m sorry you’re mad that your “leet” guild can’t hack the pressure of a competitive field without whining about it on the forums.

Every other CD and FA player, thanks for the fights! Been a blast all week so far!

Deny what? What exactly am I denying? I’m not from FA btw. I was just pointing out that CD is publicly recruiting, and that the only people complaining about double teaming is CD. Which seems to work in your favour?

Heinel.6548:

I just don’t get why FA has to keep saying they’re being out numbered ALL THE TIME. It seems like they didn’t realize statements like this is what killed their morale and caused people to bail on them, thereby becoming a self fulfilling prophecy. Playing victims make you preys. No one wants to be prey.

In CD, whenever we get someone complaining about being double teamed, we go into great lengths explaining what exactly is going on and that we aren’t being double teamed (in an unfair way). We also try to keep the situation static when things don’t go our way, and try to hold people on the map the best we can. If we do get the outmanned buff we don’t make a big deal out of it. Just wait for other people to join the map and make a comeback.

If all these things aren’t being done then all it says is that FA has no leadership. It won’t matter how many people you try to recruit if you can’t keep them fighting. I’ve yet to see CD try to publicly recruit cross-server, even though we too have no queue anywhere most of the time, and when we do get queues for an hour or so at peak, it’s less than 5 minutes queues.

Araliun.5024:

So guilds of IoJ and FA … ready to transfer to CD and take it to the next Tier? We have our sights set on Tier 2. Perhaps you do as well. SO maybe it’s time for a little server hopping. Message me if interested in discussing.

Well, there’s a public cross-server recruitment right there, from this very thread. And the only people i see complaining about double teaming is CD. Point, set, match.

The only way to prevent exploits and hacking in WvW is to have a moderator for each matchup. They need a “monitor program” that watches how things happen, in what order, etc. They need to actively monitor the matchups. Problem is, that costs money, and this game has no subscription fee, which means there are no funds for that. They could try to code in a better anti-cheat system, but that will take too much time. I gave up caring about the exploits effect on the matchups. Just report, move on, and hope that eventually they figure out how to stop it. Until then…. no orbs.

wtf is up with rangers being able to send their pets up onto the walls now? Even without LOS. i thought stuff like that was supposed to be fixed…

JPSnow.8296:

Because cd is on top ATM makes more sense to get points from there…..

This! CD points are basically worth double right now, because we gain those point, and CD doesn’t. Stop complaining about your BL being the target. You’re #1, so you should be the target. Don’t like it? Try a game without 3 teams then.

As for taking our whole BL, doesn’t much matter. We got it back, and we’re ahead on PPT. We’ll keep fighting and clawing our way back, regardless of the numbers you throw at us. And why is it that you have to pull out your kitten and start measuring it against everybody else? You remember this is a game, right? CD has been a good fight, FA has been a good fight. Why can’t we leave it at that instead of trying to call each other out for being baddies, or zerg guilds, etc etc… Have some sportsmanship people

There is no double teaming going on! There is no secret alliance! Here’s how it works:

CD is currently winning. FA and IoJ are not playing for 2nd. We are all playing for first. How to get there? Put pressure on #1. Congratulations, you just figured out WvW!! If we’re not attacking FA, or vice versa, it’s because we’re trying to cut your lead down. This was the way 3way fights are supposed to be played. And it’s been fun!

Stop with the double team talk. CD is doing well, yes. Nobody has denied that. But to come on here and say we’re double teaming you? I spend 90% of my time in IoJ BL defending against CD and FA, though mostly CD. FA only seems to pop up when CD is hitting us at Bay. Which is a smart tactic. It’s not double teaming.

It’s been a fun matchup so far, though frustrating at times here on IoJ. We have had a couple of defenses sabotaged by players ordering upgrades in the middle of a siege. We have guilds that defend a tower/keep, then just leave to another BL cause they’re bored. And then we get rushed by both CD and FA. But that’s the nature of WvW. Kudos to all the servers, let’s keep the fights going!

To the Warrior and Thief in IoJ BL this morning… Ouch. You hurt. Lots. Care to share your specs/gear choices? That was crazy, hope you enjoyed the badges. lol

The new dungeon was designed to be hard. First time i did it, it was me and another 80, everybody else was upleveled. Last time i ever do FotM dungeon with a non-80. The dungeon may upscale you, but unless you understand the way it uplevels, you kitten everybody. You have to have your level of gear, then it upscales to around what an 80 has. If you have so much as 1 piece that’s lower level than you are, it doesn’t upscale properly. Same as in WvW.

You say everybody is just LFG and not making a group, so wouldn’t it be easier to try to start your group, instead of being exactly like the people you want to complain about? Unequipping your gear…. I’d kick you too. Environmental damage aside, there’s no reason to not have your gear on. If you are having problems with money, you’re doing it wrong. I’m on my third 80, and have had no gold problems on any of them. I also don’t farm.

How does it prevent capturing the camp? That’s an awfully long way from the capture circle, and if they do move into the circle, they’re not invuln anymore. There’s a place like that on the opposite side of the map, at Lake. It’s a minor bug, where the invuln from being up top is clipping to the bottom side of the hill.

Can we stop talking about the T1 stuff, or other servers that aren’t in this matchup? This isn’t about them, it’s about our matchup. And on that note:

Score update?

p.s. you 2 lovebirds can chat somewhere else instead of highjacking the thread.

I have an 80 Thief, which was my third class. First was a ranger, then an engineer. I’m back to playing my ranger now. I only rolled a thief to see how they changed from BWE, and don’t play my thief very often.

Is stealth annoying? Sure. It is in every game. Is it game breaking? Only if you think that a thief running away from you is game breaking. After playing a thief, i learned so much about the class, that even rendering isn’t a problem anymore. I won’t explain why, because that’s up to you to figure out. Needless to say, even though Rangers are pretty much crap right now, thieves don’t give me any trouble. 3 traps on the ground, a couple dodges and that thief will run as fast as they can. Often, not fast enough.

I’m not defending a thief, because i don’t have to. The class mechanic isn’t broken, it’s different than anything else. If you so choose not to learn how to deal with it, that’s your problem.

p.s. please don’t tell me i’m only defending thieves because I play one, because as i mentioned, i rarely play my thief

I can’t even read all of this post. Just sounds like everybody is mad that they didn’t get a precursor. I didn’t either. Neither did anybody i know. It happens. It’s not like you paid them for gems to open that chest and got screwed, you played a game and didn’t get a drop. Big whoop.

Stop making up % numbers that you have no proof of. saying it’s a 25% or 50% drop rate is ridiculous. I bet the % was the same as Claw of Jormag, only difference is that this event had way more people at it. So the % seems higher

You do know that WvW was intended to be casual? It was clearly stated that it was for the casual player, and that “hardcores” had sPvP. Turtling was a clever use of game mechanics that cause those very same mechanics to change.

Healing should not ever, under any circumstances, make siege equipment irrelevant. This is a game of sieging. The “turtle” strategy was not what Anet wanted to have happen in WvW, so they changed the mechanic that made it viable.

I get that some people want to heal, but they’re playing the wrong game then. I originally came in wanting to heal, but quickly learned that wouldn’t happen. This game is supposed to be about damage avoidance and mitigation, not healing. That’s why there are so many skills that negate/avoid/lower damage. That is the healing mechanic this game has. The “turtle” strategy showed them where a problem was, and they fixed it. It was never intended for 40 people to stand on top of each other as a way of staying alive. It was supposed to be about building siege, moving around the field, etc.

Score update

Looks a little different than it did a week ago

Finally, got back to playing my Ranger, my first 80. Just started collecting some pieces for my set, still a few more to go.

I was in EBG earlier, killing the SoS dolyaks. They wised up though, and sent a couple guys to guard them. I was sneaking around a hill, waiting for my time to strike when…. A SoR rogue popped up and started killing the dolyak. So, i did what any sane person did, and i helped kill that dolyak. We both turned, ran across past the keep, and killed the other dolyak headed towards SM.

Whoever you are, little thief, I salute you! I should have looked for a guild tag or whatever, but didn’t even think about it. Just thought it was awesome to work with another thief from another server to take the dolyaks out. Doesn’t happen very often.

You can jump up there. It’s a jumping puzzle, and completely doable. First time we saw this, I jumped almost all the way up and started shooting them from the floor below. Mesmer portals were probably used to transport the supply up for the trebs though.

look for the little swirl of black. That’s the thief’s stealth dropping. The thief may not render, but that effect does. Tab target and dodge. Voila. You’d be surprised how easy it really is.

That happens at garrison a lot. Welcome to T1. Suck it up. Seriously, stop with the 2v1 talk. It’s starting to sound like whining.

Well, i’m pretty sure that there weren’t meant to be any way inside a keep beyond breaking a door or wall down. I would call it an exploit, regardless of somebody saying “You have to jump, and have skill to do it”. Just ask yourself if you believe that was Anet’s intention? Did they put all the work into WvW, just to have players find a way to get over the gate without breaking it down? I highly doubt it.

Queue’s that weren’t there 2 weeks ago.

Also, people who think that we can’t come to the forums to give Anet our feedback. They seem to think that forums are places where only rainbows and unicorns are supposed to be talked about, because giving your feedback on the game is bad!

wow… Queue’s on all the maps, and IoJ is falling behind. I dunno what changed over the last week, but this is ridiculous. Guess we got more transfers than i thought, cause queue’s have never been this long, and we’re a better server than this… Brutal.

Seriously? Already the talk about 2v1 has started, and the matchup hasn’t even been announced.

Let’s face facts. In a 3 way competition, there is always going to be perceived 2v1’s. Read any post about any matchup, and you’ll hear that accusation. It’s the nature of the beast.

As for IoJ not being able to hang, we’ll see. Maybe we’ve lost some of our bandwagonners, Halloween is over, and the cleanup on the east coast is underway. We’ll find out where we sit this evening. No sense in calling us out without knowing what we’re capable of.

so funny to watch BG’s attitude change. Now they’re complaining that their own “tactics” have been used against them. bahahahahahahaha

GJ again this week SBI. I hope you guys continue to do well, and the bandwagonners avoid you. JQ, wtf happened? I’m a little shocked by the performance this week, although it could be attributed to many things. GL to you guys too. BG, GL in next weeks’ matchup. Hopefully less trash talking, more fighting.

So, it’s hypocritical of IoJ to say we were taking a break, and enjoying the holiday event, but it’s ok for SoS to say “You’re only taking stuff back, cause we’re not there”. Whatever. Look at the matchup we had in T1, the point spread really happened after the event started.

IoJ came out full force for the T1 Matchup because it was T1. That’s why the week’s match was great. This week, i think many were off enjoying their halloween event, and not worried about a T2 matchup. Many (maybe bandwaggoners) probably figured that since WE were the ones dropping from T1 to T2, that we would roll over whoever we fought. So they didn’t show up. Obviously not the case, but can you really blame them? The last time we saw SoS they basically disappeared. I remember the chat exploding with “Where did SoS go?” “If SoS would get out of their spawn..” etc etc etc.

Doesn’t excuse that we didn’t show this week, but it certainly explains a certain mindset of individuals when it comes to WvW. T1 moving to T2 means you’ll stomp. Fighting old opponents that you beat, means you’ll stomp.

Obviously, this week (hopefully) changed people’s opinions, and when we come out on the battlefield on Friday, we’ll show you why we deserve to be here. Why we’ve stayed as the “Gatekeeper” for so long, and why we’re so eager to move up to T1 again. I myself didn’t do WvW for the weekend, since i was finishing off leveling my third toon in the labyrinth. And seeing that it was all in overflow until yesterday… Most people were in there farming.

I must say, I get more and more impressed by SBI every week. I didn’t think they’d pull it off last week, and they did. Looks like it may be more of the same this week. Good Job SBI!!

As for the whole 2v1 thing, get over yourselves. It’s the appearance of a 2v1, happens all the time, in all the matchups. Here’s the thing though. I wouldn’t blame them if they chose to 2v1 you. BG had a great reputation (beastgate) as a server that wouldn’t quit, much like my own. Then they got mad transfers from HoD and started talking kitten to everybody on the forums. The last 2 weeks have seen the forums fill up with a bunch of garbage from a bunch of players who think they’re better than everybody. If i was on JQ or SBI, i would certainly tunnel vision on the kitten talkers too. Not that that’s what’s happening, just saying. Maybe try to put a little more sportsmanship into what you write, might get you further.

It took me about 3 hrs to beat the clock tower, and i consider myself a “poor” platformer. I can do jumping puzzles, but i hate them. The clock tower on the other hand.. I loved it.

I play an Asura, and it was frustrating for a while. The people i was on vent with at the time can verify the amount of f-bombs that came out. But there was laughter behind every one. I kept reminding myself that it’s a game, and i could leave anytime. Which i did after the first 2.5 hrs. Then i came back and finished.

my tips:
Breathe. Concentrate on breathing slowly. This helps keep the adrenaline spikes down when you make a jump you haven’t made before.

Remember your path. There are multiple ways to jump, and it’s important to remember where you jump from and where you land. Corner to corner is often the best case here.

The green ooze doesn’t kill you right away. You can jump and land on objects that are just covered by the green stuff. The arms that come up dont’ slow you down, damage you, or otherwise impede you. They’re there to throw you off your game. Don’t let them win.

Laugh about your failures. I made it almost all the way to the top twice, and then on one run managed to fall through the second set of stairs (the one with the hole in them). Silly mistakes happen.

Don’t use the keyboard to turn. This is a hard one, because not everybody is comfortable turning with a mouse. I also had to turn my rotation speed all the way up in game, and turn my mouse polling up to 2500 in order to feel comfortable. There are also a couple places during the run you can reset your hand position.

Keep running. After the first pause, and the stuff comes flying out of the tower to hang in the air, jump smart. You can take your time here, but about 3-4 jumps later, don’t let go of W (or whatever key you use to move forward). This allows you to easily outdistance the green stuff, and the other bodies. Most of the jumps can be made at full speed. And it stops you from accidentally double tapping the button, make your guy roll off the edge of the platform.

Just my tips to help out. Keep trying as long as it’s fun. Take a break when it’s not.

Everybody out of the circle! Put 1 guy in the circle, and AOE the crap outta that guy. Thief will die if he gets near, and visible if he doesn’t.

There are multiple ways to deal with a thief who’s trying to prevent a cap. Ever since that video popped up, it’s become common knowledge that when your cap stops, it’s probably a thief. Don’t stand around and expect the problem to fix itself. Use some creative ways to force him out. Happens more than you’d know, cause nobody puts a video of it up.

SBI and JQ didn’t roll over IoJ last week. The fight was certainly more competitive than this. Get your facts straight.

You know what’s real sad?

Last week’s T1 Matchup was awesome. This week, not at all.

What’s the difference? From an Outsiders perspective:

IoJ came into T1 expecting to be crushed. We were gonna fight tooth and nail, but ultimately come up short. No problem. When the weekend went by with some great fighting, we knew we were still in the race, so we kept fighting. I don’t recall any hacks or exploits being used on either side (couple small things, but no biggie) and cheesy tactics were non-existent. We all wanted a good fight.

This week, BG came in knowing they could compete with SBI and JQ. All the transfers from HoD had already been in T1, so they knew what to expect. They didn’t spread out to various servers, they all chose 1 (for the most part). This is unfortunate, because BG got their nickname because of their tenacity and desire to put on a good fight, which is why HoD went there. Now, this should have been a good fight from Day 1! But it wasn’t, because from the sounds of it, a couple hacks and some cheesy tactics have ruined the fun.

Does everybody remember that’s what it’s supposed to be about? I’m really glad that BG is happy steamrolling through the competition. Cheesy tactics have caused the fun to die in the game. Doesn’t matter that the tactics are effective, and they help you win… They’re cheesy, abusing the mechanics of the game (which i think is the actual definition of exploit, but i digress) and they suck the fun out. Couple that up with a couple of ill-timed Hacks, and the morale plummets on the opposing servers.

What’s the point in getting your Orb back if it’s just gonna get hacked again? What’s the point of going into WvW if you’re gonna be fighting a stack of players, instead of an army of players? Seriously, where’s the fun? Oh yeah, it’s in last week’s matchup.

IoJ didn’t even show up for our matchups this week. The Halloween event has basically killed the matchup, which i’d like to apologize to SoS for. I still think there’s more fun to be had in our matchup, because at least everybody seems to want to have some fun. Blackgate, enjoy your victory! I hope we never get to T1 again, because WvW is supposed to be fun.

I’ve had groups of people just disappear on me. It’s definitely not my gaming rig, or my fiber optic internet. It’s a problem with the culling that seems to pop up at random. Entire group disappears, 20-30 secs later, they will fade back in exactly where they were, like nothing happened. Since this seems to happen with regular frequency, i chock it up as another failure on Anet’s end.

This is my solution: Cap the AoE at a certain dmg. Take away caps. Easy to balance, since you can just take the average dmg that class would do against 5 targets, then just make that the cap. Sure, the dmg is gonna be 1/2 on 10 people, 1/4 on 20 ppl etc, but with enough ppl, it wouldn’t matter much.

So, after spending most of the day out and about, doing other stuff. Dungeons, wvw, etc. Went back into the labyrinth and….. still hit DR immediately.

Seriously? Did i farm enough in the time it’s up that i have hit permanent DR? What kind of design is that? Put something in that’s clearly meant to be farmed, and then put DR on it.

Ok, i spent a lot of time in the labyrinth yesterday, getting my toon to 80. Almost as soon as i hit 80, i hit the DR. The only drops i was getting were the skulls and gobs of ooze. Logged off, went to sleep. Came back this morning, and… Still hit the DR?! How long do i have to leave and not farm there before it goes away? Doesn’t that kind of defeat the purpose of it?

I’ve had 3 exotics drop on 5 runs. Nothing my first 2, then one on each of my subsequent runs. lvl 78 exo dagger, lvl 76 exo head and the mad king slippers. My friend had the mad king chest and shoulders drop in our last 2 runs.

This was far and away the most fun I’ve had in the game. It gave me a reason to keep going back. Fell? Try a different path. Camera goes funky? Try setting it up a little different at the pause.

I will say that people who keyboard turn have a very low chance of finishing. Even with my mouse polling set-up to 2500 and years of experience using my mouse to turn, it was still difficult.

I finished the clock tower yesterday (yay me!) and I thought it was fantastic. Truly enjoyed it, even if i did have to walk away out of frustration at one point.

I’m actually looking forward to doing it again, i’m just wondering if there would be a reason to do it again today? Does the chest reset every day?

Aura Thief
No speed boost.

Only had to try about 50 times.

Yes, this has been answered a few times already, by devs. It’s called a search function.

KKK is the equivalent of LOL in portugese from what i was reading. The fact that this game has people from across the world makes it easy for people to have a misunderstanding of the language differences. KKK, for the ku klux klan, is really only an american thing.

The fact that the author mentions they were probably chinese is based on statistical facts. Gold Selling companies, who are the main employers of bots, are most often based out of china. It’s not racist to assume the people being botting are based it china. It is racist if they said they’re chinese, so they must be botters/gold famers.

Never flamed you for it. Just breaking down some logic. I understand that maybe it wasn’t a “verified fly hack”, but to say “doesn’t mean we cheated” is silly. There’s no way it would have respawned in garrison. You don’t want cheaters and hacks, which is great. I don’t think anybody who legitimately enjoys wvw wants cheats and hacks. But situations like this are starting to taint the experience, and it sounds like you’re trying to justify an obviously shady situation. I’m not even in this matchup, just sounds like these are the things that are gonna start to creep into the everyday matchups, thereby ruining the fun for everybody. Especially when people think they have to defend an action taken by someone on their server. If it was a glitch, then you and your whole server took advantage of it.

Silvius.6240:

Zahdane.4029:

C) At least one verified Orb Fly Hack.

All of these things from the same server – evidently proud of the fact.

You’re wrong on two counts here. People have been saying that it was a fly hack that removed the orb from hills in bg borderlands and moved it to the garrison last night. I was on blackgate when that happened, and I don’t think it was hacked. We were focused on bay when the altar at hills broke, 10-15 seconds passed, and it appeared at garrison. The conversation on blackgate team chat was this:

blackgater 1: cool!
blackgater 2: not cool. did we cheat?
blackgater 3: no, their altar got hit by lightning, I don’t know why it went to garrison, maybe a glitch?

I’m not saying I know one way or another, but with a fly hack you usually see the orb fly across the map first (thanks to IoJ player that showed me that in action 3 weeks ago), in this case it just popped onto another altar. If it was lightning, I can’t explain why it didn’t go to the north camp, but that doesn’t mean we cheated: there are a few glitches in the game after all. So, not “verified”.

And most importantly, we don’t want hackers on our server, and will report them.

lol. How did we get the orb? their altar broke and this time it magically appeared in our garrison. Nope, not a cheat. we just super lucky that it happened to us. Couldn’t be a cheat, cause it’s not like the other cheats. This time, it respawned in garrison.

I think IoJ caught the bandwagonners this time. People saw a server that did quite well in T1 the first week, and figured we’d be the winning server in T2 this week. Much like it was when ET/SBI were sent down to t2.

Halloween events probably also kept some of our WvWers out. I haven’t logged on since Anet screwed the pooch on the BLC. Hacks are still rampant amongst WvW, and few of the problems since pre-release are still rampant. Maybe people are just sick of Anet lying to us?

ArenaNet needs to come out and say what the problem was. Was it their fault? Was it an exploit? Bug? They also need to get their customers faith in them back. Some people, who work/go to school/otherwise preoccupied during the day, didn’t get a chance to get the exotics at such a good rate. They’re mad, cause some of them will have been farming htat mats that dropped for the weapons that dropped. Those are weapons that will take months to get. The people who were expecting a skin for the $100 they spent on keys, whether a reasonable amount or not, are now even more pissed off. Not only did they spent real money to get something, which was not a very “fair” advertisement based on the drop rate, but now they have other people with the cool skins who will always have them for nothing! This is a very poorly handled event in general.