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so many people just replied wrong infomations. i can’t quote all of them but i will try..
did you read my post? please read them and back again..basically all I take from your post: "I read the forums and play the game, and other people just like me cry nonstop that they are overpowered. I couldn’t figure out why they are OP, so I don’t know what I want to complain about. Since I definitely want to cry but don’t know why, and haven’t seen posts about the clones……BINGO. Since no one has made posts about the clones yet I will cry all night about the clones and let it ruin my experience instead of becoming stronger.
Hurts to see the mentality of gamers sometimes not eve worth reading
also i think you never played tourney you troll. you couldn’t but most people could do it.
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I don’t think mesmer is OP. YES, they’re tough, but there’s several ways to beat them.
1- When there’s a handful of clones, RUN away 20 steps. The clones won’t follow you. The mesmer will. Kill the mesmer.
2- When you first see a mesmer in the game, you and the rest of your team MARK’s the mesmer before he spawns anything else. Problem solved… the clones do NOT copy the mark. Kill the mesmer.
3- The mesmer is the guy moving around compared to standing in one place. Kill the mesmer.
Now those spirit rangers always get me! I never know if I should attack the character or those spirits.
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1 and 2. how do you run away 20 steps in fighting? do you want to lose point or do you think everyone in your team will run away 20 steps because of clones? and did you even read what i said? must i say it 3 times? the red mark will be gone if mesmer uses some skills or blink or other people in my team target other enemy etc. the problem is you can’t target several enemies and the red mark will disappear suddenly if mesmer runs away or uses some skill like stealth or blink. i think those people who say clones are not op are just trolls. they dont even read my post.
3. mesmer clones also move and he follows and attacks enemies unless real one uses dodge or some skills, you can’t know which one is real. and people know it. they act like clones wisely. i think you never played tourney in your life. it is too hard to know which one is real. even he uses stealth or blink. isn’t it impossible?
i never played other mmo and i hate farming in every mmo games. and i quitted WoW at 10 level. i like gw2 pretty much. please don’t make gw2 like other mmo especially WoW. stop that!!
i got bored at mesmer at 80 level suddenly. and i made necromancer. lame.
I do more damage with a mark/well build, and that can affect a huge area as well as provide condition support/removal, stripping boons, ample healing, and equally useful in all arenas (PvE, Dungeon, sPvP, WvW).
Anything with minions these days I’ve to frown at. Too many baddies running around with minions in PvP actually thinking they’ll protect them… 1 AoE spec player lays them to rest almost instantly.
I agree with Boz unfortunately… poor example of Necro potential.
did you even watch the video? i posted this video in spvp forum and someone said this necro is pretty kittening powerful. poor example of necro? i play tournament everydays. everyone in every groups said my necromancer is strong. there was no one who complained about my necro or my necro is weak. and most people added me and wanted to play with me again.
do you want to duel me in spvp? but i think it is waste of time to duel you. even if i win you, it is only you not everyone. and i don’t need to post it in this forum. and i already posted it in spvp forum. i just realized most people don’t see forum. but there is no build you can do more damage than me. i swear i can kill you in 5 or 10 seconds because necromancer has no many interrupt skills. and these are only 1 second. and necro’s conditions are pretty long duration. but i kill anyone in 10 seconds. are you sure you are stronger than me? once watch the video and change your mind. you can’t win me even a time since you are necromancer.
and i never lost 1 vs 1 mostly in tournament except few.
i never do condition damage or boon.
and your AoE skill is condition damage. if you can’t kill my minions in a second, you must take tons of damage in 0.5 second because its casting delay is 0.5 second.
and those skills have short recharges than all your skills except blood mark.
even i have condition consume. if i once consume all conditions, and i do damage again, you will die in few seconds.
unless you are super defense guardian or warrior, you can’t stand against me for 10 or 20 seconds.
so bad for you. never try this build and never read this thread again. everyone in game thinks my build is pretty strong than any necro. and you didnt even try it. how can you say it is bad? this build has more potentials than your build since it is not condition damage. it will be the solution for everyone who doesn’t like long duration condition and other weak damage skills.
i will delete this thread very soon if someone insults my build again.
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Care to link the build?
you can see the link in the video.
http://en.gw2codex.com/build/18763-minion-melee-dmg-burst-necro-1-3
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most people are random in spvp. therefore most teams are way too weaker than tournament team. once if you play tournament, you will uninstall the game if you really think the teams in spvp are imbalanced. but every teams are random. i think you are just trolling. those teams are totally random. they are very weaker than tournament. and if the opponent team is imbalanced, you can leave the game. and join a new game. as i said, most new games you join are almost the end or almost 0 vs 0.
and if the game is over, teams are reset. and people go to random team. it is fair enough. this game’s system is perfect than any other game. there is even tournament.
i never complained about leaver and unbalanced game because i can join new game and most new games i joined were well balanced or almost over. and it is hot-join. if you don’t like, go playing tournament. even COD, crysis 2, BF3, latest most multiplayer games have no such a debuff system. because it ruins the game and no one will buy the game.
- MOA : very long cast time = easily predictable, dodgeable, blockable, fumbleable, etc etc… It only lasts 10 seconds, I dont think i died often if ever while MOA’d. Add that its 3 mins CD = once in a game, so OP rofl
- Time Warp : 3.5 mins CD, 10 sec haste if people stay inside the aoe … Very powerful but mitigated by very long CD and its only effective in rare stationary fights.
- AoE invis : 90 sec CD for 5 second stealth .. WAOUH !!!
I would trade any of those 3 for something actually useful to my character.
OHhhhhh wait, I would take rogue’s shadow Refuge as Elite skill, even though they have it for free as utility skill : less cooldown, aoe stealthing zone that stays a while huhuhu AND it heals up !!!!
it is not easily predictable, dodgeable, blockable, fumbleable. it is a single target skill. and it has no long casting delay. and if you become moa morph, you can do nothing for 10 seconds. you can’t use any skill. you will die in few seconds if you can’t use any heal or protection skills. you may not die, if there are your team and other enemies fight other guys. but in fighting, if you are main tanker, and you become moa and can do nothing for 10 seconds, all your team will die. that you can do nothing for 10 seconds in tournament means you will die soon. and you become moa, enemies will chase you and will not stop killing you. because it is a biggest chance to kill an enemy.
Also from reading many of these “Clones OP” threads, they scream “I want an easy way to kill the mesmer” button. Sorry but like all classes..you’re gonna have to work for that kill.
not all class. everyone says mesmer is OP. and i found reason why mesmer is OP. i think you dont even play gw2. “sorry but like all classes” this sentence makes a lot of sense. imao. i think you didnt play gw2. you bought gw2 to troll in forum. isnt it?
so many people just replied wrong infomations. i can’t quote all of them but i will try..
did you read my post? please read them and back again. i never meant “please make a button to kill mesmer easily”. i am talking about overpowered skills. i saw many people who complained that mesmer is too annoying. it means mesmer has some OP skills. it is not my opinion. it is the most people’s opinions. i didn’t see many threads about mesmer clone skills. so i decided to post this thread.
the problem is you can’t see which one is real. and even if you target the mesmer(ctrl+click) and you see red thing on his head for a while. it will disappear suddenly. there is no way you can see real one if the red thing on his head is gone. and mesmer uses stealth or blink, it is more harder to see real one. it is impossible to see real one in fighting.
and i said they are all high rank. and they are not stupid like you. they have all jobs and good lives. and they played gw2 for many days. but still they say it is too hard to kill mesmer and mesmer is too annoying. and whenever they fight mesmer, they start complaining about mesmer. and i said why mesmer is OP. because the red thing on his head is gone suddenly when he uses some skill.
and if someone in your team targets other enemy. and if other enemy gets the red thing on his head, it is impossible to know which mesmer is real.
and if mesmer uses greatsword, the clone uses greatsword. i saw that mesmer spawns many clones and he doesn’t move on purpose. and people couldn’t be able to attack real one for a while. you must kill 3 clones in fighting. there were many enemies. do you really think you have enough time to kill those 3 clones or know real mesmer in fighting? i think you never played tournament or you always met weak team in tournament. but most people in tournament are way too stronger than random server.
only noobs or rude people say L2P. strong people know they are strong. they never say L2P. and spamming overpowered skills like thief and mesmer is not Learn to Play.
learn to say truth.
i am talking about real situation that i have experienced in tournament for weeks. if you call me rude or something here, you are very stupid person.
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so many people just give up in the middle of dungeon or story dungeon.
there must be normal – high difficulty option.
those dungeons are too hard to play. so many people are complaining about this.
if you select normal, you will enter normal dungeon that is easier than hard dungeon. and you get smaller and cheaper rewards from hard dungeon.
but i really like the current difficulty of dungeons in gw2. they are not very easy. i can challenge. i never experienced it in other online games. i need more strong group to finish this dungeon. and when i play a dungeon with strong group, it is very epic and funny. and i heard that my friend joined a very strong group. they killed every bosses and monsters too easily in few seconds. they had all full strongest gears.
and i ran spvp everydays for 2 weeks. now i became too strong. i know every skills. and i made a strongest damage build. if i level up my character, i think i can kill anything in gw2.
but i dont want to see people suffer from hard dungeon. there should be easy mode or normal mode option in dungeons.
It's disappointing that legendary items require 100% world completion
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i don’t agree player skill and the player’s time investment. you said you agree player skill and the player’s time investment and you hate time investment at the same time. you must be more clear. but if the legendary items depend on player skill, it will be more unfair. everyone will not be able to get legendary items. and everyone will quite the game. everyone can get legendary item because it is not depending on player skill.
here is the solution.
you get legendary item by running many dungeons.
you get legendary item by running many spvp or killing enemy.
you get legendary item by running many tournaments or winning tourney.
you get legendary item by completing map 100%.
you get legendary item by by killing many strong monsters in the world.
it is exactly what you want to do. isn’t it?
try this build.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcIOlaGXaeI
you can blow up and kill enemy easily in few seconds.
this necromancer never do condition damage. purely normal damage.
Really not the best place for this as it should be in the Mesmer subforum but the best way to figure out what is the real one…a good mesmer wont’ stay still for long. Not to mention if they are a sword/pistol build they will be getting in your face (best bet that is the real one) if they are a staff they will be sitting far in the back casting, possibly strafing. Greatsword build, its the one that threw the mirror blade.
clones use same weapon as the real mesmer’s weapon. if he uses greatsword, every clones use greatsword. and this is the right forum. i am talking about spvp balance.
i want to see a very small and simple and funny map like nuke town in cod or other fps game.
and a very funny looking map.
I do very little sPvP so I don’t know how much you have to do to get to rank 15 but I imaging it’s a fare share. So for the life of me I can’t figure out how you have PvP’d that much and still don’t know how to tell the Mesmer apart from the clones.
I do all my PvP in WvW where I sometimes face Multiple Mesmers and have no problem spotting the real Mesmer in the group.
Maybe it’s because I play one so I understand the mechanics. But as soon as they use anyone of their tricks I know exactly where to look them and have them targeted again and call target from my group mates. Try playing one for a little bit to get used to the mechanics maybe?
If you a part of a tourney party you should be used to learning how to spot the other classes mechanic and knowing how to counter them. It’s the same as learning to counter someones burst moves.
hey. everyone in my group was pretty strong and experienced and high rank. but still they complain about mesmer. they talk like mesmer is nightmare.
i think you never seen that they use stealth or they teleport back or they don’t move (or they keep running away and coming back)? i see many mesmers that dont move with many clones. they know how to use clones perfectly. it is overpowered skill in spvp. you can’t know which one is real. i played necromancer for almost 2 weeks without sleep. everyone complains about mesmer clones. they are too annoying. and when you fight against two mesmer, you can’t really know which one is real because they spawn many illusions and use stealth and teleport back and attack at once. you can see phantasms. but clones look same like real one. if real pro gamer uses this, you can’t even imagine how unfair things will happen.
it is not a trick because it looks exactly same like real one. you learn nothing from it because it is not a trick. they don’t use only clones. they move and run and use stealth or blink.
also i think blink is OP. you can run away perfectly. it is not a trick. it is overpowered skill. mesmer has many teleport skills. and you can spawn a clone and teleport to back. and he uses stealth or something. even if you know which one is real, you must fight against many illusions. it is not simple and easy like your opinion. it is impossible to know which one is real in fighting. he uses blink or stealth or something. and suddenly, i lose the real target(if you do ctrl+click on target, you can see the red thing. i mean the red thing is just gone.).
i think i found the reason why mesmer clones are OP.
red thing(ctrl+click) is gone when mesmer uses some skills or run away. and he comes back. i dont know which one is real.
clones dont hold off hand weapons
Lol, yeah good luck with that observation.
thank you. you saved my life. but what if the mesmer doesn’t use off hand? every mesmer things will look same? oh.. wait.. i see all the mesmer clones are using greatsword!!! it is a nightmare!!!!!
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hey. let’s compare moa morph (10 seconds is fu***** OP. this skill never miss target.) and time warp(two times faster for 10 seconds? is it some kind of super intelligent alien technology? obviously impossible to win it.) to other elite skills. moa morph and time warp are just op. you can kill anyone if you use this elite skill.
my necromancer has plague, lich form, flesh golem. flesh golem has charge skill(long cooldown). i can knock down a foe once. and i become a plague and i do condition damage. but i never seen a person who uses plague for 2 weeks in tournament. seems very useless. and i become a huge green lich form. but if i lose all health in lich form, i die unlike death shroud. and he has no very strong skills. and you may miss target. and if i am attacked several enemies, i am just a sandbag unless everyone becomes lich form. i saw that 3 necromancer becomes lich form at once. and they were very strong. my group couldn’t kill them. but it is for only 30 seconds and it seems they are slow. we can go to other point. almost useless. i see moa morph and time warp very often and they win the game.
there must be some skill that i can kill myself. i dont want to fight against mesmer elite skills.
once imagine what will happen if real pro gamers use moa morph or time warps in esports. everyone will play mesmer. and you will see 5 mesmers vs 5 mesmers. time warp spam vs moa morph spam. and all they use teleport. they teleport everywhere. and take all points.
and whenever i play tourney, i enter voice chat. and whenever people become moa, they shout and say swear words or say “i became moa. i need help”. but i never seen that people say “i need help” when enemy uses lich form or flesh golem. it is everyone’s reaction. it is not a lie. mesmer elite skills are op.
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Bring less single target into your tourny group- gs warriors/mark necro/flame engi/and mirror Mesmer are all minion counters
+1. mesmers are definitely annoying to kill, but a simple aoe will do enough damage to the clones that you (should) realize its a clone.
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do you think you can get mass AOE tourney group everydays whenever you login gw2? are you serious? and a simple aoe doesn’t kill all of them. and skills have recharge. if mesmer keeps spawning clones, i can’t use AOE skill again for a while. clone is just crazy OP.
oh yes you realize it is clone but it looks exactly same like real one. you have no time to check all the clones in fighting. everyone is crazy strong in tournament than random server. even they have real strategies. you dont have even time to think.
and if mesmer uses Moa morph, it means you die.
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i leave the game if the game is too unbalanced. and i join new game. and it is always 100 vs 100 or 0 vs 0. i had no any problem. or i go to play tournament.
i really hate debuff system. it is seriously not funny at all. it is for only noobs not everyone. everyone will hate this system. and even if they add this system in game, you will see same thing in spvp. there is always the team that is losing. and if you get debuff because you left game, and you join other game, and you do bad, everyone will leave and blame you and everyone will get debuff. and everyone in spvp will get debuff.
this is not good at all.
this game is just for fun and everyone. you can leave the game as your mind.
if you don’t like random spvp, you must play tournament. i never complained spvp until 15 rank (for about 2 weeks. almost without sleep.). and i never seen people complain in spvp about the people who leave the game during match. because if you join new game, problem is solved.
please don’t change anything. i like current spvp. we need more freedom. i am playing it everydays almost without sleep. if you want to get debuff system, please go play cheap poor graphics games that have debuff system.
and when i play call of duty mw3 or crysis 2 or bf3 multiplayer, there was no debuff system. because it ruins the game!!! and do you want to see a Administrator like BF3 server? there is the server owner in BF3. and he can kick and ban everyone. don’t make other people bad and weaker than you because they left the game! debuff system is too selfish system. you just want to make everyone bad and weak.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAp7VyGgqhc
this is what will happen if you add debuff system in game.
debuff system is for only noobs not everyone.
the team that has no debuff will always win. this will be more unfair.
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mesmer’s clones.
no one knows which one is real. and the mesmer runs away perfectly.
if you played spvp until 15 rank, you know what i mean.
everyone in my tourney party said it is too hard to kill mesmers.
it should be revealed after 5 seconds or be blinked every 5 second or become different color and back to normal every 5 second.
and many clones are too annoying. it is impossible to kill mesmer.
i can’t even attack mesmer if he keeps spawning clones!!!!
100 Blades + someone who causes knockdown or other interrupt skills.
it is impossible to win.
necromancer shortest fear duration. other classes can do 3~5 seconds fear. this is very unfair in spvp. and i think master of terror trait(50% increased fear duration) is useless because all necro fear skills have 1 second duration. it is +0.5 second. can you see 0.5 second as human? warrior and thief can do fear for 3~5 seconds. i think most necromancer skills and traits are not very useful and powerful like other classes. if it is not useful, it should be powerful. if it is not powerful, it should be useful.
this game has female and male. we must be able to have sex and make children. oh wait.. i never seen a game in my life that has marriage and having sex and make children is not lame. please go play sims or something..
after month, everyone said Swtor is lame as hell. too many conversation scenes and someone said his fingers are very painful to skip those scenes. and i see swtor again. swtor graphics look very old and poor now.
hey guys it is xfire statics.
http://i49.tinypic.com/auun9v.jpg
he is troll
do you know that everyone is too busy to play gw2??? Xfire and twitch is for serious nerds who plays old game everydays. and i dont believe only 80,000 people are playing gw2. when i was playing archeage 5th closed beta, 150,000 people were invited on this year. and do you think most people watch Xfire? no one watchs Xfire. old as hell.
and if you want to do it in fair way,
you should compare league of legends to guild wars 2.
show us the graph of league legends on xfire.
we will admit gw2 is shi*
let’s go playing league of legends!
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those native americans say they don’t understand those auto-attack options at all. (they all have real life jobs and work). i am not native americans. anyways..
please make it be more easier to understand.
autotargeting
stop autoattacking on target change.
promote skill target.
people complain the targeting system in gw2. those are so horrible.
those options are impossible to be understood by people.
you could make those descriptions more simple. i never seen something like this that is so hard to understand in my gaming life.
once if you reach 40 level, if you run CM dungeon, you can be 80 easily. don’t waste time on dungeon exp. they give you small experience and small rewards. everyone in my party said they wasted too many time on exp. even sometimes i wasted 2~4 hours on a exp dungeon.
those developers must read this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necromancy
they talk about summoning skills and they never talk about life steal and transform like death shroud. life steal and death shroud are ruining necromancer class.
and i hate jagged horror because it looks exactly same like bone minions with small size. it should be flying suicide minions or different looking minion.
necromancer in gw2 is a vampire with monster summoning skills. and i never feel those minions are necromancer’s pets. those are just monsters. there should be raising dead or zombie or skeleton. and jagged horror looks exactly same like bone minion with small size. it should be some flying suicide monster or something. i think those developers are just lazy as hell. i dont understand jagged horror looks same like bone minion. and bone minion looks like pokemons. and the name “bone minion” makes me think about skeletons not ugly looking small monster. it is not bone minion. it is flesh minion. so many people in the world like skeletons and zombies and bone dragons than those ugly and stupid and weak looking monsters that i have ever seen in my life. and i hate the dance in game. it should be something like michael jackson or b-boy dance. this is why many people on internet say gw2 is stupid and lame.
necromancer in gw2 reminds me of zerg in starcraft.
you can see skeletons in most movies and animations and animes that are related with death in the world. it is a monster summoner with life steal not necromancer. or they should make a good type vampire class instead of necromancer. if you say current necromancer is good because you can try various things, look at the mesmer! mesmer has so many summoning skills. it is a good example of a class. he has no various type of skills like necromancer. even he has summoning skills in weapon skills. one good type is always better and strong and balanced than various and hybrid types.
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you can leave tournament like leaving the game but you will be still signed to that tounament until it ends so you can’t join one, leave and join another one to ruin it too
i pressed H and clicked go to hearts of mist. but i can’t go there. i just respawn in starting zone. i can’t leave the game.
Good job.
Dagger in main hand is actually very nice damage, but what I don’t like is that it requires you to get too up and personal with the enemy.
Regardless, cheers to you.
so i use immobilize and 6 seconds chill skill(1200 range). most people die when well of suffering(5s) is over. people really don’t think i can do many damage. and some people just come to me. sometimes they dont even use skills because they think i am going to use some condition skills but i don’t use any skills. i summon minions and use a melee skill. they can’t run away from my melee. even i use flesh golem charge. and axe has huge AoE cripple skill. warhorn has swiftness.
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time is not matter really. i saw the server stats for 24 hours today. i didn’t sleep. it was same for 24 hours. just take a screenshot and post it. it is best way. i dont care night or day. i know most asians(japanese, chinese, koreans) and everyone in the world play north america server.
i don’t understand why it is still happening. don’t they ban those illegal spammers? and i see so many sale gold spammers in chat sometimes. i get those ad mails almost everydays. “diablo 3 10000k”
it is nurffed or overpowered. i never use it. i never use a skill that has no damage or interrupt.
hey. i really don’t like heal and life steal. delete all of them. and add zombies and skeleton and bone dragon or Devil for elite skill.
it is playable even if necromancer 90 bugs. LOL.
i think necromancer bone minions have highest AoE damage. it blows up everything in 0.5 second(cooldown).
i saw a guy whose name was justinbieberr. and his face and appearance looked like justin bieber.
you should join pvp guild not pve guild. that is totally pve guild. i see so many people and many pvp guild. they are growing. and so many pro gamers in tournament. they are too strong really. it is more harder than running a dungeon. if you play the spvp and tournament, your skills will be way much better than the past. now i became too strong. i think if i level up and run any dungeon, i will melt all the enemies at once. and i heard many stories thay my guild members experieneced. they saw very very way too strong people in game. those too strong people killed all the monsters and bosses in few seconds. i think you should join other many guilds. your world is very small. you should try world vs world, spvp, dungeon guilds. and i am playing spvp everydays to find strongest build.
yeah. i played wow and i quitted at 10 level. when i watch wow gameplay i feel like i vomit. those old graphics and super hardcore farming and all the movements and actions in WoW look all the same. i agree customer service sucks soo bad. they just copy and paste. i never seen it when i play archeage. i sent about 100 questions during 5th closed beta. they never did copy and paste same answer. and they told me their opinions about my question and idea. but…. i just don’t understand why you play WoW instead of bunch of high graphics latest games like crysis 3, far cry 3, dead space 3, black ops 2, assassin creed, skyrim. WoW is some kind of nightmare. i never played MMO until this year. because i hate old graphics super hardcore farming nightmare. but archeage and gw2 are pretty good with high graphics and new systems. water graphics in archeage were realistic as kitten than gw2 and any other games. but gw2 is better. archeage was still incomplete.
take a screenshot. and upload it here.
but don’t post the server stats other people posted.
i want to see which server is most balanced in WvW.
all the datas on internet are useless. and i think WvW stats are related with the population. anyways post it now.
necromancer minions are strongest pets. i never seen a pet that is stronger than my minions in spvp. especially bone minions explosion. he blows up all the illusions and pets. flesh wurm and flesh golem are strongest pets.
Yes, a Backstab focused build can hit that hard, but relies on a spec dedicated to just that one trick pony.
When going glass cannon vs. glass cannon, most classes are going to come up short vs. a Thief. Stealth simply gives them an upper hand that is hard to compensate in a 8 second fight.
necromancer has death shroud. i think necromancer highest health in glass cannon classes.
necromancer is a summoner than caster. if you look at the necromancer wiki on google, most of the descriptions say he is a summoner. he should have as many summoning skills as mesmer like zombies, skeletons.
i don’t like heal class. and necromancer life steal must be more viable………….
i can’t leave tournament. but i saw other people left tournament during fighting after the game started. and different person joined the game.
Burst dmg? That would be power wells build. The thing is, enemy needs only to roll to avoid your most serious bursts. Of course you can pick a dagger and spam the first attack for the criticals, but to do that you would be in the very heat of battle, which is what you don’t want since you lack the skills to get out properly if taking damage.
Anyway, I use wells in WvW since it is the only thing that enables me to get any marks whatsoever. Also, very usefull on downed targets, it helps to kill them fast to that they won’t get up from your jagged horrors.
i never seen a person who can do as many normal damage as me. i think no one tried this build. this is the only normal burst damage build that necromancer can do. and i am talking about spvp. there are so many people in WvW. WvW is easier than PvP. you just spam skills behind many people.